Why does everyone seem to hate guys?

[ObservingEgo]

you're responding and provoking him now!!

You better watch out, Babyshambles... Mz. Independent got her master's degree in victimology from the University of Phoenix online.

 

[kis123]

you're responding and provoking him now!!

You better watch out, Babyshambles... Mz. Independent got her master's degree in victimology from the University of Phoenix online.

No, actually I'm getting my Masters of Business Administration from Myers University, but thanks for your concern!

The only one who's egging him on is you, but of course you already know that don't you.

In my world sometimes when you start crap, you get it back. Don't start none and there won't be none!!

I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T do you know what I mean yeah????

 

[Babyshambles]

No, actually I'm getting my Masters of Business Administration from Myers University, but thanks for your concern!

The only one who's egging him on is you, but of course you already know that don't you.

In my world sometimes when you start crap, you get it back. Don't start none and there won't be none!!

I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T do you know what I mean yeah????

You go girl! [waves finger from side to side]

I aint ever lettin' no man get the better of me!!! Yeeeeahhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Come here men - let me crush you in my powerful feminine thighs.

 

[kis123]

You go girl! [waves finger from side to side]

I aint ever lettin' no man get the better of me!!! Yeeeeahhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Come here men - let me crush you in my powerful feminine thighs.

How did you know I had powerful feminine thighs??

 

[ObservingEgo]

he probably saw a post from the friendly neighborhood neutered Alchemy

 

[Babyshambles]

How did you know I had powerful feminine thighs??

Because I lived with somebody exactly like you in London last year. We got on very well, until I crossed her. I was moving out of the house on 15th of the month. My rent was due on 13th of the month. I had paid to stay until 18th of the month.

She wanted me to pay my rent on 13th of month and said she would pay me back. Well there was no way I was going to do this. I argued that she had a months rent as deposit which she would've owed me back anyway. That was deposit enough.

In the end, come the 13th I didn't pay and she illegally kicked me out, leaving all my possessions on the side of the street. Even though she had no legal authority to do this and I had paid to stay in the house for another 5 days and she had my deposit of one months rent.

In retrospect I would have lost more money had I paid my rent on the 13th. But she was an independent 30-something black woman who was fiercly proud and aggressive. If she even sniffed that someone was disrespecting her, woe betide that person!!

She had been taken to court three times by former tennants, but it seems The Mendez - as she was known, was an adept fighter and could not be beaten. I didn't even bother taking her to court and she still has my one month's rent deposit.

An interesting experience.

 

[kis123]

he probably saw a post from the friendly neighborhood neutered Alchemy

I never told Alchemy I had powerful thighs!!

But he has seen them and I've seen him. I don't have to defend him to you at all, and won't waste the time to. Besides, he has you on ignore so he has no idea what you say about him. Might have something to do with the fact he has better things to do with his life than listen to you.

Oh, you guys are so much fun to play with. But alas, I must go to work and have to put this fun on hold for a future time. Do have yourselves a realy nice day and back away from the computer for awhile.....the fresh air will do you both good!

 

[kis123]

Because I lived with somebody exactly like you in London last year. We got on very well, until I crossed her. I was moving out of the house on 15th of the month. My rent was due on 13th of the month. I had paid to stay until 18th of the month.

She wanted me to pay my rent on 13th of month and said she would pay me back. Well there was no way I was going to do this. I argued that she had a months rent as deposit which she would've owed me back anyway. That was deposit enough.

In the end, come the 13th I didn't pay and she illegally kicked me out, leaving all my possessions on the side of the street. Even though she had no legal authority to do this and I had paid to stay in the house for another 5 days and she had my deposit of one months rent.

In retrospect I would have lost more money had I paid my rent on the 13th. But she was an independent 30-something black woman who was fiercly proud and aggressive. If she even sniffed that someone was disrespecting her, woe betide that person!!

She had been taken to court three times by former tennants, but it seems The Mendez - as she was known, was an adept fighter and could not be beaten. I didn't even bother taking her to court and she still has my one month's rent deposit.

An interesting experience.

And therein lies your problem!

One woman offends you, so they all do right? That's pretty silly even for you! Now who's playing the victim now? Not every strong independent woman is evil; you guys should appreciate that a woman would desire independence instead of requiring her needs be met by you. I simply just don't get the way you gentlemen think sometimes.

I owe!! I owe!! It's off to work I go!

 

[Red_Feather]

I don't get any 'hate' from people here because of my sex.

 

[His Divine Shadow]

Whether such hatred exists or not I cannot say. I would imagine the deluge of PMs out female membership received from overly horney and desperate males doesn't help the situation. 😀

 

[vsa7a]

all guys are pervs eh?

thats bullshit. i for one am not a perv no matter if this is supposively some fetish forum. WRONG it is a media forum. you cant just go by wrongful judgment that oh yeah people come here for porn and shit. i come here because i like tickling not as a fetish but as a social act in human relations and this is the most and perhaps only prominent place for such. im not interested in the porno bullshit lying around and i ignore them. unlike the rest most of you guys, i show self-control and dont act like an animal or some other jackass.

