Ah, excuse me, you're talking without knowing anything about what went on that day (yes, kinda like Skelyrata, but I didn't claim to ignore a safeword).
You started out condemning a guy for something questionable. But in my specific example (not your overall work) you’ve done the same thing. Of course you didn't ignore safewords - you took people unfamiliar with the BDSM culture and failed to educate them about the culture while injecting them into it, pretending that you didn‘t. More on that later.
Now I know I wasn't there ( were you on Skel‘s shoot that day, BTW? ) …. and when you wrote in another thread that you felt bad but kept the scene going anyway with mom in control (someone not familiar with BDSM practices, seemingly now in charge of your shoot and fetish scene, against your gut feeling)….. and a lot of what you wrote about that day in a past thread may have been hype and marketing.... but if I am to believe that (everything was
really fine) and give you the benefit of the doubt, then why couldn't I do the same thing with Skelyrata? Why couldn’t others?
So now I don't know which story of yours to believe- this one here, or the one in the past thread. So now you’ve done a Skelyrata, see?
I
do still think you are a safe player and video producer. But many of us also believe that about Skel. This is what I and others have been saying.
Besides, I don't see what the BDSM culture has to do with anything. We're talking about safewords used in tickling videos.
That may be part of the problem in terms. You see a difference between the two issues? That’s actually really worrisome.
In that case,
if there is a clear separation between the two, then what Skel supposedly did to get all this flak upon him is immaterial - tickling to any extent is
just fine.
But that’s not how it really is. There isn't a separation. What you, Skel, other producers do may be of a different flavor, but it
IS BDSM. I’m really not trying to single you out - you do great videos and I trust the well-being of the models. But I don’t understand the fingerpointing at Skelyrata, especilly from another producer that walks that thin line. I really don’t get it. “He ignored a safe word!” Couldn’t that have been part of the storyline the negotiated, off-camera, away from the eyes of the viewers? Something his detractors seemingly didn’t begin to consider. And why were those of us who brought that up seen as being as bad as him?
TIB did the same thing in a video once - people came down on him for it, too, but again, he was generally a safe player and no one got hurt. That was years ago. People still haven’t seemed to learn that drama and conflict may make a good video, but what you see may be only 50% reality.
Truly bad guys in the fetish video biz will eventually be found out. I mean, in legal terms. We do need to police what happens in this “community” & an occasional calling-out may need to be done when it is warranted, but I it needs do be a little more reasonable than 'that-looked-scary-I-don’t-trust-you.' Even if that is a good warning sign to go by, a little more investigation might need to be done. If there is real trouble there bring the proof rather than the slander and libel.
So you're saying that just because I happen to be a producer myself I can't contribute to the discussion?
No, you just have to be reasonable and accurate to be taken seriously (like all the other people who jumped the condemnation gun). "So you're saying...." Nothing like old feigned-misunderstanding tactic in order to be a victim. Who said you couldn't add anything? Who? Who?
Don’t whine, debate.
I'm afraid you just don't understand, or care to understand, so conversation is over.
No dictator, it isn‘t. That‘s not how conversations or debates go. Don‘t be scared, we‘re just examining things.
I've been on shoots, too. And played in scenes tk and non-tk. Skel is as guilty, or not guilty, as you - or many other producers are. Which is my total point in the first place - why pile up on a guy when he's producing 'questionable' stuff (people tied down and assaulted, even though it is with their consent) when so many other people are, too? Is it because he ignored a safe word?
And if that
is the cause of the piling-on,
then the question becomes - why believe the hype? Why assume *that* really happened the way it looked. Pictures don't lie, is that the theory? HA!
Don’t turn on one another so quickly when so many of us have warts & scars showing.
Especially when some of those are fake rubber latex make-up effects.
