Warning!!! Highly Illegal imposter on MySpace

[jk666uk]

Is how you all had your panties in an uproar over this. In truth the guy isn't any more disgusting than anyone else, AND there's not a damn thing TIB could have done about it. So far as internet scams go this isn't even on the radar AND if any girls responded its none of TIBs or anyones damn business.

Lighten up.

ha banshee iam with you
what the f..k is tib gonna do he only piss of because someone use his site name get over it

 

[Iggy pop]

okay, fine. the "realtickling" thing was horrible. but, the point i am trying to make is, outside of the minors thing, was this site that horrendous?

let's say he used a different name, like "ticklesarefun.com" or something to that effect. would you be just as angry? yes, the use of the "realtickling" name is cause for alarm for you because you have the site and it is an identity issue. i understand your anger. i am not saying you shouldnt be pissed. i would be too. i am trying to point out that this guy used horrible sense of judgment, but i can understand what he was trying to do.

dont get me wrong. there is no way i am condoning this guy for what he did. he illegally misrepresented himself and the whole minors thing is creepy. but, i am reading his responses and i am trying to understand the idea of the whole fiasco. he was trying to find a way to get tickling videos. he didnt ask for nudity. he didnt ask for any sexual things. he didnt ask to meet any of these people in person so HE could tickle them. he just wanted to get his "fix" by looking at tickling videos from real people. he should have gone about it a completely different manner.

There is one more thing he promised to pay money($900) for a sixty second tape. If Chaos is speaking the truth, and he was the owner of the website, then from his posts we can tell he didn't have the money to pay these people and he had no intention of paying. That is not just unethical, it's fraud.

You know after reading this guys post, I feel sorry for him, but he did so many unethical and illegal things.

 

[Banshee]

Explain

It's identity theft. How would you like it if someone did it to you? And if they started trouble and you got the blame, would you still just laugh it off?

There was no Identity Theft. Show me where Identify theft occurred. No one was defrauded. Face is Brian has no case and he knows it. I find it laughable how everyone here just jumps on a bandwagon.

 

[cloudgazer2k]

There was no Identity Theft. Show me where Identify theft occurred. No one was defrauded. Face is Brian has no case and he knows it. I find it laughable how everyone here just jumps on a bandwagon.

ummm...the guy was saying that HE is the main man that runs realtickling.com and had a link to "prove" it. when it comes down to it...that is fraud. on top of that, it could have, whether it did or not, given TIB a bad rep since, according to Chaos, he was the one running realtickling. thus, it would have given TIB and his company the image of being involved with minors and ripping off people by promising money that never came.
fraud is fraud...no matter how you paint it or look at it. whether you think no wrondoing was done or not, it happened. the people involved are dealing with it. crap happens.

 

[method11236]

It is wrong.

But.... it is a great idea.

 

[Capnmad]

There was no Identity Theft. Show me where Identify theft occurred. No one was defrauded. Face is Brian has no case and he knows it. I find it laughable how everyone here just jumps on a bandwagon.

Banshee, you blow my mind. Have you no idea how ruinous this can be to one's reputation? How this constitutes fraud, at the very least? You don't misrepresent yourself as someone else, or mischaracterize their company or person. No one was successfully defrauded, near as we can tell, but I don't really buy the whole "Thank God the conversation with the one girl who responded went nowhere" thing, except as hindsight. Had it gone somewhere, if this guy was willing to go to the trouble to build this site, you should be willing to bet he'd have had no qualms with it until he was caught.

This guy is right to be concerned about how this'll impact his life. Holy crap, I would be! And not being a lawyer, I don't even know what laws this breaches, but it blows right through pretty much every basic rule of honor, ethics and common sense! I imagine somewhere in there one or two laws got pretty badly dinged-up, too.

I don't envy TIB the decision he has to make now -- though he may very well have already made it, in favor of the interests of his company, and who could possibly blame him? This is a sucky situation all around, and someone, one way or another, suffers. And the seeker of justice in me says it's far more proper that the perpetrator suffer than allowing the victim to take it on the chin.

I wish the circumstance would allow for more mercy, but some people make it damned hard.

 

[Texas_Tickle]

I have no doubt the kid is scared. Hell, I'd be scared as well, and I do feel for the situation he is in, but at the same time, I think TIB has a moral obligation to press charges, if not on his behalf, then on behalf of the con-man's (let's be honest, he is a con-artist), would be victims.

Being 19 yrs old is no excuse, and an example needs to be made.

 

[tickler_n_black]

harmless web page?
no big deal?
just a silly mistake on his part?
below is text from a real conversation we are having with one of the girls on his "friends list" when his account was still active (48 hours ago) on myspace. the conversation is shown backwards in time. this conversation started out with us sending a warning message to her about his scam and his identity theft. read it and tell me if you think he's come clean about everything. he said he had one conversation and nothing ever came of it....?




