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Trent Lott the Racist F***K

ShiningIce

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And people wonder why I hate right-wingers. 😡


WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Republican leader Trent Lott said Wednesday he made a "mistake of the head and not of the heart" when making comments that have clouded his future and further strained relations between the GOP and blacks.



"The words were terrible and I regret that," Lott, R-Miss.


In remarks last Thursday at a birthday party for 100-year-old Sen. Strom Thurmond (news, bio, voting record), R-S.C., Lott suggested the country would have been better off if Thurmond, running for president on a pro-segregationist ticket in 1948, had won.


Lott, backed by fellow Republicans, urged people to accept his apology so "we will be able to move on to other issues."


Democrats said Lott, who spoke to conservative radio host Sean Hannity in an interview televised on Fox News, had failed to satisfy questions about whether he was qualified to lead the Senate and about his party's policies toward minorities.


"My guess is that uneasiness that many Republicans are feeling about Lott becoming the majority leader will become more pronounced in the wake of this interview," former Vice President Al Gore (news - web sites) said.


Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick (news, bio, voting record), D-Mich., a member of the Congressional Black Caucus (news - web sites), said it was a time to bring Americans together. "I'm not sure, in spite of what the senator just said to us today, that he understands that, that he has the commitment to do that," she told Fox after Lott's interview.


"I simply do not believe the country can today afford to have someone who has made these statements again and again be the leader of the United States Senate," said Sen. John Kerry (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., one of several potential 2004 presidential candidates to weigh in against Lott.


No Republican senator has called for Lott to step down as majority leader, the post he is to take over next month. GOP aides generally agreed that Lott would survive with his job intact once he made a public apology.


"The words were wrong, inappropriate, but his track record is one which is very aggressively committed to fairness in our society," said Sen. Judd Gregg (news, bio, voting record), R-N.H.


Retiring Sen. Jesse Helms (news, bio, voting record), R-N.C., interviewed by The Associated Press in Raleigh, said, "I resent personally the efforts to try to sling mud at Trent Lott because he was trying to praise Strom Thurmond. He may have chose a word that was that was too vulnerable to his critics. And they leap on it like a puppy dog on a biscuit."

White House officials said they were still debating whether to weigh in on the matter.

Republicans outside the White House said they were looking for a signal of support or discontent from President Bush (news - web sites), his staff or the Bush-controlled Republican National Committee (news - web sites). Such a sign could seal Lott's fate.

But one Republican party activist said he had spoken to two conservative GOP senators "and they're nervous. It might be serious ... Democrats will mention this every day in the South until the 2004 Election Day."

Lott, at Thurmond's birthday event, said Mississippians were proud to have voted for Thurmond for president in 1948. "And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."

At first, Lott tried to deflect criticism, saying his speech was only meant to be lighthearted praise of the retiring Thurmond. He later apologized that "a poor choice of words conveyed to some the impression that I embraced the discarded policies of the past. Nothing could be further from the truth."

But the Jackson Clarion-Ledger in Mississippi reported Wednesday that Lott made a very similar statement when he appeared with Thurmond at a rally in Jackson, Miss., on Nov. 2, 1980. After Thurmond spoke against federal pre-emption of state laws, Lott said, "You know, if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."

Lott, in his interview Wednesday, listed his own efforts to open opportunities for minorities in such areas as community renewal and education spending. The policies of 1948 "were wrong then, they've been repudiated, we've moved so far beyond that," he said.

Democratic organizer Donna Brazile, who is black, said Lott had "opened up old wounds." Democratic presidential candidates, to secure the black votes they need to win, "have to condemn those statements and show where they stand," she said.

In addition to Kerry and Gore, who may make another run in 2004, Sen. Joe Lieberman (news - web sites), D-Conn., another possible contender, issued a statement saying Bush must speak out more clearly to deny "these harmful words."

