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Why stay?

It's always greener on the other side... I think we can look at this without it being about who has it easier or not. I think everyone has their difficulties.

I think both things are true. Everyone has difficulties but some also have it easier than others at the same time. If we took a poll of how many sessions and how many friendships and relationships we've all had on TMF, we would not all have the same number.
 
It's certainly an advantage when it comes to finding someone to play with. Are you suggesting that if we put 60 women and 40 men in a room as part of a tickle meet up, that the men wouldn't have a harder time finding someone to play with??!!
Nah, I don't see it as competition. It's because people only have so much time.
You think I haven't talked to women about this privately or on FetLife over the last 10 years? You know what's worse than an inbox full of men who want to play with you? An empty inbox.
It's only worse if you think every guy in that inbox is a great fellow.
You could also try looking outside of that inbox, where the odds are a lot better of finding someone.
Do you really think every woman who gets aroused by being tickled is on the TMF, or FetLife?
 
It's only worse if you think every guy in that inbox is a great fellow.
You could also try looking outside of that inbox, where the odds are a lot better of finding someone.
Do you really think every woman who gets aroused by being tickled is on the TMF, or FetLife?

I don't think all are great fellows. I've seen the "Wall of Shame" thread and heard from plenty of women over the years in private.

It's still math though.
If you get 50 new PMs, some are likely to be nice guys who are cool.
If you get 0 new PMs, you don't have a chance.

I've spent my whole life looking outside TMF and Fetlife and I've found plenty of play. It's not as satisfying as the play I've had with women who do have a tickle fetish though. That was the whole point. Remember, Chicago's original question was "Why Stay [in an unsatisfying relationship]?"
 
I don't think all are great fellows. I've seen the "Wall of Shame" thread and heard from plenty of women over the years in private.

It's still math though.
If you get 50 new PMs, some are likely to be nice guys who are cool.
If you get 0 new PMs, you don't have a chance.
I've spent my whole life looking outside TMF and Fetlife and I've found plenty of play. It's not as satisfying as the play I've had with women who do have a tickle fetish though. That was the whole point. Remember, Chicago's original question was "Why Stay [in an unsatisfying relationship]?"

But do both people have to have the same fetish, with exactly the same intensity, in order for it to be satisfying?
 
I personally wouldn't need the same intensity, no.

What I do crave and need is for her to WANT TO tickle me. I can't explain why but this is something I cannot control. I just need it. Her doing it because I asked isn't as fun. Ditto for if I'm tickling her. There's also the lower frequency and duration (once a month for 5 min isn't enough for me) and the fact that a vanilla can never 100% get it the way we do. 🙁
 
Again, "easier" is hard to define cuz the idea of what it means here is different to everyone. Also i dont think everyone with a tickle fetish is a member of a kink site.

I could be totally off base, but its my opinion that men are more likely to realize and accept that they have a fetish and also more likely to indulge it even if that is just online, than women. Again, i could be completely wrong, thats just what ive gathered in my experience.

Its more than numbers and what goes on in this little corner of the internet of ours.
 
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I personally wouldn't need the same intensity, no.

What I do crave and need is for her to WANT TO tickle me. I can't explain why but this is something I cannot control. I just need it. Her doing it because I asked isn't as fun. Ditto for if I'm tickling her. There's also the lower frequency and duration (once a month for 5 min isn't enough for me) and the fact that a vanilla can never 100% get it the way we do. 🙁

So, you want what you want without having to ask for what you want, and you want her to want it the way you want it.
The only way to guarantee that is to keep dating yourself.

chicago said:
I could be totally off base here, but its my opinion that men are more likely to realize and accept that they have a fetish and also more likely to indulge it even if that is just online, than women. Again, i could be completely wrong, thats just what ive gathered in my experience.{

This is pretty much the issue. In my experience, women are more fluid and adaptable about their own sexual interests, and while they definitely have fetishes, they're not as hard-wired about it as men. Just in my experience.
 
Again, "easier" is hard to define cuz the idea of what it means here is different. Also i dont think everyone with a tickle fetish is a member here.

I could be totally off base here, but its my opinion that men are more likely to realize and accept that they have a fetish and also more likely to indulge it even if that is just online, than women. Again, i could be completely wrong, thats just what ive gathered in my experience.

Its more than numbers and what goes on in this little corner of the internet of ours.

Interesting point. I can see that being true. And in my experience, if it involves sex, men are typically more open to trying it. So perhaps these women don't need to come online because they can "convert" vanilla men to get what they need? Just a thought.


So, you want what you want without having to ask for what you want, and you want her to want it the way you want it.
The only way to guarantee that is to keep dating yourself.

Whoah! LOL. I didn't say anything even remotely like that. Like not even close dude.
 
That could be one reason, for sure, or maybe theyre too ashamed to admit it, even to themselves. Some may have been raised to believe certain things about the genders such as "nice girls" cannot be very sexual beings in the way that men can. I dont want to open that can of worms, just saying there could be many different reasons. Hell, maybe theyve found a good dungeon to spend their money on and thats whats best for them.
 
