A bunch of scum worthy of being ground under foot

[Thulcandra]

Rifleman actually brings up a rather valid point that happens to also be one of my larger pet peeves, that I myself make the mistake of sometimes.

The term 'American', or 'America', while being commonly used to describe the US or US citizens, in ACTUALITY refers to all of North, South, and Central America.

I would REALLY like to point this out to all the European, 'American haters' out there. Knock it off. It's not America you hate, it's the United States of America.

true, i apologise. even with the USA it's not the people I hate but the ruling classes.

 

[Mash]

true, i apologise. even with the USA it's not the people I hate but the ruling classes.

Well, I wasn't actually referring to anyone in particular. I'm just sticking up for the other countries that don't deserve to be sucked into these generalizations, and correcting a misconception.

 

[kopfhorer1]

Has anyone seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBnSv3a6Nh4

 

[desk]

Reading these posts I figured some lefty would rant about the right... Shouldn't you be in Wisconsin now with the rest of the douche bags?

 

[Thulcandra]

Reading these posts I figured some lefty would rant about the right... Shouldn't you be in Wisconsin now with the rest of the douche bags?

I'd like to remind everyone that forums user "desk" once posted a story where ayn rand was tickling dick cheney's nipples with a feather made of purestrain gold.

 

[FeatherDaemon1]

I justed wanted to say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv8tVxk6Nj4

 

[the_jimmy_james]

I'd like to remind everyone that forums user "desk" once posted a story where ayn rand was tickling dick cheney's nipples with a feather made of purestrain gold.

You're not shitting, either are you? You're for real that he did.

 

[Bator]

Reading these posts I figured some lefty would rant about the right... Shouldn't you be in Wisconsin now with the rest of the douche bags?

Douchebags in Wisconsin? Let me tell you something you bottom feeder, if it wasn,t for those "douchebags" you wouldn,t have an education. Many of them are teachers who buy supplies for their classrooms out of their own pockets and their top wage is $45,000, they have given away everything the government has asked of them but when it comes to taking away the right of collective bargaining the government has gone too far and this could be the straw that breaks the camels back. If it wasn,t for unions there wouldn,t even be a minimum wage. Some rich fat-assed scumbags who have never broken a sweat in their lives demanding that they give this right away should be drawn, quartered and sent off to the glue factory and you should be standing on your head on a concrete floor while they take turns swinging at your balls with a Louisville slugger, if you have any. I,ll call you a douchebag if you ever rise to that level but you,ll have to slither your slimey self out of the muck and mire first.

 

[FeatherDaemon1]

Douchebags in Wisconsin? Let me tell you something you bottom feeder, if it wasn,t for those "douchebags" you wouldn,t have an education. They are teachers and many of them buy supplies for their classrooms out of their own pockets and their top wage is $45,000, they have given away everything the government has asked of them but when it comes to taking away the right of collective bargaining the government has gone too far and this could be the straw that breaks the camels back. If it wasn,t for unions there wouldn,t even be a minimum wage. Some rich fat-assed scumbags who have never broken a sweat in their lives demanding that they give this right away should be drawn, quartered and sent to the glue factory.

I can't let this slide without comment. These are public employees, not private. It was the private sector unions which did all the grunt work back in the day when there were inequities between labor and business. This debate is over public sector employee unions. The kind of job you get through knowing somebody. The fat assed DPW workers who sit around looking, holding a coffee while only one guy is actually needed for the job. The teachers are lumped into the mix yes, but honestly it is the buyer beware. You know what kind of job you are signing up for so quit whining and bitching about it. If you don't want to deal with the crap then get another job.

 

[PurpleStyle]

Reading these posts I figured some lefty would rant about the right... Shouldn't you be in Wisconsin now with the rest of the douche bags?

Douche bags? What, like Rethuglican governor Scott Walker? Click this to hear him show how much of an evil conservative scumbag he is.

 

[Bator]

I can't let this slide without comment. These are public employees, not private. It was the private sector unions which did all the grunt work back in the day when there were inequities between labor and business. This debate is over public sector employee unions. The kind of job you get through knowing somebody. The fat assed DPW workers who sit around looking, holding a coffee while only one guy is actually needed for the job. The teachers are lumped into the mix yes, but honestly it is the buyer beware. You know what kind of job you are signing up for so quit whining and bitching about it. If you don't want to deal with the crap then get another job.

If you were one of them you would have more compassion. Buyer beware? Did you come up with that yourself? Now run off and sit on Rush Limbaugh,s knee, you,ve done your dead.

 

[PurpleStyle]

Yes! Some sanity! (Thulcandra injected some sanity too but I don't know how to quote 2 people at once, and I absolutely disagree with his Communist solution)

You're right; it's not un-American to WANT to silence someone's view, but it certainly IS un-American to actually TRY to silence someone's view.

Here's a sincere question for Thulcandra about Communism; why can't a Communist state EVER have free speech? USSR, N Korea, Red China, Cuba, etc why do they ALL forcibly crush any dissent?

I don't understand why an economic system is a sure-fire path to tyranny every time.

That's not "true" communism. True communism would lack the severely authoritarian governments all of those countries have. With that said, we will never have "true" communism.

 

[Slaver123]

First off, China, Cuba and Korea are not and never have been communist. The only countries to have ever been communist were the USSR 1917-~1960 and Albania 1945-~1985.

Explaining why in full would take far too long so I'm going to keep it brief - all the other supposedly communist countries (as well as the USSR and Albania themselves after being taken over by revisionists) were explicitly founded as states in which all classes would hold power together in an alliance for the common good, led by the proletariat. However, the true Marxist-Leninist formulation is that of the dictatorship of the proletariat i.e. ALL political power is wielded by the working class, none whatsoever by any other classes, which over time will be either abolished by force or absorbed into the proletariat.

