Swearing allowed in English School

[stdave1]

I saw on the news a couple of days ago that a school outside London is allowing swearing inside the classroom. The catch is that the kids are only allowed to swear five times in a one hour classroom. Guess the "Queen's English" is going out of fashion in England.

 

[nessonite1]

So the teachers are teaching so efficiently that they have time to keep track of how many times...ugh...nevermind. This is too dumb to even arguie with! >.<

 

[Yet_One_More_Idiot]

I don't know why they're bothered. Our school allowed swearing....as long as the teacher didn't hear it. 😛 Even if they did, they most often ignored it if was just colourful language (like any other adverb or adjective), as opposed to actually being rude.

 

[Cbarton]

So the teachers are teaching so efficiently that they have time to keep track of how many times...ugh...nevermind. This is too dumb to even arguie with! >.<

Sheesh, what next? Shall they let the students walk around nude all day, limited to only 1 sex act or 3 gropes/class period?

Hey, here's a novel idea...how about TEACHNG THEM TO COMMUNICATE PROPERLY!!!!!!!!

Oh sorry, proper English and grammar are SO outmoded and non-progressive....forgive me....

 

[Yet_One_More_Idiot]

My teachers refused to correct bad spelling and grammar, supposedly because they did not wish to "stifle the children's creativity"... :weird:

 

[nessonite1]

My teachers refused to correct bad spelling and grammar, supposedly because they did not wish to "stifle the children's creativity"...

*Resists urge to explode at how rediculous that whole school of thought is*

 

[Cbarton]

My teachers refused to correct bad spelling and grammar, supposedly because they did not wish to "stifle the children's creativity"... :weird:

More likely because due to the whole "objective-based' education crap these days, the teacheres don't even know if it's wrong or not....

 

[Goodieluver]

Bollocks

 

[MistressValerie1]

When I was a substitute teacher in Oakland some years ago, we were not allowed to correct bad grammar or spelling because the school board insisted that such incorrect usages were deliberate expressions of students' creativity and heritage.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

F*ck that! How's that for swearing? This is downright stupid! Its beyond stupid. Theres no word right enough for it, nor allowing children to destroy the english language because we don't want to hurt their feelings, stifle their creativity, or bemserch their "heritage". Heritage? WTF?! Seriously!

I'm actually not mad, I'm really happy, because this is just downright funny! LOL! 😀

 

[nessonite1]

For further reading I highly recommend this book

Dumbing Down Our Kids : Why American Children Feel Good About Themselves But Can't Read, Write, or Add
by Charles J. Sykes

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...102-6448337-5517713?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

LOL! Ah...this is the first really good laugh I've had all day. Bless your hearts people! 😀

 

[-Kunoke-]

You know...when I was in school, we cursed all the time and no teachers cared.

Some kids downright told their teachers to "Shut the fuck up!" and didn't get so much as a second glance.

But maybe my high school was just corrupt. 😀

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Not corrupt so much as didn't have any standards. 😛

 

[-Kunoke-]

Not corrupt so much as didn't have any standards. 😛

*shrug* I suppose that would be a better way to put it. 😛

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I should hope so, anyway. 😛

 

[-Kunoke-]

I should hope so, anyway. 😛

Well I dunno. It might have been a little of both. 🙄

School was the pits, at any rate.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Thats what I was concerned about. ^^;

You made it through fine though, right?

 

[Hiryu]

F*ck that! How's that for swearing? This is downright stupid! Its beyond stupid. Theres no word right enough for it, nor allowing children to destroy the english language because we don't want to hurt their feelings, stifle their creativity, or bemserch their "heritage". Heritage? WTF?! Seriously!

Tsk tsk. You watch your language, young man!

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Tsk tsk. You watch your language, young man!

LOL, yeah. Its almost ironic, because I don't curse on a regular basis (and when I do its just as a joke, it doesn't mean anything unless I'm angry), just sometimes and I never really did it in school either. Its clear alot of people did it/do it to stand out "look at me, I'm cursing and I don't care!". Its just as much about attention then it is a bad habit for schoolers. Cursing gets attention, and people knew/know it. Its the next best attention grabber to being the class clown or the "rebel".

