This NOT a video post...but it may interest you.

[kis123]

Oh just thought it would be humourous to mention..I emailed this guy about the free DVD or CDR he was talkin bout..heard nothing back😛

The things some will do to stir up some shit..ehh shut up a u face 😀

I pm'd him about a video clip too, and I got no response. I do hope to hear from him. At least now I know I'm not crazy.

 

[tickler_n_black]

AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL I'M GIVING MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER AWAY IN SOME "FETISH" SITE OF ANY KIND, AND NO WAY THAT I'M DISHING OUT MONEY TO SEE A PERSON GET TICKLED!

and you want video companies to make free clips after you've just stated you'll never buy a single thing? 😕

 

[jmsdarke]

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AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL I'M GIVING MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER AWAY IN SOME "FETISH" SITE OF ANY KIND, AND NO WAY THAT I'M DISHING OUT MONEY TO SEE A PERSON GET TICKLED!
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and you want video companies to make free clips after you've just stated you'll never buy a single thing?


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the Tickler In Black

TIB,

Don't even waste your breath on this one. Someone who wants something for nothing isn't your market and doesn't deal in reality.

The majority of those who make loud trouble here are fortunately in the minority.

James Darke

 

[gekoman]

I pm'd him about a video clip too, and I got no response. I do hope to hear from him. At least now I know I'm not crazy.

TIB I notice that you skipped quite a bit of posts just to single out this guy, why don't you respond to those who actually buy clips off you. I bought around 5/6 clips, I bet someone can brag and say they bought them all. I guess you can call me a customer of yours so as a customer I'm asking you in this post to tell us that you cannot afford to make free clips like you used to.

 

[tickler_n_black]

I guess you can call me a customer of yours so as a customer I'm asking you in this post to tell us that you cannot afford to make free clips like you used to.

hi. first, thanks for being a customer. 🙂

second, make free clips of what videos? we don't offer any video footage over 6 minutes long?

third, anyone can afford to "make" free clips. but i seriously can't afford to "host them on a server."

4th, no, we don't have the time to make over 300 free clips.

i hope this helps. 🙂

 

[tickler_n_black]

Originally posted by jmsdarke


TIB,

Don't even waste your breath on this one. Someone who wants something for nothing isn't your market and doesn't deal in reality.

The majority of those who make loud trouble here are fortunately in the minority.

James Darke

hey james hi. thanks for reminding me of that. sometimes we forget. take care. whatya been up to?

 

[Kalamos]

third, anyone can afford to "make" free clips. but i seriously can't afford to "host them on a server."
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Would it be reasonable or feasible to host demo clips on groups, free adult sites, or something like that?

Posting one clip per week/month, and rotating them you could keep costs down. Adding banners and paypal worked on amateur sites - would it be out of question to resort to them? 🙂

I know this is a delicate matter: you are on business to make a profit, not just to give out free stuff. Yet, maybe we could find a reciprocally satisfactory solution.


My [really naive] 2 eurocents. 🙂

Reg's.

 

[nontkl]

Gekoman wrote: (Not everyone that has a point is whiny, I don't see producers points though, what I see is certain people making excuses for them. If a producer says that it would be too costly for them to make preview clips, than I can except that. I won't except it from anyone else. Let producers speak for themselves.)


1.) I think you meant to say ACCEPT not except.

2.) When the hell did I say everyone who has a point is whiny? I didn't say that. Points are made here every day, usually in the discussion section. I say that people who complain about this very issue are whiny. I see you joined just this past December.....I've been here since pretty close to the beginning amd I'm here to tell you sir that every time a new batch of people come in that's when the whining starts. NOT ALL, of course! A portion! Also, over time I have found the video producers to be generous, reasonable and friendly as well as being people who contribute to this board on a regular basis-it makes me wince when people who hardly contribute anything (which is usually the case with these incessant complainers) start DEMANDING things from people who have basically been very cool here, very cool PERSONALLY to me. You talk about free stuff? More than one company has comped me free tapes in appreciation for my business. That would be unheard of if I was into any other kind of fetish.(i hate that word but i had to use it!) Frankly, I don't care if you "except" it or not....I don't even think I was talking to you specifically, was I?

