Where do the 'lees come from in vids?

[TickleMantis]

G'day g'day.

This is really a question for people who make/have made tickling vids. I got to thinking, where do you get the lees from? Are they people you know or do you just go up to some girl and say 'how would you like to be tied and tickled?' do you put ads in the paper?

I'm very curious.

Also do you have to get them to sign an angreement before being tickled so they can't sue you afterwards?

Don't worry I'm not planning on using your lee hunting techniques to suddenly run out a make tickling vids, I'm just wondering.😀

 

[TickleMantis]

And no one say a big white bird drops em down the chimney!😛

 

[DutchTickler]

Model agencies, most likely. That's where I get my foot models, anyway.

 

[TickleMantis]

Bump.

Thanks, what other sources do people use? Or is no one saying anything because their afraid other video producers will use their secrets?🙂

 

[Phineas]

other producers I've spoken to have mentioned using either fetish modelling agencies, websites like One Model Place (www.onemodelplace.com), or posting fliers in places like college campus taverns.

personally, I've basically passed my card around to anyone expressing an interest when I tell them I own a video game company. I've also asked my more liberal friends to participate. I'm also not above approaching attractive strangers and asking them if they've ever considered appearing in a video game. It generally goes from there.

I've had mixed results, but you use what ya got. 🙂

 

[dodger]

From a small mountain top village in Nebraska.

 

[BigJim]

I can answer this one, at least partially. Companies often start out by placing ads in student newspapers and magazines. A large portion of MTPJeff's models while he was based in Boston, were girls looking to pay their way through college. Since he stopped in Las Vegas, there's been a higher percentage of girls who've done adult movie stuff, but I think even then they were looking for college money.

I was once the rather surprised recipient of a typical SPAM e-mail saying "Watch Phoenix s**k c**k like there's no tomorrow!" Nothing unremarkable about that, but the photos attached showed the very same Phoenix who's been in 4 or 5 Magic Touch videos, with...rather a mouthful, shall we say.

Another way that girls are contacted, is when the company has garnered quite a name for itself on the net and elsewhere. When a company has done several videos, girls will contact the companies themselves to ask if they can be in a tickling video. I think (although I'm not sure) that Rachael Smith of TC Videos was one of those cases.

 

[Neutron]

Well..

Outside of Fem Feet they like you to believe these young ladies just show up hoping some old dude or a bald guy will tickle them, however that isn't the case.
Usually they respond to some sort of advertisement and are payed some sort of fee.
I know you can go into most strip clubs and ask if a young lady would like to make some extra money. It's a lot less strange than much of the stuff they are asked.
Also, most colleges have message boards on the net, and I'd imagine bulletin boards at the schools themselves. I used to see advertisements at the colleges. The message boards are usually an excellent source, even for non videos tickling sessions,
Plus there are quite a few ex porn stars in need of a pay check (for instance Ryan Conner, Jackie Lick et al)


Darth Neutron

 

[BigJim]

Or in Phoenix's case, future porn stars. I don't know why, but seeing that made me feel quite weird. Strange eh?


Tron...

Does that mean you've organised tickling sessions with girls from college message boards? What's the trick dude?

 

[Neutron]

Just...

Find the college website, most have some sort of message board

OR post advertisements at the college

OR find the student newspaper and submit something to it.

Believe it or not, I'm somewhat straightforward and bold.

Darth Neutron

 

[Limeoutsider]

If you havent already, you could try http://www.magict.com/faq.shtml

 

[TickleMantis]

Re: Just...

Believe it or not, I'm somewhat straightforward and bold.

Darth Neutron

I believe that. How could you not? 😛 😀

 

[BigJim]

Re: Just...

Find the college website, most have some sort of message board

OR post advertisements at the college

OR find the student newspaper and submit something to it.

Believe it or not, I'm somewhat straightforward and bold.

Darth Neutron

Just out of interest your Darth-ness, *getting note-pad and pen ready* how do you phrase it?

 

[dvnc]

FWIW, 'Tron speaketh true, says I.