Added Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, who has already announced his candidacy for 2004: "It will be very hard for George Bush to talk to any African-Americans about why they should support the Republican Party with a leader in the Senate who believes in the segregationist policies of the 1950s and 1960s."

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer (news - web sites), for the second day in a row, declined Wednesday to directly criticize Lott or his statement.

"America is a much richer and better nation as a result of the changes that have been made to our society involving integration and improvement of relations between races," Fleischer said. "The president is grateful for that effort."

Black groups, including the NAACP, have said Lott should step down as Republican leader.
 
ShiningIce said:
And people wonder why I hate right-wingers. 😡


Um, Ice? Do you realize that you just used one man's (alleged) sweeping, generalized statment of hatred towards an entire group of people to "justify" your own sweeping, generalized statment of hatred towards an entire group of people? 😕
 
YES!! becuz Im pissed! If good ol Trent can do it AND GET AWAY WITH IT so can I 😡
 
Get away with it...

Doubtful. He most likely will be forced out of his position, either immediately or on another pretext shortly. He's never been popular with moderate Republicans because he IS a bit of a leaner towards the right, and was a compromise choice when he was appointed. So, if you call having ones career basically ended and your entire lifes work/legacy tarnished, "getting away with it", then you have a nasty set of rules and I hope you don't run afoul of your own standards. Q
 
So I am a right winger. Do you have the balls to call me racist too. You have just become even more prejudiced than the person you hate. Think before you speak or write, this is the same mistake Lott made and you have just made it as well
 
Yeah what was I thinking why would two people who are both right-wing have the same political views?? Gee I was so off base here. 🙄 Ok, then Kurch enlighten me . Whats the difference between Lotts views and other righ-wingers?? Especially yours. Im curious.
 
Kurch..right wing..lol?

Kurch is dead center moderate Ice from what I've read. One of the big differences moderates have with Lotts faction/views is the question of abortion. Others most likely are gun control (or lack thereof) and death penalty in many instances. Still other moderates would like a bit more attention paid to social services being restored...no one person can speak for all segments of any group, myself included, but I think I'm a fairly typical ceneterist in the moderate and independent voting blocs. Perhaps a few others will chime in, but I'm betting those are the big 3 or 4 differences. Might have missed campaign reform and term limits..it gets cloudy at times with him depending on whether or not it's an election year.

Where we agree with him would be on the role of government in most cases versus personal responsibility, and the general course we'd like to see the economy steered towards, which of course interacts strongly with the aforementioned role of govt. Security, defense spending, corporate responsibilities and limitations of the amount of blame you can run around affixing to everything but oneself would be a few others.

Just a quick rundown, but I think you can begin to draw a distinction now... Q
 
Well not knowing Lott that well I can't say what his views are. I obviously don't support the statement he made which got him into all this hot water. As for the views of all conseratives I can't speak for all conservatives although I am honored you think me worthy. I think people are bit to complicated to put them all into one nice neat category as many people like to do these days. My views I know much better of course a list follows:

I am for the death penalty.
I am for the right for a woman to choose whether or not to have an abortion.
I am against affirmative action. People should be treated equally.
I am for legalizing drugs.
I am for legalizing prostitution.
I am for tax cuts, cutting taxes, eliminating taxes all that good stuff.
I support a persons right to bear arms.
I support the right for gay people to marry and the state to recognize such marriages.
If there are any other issues I left out please feel free to ask.

So I am racist? I really would like to know before I go to bed tonight.
 
Well Q I think I fall more into the libertarian category but I really hate labels.
 
Oh sigh I guess I'll just have to go to bed wihtout ever knowing what Ice thinks of me.:dropatear
 
Oh Gawd...

Who gives a shit? Im glad he spoke his mind. More power to him. At least he aint' no coward. So since I am a right-winger, I am racist? That assumption just shows how shallow you are.
 
Oh absolutely Krokus I have immense respect for the racist prick. Im so glad decided to share his opinion with the rest of the world I feel so much better now knowing Trent Lott supports segregation. 😡 Hmm I wonder Krokus would u respect oh lets say some crazy black racist for speaking his opinion and even defend him like u did dear Mr Lott?
 
