TickleSlaves "Miranda"... WOW!!!

[Babbles]

That's great for you --- Not for them.

I really don't understand all this non-consensual crap. As a matter of fact I love to give absolute power. Is the sense of having no control of what is going to happen that makes this so awsome!

The point is --- some women are NOT happy about it. Some REALLY hate it,
can't stand it ---- and some were traumatized by relatives as kids with this torture ---- and some, like in TickleSlaves, were traumatized by that bastard.

Imagine if some repulsive creep you don't want touching you,

much less torturing you with something you REALLY HATE or REALLY can't stand -----
tells you he'll pay you to just take pictures.... he promises, it won't take long, no big deal...

and then begins doing something you REALLY hate --- doesn't matter what --- You didn't expect this ---- you never even thought of it ----

whether it's "just" fondling or squeezing you, slapping you, whipping you or tickling you in places you don't want to be tickled,
electrocuting you --- that might not leave marks either if it's "done right.." and the list goes on ----

whatever you REALLY hate and CANNOT TAKE ---

for an hour and a half....(!!)
Not even "just" a few seconds, which is a felony in itself ----

maybe you don't feel all that great that day ---- Maybe you have a headache or muscle cramps, but he doesn't care,
he's got you tied up so he'll do whatever he wants.

And you thought you'd just be tied up for a few minutes
for a few pictures.... Not an hour & a half of something you can't stand for even a minute or two --
by some sick freak who could care less that you can't stand it ----

For WOMEN WHO HATE THIS --- THIS IS WORSE THAN PAIN.

Even for women who are INTO IT --- IT CAN ALSO BE worse than pain
if it's done too long or the wrong way in the wrong places ---- and without safewords, without agreement, REALLY hating it since it's
for these women --- NOT THEIR fantasy, but their nightmare.

Non-consentual is exactly that ---- No permission was given, these are strangers, one agreed to be tied up ----- NOT to be tortured, and they were REALLY upset about it.

And some people here think that (criminal assault) is not only OK,
but funny. which is much worse than "crazy."

And if you don't go along with it ---- You're labelled "crazy" or a pain in the ass, a spoilsport, by the criminal jackasses here who like to watch it when it's REAL & the victim is (a victim, not a willing lee like yourself....)

Criminals who don't give a shit about a wo/man's real agony,
will pay for it, and will ask for more and worse

.... and will then complain about the lack of women on this site.

when they're lucky they're not ---- yet ---- in jail for buying real assault.

The bastard who did this was apparently sued.

I was told there WAS a lawsuit filed which fit this "TickleSlaves" circumstances --
and hopefullly he is still locked up with lots of MUCH BIGGER dudes who like Non-Con JUUUUUUST like he does....


I'm just hoping the hookers or women who were hired & tortured catch up with Tickle Paradise for SELLING their real assault.

And then I hope they catch up with the subhuman assholes who keep buying it, ACKNOWLEDGING THEY THINK OR KNOW THESE WOMEN ARE REALLY UPSET -- no, AGONIZED & TRAUMATIZED ---- Who want MORE of it....

Others have protested over the years --- I was just amazed these threads, and those ads, were not removed.
They ARE illegal, and I shouldn't have to say it ---- it's assault on tape, not the willing session you're describing.

*

 

[Ace Riley]

Jees, so much drama over a clip. Might have to check it out. Honestly Bab's, you've probably sold this clip more than any possible advertisement could.

Do you think games like Grand Theft Auto sell themselves? Bad publicity is good publicity. I didn't even know this video existed, and when I heard non-con I rolled my eyes. But then you started your tirade and, wow, suddenly it just seems interesting enough to watch.

You're like the Fox News of tickling at the moment.

 

[tdmeets1]

Babbles makes some excellent points. Voluntary extreme tickling is one thing, but when the lee has absolutely no idea that this is even on the table, it is wrong. There are some people who have serious issues with being tickled. A friend of mine will break down to tears if you tickle her stomach. What's a fetish for some is a nightmare for others.

 

[Ace Riley]

I bought the video. Reports are highly exaggerated about this being noncon. The guy gives her decent breaks between tickling. I've seen more intense tickling from Viper Productions. This can't even hold a candle to anything DungeonMaidens has done.

