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[venray]

Scott......

You say that what I have claimed is not biblical. I say you have not studied the bible or you misunderstand it:

Once again you misinterpret what I have said...seems to be a habit with you..I did NOT say that what you said wasnt biblical..I merely point out that when one studies the Bible and looks at the whole picture, one will not continuously be a "prophet of doom"...

You unfortunately like many others before you, take the passages that illustrate your point and ignore the meaning of the book as a whole, which is why I usually dont respond.

I have studied the Bible along with many other religious books. I have the belief that yes the end of life as we know it is coming,
but this is not necessarily a bad thing.

You choose to belive differently, so be it, but to believe that it is all your fault that we are together in a tickling forum (the original reason for your post I believe) is ludicrous at best.

You did create this place...had you not someone else would have. I am sorry that you cannot get over your feelings of guilt and I understand your point of view. I bear you no malice though I tend to come across that way sometimes..(sorry)...I hope you find peace my friend, but it will not come by posting here in the hopes of creating a mass exodus.

Ray

 

[BigJim]

Re: Scott......

You say that what I have claimed is not biblical. I say you have not studied the bible or you misunderstand it:

Once again you misinterpret what I have said...seems to be a habit with you..I did NOT say that what you said wasnt biblical..I merely point out that when one studies the Bible and looks at the whole picture, one will not continuously be a "prophet of doom"...

You unfortunately like many others before you, take the passages that illustrate your point and ignore the meaning of the book as a whole, which is why I usually dont respond.

I have studied the Bible along with many other religious books. I have the belief that yes the end of life as we know it is coming,
but this is not necessarily a bad thing.

You choose to belive differently, so be it, but to believe that it is all your fault that we are together in a tickling forum (the original reason for your post I believe) is ludicrous at best.

You did create this place...had you not someone else would have. I am sorry that you cannot get over your feelings of guilt and I understand your point of view. I bear you no malice though I tend to come across that way sometimes..(sorry)...I hope you find peace my friend, but it will not come by posting here in the hopes of creating a mass exodus.

Ray

Once again Ray, you take to words right out of my mouth. The end of life as we know it doesn't mean the end of life does it? Armagheddon ain't the end of existence, just the end of THIS world. i.e. The transition to a new one.

And before anyone gets the idea that I think we're all gonna emmigrate to Mars, I didn't mean that. I meant that this world will change into a new guise. That ain't just a freaky New Age concept either. It just means that we're changing, the world is changing and the cosmos is too.

 

[venray]

Jim..those are my beliefs exactly! 😀


Ray

 

[BigJim]

Scott(ReturnToGod), this is for you..................

I know you're a person who's searching for spirituality Scott, so hopefully this won't sound too off the wall to you.

Every human soul is a splinter of the "Holy Spirit", yes? The way I see it we keep choosing to live our lives here in order to learn whatever lessons our "higher selves" see fit to put in our way. Human spiritual awareness is awakening and accelerating at an unbelievable rate these days and no man (or woman) needs guidance to know what is good or evil. Every single one of us is "the Son of God." "Luminous beings we are; not this crude matter", to quote a friend of Dave 2112. Every time we make a decision, if our mind and soul is at peace and free of self imposed torment, we know whether it will affect the world for good and evil and we judge ourselves accordingly. I for one am very conscious of this and although I don't believe in his literal existence in the same way you do, I evaluate every decision by asking the question....."What would Jesus do?"

The one thing I'm sure that sort of person would do is to create as much positive energy as possible. The TMF has done that more than any other organisation, formal or informal, that I've ever been a part of. Have you ever considered the fact that your creation of his place might have been the "will of God" and that your current dilema might just be His way of allowing you to discover the deepest parts of your character? We do get negativity around here, but the majority of us can always handle that and dismiss it. This forum has allowed communication and interaction by a worldwide group of people who had for the most part, considered themselves as being weird or "freaks." Until we discovered just how damn normal we were, a lot of us (me especially) found it incredibly difficult to live with that aspect of our characters. I cannot believe that the creation of something that created so much inner peace for so many people, and allows them to meet can ever be considered evil or immoral.

One day I hope you come to terms with just how much good you did for the world by making the TMF.

 

[dig dug dog]

Oh My! Where to Begin?

So many posts...so little time...

Dear Omega--

I believe areenactor's point, at bottom, is how Christianity over time distanced itself more and more from it's Judaic roots. One small example: Easter used to be celebrated on the Jewish Passover, but was moved to the first Sunday following the full moon after the spring equinox. And I would be glad to discuss Biblical interpretation with you, at your pleasure.

Dear Areenactor--

I do understand your frustration which Christian claims, but your responses are not always solidly arranged. For example, the Jewish Bible never had anything to do with Sanskrit. And what you said about Jews naming their children things like Yehoshua (or "Yeshua"--which is not really a given name), is not correct. The Israelites/Jews often incorporate elements of divine names into names for children. The are thousands of Jews today with names like "Eli", meaning "My God".

Dear BigJim--

What you wrote in your last post about the TMF is very well said. Scott--we do thank you, even if you regret what you did.

dig dug dog

 

[maverick83]

Looking at this post, and the replies, I have formed the following opinion: The same thing can be taken many different ways. I find it extremely amusing how everyone seems to insist that their interpretation is THE correct one. I suppose it all comes down to perspective. At any rate, in direct contradiction with my post earlier, I'd like to throw my interpretation in. My belief is that we've misinterpreted religious documents entirely. My opinion is that we are currently repeating (not exactly repeating, but the basics remain unaltered) something that already happened and is documented in religious texts. The problem is, they were written with full understanding of the entire cycle, and interpreted with significantly less understanding in the following cycle. That is, the time when they were written corresponds to a time in the next cycle far in the future with respect to when they were discovered. The result is a composition of metaphors that seem to indirectly predict our future. Think about it this way. If you described something like an atomic bomb to someone from, say, the middle ages, what do you suppose they would think of it? How would they explain it? "Fire from heaven" perhaps? (I dunno if that's anywhere in the bible, it's just an example of how something can be misinterpreted.) Why do I believe we repeat this cycle so closely? Because human nature would not change from one cycle to the next. The same state of mind will yield the same results, every time. The problem I've found with my theory is that it fails to explain how the human race can be wiped out, then re-emerge. There are so many possible explanations, but with no evidence supporting any of them.