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TICKLING PARADISE IS *CRIMINAL* for assault--

Unfortunate By-Product.

Yes, unfortunately my e-yelling may have that effect, as I noted initially.

As I also noted, I hope it also draws the attention of others who'll be equally pissed, and if that includes the FBI I won't compain. I know, fat chance.

However, the actor wasn't REALLY TORTURED in Mel's flick. AND/OR it didn't PROMOTE OR ACCEPT real torture.
BIG difference.
 
Redmage said:
I don't think that's quite what Venray meant, Isabeau. Rather, the people who jump and scream about these videos provide advertising for them whether they want to or not.

It's like when all the protests against "The Last Temptation of Christ" turned it from a minor art film into a hit.


thanks for the correction Redmage..... i see now..

isabeau
 
That is exactly correct RedMage....it happens here all of the time and ususally one video company is the one at the center of it all....

Must be hard to drum up business when most of what I have seen from them is obvious acting and very little of anything else....

Frenzy...I suggest you actually take time to read your own posts and see how ridiculous you are coming across....

Your complaints have no merit whatsoever....If anything illegal were being done by them I would be the first to report it and have them shut down....
 
FrenzyTickles said:
However, the actor wasn't REALLY TORTURED in Mel's flick. AND/OR it didn't PROMOTE OR ACCEPT real torture. BIG difference.
I'm afraid that if you want to apply the same standard to Mel that you are applying to PV, you're going to have PROVE that the actor wasn't tortured. If you can't demonstrate that, then you're morally obligated to be outraged.
 
i was sort of wondering, was that sarcasm when you said i was a gem among rocks?

isabeau
 
Isabeau, definitely no sarcasm, the comparison was positive, I've obviously had only good reason to thank you from previous posts, you've only been polite & helpful.

Redmage,
very funny also. If you're comparing standard Hollywood/Mel Gibson flicks with privately filmed torture videos your previous comments are even more questionable, however well put, and as I've said I do appreciate your earlier in-depth replies explaining the economic (unfeasability?) of these videos being real. I *DID* get that, believe or not.

But as you're sick of reading, unfortunately there's no way to distinguish, and torture videos by their nature require an absolute guarantee (that they're not real, and that can't be done here I see). So they shouldn't be sold or promoted, again. I *DID also get you & others seem to be convinced, with good but not definite reason, that this stuff is faked. I'm not quite that dense, but the possibility some videos are real is still alive & kicking.

Venray,
your last comment gave me more hope than most (of yours especially) for sure, if you hate the idea of someone being truly tortured as much as I do. I'm just questioning from what's presented in such detail, and the likelihood it could also lead to real abuse.

That's a perfectly valid complaint as well.

I realize I came on strong, still am depending upon the nature of the post perhaps, but as i said somewhere I had no desire to do this, I just commented upon what I saw presented clearly and as a very real possibility. If you feel the same way you should understand what SEEMS TO BE REAL torture needs to be questioned in depth.

I already stated my position, hopefully with enough variables to make it more dimensional & less trying -- I'll try not to repeat it indefinitely, though again no one
has offered absolute proof --- Until that time, this nasty crap should not be circulating.


Sadists can get their kicks without the RISK of actual assault taking place, thank you.

As I also said somewhere, snuff films come into the same category, though of course infinitely worse. If something is presented as real on the internet especially, it doesn't have Hollywood safety nets & publicity. There's too much chance it could already be or become reality. Even if 2% is real, it's not an option.
 
FrenzyTickles said:
Redmage,[/COLOR] [/B]very funny also. If you're comparing standard Hollywood/Mel Gibson flicks with privately filmed torture videos your previous comments are even more questionable, however well put, and as I've said I do appreciate your earlier in-depth replies explaining the economic (unfeasability?) of these videos being real. I *DID* get that, believe or not.

But as you're sick of reading, unfortunately there's no way to distinguish, and torture videos by their nature require an absolute guarantee (that they're not real, and that can't be done here I see). So they shouldn't be sold or promoted, again. I *DID also get you & others seem to be convinced, with good but not definite reason, that this stuff is faked. I'm not quite that dense, but the possibility some videos are real is still alive & kicking.
I'm not being funny at all FT. You have to apply the same standard across the board. You've already declared that ANY possibility that torture in a movie is real, no matter how unlikely it might seem, is grounds to condemn it. So unless you can conclusively prove that it is not real, you are morally obligated to assume that it is.

You've written this several times. So I'm inviting you to live that way. If you realize that you can't then perhaps you should re-examine your standards.
 
uhhhh

This topic is gettin a little boring to read,

Besides, Paradise Vision or ticklingparadise.com sux anyways
 
FrenzyTickles said:
Venray,[/B] your last comment gave me more hope than most (of yours especially) for sure, if you hate the idea of someone being truly tortured as much as I do. I'm just questioning from what's presented in such detail, and the likelihood it could also lead to real abuse.

That's a perfectly valid complaint as well.

.[/B]

Those that will abuse do not need a fantasy video to make them do it. Unfortunately it is in their nature to do so. A video will not "cause" one to act in this way.

I abhor non con torture in any form. (unless several women wish to go at me.... 🙄 ) That is why I only participate where consent is given and any lee has the option of a safe word when I play.

I think you have over reacted here, but I understand where your concern comes from. Myriads explained it the best. It isnt real. It is a gimmick to sell the fantasy....a big part of what a fetish video company is all about.....Don't be too quick to judge here.... 🙂
 
thank you Frenzy i try to be polite and kind, even when disagreeing. i dont believe in attacks or put downs. its not my way.

isabeau
 
Frenzy, I haven't seen this video. I will buy several copies, and then send them to my friends. Once I have collected the thoughts of this focus group, I will report my results.
 
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