She's highly restrained and the laughter is good, but seriously guys. If someone was being nonconsensually tickled, she would not be hamming it up throughout the entire video with the guy. People here need to lighten up on both sides. You guys get wrapped up in drama all too easily. This is tickling for christs sake. Calm the hell down.

The video is not noncon. People would be screaming fucking bloody murder in this situation had it been. The video is thirty minutes long and at the twenty minute mark she goes "Ok, just not in the hips?" please now. Let's stop being kids. It's an entertaining video, but considering how much fucking drama is in this thread you would have thought it to be a snuff film.

All in all a fine clip, but it doesn't need the drama nor the ridiculous price tag. Shit I'm feeling ridiculous Buyer's Remorse at the moment. I probably will never buy a tickling clip again. No lie.

--

Oh, and Babbles, in the realm of fantasy...specifically the sexual side. I'd like to be the first to welcome you to the internet. Where it is perfectly legal and fine to have incest, sodomy, sadistic and masochistic rape fantasies. Hell, Japanese porn has entire libraries devoted to it. Your attempts to piss on the sexual deviance of mankind is laughable. Most of us learned the difference between fantasy and reality a long time ago. I really suggest you try to catch up.

 

[Babbles]

Common sense, decency & literacy sorely lacking.

Once again: I hope it's not real, hope that's correct --- but I'm not about to buy it
if it's labelled real non-con. Period.

* Point is, you did buy it under those circumstances, with that intent. Sarcasm aside.

Jees, so much drama over a clip. Might have to check it out.... wow, suddenly it just seems interesting enough to watch.

I have no doubt that this video is exactly what the makers claim it to be: Non-consensual, in that the model, Miranda (early-mid 20's, brunette and attractive as far as I could tell, but most of her face shots are taken lying down) has agreed to do a "bondage" video, without being told she would also be tickled. For some, no doubt, even the idea of "non-consensual" raises concerns. I too felt pretty uncomfortable after seeing Paradise Vision's first attempt at "non-consensual" tickling awhile back. But Miranda's reactions were far from that disturbing debacle.

She laughs hysterically, to be sure (again, I'm convinced her extreme ticklishness was in no way faked here), and she begs for it to stop after awhile. But during the brief breaks in her torture, it's clear she's doing her best to put up with it, with the best possible good humor.

In addition to her extreme ticklishness, which really seems genuine, the tickling itself is also very, very good, ranging from "test tickles" to locate her vulnerable spots, to out-and-out relentless torture.

As one who strongly prefers upper-body tickling, this one is a dream, focusing on ribs, tummy, armpits and hips (jeez, you have to see her reaction when he goes for the hips)....

...Any way this could be improved upon? Hardly. I suppose the greedy among us could ask for her to wear even less than the bikini Miranda wears throughout this video; and perhaps having two evil ticklers attack her at once would double the effect-- but, it might also just kill her (only kidding)!

...All in all, this was about as close to a perfect video (according to my own personal preferences) that I've seen to date. And I'm anxious to hear if others think the same way...

Guess the little woman should get a medal for being such a good sport. Right. May just be a great strategy for surviving an assault --- or a good fake, but if not -- I'm not willing to pay to encourage that potential crime.

Of course at this point I'm not surprised. I've already written this 50 X but some just can't read, and/or don't want to.

Especially not unpleasant mercenaries like Ace who're always looking for another fight. Not too many knights in shining armor on this site, except thankfully there are a few Dawbs in the mix.

Why don't we WAIT for it to become a snuff film? Hey, maybe that's happened already --- victim had a heart attack, film is hidden in the killer's basement.... And when it does surface 20-30 years later ---- We can count on "gentlemen" like you to buy it, claiming it's, uh, just advertising... Oh, and to ask for the model to be nude the next time!

I bought the video. Reports are highly exaggerated about this being noncon. The guy gives her decent breaks between tickling......
If someone was being nonconsensually tickled, she would not be hamming it up throughout the entire video with the guy. People here need to lighten up on both sides. You guys get wrapped up in drama all too easily. This is tickling for christs sake. Calm the hell down.