 

[Abel]

Forgive me if i don´t go through all 3 pages of this thread. So if anything i say has already been said i´d prefer being ignored instead of being flamed ^.^


Well then: Hatred usually comes with a reason. Now which reason could that be? Well for a start: how would you feel if a whole bunch of people keep sending you pms for the simple fact that your gender is not like theirs? Sure a polite pm that gives the intention of simply getting to know the person via pm or chat or something might not be that much of a problem. Several pm with that intention (should that actually occur) might still be nice but bothersome. Then i´d guess we also have a bunch of rather impatient personailities and being considered nothing more but a sex-object or a toy to play with is not something i´d put on my list of things that make me like a person a lot. Under these circumstances i can very much understand the females which feel "slightly" irritated by males.

Another possibility might be if the female is a lesbian (did i type this right?). In that case they are into females and the logical consequence is that they have no interest in males. So constantly being "asked out" by males would sooner or later result in them being rather annoyed.


Now the third possibility is just plain simple paranoia. "a few seem to dislike me and i do not understand why...so they MUST hate me for no reason...and i bet all the others hate me too." I do hope i don´t have to clearly state my optinion on this one...

 

[tickleboynyc]

what is it with guys thinking women hate men? women don't hate men! women hate JERKS. and unfortunately sometimes one bad experience with a jerk is enough to turn them off men-but usually only temporarily.
i mean-we're wired to be attracted to each other. what makes you think it's any different for women?

sometimes we men think of women as sex objects and OF COURSE that's a turn off.
personally i love having female friends that i'm NOT sexually involved with. it does a lot to get rid of that sexual tension we can often feel especially towards attractive women. you might even find that...women are people too! shocking, isn't it? but true!

and women don't HATE men. get over yourself.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

For what it's worth, I don't feel the persecution you describe. I know a lot of guys get discouraged when they can't seem to make a connection happen. Give it time. Talk to the ladies and try to find out what interests them, and not just about tickling. They are worth getting to know.

This is the best advice you're gonna get I think. I, for one, love men. I love to talk and flirt and when the conversation naturally goes toward the topic of tickling I love to talk about it. But when a guy sends me a PM or messages me on yahoo and asks me where I'm ticklish, or doesn't bother spending any time getting to know me as a person..I ignore them. Nothing aggravates me more. I'm not looking for a love connection or deep conversations about the meaning of life, but I would like to chit chat for a little bit and know who I'm talking to. So yeah, drew put it perfectly.

 

[Lea28]

I like men...

...You mention women hate men with tickle/feet fetishes......If you are talking about the women here......I'm not sure I've seen the evidence of the majority of women here saying that. If you mean other women, I agree with Drew....maybe you aren't subtly introducing your foot fetish.

Sorry, I like guys... just be sensual, cute, and warm... and tickle me to tears!


Lea

 

[kis123]

what is it with guys thinking women hate men? women don't hate men! women hate JERKS. and unfortunately sometimes one bad experience with a jerk is enough to turn them off men-but usually only temporarily.
i mean-we're wired to be attracted to each other. what makes you think it's any different for women?

sometimes we men think of women as sex objects and OF COURSE that's a turn off.
personally i love having female friends that i'm NOT sexually involved with. it does a lot to get rid of that sexual tension we can often feel especially towards attractive women. you might even find that...women are people too! shocking, isn't it? but true!

and women don't HATE men. get over yourself.

Women don't hate men; they have the a-hole types who salivate and just act like dogs over the internet.

I was convinced to go to my very first (and only to this point) gathering through a Soutwestern gentleman who had a conference in my city. We wen't out for dinner, conversation, and eventually a few consentual tickles at the local marina. He always gagued our activity based on what what comfortable for me; he put me first. We had many PM's, emails, and phone calls prior to our first meet. He was what I best describe as persistent but not pushy; he knew he had a newbie on his hands and was very patient.

So when he invited me to the gathering, he took no excuses, but was very patient with me. I shook like a leaf when I made the travel arrangements to go almost 2000 miles away alone to somewhere I've never been and do something I never thought I'd do. When I got there, I was his personal project; I stuck to him like glue until I could loosen up a bit. By the end of the gathering, I'd gotten to ler, but someone there tapped into my curiosity. Mind you, it took three days of being together and hanging out for me to decide what I wanted to do. When I decided to be the lee for these gentlemen, it was a whirlwind of sensations I never felt before! My emotions were all over the place and the only thing they were interested in was if I was enjoying the experience. Think of it this way; I was in a hotel room with two men I knew for a few days touching and controlling my body in ways it never had before. I was scared to death, but it was thrilling and invigorating at the same time.

