Twelve reasons why gay people should not be allowed to get married

[PainTrain]

, I think when Jesus returns, He's going to be exceptionally disappointed in everyone for the way this is going down...

I'm still going to get married, whether the US government allows it or not...

As a Gay Christian, I couldn't agree more! You go girl! =P

But I honestly believe that the majority of the gay community just wants the rights. It's not really about the title of "marriage"... Honestly, with the divorce rate the way it is, you can keep that title. I'd consider it an insult.

 

[Camel26]

Hello my brother--welcome aboard! I don't recall if we've officially introduced ourselves--but I'm Camel, the resident Lesbian...😉

And I'm so glad you are still faithful/spiritual...so many gay men and lesbians I know have lost their ability to retain their faith after coming out due to their religion's stance on their bedroom antics...so it's refreshing to meet someone else who still believes that God hasn't abandoned them but did, in fact, create them in all of His glory...

But that's just how I see it from my Jewish stance...none of us are mistakes...God doesn't make junk...

 

[Betchass1]

I'm going to have to agree...as long as I get all of the 1,138 rights that I am not allowed, I don't care if you call it civil unions or whatever...

But frankly, after skimming through the arguments on this thread, I have to say this: The ones who are arguing most are straight...and though I know you are not being blatantly insensitive about this, and I'm impressed by some of the depth of the arguments going on, you are all straight men...

If you'll pardon my French, quit your bitchin!!! You can all get married and have every right afforded to you under the law...I don't...and religious arguments and everything else aside, the issue comes down to whether or not gay people deserve to be treated equally under the law--is homosexuality a part of the human condition or is it just some fetish? And THAT is what it boils down to...equality...that's what all of us homos want...to be given the SAME rights as everyone else...we get the fact that every major religion thinks we are an abomination...however, there is supposed to be a separation of church and state and, despite the religious right basically running this country right now, this is not about Jesus, Moses, or Mohammad...this is about allowing 10% of the population to be treated equally...and not as second class citizens...and considering that whole "love thy neighbor" shtick, I think when Jesus returns, He's going to be exceptionally disappointed in everyone for the way this is going down...

My two cents for now...

I'm still going to get married, whether the US government allows it or not...

I did a search just now for these 1,138 rights, and I must say I'm impressed by the list. I've always felt that men didn't have too many rights with marriage, but this isn't necessarily part of a law so much as precedent and how laws are interpreted, and culture. I don't ever intend to marry, for what it's worth.

You're right about the issue not being religion, but in my mind the issue itself is an open-and-shut case. Unfortunately still open, I guess. As far as religion in government, it ought to be a non-issue, simply because it's just not an option.
But you know, this is how conversation works. You weren't posting, so we argued something we found interesting. Bitching is a fundamental American right, and the day they take it away I'll be out in the street marching!

 

[Betchass1]

As a Gay Christian, I couldn't agree more! You go girl! =P

But I honestly believe that the majority of the gay community just wants the rights. It's not really about the title of "marriage"... Honestly, with the divorce rate the way it is, you can keep that title. I'd consider it an insult.

I just realized the one way marriage could affect me. My g/f is Romanian, and her student visa is up in one year. Sadly, her staying would require a step I don't see myself taking.

 

[Camel26]

You have the right to argue--free speech is beautiful...and I will never take that away...

But now that you see the rights I don't have solely because I'm a dyke, do you see why I'm so infuriated? Do you see how I'm so irate that sometimes I can't post to this thread because I'm too pissed off to give a rational response that won't get the mods angry?

THAT is where folks don't get it...this is ridiculous...being considered a second class citizen...it sucks...and it's psychologically painful...

 

[chickles_:)]

You have the right to argue--free speech is beautiful...and I will never take that away...

But now that you see the rights I don't have solely because I'm a dyke, do you see why I'm so infuriated? Do you see how I'm so irate that sometimes I can't post to this thread because I'm too pissed off to give a rational response that won't get the mods angry?

THAT is where folks don't get it...this is ridiculous...being considered a second class citizen...it sucks...and it's psychologically painful...

Hiya Camela! 🙂
I can't even begin to imagine,,, other than the occasions where being half-oriental/caucasian draws desparaging looks:sharp_tee:
Still i am so with you, girl!! *nodsnods*

There needs to be room for all of us or there isn't room for anyone.

Many blessings,

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Perhaps it would have been better to PM her to tell her that than to bump this unstable thread. It seemed we had all reached a conclusion and ending and left on our own terms, but now that its back at the top, its open game again and I can't gurantee that everyone won't leave it alone.

Hopefully those that already said their bit won't revive it any further. Theres no point in discussing it twice.

 

[nessonite1]

yeah...I think maybe it's best if this thread gets closed before it flares up again.