The Rocking has shut down his site

[Floyd1]

I think it is time for me to leave these forums and never post again. The Rocking has indicated he will never update again. You got what you wanted. Greed is dead or dying. Everything will be for members only very soon. Get your Master Card and Visa ready.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Ok, this is the second one this week. What is with you? Why leave such a wonderful community just because you can't share someone else's work?

This site isn't just made up of videos you know. There are picture and art to consider, as well as stories. There are still several ways for you to contribute if you so wish to. Why leave atall? Its not worth it over one site that gets shut down or voluntarily closes for personal reasons. Its just one drop from the bucket (not to downplay The Rocking). Its hardly worth leaving over.

 

[alf1]

Ok, this is the second one this week. What is with you? Why leave such a wonderful community just because you can't share someone else's work?

This site isn't just made up of videos you know. There are picture and art to consider, as well as stories. There are still several ways for you to contribute if you so wish to. Why leave atall? Its not worth it over one site that gets shut down or voluntarily closes for personal reasons.

Absolutely agree. Many art is done and nice indeed - and u can meet people also -and have fun !! Coming here just for taking vids is.......erhm not the good way of appreciating a forum like this 🙂

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Exactly. This forum is also calling for one to use one's own talents, innate or not. Thats just as good if not better than contributing copyrighted materials. There are more ways to contribute then are apparent. Simply posting and posting well is a virtue in and of itself.

Also, consider that there is more water being poured into the bucket then there is water leaving. We're ahead of ourselves and have a wealth of material available. We won't be in some 'financial depression' because some sites close or refuse to share their copyrighted materials, says I.

 

[Floyd1]

Exactly. This forum is also calling for one to use one's own talents, innate or not. Thats just as good if not better than contributing copyrighted materials. There are more ways to contribute then are apparent. Simply posting and posting well is a virtue in and of itself.

Also, consider that there is more water being poured into the bucket then there is water leaving. We're ahead of ourselves and have a wealth of material available. We won't be in some 'financial depression' because some sites close or refuse to share their copyrighted materials, says I.

Yes but if this is a trend it will also affect pictures and drawings in the future. For now video is what others are upset about but eventually everything we view for free that someone else produced will be considered theft. I hope this is not the future of the Internet.

 

[tummynavelboy]

He must had got all his Magic cards that he wanted then i see😛

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

@ Floyd- Yes, that is true. Although all of the material in question has been created by a company. If individuals continue to post individuals works spanning all the medias then we won't have a problem.

@ BellyButtonsRoc- Maybe so. 😛

 

[LicksNTickles1]

Hey BellyButton (and everyone else),

he actually posted a link to this HUGE (and sometimes brutal) discussion about his reasons why over at TMF. I had been following the posts for a while and left it alone a week ago, to return and see that they had pissed off Rocking. It's a LOOONG thread. It got a little ugly in some spots, and I wouldn't be surprised if many "free" sites closed soon after him. Yes my friends, the internet is both friend and foe.

I'll miss The Rocking...

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I don't suppose you'd be willing to recap the key posts made and what actually happened in that discussion, would you?

The way you discribe it, I wouldn't want to read such a negative and long thread if you can give us the skinny instead.

 

[Kalamos]

I've read a thread on TMF about offering vids.
I suppose it's the same Floyd is referring to.

If it is, it turned a bit nasty on some post. Some users claimed Rocking's site was the only that offered free vids.

Vid producers replied saying that Rocking actually posted copyrighted stuff - so he had no right to do so.

So thread turned about how to stop ppl from ripping vids.
Laughing Gas Producer said they should dissuade ppl, while Evan from Sherry Prod was more radical. He claimed ppl ripping vids should be jailed.


Reg's.

 

[Faramir]

Well...there's always KaZaA...!!

I'd rather see the original, amatuer, husband/wife t, bf/-g/f t, g/f ft-t, etc. blah-blah, so on and so forth,...pic's, vid's, art, etc. anyway...!!

although the peep's/model's on the commercially produced material are very attractive/cute/sexy/ticklish(?)...and the prices for same are not all that extravagant...one has to wonder how much of it is acting for pay as opposed to how much of it is real. (but on the other hand,...for most, how can you FAKE a reaction to tickling...??...LOL..!!) Unless you were there, you really don't know for sure...do you...??

All in the fantasy...??

*just my $.02*

 

[alf1]

Evan from Sherry Prod was more radical. He claimed ppl ripping vids should be jailed.

Wow !! jailed :wooha: incredible.