Fellas, be patient and be a gentleman; you'll get those tickle dates and relationships in due season. Don't be impatient and start the desparate perv thing because it turns women off! Women are interested but they have to know that they're more than tickle toys to you. Get into her head first before you start the tickle talk. We all are here because we have some level of passion for tickling--that's a given. What you do with it from there will determine where you'll go with whom.

Hope this helps.

 

[barefeetarebest]

Yea! And girls with a shoe collection that think foot/shoe guys are weird....



we all know where I'm going with that!

Yah, What you said!

 

[vsa7a]

how bout this...

men i think you need to worry about your woman rather than your wood.

 

[Babyshambles]

All people will adopt whatever tactic they believe will lead to them achieving as much as possible fo as little as possible. Simple as. End of. It will mostly be subconscious. You wont even realise that you have a tactic. You may be nice, nasty, fair, unfair, tolerant, intolerant.

It has a lot to do with genetics and environment and past experiences and learned behaviour.

Do women hate men? I don't think so.

I find it interesting that all of these people are referring to treating women as special creatures, with respect, niceness, etc., etc., etc.,

Well, I treat all women with respect. But why do I do it?

I'm conscious of doing it more with attractive ladies than unattractive ones.

When PMing a girl on this forum ask yourself a question - would you say that to a male friend or a man on this forum. If yes - go ahead. If not, think twice about your motives for sending the message. You're lying to yourself if you believe it is not slightly sexual (in most circumstances I can think of)

 

[darvon96]

Why would you assume that everyone here hates gays?

Why would you assume that everyone here hates gays?

I believe most people here are extraordinarily tolerant and understanding of an individual’s sexual orientation given the nature of this forum. I’m sure there have been examples where it may have not seemed so, but for the most part I believe everyone here realizes that even though we share the same passion for tickling, that passion is expressed in an infinite number of ways because, after all, we are all unique.

I think that …... what …... it’s not what …... it’s not gays, its guys … oh sorry about that.

Nevermind.

 

[LindyHopper]

Well, I treat all women with respect. But why do I do it?

I'm conscious of doing it more with attractive ladies than unattractive ones.

Well sheesh, there's your problem (well, aside from your mistaken impression that you treat all women with respect). 🙄 How do you make judgments of attractiveness on an online forum? By member pictures? Sig pics? Your imagination? 😕

Tickles already explained to you on another thread that some (many?) women on the TMF choose not to portray themselves as sex objects, and that this prevents most TMF men from showering us with attention. Which is just the way we like it. It keeps our PM boxes free of annoying messages from shallow men who only care about a pretty face and a hot body. It doesn't mean we aren't attractive - we just prefer to draw the attention of men who care about more than how we look.

 

[Babbles]

Though there are many excellent replies earlier in the thread...

Excuse my rambling --I'm amazed at kis' restraint & positive outlook once again -- I agree more time off the computer would be invaluable so certain other parties can both find (and be) better company in reality.
I benefit from this myself, anyone would.

I had become disgusted in both reality and (virtuality here) with the insensitive male primates who have absolutely no regard for anyone else's preferences or well being ----
But that's only maybe half, I don't really know.
But more than enough to make me wary.

Too many scumbags will just go on defending -- and sometimes inflicting -- non-consensual agony though I don't doubt they'd be selling their mother to escape the same fate if it befell them.
I dated a couple of these throwbacks, however briefly, and found more here online...

THAT'S the sort of male (or female) I can't stand, those who just blow the Golden Rule.

However, while I'm disgusted with the selfish, insensitive schmucks one will find ANYWHERE, 🙄

I've also been very pleasantly surprised, or simply happy, to meet very many really decent, kind, thoughtful gentlemen/people here, in person or online
(though I couldn't keep up contact with most of them, I'm offline a lot & try to be more)

---who not only share the same mild? perversion I/we were born with,
but would never inflict it upon anyone who's not willing to hear about or bear it.

I.e. if you're considerate rather than insulting, you'll get far better results.

The fact you're aware you respond better to more attractive women is at least good in that
you're honest with yourself and can work on improving (or dissolving) that tendency.
Most of us are guilty of that without realizing it.

If you're dealing with idiots
(and I'm sorry about your criminally fraudulent landlady, btw, in spite of the abuse you dished out earlier in this thread -
it's a real pity you couldn't sue her into not repeating that cruelty...),

----it's usually best to ignore the jackasses and spend your valuable time with the good folks.
Either gender.
--And the more positive you are, the more positive people you will attract,
or the more people might be influenced to behave better by witnessing a good example, maybe, and so the cycle goes...

Obviously we really can't lump everyone in one gender (or race or age, etc.) together in one category.

 

[Soulfly]

Insecurity.

 

[steph]

We don't hate guys. I worship the amazing men in my life. What we hate is stupid/disrespectful guys. Boneheads need not apply.
XOXO

 

[SlaverTickler]

We don't hate guys. I worship the amazing men in my life. What we hate is stupid/disrespectful guys. Boneheads need not apply.
XOXO

Wow... you must be very conflicted when it comes to me lol.