----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: "name removed"
Date: Dec 18 2006 5:34 PM

A video of us tickling. I sent him a 6 minute video.


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Brian
Date: Dec 18 2006 5:48 PM

Send you $4,000 in exchange for what?



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: "name removed"
Date: Dec 18 2006 12:07 PM


I charged Christmas presents to my credit card, because he told me that he would send me 4,000$.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Brian
Date: Dec 17 2006 11:50 PM


We're very serious. He is not the company he said he was. He is just some guy running a scam using the identity of a tickling company. You charged money to your card and did what with the money?

Brian


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: "name removed"
Date: Dec 17 2006 7:06 PM


Are you being serious?
I don't know what to do now.
I charged $1,500 to my credit card thinking I'd get this money, and now what the fuck do I do?!

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Brian
Date: Dec 17 2006 6:50 PM


The person on myspace who goes by the name of "realtickling.com" is a fraud. He has NO AFFILIATION with the actual site realtickling.com. The owners of that site have always been high class people who would never hurt or commit fraud against anyone, nor do we ever deal with anyone who is not 18 or older.

His actual myspace website is: www.myspace.com/safety43

... your supposed "friend" on myspace is about to be charged with criminal offenses.

Please report him to MySpace and delete him from your friends list.

Thank you.
Signed,
The REAL owners of the realtickling site.

 

[tickler_n_black]

So, does everyone now understand HOW serious of a thing this is that this guy did? He's not the victim here.

 

[Darkknight]

Tib,

We do know bro, only idiots would not think this guy was in the wrong.
It's beyond sad and I'm sure he's in this site and reading these comments and if he's young, he should be crapping in his pants.

It's the internet, who really is who they say they are?
As far as I know, I am not me.

DK

 

[SemoreBellys]

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: "name removed"
Date: Dec 17 2006 7:06 PM


Are you being serious?
I don't know what to do now.
I charged $1,500 to my credit card thinking I'd get this money, and now what the fuck do I do?! [/SIZE]

if that is true, a good way to get the money back is to do a REAL video with TIB. He'll make her happy again..🙂

 

[tkrexx]

I don't envy TIB the decision he has to make now -- though he may very well have already made it, in favor of the interests of his company, and who could possibly blame him? This is a sucky situation all around, and someone, one way or another, suffers. And the seeker of justice in me says it's far more proper that the perpetrator suffer than allowing the victim to take it on the chin.

It's not just TIB who's been set up, nor is TIB making a tough decision for himself and his business/honor/pride. TIB NEEDS to see this through for the good of the online TK community as a whole. If we police ourselves, no one else will have to. Swift legal action will prove to the Vanillas that we as Ticklers Do Not wish to be seen in this light. Sorry if that's harsh, but I've seen too many witch hunts already.

 

[venray]

I can assure you that the authorities have been notified and this guy's online activities are indeed being investigated.....

With all of the negative publicity that myspace gets, they do not take things like this lightly...

 

[asutickler]

Identity theft, while serious, is the most minor issue in play here. This gentleman offered money for services rendered, but had no intention to actually pay. That is a textbook definition of fraud. He also offered money for the creation of sexualized fetish videos by underage girls. That is a genuine attempt to traffic in a fetishized version of kiddie porn.

This whole situation is revolting, from a variety of perspectives... Hopefully the proper authorities will locate the responsible party and handle things.

 

[Kalamos]

Identity theft is nasty stuff.
Seen ppl suffering from it, when the net was younger.
It's never to be taken lightly, 'specially when money is involved.

...

Besides, paid a visit to that "gentleman's" site.
Casual observers could be fooled: he took the pain of making it look genuine down to the words.

...

Dunno, just breezed through comments, but I would not call it a "coincidence".
I woud call it a deliberate fake.

 

[Iggy pop]

First of all, Banshee, I have to disagree with you. What I did was wrong, foolish, unethical, fraud, identity theft, whatever else you want to say. TIB has every right to throw the book at me and watch me burn.

He has the right to, and probably the obligation to. I'm simply pleading for any sort of mercy.

As far as that conversation posted above, I still say it went nowhere. I never promised any money to ANYONE, nor was I ever sent any video by ANYONE. I was asked if it was for real, and how much she could make. I replied that it depended on the details, and it never went any further..I certainly didn't receive anything.

I'm sure a lot of you have the image of me being a middle aged man in my parents' basement trying to lure minors into my home, and everything else that was said about me. I can assure you that nothing could be further from the truth. Just a young man making a very stupid mistake.

