WTF indeed.
You got an opinion here or what? I mean, you've posted twice, but I can't tell.
WTF indeed.
No one's gonna buy a clip if the 'lee's got a fucking Strawberry Shortcake mask on
Rather than complain about the mask, why dont you start up your own tickling videos and make sure your unmasked face is in the forefront.
How many times has this stupid topic been brought up?
You had to expect there'd be criticism upon entering on such a venture, no?
I always thought producers took a a ridiculous amount of shit even before I got into the business. I'm no less vocal about it now than I was then. The only difference is that I now have sales figures to back up my assertions.
And anyway, there's a difference between criticism and the near-constant stream of bitching about every little thing that goes on around here.
This thread is a perfect example. We hide our faces, we get complaints. We don't hide our faces, we get complaints. We talk, we get complaints. We don't talk, we get complaints. We appear in the videos at all, we get complaints. We shell out the extra money so that we don't appear in the video... and everybody pirates it off of Dailymotion and tells us we should be thankful for the free advertising.
And speaking of criticism, Annie... everything I've bought that was "edited by AnnieHall" had some really blatant typos in it. Just sayin'.
I don't know why you're taking it personal or getting so personal.
Apologies if you felt anything you've bought from MTJ was less than satisfactory, though.
I'm not, actually. My point was that nobody's perfect and/or above criticism, it's interesting that we don't see any threads on it given that the fiction and art is actually more expensive than clips even though it costs less to produce, and also that I think you'd be pretty sick of it if we did actually start seeing threads on it as frequently as we do with clips. I mean, I snarked about it and you got defensive. Point proven, I think.
And I apologize for using you specifically as an example. You're the only other content producer posting in this thread.
DAMMIT, FOR TEN DOLLARS I EXPECT PERFECTION! I NEED TO START A THREAD ABOUT IT!*
In all seriousness, what I do actually do when I catch a mistake is shrug my shoulders and remind myself that I enjoyed reading the story anyway. I don't come here and bitch about how MTJ can't hire a decent editor. (Especially since you probably don't get paid.) If, however, I discover that a particular author consistently produces stuff I don't like, I simply stop buying it. I don't come here and complain as loudly as possible about how the tickling authors are all idiots who who can't write and don't cater to me specifically.
What I think is interesting about the "If they don't like it, they don't gotta buy it" argument (despite it being exactly what I just said) is that the proportion of feedback to actual consumption is pretty low. In other words, most of the people who complain don't actually buy any clips. That strikes me as kinda ridiculous. Granted, it's logical in that they don't buy what they don't like, but they're getting the content somehow, or they wouldn't know what to complain about; so they're either pirating it (and bitching about something they're not paying for anyway), or consuming the free previews (and complaining about clips they aren't watching). I personally feel that if you aren't giving me your money, you don't have any right to give me your "feedback", either, because I'm not making my clips for you.
And anyway, masks? Yeah, we're all doing it because we're either incompetent or because it's what the customer wants. Unfortunately, please one customer and you piss off another. Can't win for losing.
*Sarcasm.
But nobody's demanding perfection from a clip. At least not that I've noticed in this thread.
Again, this is about clips with masks, not clips in general, or comics. You keep bringing up your frustration with criticism of clips on a whole, but we're talking about masks here.
I imagine people don't use hot male 'lers because not a lot of female 'lees buy clips. I mean, I've seen hot female 'lers and hot male 'lees, as well as two hot dudes doing some m/m (too bad I'm only into m/f, but it's not the end of the world) so I'm sure someone can afford it.
There's a certain amount of difficulty in anything. Doesn't mean people can't express their opinion on the subject. If you get too butthurt about it, do something else, or don't click on threads you know is gonna get your rubber nose out of joint.
Most people would respond with something like "Hey, different strokes for different folks. I feel my product is good because of this..." (if you felt the need to defend said product).
which no one is giving you, rather we are talking about the general use of masks in clips)
Many of the characters in Ozzy's work have accents and thus the word "Tickle" is often spelled by said characters as "teekle" to reflect those accents.
Except now I know they wear masks, so I won't be buying. Thanks 🙂
Why don't more companies hire hot-ass guys who will show their face the way the girl 'lee does? Is it just a money issue?
I'm just curious because sometimes I look at m/m videos (I'm down to watch gay guys if they're hot) and it seems like they more often have super-hot 'lers than in straight videos.
I'm certainly not criticizing anyone. I think anyone who creates art within the world of sex and fetishes is pretty cool. I'd never have the guts to do something like that.
Missed this post earlier. Totally agree though. I mean, why can't they hire one of those hot m/m dudes to be the 'ler in a m/f video?
Although personally I feel that my contribution to this thread is done with, I just skimmed back over the earlier post I made where the whole editing sidetrack came in and realized that although my original intent was to comment on how even stuff that's looked over by a second set of eyes can still wind up "off" to a customer, I did in fact call Annie out by name. That was not my intention at all and I really, really apologize for how that came off, as well as acting like I didn't even do it in my followup posts. I fucked up a solid. Seriously.
I can't speak for any of the larger studios, but there's a couple issues at play for us smaller folks (hi!). I'm pretty sure that f/f sells more than m/f, so I'd wager that most of us that do m/f do it out of necessity in that we can't afford to hire a second female model. In that case, there's really no point in hiring a dude who's going to do absolutely nothing to pull in extra sales, costs as much as a woman, and may in fact scare off existing customers.
It's not that we wouldn't be able to find guys to do the videos, it's that it doesn't pay off for us at all.
Hmmm an interesting question and I think I saw this in a topic a year ago. I know there are a few average lookin producers that just don't show their face ala Turtleboy and Zentickling...but mostly yea its either a bigger dude or someone with a mask on. Totally not knockin anyone Darke is a fuckin genius and Tommy is an older dude. I suppose it depends on the degree of attractiveness youre lookin for. Are you lookin for some greased up dude with abs?? Or just an average looking attractive guy? Because from what Ive seen in videos whenever they try to bring in a male "model" to be a tickler, he is usually just god awful. awful technique and making awkwards comments that ruin the experience for me. This happened in a few Paradise Vision videos I saw. The guy was just fucking annoying. Making tickly noises and just raking his hands across the girl.
Like I said, I'm pretty forgiving. (Personally, I find really defined abs freakish looking.) But yeah, don't want a potbelly either. At least not if it's all shaking like Santa Claus all everywhere and shit. Again, though, a lot of it relies on chemistry as well. Meh, I'm in the minority when it comes to clips and I understand producers need to appeal to a wider audience than just my ass. lol