Whoah! LOL. I didn't say anything even remotely like that. Like not even close dude.

Actually, it is. Look closely.
Anyways, I'm not gonna try to tell you about how women are when there's a real, live woman in the thread.
 
Actually, it is. Look closely.
Anyways, I'm not gonna try to tell you about how women are when there's a real, live woman in the thread.

I said "What I do crave and need is for her to WANT TO tickle me" and then said "Her doing it because I asked isn't as fun.". So I tell her I like tickling and to just do it without me asking. Constantly saying "hey can you tickle me? hey how about tying me up and tickling me?" isn't as hot as her simply taking initiative and doing it. Instead of being a dick you could've, ya know, just asked me to clarify.

And I haven't a clue what you're on about with your 2nd sentence there.
 
That could be one reason, for sure, or maybe theyre too ashamed to admit it, even to themselves. Some may have been raised to believe certain things about the genders such as "nice girls" cannot be very sexual beings in the way that men can. I dont want to open that can of worms, just saying there could be many different reasons. Hell, maybe theyve found a good dungeon to spend their money on and thats whats best for them.

Indeed. Here's to hoping the sex negativity in our society keeps diminishing and that everyone is freer to just be themselves in the future vanilla or otherwise.
 
I said "What I do crave and need is for her to WANT TO tickle me" and then said "Her doing it because I asked isn't as fun.". So I tell her I like tickling and to just do it without me asking. Constantly saying "hey can you tickle me? hey how about tying me up and tickling me?" isn't as hot as her simply taking initiative and doing it. Instead of being a dick you could've, ya know, just asked me to clarify.

And I haven't a clue what you're on about with your 2nd sentence there.

I didn't need you to clarify it. You've said it enough times that dead people know what you want, what you NEED, what you CRAVE...yadda yadda yadda.

As for the 2nd sentence, I was trying to be polite, as referring to people in the 3rd person when they're "present" is rude.
That, I can't explain to you.
 
Over the years Ive been here, Ive read so many stories of folk who feel stuck in a dissatisfying relationship because their s/o doesnt share the kink or worse, they are judgmental of it.

For those who this may apply, what drew you to your spouse and what makes you stay?

I didn't think I could do better. I had a really difficult time finding a woman that loved me. I figured I needed to not fulfill my fetishes so I could find happiness in the rest of my life.

Then when someone else came who was eager and willing to fulfill my fetishes and even love me, I was too comfortable and too chickenshit to leave.
 
Wow, I never realized I'd be opening a can of worms with a simple statement that was taken waaaaay out of the intended point. My only point I was trying to make was that a "pretty you girl" is going to have more "options" than an old fart! Nothing more! Not trivializing anything you may have gone through or overcome.
Now let's see if this comment opens another can!
 
Wow, I never realized I'd be opening a can of worms with a simple statement that was taken waaaaay out of the intended point. My only point I was trying to make was that a "pretty you girl" is going to have more "options" than an old fart! Nothing more! Not trivializing anything you may have gone through or overcome.
Now let's see if this comment opens another can!

I don't think so. I think we're back on track.
The last comment before yours was someone taking responsibility for their own unfortunate situation, rather than whining about how much easier they think it is for some people.
So, it's cool.
 
Wow, I never realized I'd be opening a can of worms with a simple statement that was taken waaaaay out of the intended point. My only point I was trying to make was that a "pretty you girl" is going to have more "options" than an old fart! Nothing more! Not trivializing anything you may have gone through or overcome.
Now let's see if this comment opens another can!

How dare you simply point out something like that!

Clearly being a young woman doesn't give you more options than being an old man. If you look at millions of porn searches done by men on PornHub, they search for 50yo women EXACTLY AS MUCH as 18yo women because age doesn't matter. Also men and women with a tickle fetish have the EXACT SAME odds of finding play because the number of men with a tickle fetish are EXACTLY equal to the number of women.

Next time, if you dare to simply point out that there might be any differences whatsoever, I will get offended and whine about it endlessly while hilariously labeling YOU as the one that's whining!
 
How dare you simply point out something like that!
Clearly being a young woman doesn't give you more options than being an old man. If you look at millions of porn searches done by men on PornHub, they search for 50yo women EXACTLY AS MUCH as 18yo women because age doesn't matter. Also men and women with a tickle fetish have the EXACT SAME odds of finding play because the number of men with a tickle fetish are EXACTLY equal to the number of women.
Next time, if you dare to simply point out that there might be any differences whatsoever, I will get offended and whine about it endlessly while hilariously labeling YOU as the one that's whining!

Well, the on-topic discussion (sans whining) was good while it lasted....

Hint: Resenting the things you desire just because it's not reciprocated isn't exactly a winning strategy.
I mean, how's it workin' for you so far?