Solefully Yours used to advertise in a free paper in the Bay Area in California, back when they were based outta SF. Models showed 'cause the phone conversation made clear that it was "just tickling". Wasn't until Hawaii that they found folk who would get naked to play. Hawaiian residents that would volunteer for such an advertisment apparently are not body-shy.

Two other three other vendors do likewise, though I'll not out where. They'll hit colleges, local papers wit' big want ad sections, etc. Sans nudity, it's easy. Introduce money and, let's face it, folks get motivated.

"What? For tickling me? And MORE if I'm naked? Wow!"

I always wonder if the video'd folk have regrets after such, not knowin' that, within the spectrum of folks viewin' such vids, they're "stars". Not somethin' that's gonna get answered, so it's a curiousity left idle.

 

[Neutron]

Here Is What..

I put in the ad.

Are any ladies interested in a semi erotic, fun and safe experience?
If so please email.... Then my email addy.

dvnc Thanks for your back up. One thing that always annoys me here is when I see guys post. Gee (Insert a name) how do you get to tickle these fantastic looking ladies, and they even let you tape it??

Like they think these guys are some sort of tickling Hugh Hefners. I know the vid producers like to perpetuate the myth that these females are standing in line, but the answer is simple.

THEY PAY THEM!!

Tron

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

Re: Here Is What..

I know the vid producers like to perpetuate the myth that these females are standing in line, but the answer is simple.

THEY PAY THEM!!

Tron

I'm not sure it's them perpetuating that myth, Mike...at least for the majority. Some may, though I haven't seen it myself. Everyone has their own way of doing things and their own comfort level about what they choose to do. I suspect the myth is mainly with folks who can't or won't find anyone picturing it that way out of a sense of envy for the lers in the videos. Understandable to a degree for those who really can't find anyone to play with. (And I include those who are simply too afraid to try in the can't catagory.)

Ann

 

[Neutron]

Ok Ann...

When given the chance to refute the myth, why don't they? Many times I've seen people post in an image thread about how lucky a producer is to have tickled a model, then the poster asks how do you get so lucky? To date I've never seen a producer outside of TIB say, well we place ads then we pay them. To not refute the myth is perpetuating it.


Tron

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

Yes. It may have that effect, Mike. But, if someone tells me something (esp. second-hand), I generally don't take it as fact unless I investigate it myself. I'm not sure how much time producers have/want to spend here looking for false statements about them either. I suspect that some have gotten sick of putting out the same fires over and over. So, that may be one reason that they don't come looking to correct the misperceptions. No real harm done in this case that I can see. We're all adults and have the ability to find these things out for ourselves. It's a non-issue for me.

Ann

 

[Neutron]

It's A Non Issue..

But I do believe in truth in advertising. And TickleMantis had a valid question. I tend to like Mr Mantis so I gave him a valid answer. Personally, yes I believe the producers tend to avoid the "issue" simply because it's nice to perpetuate a myth like that. I'm not blaming them in the least.


Tron

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

Agreed. Just wanted to point out that little fact. Peace, bro!

Ann

 

[dvnc]

Happy t'contribute t'the facts, 'Tron. Only thing them folks do, 'sides droppin dollar down, is get brave enough to actually MEET the people. You'd be AMAZED at the number of folks who just ain't that kind of brave. I've exchanged mails wit' *soldiers*, and *cops*, and found they were too timid where ticklin' was concerned. One of 'em said somethin' I ain't forgotten - "Yeah, but it's easy to pay a stripper. Everyone does it." Somethin' like that.

Everyone don't, though. Some can, some can't. Gotta CHOSE to do, and then move to do it.

Keep in mind them gents like TickleChgo, who I've SEEN just approach someone and ask to tickle 'em, or casual strum a sole in passing. Man's cool as can be 'bout it. Most would NEVER dream of it.

