I'm not twisting a thing around, it is just the same as making you take special anti-fetish classes to keep a job as it is to make certain students (not all students) take a class just because they're listed as fat. My statement about stereotypes is just that, a statement; you're the one twisting that one around.
No, it isn't the same. Sexual preference and a physical state which can cause a financial burden on the people around you are NOT the same and cannot be compared to each other, so your question and argument do not apply. Sorry.
I don't know about your state, but mine is an "at will" which means they can fire you at will without giving reason. They could even fire you if they found out about your fetish life and not even give you a reason for it. Fetishists are not a federally protected group and I have no idea where you got the idea that they are unless you're going the "sexual orientation" route. Even then it's not a very strong argument and hope you never have to use it someday to find that out. I knew once I landed a scenario on your doorstep you'd sidestep, but even though you haven't answered the question in print, you did answer it---thanks!
That's precisely what I meant. It's a sexual preference or orientation and therefore it is federally protected. It doesn't matter how
"weak" you think the argument is, as your opinion holds no water against the federal government.
And for the record, I'm not sidestepping anything - you just need to think out the scenario you propose before you submit it. If, on the other hand, you were to ask me how I would feel if my boss decided to fire me because of my spare tire (I have a bit of a beer belly). I'd reply with, "Then I'll just have to get off my ass and get back into shape."
The bottom line is unless you are working in a job that has physical requirements (i.e. the military, police/fire, etc) then a person shouldn't be discriminated against anywhere including a publicly funded college campus.
How is requiring overweight people to excercise considered discrimination? Seems more like a proactive approach to the nation's weight problem to me. If they were being told that because they were fat they can't graduate, that's discrimination. They're being given a specialized curriculum that, in the end, might help them be healthier people.
So there are only fat folks in the clinics, hospitals, and the cemtary right? I know thin folks with health problems like diabetes, high blood pressure, and have had heart attacks and never been overweight a day in their lives Viper. Can you account for that because I certainly can. Weight is only one factor--not the exclusive factor you and those with your mindset use when you're hating on fat folks. I know plenty of healthy big people, they're just fat----so what? But how does one account for all those unhealthy thin folks since with your words only fat folks are high risk candidates?
Funny, I don't remember inferring any of this nonsense. You're putting words in my mouth, kis, and that's highly disrespectful.
I believe what I said was that overweight people are at
higher risk for health problems. The world isn't black and white or cut and dry, so there's always a variable out there that makes deviations from the tendencies.
At the end of the day, weight is used by the medical community and insurance companies but in RL it is a statistic NOT a guaranteed qualifier for health problems. Name me one disease that is exclusive (not "prone" or "high-risk") Viper.....EXCLUSIVE to the obese and I'll get in line for that gastric bypass surgery all us lazy fat folks use as the easy way out!
Nothing is guaranteed except death and taxes. However, where would we be if we didn't follow the tendencies laid out before us?
There are so many responses to this obvious attempt to insult me but I'm going to go with what I've printed below and not grab the bait, if you know what I mean........
No, if I wanted to insult you, it'd be pretty clear. I'd call you a fat fuck or a lazy bitch or something like that - but I didn't say anything like that, did I? Nor am I that kind of person. I simply asked you to explain why you're still self-admittedly overweight if you're so active. Besides, I hold no malice towards you, so I have no reason to cast insults.
I don't care if I was 500lbs; still doesn't make me lazy....it makes me overweight. In other words.....the two aren't synomomous. I know some thin folks that don't even get off the couch unless you make them and some of the most active fat folks ever again disproving your less than interesting argument wrapped up in an insult!
No, what makes someone lazy is the fact that they do little or nothing to improve their physical health, even thought they know it's a problem for them. Yes, it is possible to live a long, healthy life if someone's fat - but it's much less likely. If you think that being overweight doesn't put you at higher risk for health problems, you're simply diluted and ignorant...
Besides it gives the men in my life enjoy something soft to hold onto and I've NEVER gotten a complaint about it. So I guess in that respect.....I enjoy the hell outta' it!
...but if you're healthy and enjoy your physical state of being, then there's nothing wrong! One shouldn't base an opinion of themselves on what other people think. However, despite what you like to think, your opinion is not universal - and to clarify my stance, I'll say this: If someone is overweight, has no chemical or physical imbalance that is keeping them that way, and refuses to take up a habit or alter their lifestyle in a way that will assist them with losing weight, they have no right to complain about being overweight or about programs that encourage better excercise habits and health.
To boil my opinion down to the basics: If you're fat and happy or don't care, great - live your life and enjoy yourself and fuck what anyone else says. If you're fat and unhappy, do something about it or shut the hell up. If you're able but unwilling to take steps to fix a problem you have, you've got no right to bitch about it either, nor do you have the right to bitch about other people trying to help you fix it.
edit: to add more witrhout double posting
Okay, back to the OP. Any physical obstacle should really not stop people from dreaming and getting what they aim for life. Weight has nothing to do with intelligence anyway. Let them finish the schooling.
I agree 100% - weight and intelligence are entirely unrelated. However, what else can be used as motivation to make sure people complete this kind of program?
What I would love to see happen is instead of talking how horrible these kinds of things are or how unfair they are, maybe we should try to make one work - how would it be structured if we were in charge of it's planning?
I don't want to go off topic so I don't have much more to say about it. Us big folks are merely targets for some to take their life aggressions out on. The so-called fat=unhealthy argument really goes to how a person looks and how it offends them; not necessarily guaranteeing that all fat people are unhealthy time bombs ready to explode..............
You will never hear anyone say any of what you just typed out. You're over-simplifying - the concept is that being overweight can make someone have a higher risk for many other health problems that are much less likely to occur to someone who is not overweight.