A bunch of scum worthy of being ground under foot

[the_jimmy_james]

Let's do it.

Let's crush the unworthy.

These pigopolists who want shiteater laws like ACTA and DMCA to be the rule of the land. Let's fuck over the politicians who listen to lobbyists.

Let's fuck the lobbyists SUPER HARD. Let's steal their money and then use it for liquor and *****s. That's better than buying out politicians who's job it is to OBEY their consituents.

If they don't OBEY, they should go to Gitmo and be beaten until they beg for mercy.

People in the public eye who don't believe in True Liberty need to be shoved aside. They should be quickly replaced by real people who will spread the word that only True Liberty must be followed.

This Big Brother Newspeak that the divisive-politics crowd follow is poison. The idea that one side or another is wrong needs to be crushed under the heel of a cruel boot.

It's time to kill off the channels for voices of pundits.

It's time to kill off the chances for divisive voices.

Divisiveness has had its day. Now it's time to drown it out.

Moderate nutjobs of the world, speak up. Shout.

Tell the left and right wings to fuck off. Only then can the world get back on track toward True Liberty. Our slow and steady method is better than their ways.

On one side, you have morons who want to force change while spending quadrillions of dollars. On the other side, you have people who pretend to beat Bibles and appeal to dying old people.

Fuck them all.

It's time to forget special interest groups and simply move society forward without giving two fucking shits about the splinter groups. They can suck it up and soldier on.

If they can't, they don't deserve to fucking live.

This is the twenty-first century. Anybody who can't accept that needs to go find a fucking cave.

 

[Violetta]

I can see you reached your usual point of ranting drunk after I went to bed...

 

[SupportGunner]

Kill all dissidents and outlaw any form of political opposition. Were have we seen this ideas before?

 

[CianN]

Kill all dissidents and outlaw any form of political opposition. Were have we seen this ideas before?

germany iraq etc

 

[the_jimmy_james]

Dude. I'm like the worst kind of white trash. I get drunk and complain about the government.

... And then don't remember doing it.

WTF is my major malfunction!? :blink

Edit: Lay into me you guys. I deserve it for that.

 

[Rox_My_Sox1]

Jamie...your thinking too small...here's a better idea...a national initiated 24 bondage/tickle torture Holiday! Not only would it piss the hell off Glenn Beck and every other hypocritical intolerant bigot but it would be the ultimate expression of true freedom!

Yes! Everyone celebrate bondage/tickle day! No mouth shall be left ungagged! No foot unroasted! No ass unspanked! No pelvis unfeather dusted! No dungeon unoccupied!

No Belladonna undominat...er...um...(points to Jamie)...he said it! (scurries away)

 

[Mash]

*shrug* Everyone complains about the government. Personally, I complain about them because their massive consumption and minimal production is going to run this country into the ground just like it's done to other countries in the past.

 

[Carnivore]

Well, the tone is definitely whiny and hippy-ish. So dude, not cool. Although I'll agree with you about ACTA being BS. DMCA has its uses, though. The "you can't reverse engineer or crack shit" is, well, shit. But the youtube takedown thing has its advantages. Its better to get a takedown and whimperingly submit to the man than get a "I'm gonna sue you" notice.

 

[Rox_My_Sox1]

*shrug* Everyone complains about the government. Personally, I complain about them because their massive consumption and minimal production is going to run this country into the ground just like it's done to other countries in the past.

True...we do need to start producing something...I think we'll see more of that within the next 25 years or so personally...

 

[Bator]

Let's do it.

Let's crush the unworthy.

These pigopolists who want shiteater laws like ACTA and DMCA to be the rule of the land. Let's fuck over the politicians who listen to lobbyists.

Let's fuck the lobbyists SUPER HARD. Let's steal their money and then use it for liquor and *****s. That's better than buying out politicians who's job it is to OBEY their consituents.

If they don't OBEY, they should go to Gitmo and be beaten until they beg for mercy.

People in the public eye who don't believe in True Liberty need to be shoved aside. They should be quickly replaced by real people who will spread the word that only True Liberty must be followed.

This Big Brother Newspeak that the divisive-politics crowd follow is poison. The idea that one side or another is wrong needs to be crushed under the heel of a cruel boot.

It's time to kill off the channels for voices of pundits.

It's time to kill off the chances for divisive voices.

Divisiveness has had its day. Now it's time to drown it out.

Moderate nutjobs of the world, speak up. Shout.