All three are just attempts at winning acclaim from your peers and classmates, and each is unnecessary. Its just as much the student's fault for fostering an anti-learning environment than it is anything the teacher does (or does not do), especially when the students are underminding or downright provoking the teacher, especially to the point where they can't teach effectively. You can't learn properly at all times when other students are distracting you with their nonsense, and swearing in school being allowed is a step in the wrong direction, I think, no matter what country it is. It completely debases and devalues the aspect of an ideal learning environment.

Class and learning can be fun and entertaining without cursing, and other unnecessary distractions. Theres no value to street talk being allowed in the classroom or campus. Its not something to cherish, preserve, protect, or condone in any way (even in everyday life).

The education system does not exist to be used as a spectical or forum from which these fools can play their antics. If they want to be morons, let them do it on their own time. Other people are trying to learn, and other people are trying to teach. They have no right to meddle in that, and action should be taken against them everytime. We're at the point where its so bad that simply warning them isn't enough. More agressive action is needed, and if that means these fools get no education, then its not ironic or a coincidence why they're failures and dropouts in life.

The day you decide to be a clown and a fool over being a learner and student is the day you screwed yourself, so live with it, and the difficulties of getting back on the right track.

 

[Hungarian21]

You kind of learn how to swear REALLY well in school! 😛 Its one of the many things that you will learn for sure in there; when I moved here, I didnt know half the swearing words that I know today. How did I learn it?? SCHOOL! 😀

 

[Yet_One_More_Idiot]

I learnt most of my most oft-used swearwords in the Scouts. 😀

For further reading I highly recommend this book

Dumbing Down Our Kids : Why American Children Feel Good About Themselves But Can't Read, Write, or Add
by Charles J. Sykes

Well, at least none of the kids will ever read the book and feel insulted by it. 😛

 

[nessonite1]

Indeed, Koopa...it's like telling Amish jokes on tv. ^_^

 

[BigNorm]

all this reminds me of the exchange between Mr. Garrison and Cartman in the Southpark movie. anyone remember that?

 

[Hiryu]

LOL, yeah. Its almost ironic, because I don't curse on a regular basis (and when I do its just as a joke, it doesn't mean anything unless I'm angry), just sometimes and I never really did it in school either. Its clear alot of people did it/do it to stand out "look at me, I'm cursing and I don't care!". Its just as much about attention then it is a bad habit for schoolers. Cursing gets attention, and people knew/know it. Its the next best attention grabber to being the class clown or the "rebel".

All three are just attempts at winning acclaim from your peers and classmates, and each is unnecessary. Its just as much the student's fault for fostering an anti-learning environment than it is anything the teacher does (or does not do), especially when the students are underminding or downright provoking the teacher, especially to the point where they can't teach effectively. You can't learn properly at all times when other students are distracting you with their nonsense, and swearing in school being allowed is a step in the wrong direction, I think, no matter what country it is. It completely debases and devalues the aspect of an ideal learning environment.

Class and learning can be fun and entertaining without cursing, and other unnecessary distractions. Theres no value to street talk being allowed in the classroom or campus. Its not something to cherish, preserve, protect, or condone in any way (even in everyday life).

The education system does not exist to be used as a spectical or forum from which these fools can play their antics. If they want to be morons, let them do it on their own time. Other people are trying to learn, and other people are trying to teach. They have no right to meddle in that, and action should be taken against them everytime. We're at the point where its so bad that simply warning them isn't enough. More agressive action is needed, and if that means these fools get no education, then its not ironic or a coincidence why they're failures and dropouts in life.

The day you decide to be a clown and a fool over being a learner and student is the day you screwed yourself, so live with it, and the difficulties of getting back on the right track.

I think the worst part of it is all of these scatter-brained "gurus" that are popping up in the media, making excuses for trouble making and violent kids. It's just like a few years ago when they were trying to say that violent criminals and psychos were just sick people who needed help instead of imprisonment. I honestly can't believe how utterly stuped these types of liberals (most of which are rich and uneducated) are when it comes to such important matters. Anytime someone does something unexceptable, they make excuses for them or pretend it isn't so. I wonder how long it will be before child molestors, rapists and murderers will be free to do as they please because some dumb group of rich morons theorized that it is actually healthy and beneficial to the human race?