In some defence of the producers of said videos, just placin' the ad, and havin' the dime, don't equal a 'lee to tickle. A 'lee that has no confidence in you won't play for that small of a sum (they ain't gettin' thousands, here). A 'lee that don't trust you won't play,in the same circumstances. It's more than dime, brother, but you won't here me sayin' that DIME ain't needed for such.

Mind ya, I've tickled more people than any of the producers, if we're just talkin' numbers. Tickled some of those beauties that are beyond where I figure I rate, too. Don't have to produce vids to do such.

Do have to get comfortable with your interest, and learn that it ain't so strange. Self-confidence is a biggie. You do well wit' such, 'Tron, sayin' bold stuff here. Some don't, though. Producers can't do their gig without such confidence, hence ANOTHER hafta for the pile. Have to be confident enough to believe you can do such.

Ain't just dollars. Too many rich folk in our community that don't know where and when their next tickle will be. Huh? Oh, yeah, I *do* know some of 'em. Advantage to meetin' folk here, IRL. Changes the parameters of things.

Some producers promote myth. Some don't. SY didn't. Paradise did. Magic Touch doesn't. Last Laugh doesn't. Those, I know, empirically. I figure you're right about some of 'em, though, 'cause I've *known* some that do.

Trivia for the masses,

dvnc

 

[Neutron]

Actually..

I think Magic Touch does, but that's beside the point..

I do agree, money does not mean a tickling session. I've gone both ways. But the odds are, if someone appears in a tickling video, they answered an advertisement or they were paid. There are those here who think Ryan Connor just showed up at MTP and said please tickle me for your website. We know that isn't true. Hell every now and then she dances at Alcatraz, a local titty bar. I bet for the right cash anyone there can get a tickling session if they wanted. Same with Jackie Lick.

My point was, many here think that stuff just happens because the vid producer has these ladies just showing up. Look at some of the posts in the images or clips section. And none of the producers except TIB ever does anything to dispell that myth.

You are right. Boldness is the key, that and making sure the lady knows you're safe and will honor her limits.

Tron

 

[dvnc]

That's where actually KNOWIN' Jeff helps. Y'can't have known, though. Hope it helps ya t'better understand, though. Many of us actually know one another IRL, through gatherings, phone calls, or other socialization.

Still agree, though, that without money involved, there's precious few that would be taped. Nature of the biz. They ain't gettin' paid for only being tickled. They're puttin' their mugs out in the public, attached to video for a deviancy that is largely (by percentage of us here) a sexual deviancy (where the norm is vanilla sexuality). It ain't simple, magic, easy, or always fun. It IS a trip hearin' someone doin' such complain 'bout the difficulties, 'cause one can easily wonder if they know just how many WISH it was *them* sufferin' such. Such is the way wit' some roles in the world. Better them than me, says I. 😉

 

[Neutron]

Oh I Realize..

That actually knowing someone helps. In my dealings with Jeff I've never found him to be the least bit arrogant, however by default he does perpetuate the myth that these ladies just show up and say Jeff please tickle me and video tape it. When someone posts under one of the images he so generously posts (and yes he does post great images here) I've yet to see him say, "Oh yes I payed her" when someone asks why he got the chance to tickle so and so. Therefore he does contribute to the "myth". Again I am not faulting him because most people here don't seem to understand it's a business. But when given the chance he should correct it. This isn't flaming, nor am I taking anyone to task. I think it's a good education for those who want to know where these ladies come from, and why they allow themselves to be tickled on video.


Tron

 

[dvnc]

Ah, it's a perspective difference. Knowin' that Jeff pays, and that he's said such, before, in previous threads, here and on a.m.t back in the day, I forget that not everyone caught such. Since there's stuff, here, now, that I don't catch, regularly, it ain't surprisin'.

It's one o' them "toMAYto, toMAHto" dealies. It's like the old line, when asked how one gets to Carnegie Hall, in New York city. The answer's always "Practice". That it's a business implies such things t'me. I forget that my perspective leaves out the possibility that someone would give such stuff freely for distribution. They'll give freely, and they'll give for distribution, but I ain't seen both together yet.

Don't 'spect I will, either.