I'm certainly not the victim here, far from it, but I have been 'scared straight', so to speak, as far as this out of control fetish is concerned. I don't know if anybody has ever "quit" this, or if I'll be the first to do so. But any videos I've purchased or downloaded have been deleted, photos, stories, etc. As soon as this matter is resolved one way or another, I'll leave this forum. And for any interested, I did come out to my fiancee today. After a long, difficult discussion, she's been very forgiving, provided I seek professional help, which I'm in the process of doing. If I've ever been in a 'I hope you've learned your lesson' situation, this is it.

We've all made mistakes, albeit none as serious as mine, I'm sure. But at some point in our lives I'm sure we've all wanted a 'do-over' card. God, I could use one now. That said, nothing I did should be taken lightly, or dismissed as 'nothing serious'. It is. I'm just asking for mercy, and again, hoping that this mistake hasn't ruined my life.

Right now your credibility is not exactly the greatest. You say you did not receive a video tape, but someone else says you did. On the site you were advertising huge money for tapes, so it is kind of hard to believe you. You say we all have made mistakes and that is correct. I know I have had to pay for my mistake, and so should you. And your mistake(s) was pretty fucking big.

You say you are getting professional help. That is a good start. Now there is something else you should do. Get a Lawyer! If you lucky you may get off with some community service, and have to pay some restitution.

 

[The Sean Man]

First of all, Banshee, I have to disagree with you. What I did was wrong, foolish, unethical, fraud, identity theft, whatever else you want to say. TIB has every right to throw the book at me and watch me burn.

He has the right to, and probably the obligation to. I'm simply pleading for any sort of mercy.

As far as that conversation posted above, I still say it went nowhere. I never promised any money to ANYONE, nor was I ever sent any video by ANYONE. I was asked if it was for real, and how much she could make. I replied that it depended on the details, and it never went any further..I certainly didn't receive anything.

I'm sure a lot of you have the image of me being a middle aged man in my parents' basement trying to lure minors into my home, and everything else that was said about me. I can assure you that nothing could be further from the truth. Just a young man making a very stupid mistake.

I'm certainly not the victim here, far from it, but I have been 'scared straight', so to speak, as far as this out of control fetish is concerned. I don't know if anybody has ever "quit" this, or if I'll be the first to do so. But any videos I've purchased or downloaded have been deleted, photos, stories, etc. As soon as this matter is resolved one way or another, I'll leave this forum. And for any interested, I did come out to my fiancee today. After a long, difficult discussion, she's been very forgiving, provided I seek professional help, which I'm in the process of doing. If I've ever been in a 'I hope you've learned your lesson' situation, this is it.

We've all made mistakes, albeit none as serious as mine, I'm sure. But at some point in our lives I'm sure we've all wanted a 'do-over' card. God, I could use one now. That said, nothing I did should be taken lightly, or dismissed as 'nothing serious'. It is. I'm just asking for mercy, and again, hoping that this mistake hasn't ruined my life.

Pardon my french....but you fucked up BIG TIME, bud. And blaming this whole mess on an "out of control fetish"? Plllleeeease!

As I've said before, all it takes is one stupid idiot to catch the eyes of the witch-hunters, and this place is history.

You knew what you were doing....pay the price.

 

[Viviana's VV]

I want to thank TIB for taking action on this. He's standing up, doing the right thing, and helping to protect the entire community from a predator and a fraud. That includes fellow producers and consumers. He could have handled it privately, but by making it public and really cracking down on this guy, he's helping raise awareness of just how serious this problem is. In at least 2 ways, it'll help stop others from doing it. Potential con artists will see there's a pretty good chance they'll get caught, and I believe people who are reading about the problem here will be more likely to report a fraudulent site if they come across one.
So, from another producer, thanks to TIB for seeing this through.

 

[isabeau]

Am i reading this right? Is the fraud actually here posting an apology?? wow what nerve...is this correct? and no fetish is an excuse for doing what you did..shame on you..

 

[ChosenofMystra]

Am i reading this right? Is the fraud actually here posting an apology?? wow what nerve...is this correct? and no fetish is an excuse for doing what you did..shame on you..

Call me cynical, but I don't buy the apology for one second. I think he's just spinning a sad sack "poor me" story for attention.

 

[jk666uk]

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There was no Identity Theft. Show me where Identify theft occurred. No one was defrauded. Face is Brian has no case and he knows it. I find it laughable how everyone here just jumps on a bandwagon.

 

[jk666uk]

harmless web page?
no big deal?
just a silly mistake on his part?
below is text from a real conversation we are having with one of the girls on his "friends list" when his account was still active (48 hours ago) on myspace. the conversation is shown backwards in time. this conversation started out with us sending a warning message to her about his scam and his identity theft. read it and tell me if you think he's come clean about everything. he said he had one conversation and nothing ever came of it....?




