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That's exactly what I suggested happened. That sort of tells you I did not presume that you had ignored me. I meant it when I said this conversation is over. It needs to be continued in private, if at all.
 
nessonite said:
That's exactly what I suggested happened. That sort of tells you I did not presume that you had ignored me. I meant it when I said this conversation is over. It needs to be continued in private, if at all.

It's funny how my posts disappear first, but his remain after, as if mine were the priority. 😛
 
Hello? I said any posts that appear after my warning. Since I said the conversation is over he hasnt replied at all. You have. Multiple times. Therefore those get deleted as I said they would be. Did I happen to mention that this is over? That we shouldnt be cluttering up this thread with this nonsense?

nerrad...you said pretty much what I said only in a much more eloquent way. I need a script writer XD
 
nerrad said:
I think the three or four of you taking it on would make it more stable, not less.

This whole "what if" situation is playing out right here in this thread. TT is one guy - "What if something happens and he can't handle it..."? Well, he gives everyone a month's notice as to what's going on and the options present themselves. Just like what's happening here now.

Exactly. And there was absolutely no problem with my raising that concern or question. It was, in fact, very legitimate and it's good to see at least two people accept that.

nerrad said:
TT has been gracious enough to foot the whole bill this entire time. If, for example, four of you split it, that's $61 each. If someone, for whatever reason, couldn't swing that and had to get out, their $61 portion would then be spread across three other people. That means another $20.33. That's certainly a softer blow than asking someone to absorb $244 per month. Hell, that's a car payment to some people and you're not as likely to find as many people who take that on. Isn't the average age here something like 22? Regardless, you have a few core people that are veterans and volunteered to keep it going at any cost to them alone, so I see nothing but the strength in numbers. Instead of fearing it may go away if the admin bolts, you have the security of knowing that there are multiple people with the means and the desire to maintain it. I think it eliminates the "eggs in one basket" scenario and I was surprised to learn TT was going solo all this time anyway. Kudos to him.

I think it's great you're all willing and made the offer. I also agree that involving more people would be a challenge. People handle things at different times of the month. Some don't pay bills till the last few calendar days. You'd get random things coming in and it'd be a round the clock task just collecting money.

"Eggs in one basket" was exactly my point. I wanted to expel that idea, as soon as I could, so that no doubt would remain in their suggestion.

By asking what their plan entailed, it encouraged them to explain their plan more fully so that everyone else would understand it and so others may suggest things, as you have, so others wouldn't feel excluded or that this is the only idea that will matter. It's not my fault someone took it the wrong way.

Yes, he has been footing the bill all this time, and that is amazing.
 
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nessonite said:
Hello? I said any posts that appear after my warning. Since I said the conversation is over he hasnt replied at all. You have. Multiple times. Therefore those get deleted as I said they would be. Did I happen to mention that this is over? That we shouldnt be cluttering up this thread with this nonsense?

nerrad...you said pretty much what I said only in a much more eloquent way. I need a script writer XD

The discussion is perfectly fine otherwise, as nerrad is adding to it and building some of his points off of what I said. It's only nonsense when someone interjects with insults. It was fine, baring that, and still is. Like I said, if you think they clutter the thread you can always delete the problematic ones. Isn't that preferable? There no point to keeping them if they're regarded as unsightly or will allow others to quote them later and continue the now over side-bar incident.
 
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I remember a certain website that was run by a well liked individual
(the rocking) who found a rather interesting solution to such a financial problem. He would request that everyone clicked on a link which contributed a tiny amount like $.01 to his site per click or something. I was wondering if this was a possible viable option. Also I noticed that over at TMF, commercial presence is definitely noticable, but i'm unsure if that has anything to do with financial upkeep for the forum.

EDIT: just forgot to ask... how much space is being wasted on duplicate content. I should be careful using the word wasted, but less duplicated content would also mean less space used and could lead to a save on bandwidth.

Just my two cents
 
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I saw this last night but wanted to sleep on it a bit before I replied. Yeah, it would be nice to lessen the amount by splitting it up amongst 3 or 4 people. This would be fine for the short term. I have an idea for the long term but need to do a bit of research first.
 
tkpatience said:
I remember a certain website that was run by a well liked individual
(the rocking) who found a rather interesting solution to such a financial problem. He would request that everyone clicked on a link which contributed a tiny amount like $.01 to his site per click or something. I was wondering if this was a possible viable option. Also I noticed that over at TMF, commercial presence is definitely noticable, but i'm unsure if that has anything to do with financial upkeep for the forum.

EDIT: just forgot to ask... how much space is being wasted on duplicate content. I should be careful using the word wasted, but less duplicated content would also mean less space used and could lead to a save on bandwidth.

Just my two cents

Do you mean like a sponsors system? I used to work for a website that used that and so long as the site stayed in top 5 for it's genre, the server would foot the bill.

The functionality of the site was in no way affected, and I might add that the features back then were actually more advanced then the features this site uses, which is proof that a host or server doesn't just sponsor crappy little webpages that get good hits. They will sponser fully-functional webboards like this one. Although, this was quite some time ago and I do know how to go about aqquiring sponsors the way the other admins the site had did, since it was their idea and they took care of it.

If there is a major downside to this however, it's that you may have to pander to the host's services, products, etc., and advertize them on your site. If you don't stay on top of this stuff and practically jump into bed with them, then they withdrawl their support rather quickly.
 