Tell the left and right wings to fuck off. Only then can the world get back on track toward True Liberty. Our slow and steady method is better than their ways.

On one side, you have morons who want to force change while spending quadrillions of dollars. On the other side, you have people who pretend to beat Bibles and appeal to dying old people.

Fuck them all.

It's time to forget special interest groups and simply move society forward without giving two fucking shits about the splinter groups. They can suck it up and soldier on.

If they can't, they don't deserve to fucking live.

This is the twenty-first century. Anybody who can't accept that needs to go find a fucking cave.

I agree Jamie and I,m not drunk but I wouldn,t kill them, that,s far too easy, I,d like to see them do hard physical labour, politicians, lobbyists, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Ann Coulter, Bill O,Reilly, Sean Hannity, the pick and shovel type, preferably on a chain gang, breaking rocks in a quarry with a sledge hammer or a coal mine along with all the thieves and liars on Wall Street and Big industry and we,ll let Rush Limbaugh go through drug withdrawls cold turkey. I want them to look at the other side up close and personal with no possible opportunity of reprieve.

 

[Slaver123]

I agree Jamie and I,m not drunk but I wouldn,t kill them, that,s far too easy, I,d like to see them do hard physical labour, politicians, lobbyists, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Ann Coulter, Bill O,Reilly, Sean Hannity, the pick and shovel type, preferably on a chain gang, breaking rocks in a quarry with a sledge hammer or a coal mine along with all the thieves and liars on Wall Street and Big industry and we,ll let Rush Limbaugh go through drug withdrawls cold turkey. I want them to look at the other side up close and personal with no possible opportunity of reprieve.

Hmmm...you only hate Right-Wingers? So Keith Olbermann and Alan Colmes are ok?

It's un-American to want to silence the opposing view- period. It's un-American to want to silence Conservatives or Liberals or anyone else; people have forgotten this in recent years.

From what I can gather late at night when I'm tired, ACTA is yet another attempt to censor or cripple the Internet; authoritrians hate Democracy and free speech, so they constantly attack the most democratic medium that has ever existed ie the internet, and every single one of us has to be a 'watchdog' or we'll lose our freedoms.

 

[Bator]

Hmmm...you only hate Right-Wingers? So Keith Olbermann and Alan Colmes are ok?

It's un-American to want to silence the opposing view- period. It's un-American to want to silence Conservatives or Liberals or anyone else; people have forgotten this in recent years.

From what I can gather late at night when I'm tired, ACTA is yet another attempt to censor or cripple the Internet; authoritrians hate Democracy and free speech, so they constantly attack the most democratic medium that has ever existed ie the internet, and every single one of us has to be a 'watchdog' or we'll lose our freedoms.

Yes, I dislike right-wingers, you got it

 

[Thulcandra]

On the whole I prefer dealing with conservatives than liberals because conservatives are relatively honest about their evil agenda and sometimes have the excuse of genuinely believing some ancient superstition or other. Liberals on the other hand are nothing but conservatives in sheeps clothing.

Faced with, for example, the mass-murdering behemoth that is the US military a conservative says the problem is that it doesn't kill enough people and a liberal says the problem is that gays aren't allowed to join the fun. Rarely does one see someone even slightly correct to the point that they can say the problem is that it exists at all.

And what's all this talk about un-American? If it has any connection to the actual history and present practices of the real USA then I can only assume it means opposing genocide, racism, male supremacism, oligarchy, imperialism, police repression, stage-managed or outright fraudulent elections and most of all imperialism. Not that Britain is any better mind - just smaller.

Jaime your problem is a lack of class consciousness. Only the working class can bring about the positive change you seek.

Your condemnation of the left is correct however what you are condemning is not the true left. That's the vichy-left - people who oppose the war in Iraq because too many American troops will be killed, people who think a huge giveaway of public money to parasitic health insurers is progress.

As for the right wing, sure a lot of them have dangerous views, especially the climate change deniers. But don't be quick to laugh at those people, they are in many ways closer to the truth than the vichy-left or so-called moderates. Take death panels for example - sure, the tea partiers are wrong in believing that the government will set up panels to decide who lives and who dies, but the fact is that that's actually a rather accurate description of how the health insurance industry works.

Get rid of both sides, yes, but it has to be for the right reason, i.e. that in a capitalist society the only political choice you're offered is exactly which front men will be helping the ruling class rip the rest of us off. Choosing between the democrats and reublicans (or labour and conservative) amounts to no more than a choice of being punched in the face with the right hand or the left hand.