----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: "name removed"
Date: Dec 18 2006 5:34 PM

A video of us tickling. I sent him a 6 minute video.


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Brian
Date: Dec 18 2006 5:48 PM

Send you $4,000 in exchange for what?



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: "name removed"
Date: Dec 18 2006 12:07 PM


I charged Christmas presents to my credit card, because he told me that he would send me 4,000$.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Brian
Date: Dec 17 2006 11:50 PM


We're very serious. He is not the company he said he was. He is just some guy running a scam using the identity of a tickling company. You charged money to your card and did what with the money?

Brian


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: "name removed"
Date: Dec 17 2006 7:06 PM


Are you being serious?
I don't know what to do now.
I charged $1,500 to my credit card thinking I'd get this money, and now what the fuck do I do?!

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Brian
Date: Dec 17 2006 6:50 PM


The person on myspace who goes by the name of "realtickling.com" is a fraud. He has NO AFFILIATION with the actual site realtickling.com. The owners of that site have always been high class people who would never hurt or commit fraud against anyone, nor do we ever deal with anyone who is not 18 or older.

His actual myspace website is: www.myspace.com/safety43

... your supposed "friend" on myspace is about to be charged with criminal offenses.

Please report him to MySpace and delete him from your friends list.

Thank you.
Signed,
The REAL owners of the realtickling site.

did she do it tho
did she sent a 6 mins video?
did she charged 4000$ on her credit card?
yeah what ever

 

[tickler_n_black]

did she do it tho
did she sent a 6 mins video?
did she charged 4000$ on her credit card?

Yes she said she did the tickling video.

Yes she said she sent a 6 minute video to him.

Yes she charged $1500 money to her credit card (for xmas presents) thinking that she was going to be paid $4000 that the imposter offered her for a home mande 6 minute video. She thought she could pay off her card with that money and even have extra left over. Ya know what I mean? The imposter that went around telling people he WAS realtickling.com, even linking them to our website to trick them ... yeah that guy.

I thought I'd explain all of this to you since you seem to be a bit confused about what has really happened and how serious of a criminal offense it is.
Thanks.

 

[Capnmad]

It's not just TIB who's been set up, nor is TIB making a tough decision for himself and his business/honor/pride. TIB NEEDS to see this through for the good of the online TK community as a whole. If we police ourselves, no one else will have to. Swift legal action will prove to the Vanillas that we as Ticklers Do Not wish to be seen in this light. Sorry if that's harsh, but I've seen too many witch hunts already.

No, that's okay, man. I always try to bias toward mercy and understanding, that's just me, but I certainly understand the seriousness of the charge. Trust me, no need for lectures there. Neverminding the fraud, no one can afford to have perceptions of their character or business attacked. And certainly no one would support his choice to prosecute the offender more than I. But with respect, it is still a choice and one I wouldn't rob TIB of through some allusion to obligations to the community. He's a grown man, a mature adult, and he knows for himself what his own priorities and obligations are, and I'm not going to try to influence him by saying "We need you to do this." Ya' know I love ya' all, but he and his business were wronged, and he has to decide how he wants to handle it, and I support whatever decision he makes.

Witch hunts certainly can't be fun, but they're a fact of life no matter where you are. When something goes wrong, everyone wants someone to blame, and sooner or later, we all get targeted by somebody. Quick prosecution in this case may stave off one, but there'll doubtless be others, and I remain unconvinced that anything will ever prove anything to anyone unless they have an open mind. Legal action in one case won't prove jack to vanillas. Like I said, it may stop one possible witch hunt, but it doesn't prove anything nor accomplish any grand scheme in how we're perceived outside of here.

Let the man make his decision, is what I'm saying. It's not ours to make.

 

[ViperGTS]

Yes she said she did the tickling video.

Yes she said she sent a 6 minute video to him.

Yes she charged $1500 money to her credit card (for xmas presents) thinking that she was going to be paid $4000 that the imposter offered her for a home mande 6 minute video. She thought she could pay off her card with that money and even have extra left over. Ya know what I mean? The imposter that went around telling people he WAS realtickling.com, even linking them to our website to trick them ... yeah that guy.

I thought I'd explain all of this to you since you seem to be a bit confused about what has really happened and how serious of a criminal offense it is.
Thanks.

In all fairness, have you seen credit card bills or other paperwork proving that she spent the money, or did she just tell you in that MySpace message? Does she have a return reciept from the sending of the video? Did you obtain a copy or other proof of reciept directly from the creator of the site?

Again, not trying to be a dick, but you have to make sure all your bases are covered. No he said she said.

Get this fucker. how dare he.