 

[Dade]

The Rocking is not leaving. He has reconsidered and will be posting clips that are samples or with permission of the producers.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

As it should be.

 

[BigJim1]

I personally can't see what a lot of people are angry about. Most video producers I've seen comment on this have said that webmaters like The_Rocking are perfectly welcome to host public domain clips on his web-site. The only times I've seen someone request a clip be taken down is when the clip is one of the 5 minute ones that you have to pay for downloading. There are still hundreds if not thousands of clips that free hosters can make available and I really can't see why the bile about producers protecting their material has let rip the way it has.

But then I'm English, so I'm bound to be stupid. 😀

 

[Kalamos]

-> BigJim

LOL! 😀

As it seems Rocking hosted paid clips. Someone - I suppose TIB, Realtickling's boss, asked him to take those down, and somehow the whole matter went public.

Ppl argued - and threads got sore fast. A bunch of ppl posted they would never buy those clips anyway. Evan from Silvercherry got upset, asking for stark measures.

I - quite naively - asked why producers couldn't post demo clips on free groups, but nobody answered yet.

I don't know who or how made this affair public. Maybe it would have been more logic if Rocking had removed the clips without letting ppl stir up a flame.

Yet, I'm italian, so I lack honesty and I'm rich in stupidity too... 😀 😀 😀


Reg's.

 

[BigJim1]

The affair with Rocking and TIB didn't go public exactly, because the whole thing took place in public. Rocking made some thread on the TMF about if people wanted to trade with him he had ab list of about 5 clips to exchange. One of these was a 5 minute TC clip. TIB asked him very politely if he'd take the clip down as it was a "bread & butter" one, not a public domain sample. Rocking apologised and said he'd done it, TIB replied with thanks and said he was a gentleman. That's all that happened! The bitching and crying started when other people got in on it. To my knowledge TIB and Rocking havn't exchanged any words, apart from those.

 

[SilverCherry1]

I've read a thread on TMF about offering vids.
I suppose it's the same Floyd is referring to.

If it is, it turned a bit nasty on some post. Some users claimed Rocking's site was the only that offered free vids.

Vid producers replied saying that Rocking actually posted copyrighted stuff - so he had no right to do so.

So thread turned about how to stop ppl from ripping vids.
Laughing Gas Producer said they should dissuade ppl, while Evan from Sherry Prod was more radical. He claimed ppl ripping vids should be jailed.


Reg's.

Although I don't like people who steal vids, I never clamimed anything about going to jail. Please don't put words in my mouth. And who is Sherry Prod?

 

[Kalamos]

Are we digging up dead and buried threads? 😉

Ok... Let me correct myself: "Silver Cherry Productions". I mistyped that.

But let me ask: why did you feel like replying - over 40 days after my post?

Anyway since you are drawing me into it once again, let's talk about it.
On TMF, you said you consider copyright infringement akin to theft.

I'm not argumentative here - but if that's the gist of your thought, please bear with me for simplicity's sake.

As I posted a couple of times on TMF, I feel copyright infringement [and illegal copies of videos and software] should be considered a con, or a swindle. Not a proper theft.

You [or any prods] are swindled of your revenues when an illegal copy is shared, but no actual theft is perpetrated, since there's no physical object being "shop-lifted".

I also stated I feel the way copyright works should be re-thought - for the costumers and the producers' sake.

Nobody ever cared to reply to that statement, so your post, out of the blue, really baffled me.


I'm not putting words in anybody's mouth - I had no reason to speak any ill of you or Silver Cherry Productions.

But, just as I am taking responsibility for what I am typing now, I feel you might do the same.

Flames don't start by themselves: if you let the cinders alone, they eventually die.


Best wishes.

A frank manly handshake.
K.

 

[SilverCherry1]

Are we digging up dead and buried threads? 😉

Ok... Let me correct myself: "Silver Cherry Productions". I mistyped that.

But let me ask: why did you feel like replying - over 40 days after my post?

Anyway since you are drawing me into it once again, let's talk about it.
On TMF, you said you consider copyright infringement akin to theft.

I'm not argumentative here - but if that's the gist of your thought, please bear with me for simplicity's sake.

As I posted a couple of times on TMF, I feel copyright infringement [and illegal copies of videos and software] should be considered a con, or a swindle. Not a proper theft.

You [or any prods] are swindled of your revenues when an illegal copy is shared, but no actual theft is perpetrated, since there's no physical object being "shop-lifted".

I also stated I feel the way copyright works should be re-thought - for the costumers and the producers' sake.