Your moderates are not going to achieve what needs to be done. Only the Proletariat can do it and it must be armed with the science of Marxism-Leninism to succeed. None of the bourgeois political groupings, be they left, right or moderate, stand a chance at improving things because they represent the interests of the capitalist class - the same class that makes a profit from division, pollution, poverty and war. Trusting any such group is setting a fox to guard the henhouse.

Basically the choices are communist revolution or doom. I know what side my bread is buttered on.

 

[Thulcandra]

Everyone in the USA should join the American Party of Labour. It's afaik the only correct political group in the USA.

 

[Bator]

Hmmm...you only hate Right-Wingers? So Keith Olbermann and Alan Colmes are ok?

It's un-American to want to silence the opposing view- period. It's un-American to want to silence Conservatives or Liberals or anyone else; people have forgotten this in recent years.

From what I can gather late at night when I'm tired, ACTA is yet another attempt to censor or cripple the Internet; authoritrians hate Democracy and free speech, so they constantly attack the most democratic medium that has ever existed ie the internet, and every single one of us has to be a 'watchdog' or we'll lose our freedoms.

And what,s this un-American crap, do you think that the USA owns the whole Western Hemishere, Everyone from North and South America are Americans, your country, the USA is just a part of it, it isn,t all of it, why don,t you call yourselves US, United Statesers or just the USA. The US doesn,t make laws for the whole world, they like to believe that their war mongering and bullying tactics will somehow make the world a better place because they have the Bomb, the problem is that other countries are now getting the Bomb as well, the genie is out of the bottle and is not going back in and now many countries are not afraid of the USA at all and whatever it,s trying to do, it,s not working, it,s is now one of the most hated countries on this planet. The US should clean up it,s own back yard before forcing their values or lack there of on everyone else. You have gang violence, mob violence, border violence, the homeless and sick, jobless, racism, children killing each other, school shootings, kids doing crack or meth amphetomine and and selling drugs on corners. Now you have the Muslim people so angry that they would like to murder us all, your infrastructure is crumbling and 10% of your people make 90% of the money, while the rest are fighting to put food on the table and pay their rent, your in bed with the Saudi,s and China, your soldiers spend 3 and 4 tours of duty in the Middle East but do you see politicians, the rich or lobbiests sons and daughters fighting a losing battle and risking life and limb in a war they cannot win? You have even dragged my country into it and I have lost friends because of it, you are constantly sticking your nose where it doesn,t belong and trying to tell others how to live, well your way of life isn,t all that great either, your middle class has been decimated and may never recover, your education system is falling apart, your healthcare is the most costly to patients in the so-called civilized world, your roads and rail systems are a shambles, you are constantly finding ecoli and samonella in food supplies, your meat produce should be banned, and yet you love your guns, nuclear warheads, jets, bombers, aircraft carriers, submarines, battle ships, big oil and the Wall Street crooks, you spout more propaganda than any other country in the world, look what you have done with Healthcare, you really had the opportunity to make life better for all but you have brainwashed the very people that it would help the most into believing it,s Communism instead of a social program that would benefit the poor and needy and your news channels with the exception of PBS create the news instead of reporting it. As far as Democracy goes Capitalism and Democracy are totally different, in a Democracy everyone has a voice, in a Capitalistic society only the rich, politicans, lobbiests and the Military do, it,s similar to the Feudal system with the peasants and serfs. Democracy, what a joke. Your conservative buddies, the Republicans caused so much trouble and left your country in such as mess it,s ridiculous. I don,t like politicians of any ilk but whenever President Obama tries to do anything that might actually help they block him at every turn and I certainly don,t want to shut anyone up, everybody should be screaming at the top of their lungs for this to stop and start helping your own people first, once this is straightened out then you can help others but try it without the wars and by using diplomacy, murdering people and their families doesn,t solve anything it makes them homicidal or suicidal and they don,t care if they have to die as long as they take some of us with them. And I,m afraid that your so-called watch dogs are on the take just like the rest of those slimeballs. Now that was a rant:lol

 

[PurpleStyle]

Hmmm...you only hate Right-Wingers? So Keith Olbermann and Alan Colmes are ok?

It's un-American to want to silence the opposing view- period. It's un-American to want to silence Conservatives or Liberals or anyone else; people have forgotten this in recent years.