My, so much happens when I am gone...unfortunately I am unable to assist. If I could I would.
 
ribber said:
My, so much happens when I am gone...unfortunately I am unable to assist. If I could I would.

I'll bet!

Say, not that it bothers me and my fast connection, but do you think maybe you could resize that second animated gif in your signature? It is rather large.
 
It was a while ago but I believe that the admin stated that he wanted to avoid resorting to blasitng us with ads at all costs. Though if it comes to that it's better than letting the site die.
 
Actually, I don't recall ever seeing a banner or ad on the sites I was on that used sponsors. I'm starting to wonder how Dan did it then, since I know he wasn't paying a dime for that site...

Anyways, sponsorship can be beneficial if you pair up with a good sponsor who is going to be reasonable. It shouldn't be dismissed entirely...though, it's not ideal either.

Your two cents was worthwhile though, tkpatience. 🙂
 
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I don't know how much bandwith you use but 244/month is too much. Try using google ads. I don't know if they go for porn though.
 
I have no idea how much bandwidth this place uses. But the price does seem high.

My band uses HostGator for our forums. Php pages, 4 blogs, 11 content management apps, tons of other stuff. We pay $9.99/month for 75G bandwidth and 5G of disk space. Another package is 500G bandwidth and 25G disk space for $75/month. Much to pick from. If you're not familiar with it, it's a great setup. Even if it's not right for the TT, it's worth a look.
 
mdizzle said:
I don't know how much bandwith you use but 244/month is too much. Try using google ads. I don't know if they go for porn though.

The site uses between 1500-2000 gigs per month in bandwidth. I just reviewed Google's terms and they do not support adult related sites. :wooha:
 
I take it back. At 2000G, that's not an outrageous price. I actually would've guessed this place more like 1000-1500G/month, with 1500 being ridiculously high.

Wow.
 
My suggestion, albeit not as professional as most are... goes a little something like this.

Set up A paypal account, give it a funny obvious name. One nobody would contribute to accidentally, and let EVERYBODY on TT know what it is.

Do not require ANYBODY to donate, and have the 3 or 4 of you foot the bill for the site. Any donation money that happens to come in is put into a "Slosh Fund" incase anybody dips out, can't afford it one month, has financial problems, ect. Besides, then it would allow people with irregular incomes (such as myself) to donate when we have the money. Or, instead of using the "Slosh Fund" as a "incase somebody... ____" you can use it to ease the burden each month on the 3 or 4 of you who are actually going to backbone the community, much like TT has been for as long as I've been around.

Much props for that, by the way, TT. If I ever happen to run into you somewhere, and its known that your TT, your getting a round on the lizard boy.
 
That would be a very smart way to handle things, Chameleon. As much as I love the people of this forum it's a sad fact that when there's a free site people want to keep it free. It would be VERY hard if not impossible to get people to commit to a regular donation, no matter how small. It's some sort of hump people just can't get over.
Irregular "just because" donations to create a bit of a reserve probably would be easy enough to get.
Rest assured though that the site will not die. ^^ There are too many of us who are willing to work hard to keep it running. ^^
 
TickleTheater said:
The site uses between 1500-2000 gigs per month in bandwidth. I just reviewed Google's terms and they do not support adult related sites. :wooha:

That's a motherload of bandwith. $3000 a year to operate isn't cheap. I don't know what to tell you dude.
 
Being a newer member and risking the chance of speaking out of turn....If you multiply the number of active members by say $1 US (or even $5 US, for that matter) and have them send it to a PO Box, I think that would cover your costs, and then some?? Just an idea. I'd really hate to see this site dissolved, as it is my top choice these days, and considering the quality of this site, I think most folks would gladly pay.
 
ticklefreak65 said:
Being a newer member and risking the chance of speaking out of turn....If you multiply the number of active members by say $1 US (or even $5 US, for that matter) and have them send it to a PO Box, I think that would cover your costs, and then some?? Just an idea. I'd really hate to see this site dissolved, as it is my top choice these days, and considering the quality of this site, I think most folks would gladly pay.
It sounds good to me, at least for an interim solution.
 
I agree. It allows payments to be in the form of cash, cashier's checks, and money orders. The only downside to cashier's checks and money orders for such a small ammount is the effort itself for such a small ammount. Just putting a dollar in an envelop should suffice.
 
TickleTheater said:
Really expensive. Why don't look for another provider ?. Some customers of my company have Web hosting on providers with low rates such as 12 U.S. $ per month, with discounts per year, 2 years or 5 or 10 years. Some really cheap providers don't give enough bandwidth, but others not so expensive give a reasonable set of features. This's only a sugestion.
 
But, if TT were to go with a more cost-effective service that's main drawback is less bandwidth, then this site won't/may not be the same powerhouse content provider that it is, and that may compromise it's ability to service the growing numbers of members as effectively as it can and has in the past.

To run a completely efficient site, one needs to be able to keep up with the bandwidth demands and have enough in reserve when considering the new members that join everyday.

I think the reality is, for TickleTheater.com to experience the same level of service and reliability it has, or better, it needs to maintain it's current allotted bandwidth as a base minimum. To go with anything less would degrade it's performance, and that is a choice and sacrifice that he has to be willing to make and consider.
 
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