Now for the answer to your real question. The reason is that no society which ever has been or claimed to be or aspired to be communist, socialist or even progressive has ever been left in peace by the bourgeoisie to the extent that it's been able to develop how it wanted to. I'll give one brief example.

When the USSR was first founded it has fully democratic elections, opposition parties, all kinds of civil liberties and even gay marriage. Most of that was abolished in 1920 - why? Because every important country in the world invaded the USSR, including but not limited to Britain, France, Germany and Japan. This invasion was accompanied by aid to terrorist groups within the USSR. On top of this, large numbers of the Russian Bourgeoisie actively infiltrated the Communist party with the aim of destroying socialism.

People talk a lot about Stalin being paranoid, but don't usually ask why. Here's an example - Boris Bazhanov was the highest level defector in the USSR's existence. He was a member of the Politburo and Stalin's personal secretary before fleeing to the USA. In the USA he wrote a book and here's what he had to say:

Starting in 1920, the open struggle against the Bolshevik plague ended. To fight against it from outside had become impossible. It had to be mined from within. A Trojan Horse had to be infiltrated into the communist fortress .... All the threads of the dictatorship converged in the single knot of the Politburo. The coup d'état would have to come from there. ... To spit at them in their face would have only given me 10 bullets. I took another path. To save the élite of my city, I covered myself with the mask of communist ideology.

He was far from the only one.

So basically, there was repression because there were groups and individuals who ought to have been repressed. Repression isn't automatically bad in some Manichean way - it depends who is doing it to whom and why. If it's the working class repressing those who would send them back to slave in the fields to support a few parasites then repression is a very good thing.

Wow...thank you. Honestly I'm going to pore over this when work settles down in a few days.

We hold similar views of the "ruling class" only I see it as something biological; humans are hierarchical primates and so tyranny and bullying are in our animal nature. Any un-enlightened person WILL fall into these behaviors given the chance. Justice and human rights are NOT in our primitive nature, they're a product of enlightenment and self-examination.

Dictators never embrace the rule of law because they want their own word to be the law; they abuse and exploit nations, dictatorial industrialists exploit their workers, bad men abuse their wives and children, bullies abuse weaker people at all levels of society. It's like a rampant disease in humankind...

 

[kopfhorer1]

...[D]ictatorial industrialists exploit their workers, bad men abuse their wives and children, bullies abuse weaker people at all levels of society. It's like a rampant disease in humankind...

Yes, and certain social and political climates encourage this kind of thing, kind of like the way that moisture encourages black mold.

This is why we must unite and push back, or else spend our entire lives being bullied.

And say what you will about unions. All save the most corrupt (e.g. Teamsters, Musicians) have insured what few rights American workers now enjoy like the weekend and yes the minimum wage (as inadequate as it is, how'd you like to be working for 25 cents an hour like they do in some Asian countries?). Remember also that unions were formed at a time when employers took an entirely cavalier attitude to preventable worker deaths and injuries. In a society where workers are considered disposable commodities, unions help workers keep their humanity.

Douche bags? What, like Rethuglican governor Scott Walker? Click this to hear him show how much of an evil conservative scumbag he is.

Comservative is too nice a word. Frankly, he sounds like the school's star football player bragging about how many freshmen he's robbed lunch money off of.

 

[CianN]

Jamie...your thinking too small...here's a better idea...a national initiated 24 bondage/tickle torture Holiday! Not only would it piss the hell off Glenn Beck and every other hypocritical intolerant bigot but it would be the ultimate expression of true freedom!

Yes! Everyone celebrate bondage/tickle day! No mouth shall be left ungagged! No foot unroasted! No ass unspanked! No pelvis unfeather dusted! No dungeon unoccupied!

No Belladonna undominat...er...um...(points to Jamie)...he said it! (scurries away)

rox think of us lees before you say things like that 🙁

 

[Violetta]

rox think of us lees before you say things like that 🙁

She very obviously was. 😉

 

[CianN]

She very obviously was. 😉

naughty 😉

 

[Violetta]

Oh, there's an understatement, ragazzo.

 

[CianN]

what :L

 

[Mash]

Jamie...your thinking too small...here's a better idea...a national initiated 24 bondage/tickle torture Holiday! Not only would it piss the hell off Glenn Beck and every other hypocritical intolerant bigot but it would be the ultimate expression of true freedom!

Yes! Everyone celebrate bondage/tickle day! No mouth shall be left ungagged! No foot unroasted! No ass unspanked! No pelvis unfeather dusted! No dungeon unoccupied!

A bondage day to celebrate freedom? Oh sweet irony. x)

 

[CianN]

Haha I get it 😀

 

[desk]

If I don't agree with your naive left-wing ideology, I am a bigot?...How stupid are you?

 

[Dr. Bill Kobb]

If I don't agree with your naive left-wing ideology, I am a bigot?...How stupid are you?

Wow, you bring nothing whatsoever to the table but name-calling and insults, don't you? You could at least try to do that with some panache, some flair, as Jamie did in his initial drunken rant.

 

[Thulcandra]

if i don't agree with your naive left-wing ideology, i am a bigot?...how stupid are you?

is a man! Not entitled! To the sweat! Of his brow???

 

[Thulcandra]

reminder that forums user "desk" was laughed out of the chatroom for issuing a general invitation to "invisible hand roleplay" and for admitting that he is the writer of well-known terrible webcomic diversity lane.