The video is not noncon. People would be screaming fucking bloody murder in this situation had it been. The video is thirty minutes long and at the twenty minute mark she goes "Ok, just not in the hips?"....

Like I said, stating the obvious -- what's fine for one person is torture for another. If you don't know by NOW that tickling can be hellish torture, you're comatose at best. ----- "Pain Subs" often avoid tickling.

Any idiot can (should) figure out yes, this may be an irresponsible but fake marketing ploy
but also that people react differently under extreme duress.

If there's doubt ---- much less more than one review that states it's possible or likely --- don't buy it.
If you do, I simply hope cops soon have reason to closely evaluate your harddrives & your living quarters.

Not everyone reacts with threats & screaming when they're tied up and going nowhere.

Survival instinct --- One obvious option, let me SPELL IT OUT: cooperate until you can get the hell outta there without further provoking your captor.

Of course she'd ask the creep nicely to stop torturing her where she can least stand it --- in her way, perhaps hoping to get a decent response --- and maybe some relief --- by going along with it.
If this was real, again, I hope the creep's jailed with like-minded, kinkier and much larger individuals.
Along with anyone caught selling or buying this shit...

I can believe the model didn't know she was going to be tickled but then I'm sure she just went with it. Cha-ching after some laughs. 🙂

DK

Most importantly ---
All of you bought this knowing there's a good possibility it's real non-con.
Not boyfriend material.

Someone else who watched two vids by this jackass, including this one, told me the women react very differently but both did look non-con to him.

Thanks for further supporting what is labelled & what seems like real non-con to many, rather than boycotting it.

HOW MANY TIMES do I have to write --- I share the fantasy, but if this is real it's criminal, and if it's not it's totally irresponsible.

Again, women here should pay attention to who BUYS shit labelled "REAL NON-CON"
These are not guys who care about your fantasies, or anyone else's well being. Just a jerk-off.

I will repeat, for the umpteenth time, for the illiterate who claim to have read my posts:
Any freakin' fantasy is obviously fine --- as long as it's not imposed upon someone unwilling (or underage) who isn't gonna enjoy it.

If you don't get that -----at least stick to (other) videos, just don't bother anyone else. Have a nice life, by yourself.

*

 

[Ace Riley]

These are not guys who care about your fantasies, or anyone else's well being. Just a jerk-off.

I will repeat, for the umpteenth time, for the illiterate who claim to have read my posts:
Any freakin' fantasy is obviously fine --- as long as it's not imposed upon someone unwilling (or underage) who isn't gonna enjoy it.

If you don't get that -----at least stick to (other) videos, just don't bother anyone else. Have a nice life, by yourself.

*

Babbles, I am a good husband. A two time veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars a brother of many and a good son. I cherish my wife and make it a life long mission to my death to fulfill her fantasies.

I care more about the well being of others on a daily basis than you can possibly imagine.

You don't know me, and you make assumptions of the men in this world based on their fantasies. When we're all very, very unique individuals with the openness to enjoy the fantasies which excite us in this limited time on this world.

Nobody here is arguing with you that an actual nonconsensual video is wrong and immoral. But you're arguing that anyone here with a fetish for these things is a "jerk-off" and not worth someones time. I question your taste in people when you're so superficial as to judge someone so frivolously.

Babbles, there is absolutely nothing wrong. Not one iota wrong with having a rape fetish, bondage fetish, school girl fetish, etc, etc... when it is done in the realm of fantasy. When it comes to videos, movies, etc... fantasies can be made to look real quite easily.

We witness murder in movies and they entertain us greatly. Does that make us all passionate for murder? Of course not, to even assume as much would make us ridiculously foolish for even pretending of the notion.

There are people out there that watch CSI every night, you would almost think they were in love with the idea of death and the intricacies of a serial killers mind to the point of being passionate enough to Tivo it every night. Yet are they potential serial killers?

You're the last person in the world to be telling us what to enjoy, and what not to enjoy. You have a problem with a free world having free choice. You label that which you don't understand to the point of lambasting individuals you don't even know.