P.S. If you think your own (doubtlessly exhaustive) research on porn consumption is any kind of indicator of real life, I have some really shocking news for you about that cute waitress at Hooters who'd totally date you if it wasn't against corporate policy.
 
Well, the on-topic discussion (sans whining) was good while it lasted....

Hint: Resenting the things you desire just because it's not reciprocated isn't exactly a winning strategy.
I mean, how's it workin' for you so far?

The only one whining is you. If the facts RobMic and I brought up offend you but too bad. We were just calmly pointing something out. You need to chill out dude. The topic of this thread is "Why Stay?". The less fortunate are trying to communicate our reasons and you're telling us we're whining and you're derailing the whole thread. Why are you even here?

I can't even hazard a guess as to what you mean by "resent". I don't "resent" anyone or anything. I'm just stating why I choose to stay in unsatisfying relationships. You can keep attacking me and others but you just sound like a bully picking on those who are less fortunate.
 
In my opinion, a partner who doesn't have the fetish but indulges you - even occasionally - should be treated as if they've given you a gift. When B tickles another girl (or just talks to me about doing it) I try to do something nice for her in return. Showing appreciation in whatever manner I think makes people more easily put up with us crazies...

This describes my entire tickling experience in college. I had somehow become friends with 3-4 girls and had some kind of "tickles for massage" trade thing goin on.(This wasn't all going on at the same time I'm not some crazy man pimp) Not creepy or robotic in the sense of an arrangement per se, but that's what was ultimately happening for me throughout the years and I couldn't complain.
 
The only one whining is you. If the facts RobMic and I brought up offend you but too bad. We were just calmly pointing something out. You need to chill out dude. The topic of this thread is "Why Stay?". The less fortunate are trying to communicate our reasons and you're telling us we're whining and derailing the whole thread. Why are you even here?

I can't even hazard a guess as to what you mean by "resent". I don't "resent" anyone or anything. I'm just stating why I choose to stay in unsatisfying relationships. You can keep attacking me and others but you just sound like a bully picking on those who are less fortunate.

Pointing out that your logic and rationalizations are flawed is not bullying.
Grow up.
 
This describes my entire tickling experience in college. I had somehow become friends with 3-4 girls and had some kind of "tickles for massage" trade thing goin on.(This wasn't all going on at the same time I'm not some crazy man pimp) Not creepy or robotic in the sense of an arrangement per se, but that's what was ultimately happening for me throughout the years and I couldn't complain.

Why complain, when something works so well?
This is the formula so many seem to be missing.
Chill out, be nice to people, and be amazed at how "lucky" you suddenly become.
 
Attempting to get the thread back on track...

The reason I choose to say can be summed up with a simple quote: "Beggars can't be choosers!"

As a guy, finding a girl who is a) into your kink and b) into you is extremely difficult. If I only had relationships with girls who were into my kink, I'd have 0 relationships. So I take the next best thing. Sure, it's not as satisfying but my options are limited so I go with the flow so to speak. I've had many great experiences with many great women over the years. Nothing will ever top being with a woman who actually has our fetish though. That is on a whole other level. It's something I crave but have never had. Maybe someday I will who knows.

Some of you have been more fortunate. Be grateful you have been and try to understand and do your best to listen to those who haven't.
 
Also I love the topic of this discussion. I often wondered since I joined as well how people deal with partners that wont indulge their fetish or just aren't ticklish. I never asked because I didn't want to come off like I was judging them for the decisions they made since my opinion on the subject is wildy different(dealbreaker). But Chicago broached the subject perfectly before it got derailed.

Another interest dynamic I wonder about is what it would be like if two people with this fetish dated but had different specific different likes about it. Like if a foot guy dated an upper body lee etc. That's a pretty interesting dynamic Id like to know about. Would she eventually be into her feet being played with or would she simply tolerate it because she knows the guy will eventually pin her down and tickle her as per her request. Ive only dated one beautiful woman from here for about a year but she enjoyed being tickled everywhere so I did not see that dynamic come into play.
 
Attempting to get the thread back on track...

The reason I choose to say can be summed up with a simple quote: "Beggars can't be choosers!"

As a guy, finding a girl who is a) into your kink and b) into you is extremely difficult. If I only had relationships with girls who were into my kink, I'd have 0 relationships. So I take the next best thing. Sure, it's not as satisfying but my options are limited so I go with the flow so to speak. Some of you have been more fortunate. Be grateful you have been and try to understand and do your best to listen to those who haven't.

Fair enough.
I'm not arguing your point, or your perspective; but to write off other people's successes as matters of luck is a little off the mark. It takes hard work to make any relationship work, and I will give you one bit of info that I believe is true, regarding people in relationships:

People don't fall in love with fetishes.
They fall in love with people with fetishes.
You want someone to want what you want as bad as you want it. That's a tall order.
But someone who loves you will want to do things please you, as badly as you want to do things to please them.
It's not a big deal, honestly. It's only tickling.
 
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