3.) T.I.B. is not a producer? You didn't see his point here? You know why the other producers aren't chiming in? Because they've answered this issue COUNTLESS times in the past....go look for yourself in the archives, usually in the discussion section. T.I.B. himself (and Kathy, too) are constantly fielding these comments...that's probably why he "skims" and answers something that catches his eye...what is he supposed to do, read everything, especially when it's been said over and over again? And what is this "hey T.I.B, you didn't answer every single thing that was posted here, what's that all about, are you hiding something?"? Ok, you found them all out, they're all in collusion.....you've really got them on the run now! They're running scared...THAT'S why they're not answering....they're thinking "shit, I better start posting free clips AND quick or they all may POST something about me!" I mean, what IS that?! This is simply the way it is. For all we know in a year there won't even be free clips, who knows? If you don't want to buy their videos (or services) because you can't preview their material, then don't buy them. THAT is how you protest. Maybe send them an email telling them so. Maybe they'll go out of business and you can say "I really showed them". Whining like a baby about it, especially when I'll bet it tends to be people who probably wouldn't buy the material anyway and just use the free clips to get their rocks off (which is what I believe the video producers found to be the case a few years ago, hence the ending of massive free clips), will change nothing. Free clips have gotten more scarce, not more plentiful, since people have been griping about it. And when a free clip is put up, there's normally very little in the way of gratitude expressed (not always, but usually) anyway.

4.) No hard feelings, after all, I may be seen agreeing with you on some other part of the forum.

 

[Sadistictickler]

and you want video companies to make free clips after you've just stated you'll never buy a single thing? 😕

I agree with him on the creditcard part; I'm just NOT going to get a credit card to buy TK stuff with (damn, I don't even have the friggin money for one) and distribute my CCnumber on the internet; seeing the fact that it's incredibly easy to crack 99% of the CCsites, and I don't want to be wasting my money on some fraud-asshole

Mailing money-orders would be fine with me though, or internet prepaid-cards (we've got a thing called wallie internet wallet here in holland, 20 euro's for a card)

 

[tickler_n_black]

Mailing money-orders would be fine with me though,

🙂
i can somewhat understand about the fear of credit card use. i say somewhat because well, thats what credit cards are for. they were created to be able to make a purchase without writing a check or handing over cash. they were created for a person to give the numerical sequence on the card and purchase something. thats how credit cards work.
so sometimes the statement "I'll never use my credit card to by anything on the internet" confuses me. i also think that some people over inflate the possibility of your credit card info being stolen on the internet and successfully used to make purchases by the theif. i've been using my credit card on the internet for 6 years and have never had one problem of any kind. not one. i give it out to all sorts of websites and online businesses. 🙂

but... alas... everyone makes their own choice and we're PERFECTLY FINE with someone not using a credit card.

that's why we've accepted money order for years now, and people are paying by money order regularly with us. so mr sadistictickler you don't have any excuses not to buy our clips, unless you flat out don't like any of our clips. ya never know. other than that, we provide a few different ways to purchase.

send in cash
send in money order
PayPal
CCBill

take care!

 

[Sadistictickler]

mmkay, I'll have a look at mail orderering stuff and I'll also have a look at savin some money, I'm just totally flat broke

 

[Sadistictickler]

btw: don't expect my e-mail to come in before may or something like that, I've got alot of things to buy before that date (god, WHY did concert tickets have to be so fucking expensive)

and uhm, small question: do you accept euro's (which are at the moment worth about $1.29) or greens only?

 

[gekoman]

hi. first, thanks for being a customer. 🙂

second, make free clips of what videos? we don't offer any video footage over 6 minutes long?

third, anyone can afford to "make" free clips. but i seriously can't afford to "host them on a server."

4th, no, we don't have the time to make over 300 free clips.

i hope this helps. 🙂

Of course that helps, you just said that you can make clips, but you cannot afford to host them. I understand that completly and I'll leave it alone. Thanks.

 

[fro617]

Would it be reasonable or feasible to host demo clips on groups, free adult sites, or something like that? Posting one clip per week/month, and rotating them you could keep costs down. Adding banners and paypal worked on amateur sites - would it be out of question to resort to them? 🙂

I'm not sure whether you were just talking to those who CREATED clips or to anyone, but I'm trying to look into some feasible, non-Yahoo-group (because the bandwidth issues REALLY annoy me) way of doing exactly that, at least for a few months. If you know of anywhere really good that I can do that (heck, if you're offering to host it, I'd love it 🙂 ), let me know.

 

[Kalamos]

I'm not sure whether you were just talking to those who CREATED clips or to anyone, but I'm trying to look into some feasible, non-Yahoo-group (because the bandwidth issues REALLY annoy me) way of doing exactly that, at least for a few months. If you know of anywhere really good that I can do that (heck, if you're offering to host it, I'd love it 🙂 ), let me know.

Well, yes, I was proposing a cheaper alternative to "inside" hosting.
But I can't offer means. Just the basic idea.

I can only assume from the lack of replies, producers actually tried it and found it unprofitable. 🙂

Well, reg's!