It's not un-American to want something. The beauty of a free nation is that hate-filled misanthropes are allowed to say whatever they want. When they do, we're free to laugh at their inanity and horrendous grammar mistakes. :lol

 

[Slaver123]

It's not un-American to want something. The beauty of a free nation is that hate-filled misanthropes are allowed to say whatever they want. When they do, we're free to laugh at their inanity and horrendous grammar mistakes. :lol

Yes! Some sanity! (Thulcandra injected some sanity too but I don't know how to quote 2 people at once, and I absolutely disagree with his Communist solution)

You're right; it's not un-American to WANT to silence someone's view, but it certainly IS un-American to actually TRY to silence someone's view.

Here's a sincere question for Thulcandra about Communism; why can't a Communist state EVER have free speech? USSR, N Korea, Red China, Cuba, etc why do they ALL forcibly crush any dissent?

I don't understand why an economic system is a sure-fire path to tyranny every time.

 

[the_jimmy_james]

Uh oh shit, things are getting serious in here.

Fuck people's faces! There's some stuff around so make them pay HARD for it.

Take those guys and make 'em walk around in circles carrying stone signs that they carved with their earlobes. Only then can they LEARN what it means to be utterly baffled.

These pigs just root around in mud and eat last week's eggs erroneous after suckling the teat of milk and honey every day and night. Who offered it to them?

I did not!

And as we all know that's what matters yes? Yes! Slam their sun-baked bones into the machines of industry and sub-progress! Grind wheat with machines powered by pure hatefuel of right-wing megablasts.

Pull the sun from the sky and sink the goddamn moon in the fucking ocean.

Oh shit I just parodied the holy living fuck out of myself.

 

[the_jimmy_james]

Yes! Some sanity! (Thulcandra injected some sanity too but I don't know how to quote 2 people at once, and I absolutely disagree with his Communist solution)

The powers that be would silence you! You must know that evil men from Washington DC roam the streets at night looking for innocents to molest and money to eat!

Bill O'Reilly wants to fly down your throat in a B-52 made of solid gold to prove his badassity to you, and you'd walk into his trap with cash in hand!

You're right; it's not un-American to WANT to silence someone's view, but it certainly IS un-American to actually TRY to silence someone's view.

Silence is golden! It echoes in the night, bringing a thundering void to my ears and mind! Never can things be as they were. Why?

Punishment! It's the only way! Tar and feathers and Dr. Emmett Brown all combined into a conflagration of badassery and awesometude that just makes a huge statue of James Earl Jones rise from the ashes of capitalistic communism.

Here's a sincere question for Thulcandra about Communism; why can't a Communist state EVER have free speech? USSR, N Korea, Red China, Cuba, etc why do they ALL forcibly crush any dissent?

I don't understand why an economic system is a sure-fire path to tyranny every time.

Powers granted by their dark gods!!!!!!

Oh shit I drooled on the keyboard mwaaaaaaahhhh

(Cue laugh track.)

 

[Mash]

And what,s this un-American crap, do you think that the USA owns the whole Western Hemishere, Everyone from North and South America are Americans, your country, the USA is just a part of it, it isn,t all of it, why don,t you call yourselves US, United Statesers or just the USA.

Rifleman actually brings up a rather valid point that happens to also be one of my larger pet peeves, that I myself make the mistake of sometimes.

The term 'American', or 'America', while being commonly used to describe the US or US citizens, in ACTUALITY refers to all of North, South, and Central America.

I would REALLY like to point this out to all the European, 'American haters' out there. Knock it off. It's not America you hate, it's the United States of America.

 

[the_jimmy_james]

I would REALLY like to point this out to all the European, 'American haters' out there. Knock it off. It's not America you hate, it's the United States of America.

And only because it's popular and convenient to.

If a major earthquake blasted mainland Europe, they'd be there, hat-in-hand, wanting some USA money, no, expecting some.

And they'd be really nice then. Then after things were back to normal, they'd hate the USA again because it would once more be convenient.

All without actually having known people from the place. Kinda makes the whole thing sound just a bit petty doesn't it? Yes it does. It does you cutesy wootsie little tootsie!

 

[Mash]

And only because it's popular and convenient to.

If a major earthquake blasted mainland Europe, they'd be there, hat-in-hand, wanting some USA money, no, expecting some.

And they'd be really nice then. Then after things were back to normal, they'd hate the USA again because it would once more be convenient.

All without actually having known people from the place. Kinda makes the whole thing sound just a bit petty doesn't it?

I suppose they have to have somebody to hate.