Nobody ever cared to reply to that statement, so your post, out of the blue, really baffled me.


I'm not putting words in anybody's mouth - I had no reason to speak any ill of you or Silver Cherry Productions.

But, just as I am taking responsibility for what I am typing now, I feel you might do the same.

Flames don't start by themselves: if you let the cinders alone, they eventually die.


Best wishes.

A frank manly handshake.
K.

I'm new to this particular forum and today was the first time I've read the post, hence my not replying sooner. However, whether it be yesterday or 40 days ago, what was said was said. I'm not the least bit interested in debating copyright issues. The reason I responded to your post was because you said I was more "radical" and that I said "people should be jailed for ripping vids" which is a complete fabrication. I never once said that, or anything remotely similar to that. I just wanted to clear that up. I'm not starting a flame or fanning the cinders or anything. In defense of myself, I'm just merely pointing out a totally false statement.

Your handshake is greeted with an equally firm shake.

Salute

 

[miserable_D1]

Quit Whining

 

[Kalamos]

-> Silver Cherry

Being a message posted 40 days ago means most people probably don't remember or care about that thread anymore.

You do. So let's plunge headfirst into the argument once again.

I remember reading a post of yours, where you stated that sharing copyrighted videos is like breaking into somebody's house and steal his stuff.

EDIT:

Bar last statement. My memory was wrong there.
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39731&perpage=15&pagenumber=3


I reported your post in the substance, not verbatim, but it wasn't very different from what you said.

Now you say my memory is failing me. And you accuse me of making "fabrications".

Either I am completely nuts - and I post total nonsense - or you stated something I perceived as "radical", from my point of view.

You want me to go and dig something over a month old from tmf? Let me be blunt: pointless.

I did nothing to soil your name. Either you changed your mind, or my memory is not good as it used to be.

At any rate, if you endorse the statement "sharing copyrighted videos is theft", then my post is basically sound, and you can't reasonably complain about it.

I appreciate people who defend their public image. To a point, though.


Regards.

 

[SilverCherry1]

Quit Whining

Thank you for your eloquent yet thought provoking interposition regarding this matter.

 

[SilverCherry1]

-> Silver Cherry

Being a message posted 40 days ago means most people probably don't remember or care about that thread anymore.

You do. So let's plunge headfirst into the argument once again.

I remember reading a post of yours, where you stated that sharing copyrighted videos is like breaking into somebody's house and steal his stuff.

I reported your post in the substance, not verbatim, but it wasn't very different from what you said.

Now you say my memory is failing me. And you accuse me of making "fabrications".

Either I am completely nuts - and I post total nonsense - or you stated something I perceived as "radical", from my point of view.

You want me to go and dig something over a month old from tmf? Let me be blunt: pointless.

I did nothing to soil your name. Either you changed your mind, or my memory is not good as it used to be.

At any rate, if you endorse the statement "sharing copyrighted videos is theft", then my post is basically sound, and you can't reasonably complain about it.

I appreciate people who defend their public image. To a point, though. Regards.

Again, I really don't care about what the argument was about. You're saying I'm going too far by making my point when all I'm saying is that what you said earlier in this thread (not in substance but verbatim) " Evan from Sherry Prod was more radical. He claimed ppl ripping vids should be jailed" is completely made up (*fabricated), thats all. Don't you consider that to be a rather precise "claim" when you were only supposedly reporting on substance? Also, since you keep going back to it, let me say this; I share the notion that making copies of copyrighted material is piracy. There, thats where I stand. Now look, I respect you. I don't think you're nuts and I'd like to bury the hatchet with this one if it's all good with you.

*http://www.hyperdictionary.com/search.aspx?define=fabricate

'nother handshake 🙂

L'Chiam

 

[Kalamos]

You're saying I'm going too far by making my point when all I'm saying is that what you said (and this is verbatum) " Evan from Sherry Prod was more radical. He claimed ppl ripping vids should be jailed" is completely made up, thats all. Don't you consider that to be a rather precise "claim" when you were only supposedly reporting on substance? Also, since you keep going back to it, let me say this; I share the notion that making copies of copyrighted material is piracy. There, thats where I stand. Now look, I respect you. I don't think you're nuts and I'd like to bury the hatchet with this one if it's all good with you.
'nother handshake 🙂
L'Chiam

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/search.aspx?define=verbatim

Fine with me.
I'm also editing a previous quote of mine that proved wrong [It was Tickle Television not you speaking of "housebreaking"].

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39731&perpage=15&pagenumber=3

Buried. 🙂


*Shake*


Reg's.