In the most polite way possible, I guess I'm just trying to tell you to shut the fuck up. Enjoy a world where freedom of interest will be protected by the many, and jerk-offs like myself. If you feel so strongly about it, get a badge and start arresting the perps out there that you feel so passionately against. You know, the real jerk-offs. The ones that don't need "Non-con" movies to bring about your ire every day. They deserve your scorn, not me.

You don't know me.

 

[Babbles]

Nice job changing tone & content. Mine as well, apparently.

You're the last person in the world to be telling us what to enjoy, and what not to enjoy. You have a problem with a free world having free choice. You label that which you don't understand to the point of lambasting individuals you don't even know.

In the most polite way possible, I guess I'm just trying to tell you to shut the fuck up. Enjoy a world where freedom of interest will be protected by the many, and jerk-offs like myself. If you feel so strongly about it, get a badge and start arresting the perps out there that you feel so passionately against. You know, the real jerk-offs. The ones that don't need "Non-con" movies to bring about your ire every day. They deserve your scorn, not me.

You don't know me.

Speaking of FOX NEWS --- another huge difference --- I've never been misquoted so thoroughly.

A problem with "free choice?"

(Where the hell that came from...?!--- A conservative who buys a torture flick, nothing new there ---
telling a liberal who's protesting the potential LACK OF FREE CHOICE on the part of the POTENTIAL VICTIM in said torture flick....
that I'm the one out of line. Incredible, typical gall.

Irony is I'm pro-freakin'-everybody except the "fucking" abusers. I've only written that --- everything's fine with informed consent --- till it's given me carpal tunnel.

Obviously, I have a problem with potential or real ABUSE. And you bought, paid for and supported exactly that.
Not just the abusers themselves belong in prison --- those who cheer them on and buy their product should be in adjacent cells.

Give me a break. No, more importantly, give the models a break.

Suddenly you decide to act like "an officer and a gentleman?" I don't recognize that persona. (Except for the misleading choice of "quote" and the "fuck off.") If you actually stuck to it that'd be another story.

*Either you really don't read ---
OR you're just ignoring the point NOW because there is NO EXCUSE for buying this shit, marketed as it is, with its reputation and these reviews.

But here you knew damn well I was talking about the apparently Non-Con VIDEO, NOT the fetish
proving you actually CAN read when you wish ---- but your tone's quite different as well ---
NO CONCERN for the issue, for any potential abuse --- THAT'S the Point.

Jees, so much drama over a clip. Might have to check it out. Honestly Bab's, you've probably sold this clip more than any possible advertisement could.

Do you think games like Grand Theft Auto sell themselves? Bad publicity is good publicity. I didn't even know this video existed, and when I heard non-con I rolled my eyes. But then you started your tirade and, wow, suddenly it just seems interesting enough to watch.

You're like the Fox News of tickling at the moment.

Suddenly it's "interesting enough" for you to buy & watch.
No wonder you refer to Fox, your tactics are just as illicit,
---misquoting me and assigning a whole new meaning to my words
while attempting to change your stripes in the process.

*You are the last person to criticize anyone with the snarky sarcastic attitude you use
until you decide to play "polite" and pretend to be sensitive while telling me to "shut the fuck up" when I'm expressing a necessary concern
about POTENTIAL VICTIMS IN NON-CON VIDEOS, or what appear to be --- NOT THE FETISH,

NOT THE FANTASIES ---- I've written that just a few hundred times I'm sure...

Geez, I have to quote myself since you just took what you wanted out of context --- This was the FIRST statement,
and it's larger print --- kinda hard to miss this unless you want to:

Once again: I hope it's not real, hope that's correct --- but I'm not about to buy it
if it's labelled real non-con. Period.

* Point is, you did buy it under those circumstances, with that intent. Sarcasm aside.

You quote me out of context to support an inaccurate statement ---- totally ignoring the MAJORITY of the post ---- repeated (ad nauseum) statements that NON-CON VIDEOS are the problem ----
When these fantasies are imposed in real life or in videos such as these, too great a possibility here, with this "producer" --

Here's ANOTHER sentence you conveniently neglected to post --- Just prior to the fragment you twisted; 🙄

Thanks for further supporting what is labelled & what seems like real non-con to many, rather than boycotting it.

HOW MANY TIMES do I have to write --- I share the fantasy, but if this is real it's criminal, and if it's not it's totally irresponsible.