Yes it does. It does you cutesy wootsie little tootsie!

Are you drunk again? xD

 

[Bator]

I certainly don,t hate the USA, you are great neighbours and I have family there but it,s time to stop trying to be the policemen of the world, nation builders and start looking after your own people and infrastructure. We have plenty of our own beggars and thieves up here and the same goes for us. I,d just like to see all these white collar crime lords pay for what they have done and are continuing to do to the elderly, sick, students, working class or the working poor, whichever suits your fancy and I don,t mean by placing them in club med. I want to see them doing hard time. I,ll tell you one thing that I do admire about the Europeans and that is their governments are intimidated by their people and that is how it should remain. Tunisian and Egyptian people have finally had enough and it looks like Lybia might be next and although we may not have it as tough as they do, pehaps we should give it a go as well but we are far too civilized which isn,t necessarily a good thing in times such as this.

 

[the_jimmy_james]

I certainly don,t hate the USA, you are great neighbours and I have family there but it,s time to stop trying to be the policemen of the world and start looking after your own people and infrastructure. We have plenty of our own beggars and thieves up here and the same goes for us. I,d just like to see all these white collar crime lords pay for what they have done and are continuing to do to the working class or the working poor, whichever suits your fancy and I don,t mean by placing them in club med. I want to see them doing hard time. I,ll tell you one thing that I do admire about the Europeans and that is that their governments are intimidated by their people and that is how it should remain. We should give it a go.

That's for sure. And that's really the issue as to why the States are so fucked up. That's honestly my big message. Something has to be done to make the US Government learn its place.

It's "government by the people for the people," and in no way is it "government of the people by the rich."

It's kinda why I said that lobbying should be considered a treasonous crime. It subverts the function of the government and removes the influence that an elected official's constituents have upon them.

After all, we don't get to bribe them. That's illegal for us, but it's apparently not illegal for lobbyists to buy them dinner and all that crap. Just because it's not money under the table doesn't mean it's not a bribe.

 

[Thulcandra]

Here's a sincere question for Thulcandra about Communism; why can't a Communist state EVER have free speech? USSR, N Korea, Red China, Cuba, etc why do they ALL forcibly crush any dissent?

I don't understand why an economic system is a sure-fire path to tyranny every time.

First off, China, Cuba and Korea are not and never have been communist. The only countries to have ever been communist were the USSR 1917-~1960 and Albania 1945-~1985.

Explaining why in full would take far too long so I'm going to keep it brief - all the other supposedly communist countries (as well as the USSR and Albania themselves after being taken over by revisionists) were explicitly founded as states in which all classes would hold power together in an alliance for the common good, led by the proletariat. However, the true Marxist-Leninist formulation is that of the dictatorship of the proletariat i.e. ALL political power is wielded by the working class, none whatsoever by any other classes, which over time will be either abolished by force or absorbed into the proletariat.

Now for the answer to your real question. The reason is that no society which ever has been or claimed to be or aspired to be communist, socialist or even progressive has ever been left in peace by the bourgeoisie to the extent that it's been able to develop how it wanted to. I'll give one brief example.

When the USSR was first founded it has fully democratic elections, opposition parties, all kinds of civil liberties and even gay marriage. Most of that was abolished in 1920 - why? Because every important country in the world invaded the USSR, including but not limited to Britain, France, Germany and Japan. This invasion was accompanied by aid to terrorist groups within the USSR. On top of this, large numbers of the Russian Bourgeoisie actively infiltrated the Communist party with the aim of destroying socialism.

People talk a lot about Stalin being paranoid, but don't usually ask why. Here's an example - Boris Bazhanov was the highest level defector in the USSR's existence. He was a member of the Politburo and Stalin's personal secretary before fleeing to the USA. In the USA he wrote a book and here's what he had to say:

Starting in 1920, the open struggle against the Bolshevik plague ended. To fight against it from outside had become impossible. It had to be mined from within. A Trojan Horse had to be infiltrated into the communist fortress .... All the threads of the dictatorship converged in the single knot of the Politburo. The coup d'état would have to come from there. ... To spit at them in their face would have only given me 10 bullets. I took another path. To save the élite of my city, I covered myself with the mask of communist ideology.

He was far from the only one.

So basically, there was repression because there were groups and individuals who ought to have been repressed. Repression isn't automatically bad in some Manichean way - it depends who is doing it to whom and why. If it's the working class repressing those who would send them back to slave in the fields to support a few parasites then repression is a very good thing.