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Why Bill Maher is a great American

jts963

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... aka The Right never saw this one coming :lol

New Rule from Bill Maher's Real Time,
Friday January 28th:

New Rule: With the Super Bowl only a week away, Americans must realize what makes NFL football so great: socialism. That's right, for all the F-15 flyovers and flag waving, football is our most successful sport because the NFL takes money from the rich teams and gives it to the poor teams... just like President Obama wants to do with his secret army of ACORN volunteers. Green Bay, Wisconsin has a population of 100,000. Yet this sleepy little town on the banks of the Fuck-if-I-know River has just as much of a chance of making it to the Super Bowl as the New York Jets - who next year need to just shut the hell up and play.

It's no surprise that some 100 million Americans will watch the Super Bowl next week - that's 40 million more than go to church on Christmas - suck on that, Jesus! It's also 85 million more than watched the last game of the World Series, and in that is an economic lesson for America. Because football is built on an economic model of fairness and opportunity, and baseball is built on a model where the rich almost always win and the poor usually have no chance. The World Series is like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. You have to be a rich bitch just to play. The Super Bowl is like Tila Tequila. Anyone can get in.

Or to put it another way, football is more like the Democratic philosophy. Democrats don't want to eliminate capitalism or competition, but they'd like it if some kids didn't have to go to a crummy school in a rotten neighborhood while others get to go to a great school and their Dad gets them into Harvard. Because when that happens "achieving the American dream" is easy for some, and just a fantasy for others.

That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success."

Baseball, on the other hand, is exactly like the Republicans, and I don't just mean it's incredibly boring. I mean their economic theory is every man for himself. The small market Pittsburgh Steelers go to the Super Bowl more than anybody - but the Pittsburgh Pirates? Levi Johnston has sperm that will not grow up and live long enough to see the Pirates in a World Series. Their payroll is about $40 million, and the Yankees is $206 million. They have about as much chance at getting in the playoffs as a poor black teenager from Newark has of becoming the CEO of Halliburton. That's why people stop going to Pirate games in May, because if you're not in the game, you become indifferent to the fate of the game, and maybe even get bitter - that's what's happening to the middle class in America. It's also how Marie Antoinette lost her head.

So, you kind of have to laugh - the same angry white males who hate Obama because he's "redistributing wealth" just love football, a sport that succeeds economically because it does exactly that.
 
I watched this too and for the most part I agree with him on this subject. I enjoy his views on the politics of the day but what I do dislike about him is when he gets on his pulpit and starts preaching his theory about evolution vs creationism, those are personal beliefs and should be kept that way.
 
I watched this too and for the most part I agree with him on this subject. I enjoy his views on the politics of the day but what I do dislike about him is when he gets on his pulpit and starts preaching his theory about evolution vs creationism, those are personal beliefs and should be kept that way.
Sorry but evolution is a fact, not a belief. Refusing to believe in evolution is like refusing to believe the earth is round. Sure you can believe such a fantasy but don't expect any truly educated person to respect that position.

The creationists like to say evolution is just a theory. This is completely wrong. A theory of gravity is not about whether gravity exists, it's about how gravity works. Likewise a theory of evolution is not about whether evolution exists, it's about how evolution works. If you want to know why America is falling behind the rest of the world in education, you can thank in part the creationists for their anti-science crap that is putting us at a major disadvantage. Genesis is not science and it's not history, it's a delusional view of the world.
 
You believe your way and I,ll believe mine, Ok? There will be no negotiating on this, not with me, sorry.
 
jts963, don't bother trying to tell him anything. Your efforts will be wasted. Some people just aren't willing to listen, or learn. They just want to plug their ears and pretend they can't hear you. It's easier than dealing with the fact that humans are relatively unimportant.
 
jts963, don't bother trying to tell him anything. Your efforts will be wasted. Some people just aren't willing to listen, or learn. They just want to plug their ears and pretend they can't hear you. It's easier than dealing with the fact that humans are relatively unimportant.

Course it's easier. It's ironic that I, the laziest person on the planet, strive to take the harder way out in this particular scenario. xD
 
I,m not preaching at any of you, please do me the same courtesy.
 
I,m not preaching at any of you, please do me the same courtesy.

You are the one who brought it up, and now you're just upset because somebody is disagreeing with you. If you have the right to complain about somebody belittling your logically unsound belief system, then we have the right to retort. Freedom of speech works both ways, you would do well to remember that when railing on other people.

However, please feel free to preach to us, if it behooves you to do so. We could use a good chuckle.
 
Does the mere fact that I believe something different to what you believe offend you in such a way that you feel the need to attack me on a personal level? Have at it folks but doesn,t that run contrary to evolution?
 
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I,m not upset in the least. Does the mere fact that I believe something contrary to what you believe offend you in such a way that you feel the need to attack me on a personal level?
Don't feel too special. She attacks everyone who thinks that the Earth was 'created' any less than 4 billion years ago the same way.

I try less to attack, and more to gently push the ideas through their thick skulls.
 
I,m not upset in the least. Does the mere fact that I believe something contrary to what you believe offend you in such a way that you feel the need to attack me on a personal level?

Does the mere fact that your belief contradicts known facts offend you in such a way that you need to throw out comments you're not willing to back when somebody even so much as gently prods you with criticism? 🙂
 
So you hold the answer to the universe. I,m in awe.
 
So you hold the answer to the universe. I,m in awe.

I wouldn't call it holding the answers to the Universe so much as believing in provable idea's rather than fairy tales.

Believing that a proven force of the Universe(gravity) was responsible for the Earth's development is a lot more reasonable than assuming that some man in the sky made everything poof into existence.

It's not my place to say what's right and what's wrong, but I will gladly say what makes more sense to me.
 
If Maher really wants to sell us on socialism or leftwing ideals, he will never compare it, or the Superbowl, to Tila Tequila. That's just disgusting.
 
So you hold the answer to the universe. I,m in awe.

You've no need to make such wild, sarcastic assumptions. I'm merely informing you that if you wish to rail on other people for their beliefs, you can expect it back in kind.

If Maher really wants to sell us on socialism or leftwing ideals, he will never compare it, or the Superbowl, to Tila Tequila. That's just disgusting.

The fallacy in your logic is comparing "leftwing ideals" to socialism. Try again.
 
I'm not saying socialism is the leftwing ideal, I'm saying that Maher is pushing either leftwing ideal or socialism (I only skimmed), but he's trying to promote that as a good thing by comparing it to Tila Tequila... massive analogy failure.
 
You're forgetting that, like the whole of FOX news, Bill Maher is a comedian. He knows that he isn't going to "sell" anybody on any idea.
 
And comparing me to FOX News is also a bit of a fail. I know Maher's a comedian, but I don't find him all that funny. But he's also trying to make a point. Maher has a tendency to be a bit of an idealogue, and I think he himself forgets he's a comedian, and often takes himself too seriously.
 
When did I compare you to FOX news? Regardless, I find FOX news to be ultimately more comedic than Bill Maher, because everything they say is ridiculous.
 
Maybe I misread you. I thought you said that I, like FOX, forgot Bill was a comedian. Either way, he was comparing socialism or leftwing ideal to superbowl, and then superbowl to Tila Tequila. To him, Soc/LW ideal is desirable, and most would agree that Superbowl is desirable, too. The joke fails because he compares it to Tila Tequila, that washed up ***** whose 15 mins of fame are long over, and is as desirable as a hernia. That ruins the analogy and the joke.
 
No accounting for taste, but she ends up redistributing the wealth of others into her pocket no less.
 
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