No

....Of course I would not. Im white. And for the record, I have encountered OH so many more racist black people than in ANY other ethnic group. By the way, there already was a black racist prick that spoke his mind. His name was malcom x. The Militant Moron.
 
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*Sigh* Dont confuse anger for racism. Dont be a hypocrite. Take your medication. Malcom X was a hero and Lott is an idiot . 🙄
 
LOL

Yep...thats the kind of response I expected. Thanks, ice, you never let me down. By the way, I am curious, what did you mean by "take your medication"?
 
No prob krokus uve entertained me many a time glad I could return the favor 🙂
 
He made a stupid comment 21 years ago, big deal. The comment in the situation does not imply he is racist either. Just a stupid comment. I think the race card is way overplayed anyways.

As with Krokus, I have experienced racism several times with black people. Try having black refs. officiate a game when you're on an all white basketball team..
 
Hm...

Yanno ice, I am a tad disappointed. The "Take your medication" comment was a little out of line. I don't agree with anything you ever say, but I don't take personal shots at you. Oh well. For the record, this is my medication. Whenever I am feeling angry, I just get on here and post comments to piss you off. And it obviously works. So, once again, thanks for never letting me down.
 
Try having black refs. officiate a game when you're on an all white basketball team..



try having whites officiate a game when ur on an all black team playing an all white team. Why krokus you seem upset whatever is the matter Im merely concerned for your well being. 😕
 
ShiningIce said:




Why krokus you seem upset whatever is the matter Im merely concerned for your well being. 😕


Yet another cheap shot. Shiningass, your setting a new game record. You can't argue with the points made so you resort to personal shots. Typical.
 
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Really Krokus you do seem quite disgruntled perhaps a laxative might make ya feel better. 😉
 
LOL

Well, ice, you win buddy. I just took a shower, and watched a mob movie. I feel much better now. I swear, I have more mood swings than a pregnant woman. 😀 😎
 
Ice, Krokus...both of you...grab a bottle, put on a fresh diaper, and crawl in the cradle. It's nap time for ill mannered children. You're the same person with a line drawn down the middle to represent the extreme on both sides. Do you even realize how silly you appear? Sheesh?🙄

Unlike the thread I started to discuss this topic, this one flew into a rant almost immediately. Big surprise with the F-word in the thread title. Back to topic perhaps? Trent Lott?

One might think that I would automatically support him given that he's from my home state. But...that person would be wrong. Lott's non-Washington home is LITERALLY down the street from mine. I've met the man and his family many times in my life. I can say that none of the Lotts have ever behaved or spoken in a manner that would make me think they were racists, anti-semites, or poverty haters. A nice conservative bunch of folks. (Not politically speaking, but just a laid back group.) I wonder if the same comment had been made by a non-Southerner, if the focus on his words would have been so extreme....just a point for thought there.

Mad Kalnod summed up my thoughts in the other Trent Lott thread. I too think he was just trying to give the old man a pat on the back, but did it with the wisdom of a boob! For his blunder, and his lack of tact and forethought I think his days are numbered. There are far worse things in life than being a racist. MANY people are racist, be they black or "other." One of those other things is an elected politician not fully representing his home when he opens his mouth. Another might be lacking the social skills needed to realize he's hurt a number of folks with off-the-wall words such as the ones he said.

Trent Lott is the perfect example of what I think is wrong with our country. He's a career politician who cares less for his country than he does about the Rolex on his wrist.

Good day, folks...and lighten up. By far, I've seen more hate spewed here than when Lott opened his mouth!:sowrong:

Joby
 
Hm.

Silly, huh. Ok. Well, all that little comment did was motivate me to continue to represent the "Extreme" side. Trust me, im not the minority on this issue...I might be here at the TMF...the most politically correct site on the web, but in the real world, I am not.
 
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