Again, women here should pay attention to who BUYS shit labelled "REAL NON-CON"
These are not guys who care about your fantasies, or anyone else's well being. Just a jerk-off.

At this point no one can fault me for emphasizing with caps if not bold,
so it might not be ignored this time:

I DON'T TAKE CHANCES WITH POTENTIALLY SUPPORTING ANY NON-CON ACTIVITY ON FILM.

THE NON-CON VIDEOS are the issue here. Especially these.

YOU BOUGHT THIS ONE under the assumption it might be real ----

Like the other guy/s I "lambasted" for laughing & stating the submissive model went along with this for the money afterward though they admit they think she was tortured unwillingly ---

If you had any concern for women or any potenial innocent victim
you DON'T BUY SOMETHING LABELLED AND ADVERTISED AS REAL
and may I in turn say politely "FUCKING" ABUSE

while snickering at someone expressing concern for the model.


Therefore once again and 2ce over you are clearly no gentleman.

*

 

[Red faction]

Jees, so much drama over a clip. Might have to check it out. Honestly Bab's, you've probably sold this clip more than any possible advertisement could.

very true Ace

On a side note Babbles if you think this clip hardcore
maybe you should watch some TickleJapan clips

(now thinking about it ? maybe that's a bad idea) lol

 

[TKL_M28_LI_NY]

Clip?

 

[chaz36]

Ridiculous! Doesn't even begin to cover it!

 

[coastdude]

I wish Tickle Slaves would produce some more material

 

[coastdude]

How can I contact the producer? Seems like KOSPRO has vanished

 

[Babbles]

Yes, he did disappear. Hopefully in Singapore, they're big on corporal punishment...

I wish Tickle Slaves would produce some more material

How can I contact the producer? Seems like KOSPRO has vanished

You & chaz should feel free to join him in his jail cell & suggest the extra-curricular activity.

-- Make sure to bring extra copies so all the violent inmates know *just what you boys are lookin' for more of!! 😀

*

 

[Banshee]

Man

Babbles is rather a tool.

 

[coastdude]

You Americans sure yak a lot about jail, which is understandable I suppose since one percent of the U.S. population, that's right one out of every 100 Americans, is currently in jail

 

[tocansam]

very good video was worth the price

 

[xionking]

This is the greatest thread ever.

 

[ninefive]

As much as this debate is going on, I think its safe to say that the producer did not tickle these girls without their consent. I think the whole thing is just an act to make the viewer buy into the videos more. Do you really think that the girls would take the tickling so light-heartedly if they did not know they would be tickled beforehand? Honestly, those reactions do not seem like the type associated with someone who did not know beforehand that they would be tickled.

Just my thoughts.

 

[giggle-maker]

I hate to burst this bubble but you guys all have to think logicaly.

The Ler has to untie the Lee at some point.

If this was a true non-con, a true one, what do you think would happen after that? The Lee would probably attack the Ler either right there or, if she was really psycho-pissed at the Ler, hire a few 300lb guys to hunt the Ler down and, to quote a famous line "go mideval on his ass".

I'll throw an example out there. Most if not all of these models are at minimum, ok looking. They are also in fact, bondage models who are probably sexually active in some way shape or form. How dificult do you think it would be for one of them to find some big knee-breakers to perform some revenge in exchange for money, favors or both.

Then there is the legal side of it. (and this should just scream Cap't Obvious) The Lee would be considered a victim and as evidence goes....there's the motherfucking video!!

Either way, the bottom line is, if this was real non-con, the Ler would still eventually have to untie the Lee.

NOW...

As far as Babbles complaint about purchasing a clip that is, at minimum, advertised as "real" non-con keep one thing in mind: in order for the clip producer to sell his product as real non-con he successfully has to:

1. film a scene that looks like the real thing

and

2. N.E.V.E.R. give any kind of clue that it was staged.

I'm not saying it's ethical or unethical to lie to the customer in order to sell the clip. I'm just pointing out that in order to market to those looking for the "real thing" he has to make and sustain the belief in that customer that it is in fact the REAL THING!


True marketed non-con does not exist. All it takes is basic common sense to figure this out.