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A question for 1st time potential gathering attendees

ScotTickle,

As QBW has already said, it is perfectly fine and valid to find gathering as less-than-desirable. Also, you don't have to share your personal reasons of "why" if you don't want to. BUT, we're here if you change your mind🙂

I appreciate you stating your oposing view so eloquently and diplomatically.

Now, getting back to the question at hand:
I just have to say that I've only been to one such gathering, but it was a very pleasant and liberating experience. However, I admit that I was a bit nervous at first, and I'll probably be nervous the next time and the time after that...but IMO, it's worth it!
 
Mia

MistressMia said:
ScotTickle,

As QBW has already said, it is perfectly fine and valid to find gathering as less-than-desirable. Also, you don't have to share your personal reasons of "why" if you don't want to. BUT, we're here if you change your mind🙂

I appreciate you stating your oposing view so eloquently and diplomatically.

Now, getting back to the question at hand:
I just have to say that I've only been to one such gathering, but it was a very pleasant and liberating experience. However, I admit that I was a bit nervous at first, and I'll probably be nervous the next time and the time after that...but IMO, it's worth it!

Thanks and I am glad I and the rest of us at the Hyenas made you feel at ease. I hope I (we) get to see you at a future gathering real soon!
I pride myself at making all who attend a Hyenas Club gathering feel comfortable especially those who are attending a gathering for the first time as you did.



TTD
 
Scot and others who voiced there concerns;

I have to tell you all one very important thing. It might sound strange to hear ME say it but those who know me from all the Gatherings can verify this fact. I almost NEVER participate in tickling at the Gatherings that I host. Why? Because I am really a very private person. I will watch a demo and there were some acceptions where I tickled my own girlfriend, but I really really REALLY enjoy meeting people to talk about tickling and the history of our Community, and I have met some great friends like this. I can honestly say that I have made life-long friends from the NESTs.

Tickling is very intimate to me but I love meeting others who share our little Secret. It's fun to watch some of the videos and talk about them and laugh and joke with others. To me, that is the best thing.

So put away your preconceived ideas about tickling parties and realize that you will meet some great people. I am also amazed that there is such an interesting assortment of:

Attorney's
Goverment employees
Cops
Firemen
Doctors
Therapists
Psychologists
Computer programmers
Engineers
Musicians

Real people. Real people who all carry this little Secret around. Real people who, when put in a room with all these other real people who also carry the secret, suddenly find themselves free for the first time in their life, to be themselves.

Max
 
I just wanted to add one more thing.

At the last NEST there were people who lived nearby Phili who didn't want to come to the gathering itself but they wanted to meet lots of the folks who were attending. Didn't matter why they weren't coming to the party itself. So what we did was we invited them to the motel to meet us or to join us for dinner.

That worked out terrific. I got to meet several folks who weren't going to be at NEST itself but I'd always wanted just to meet them and say hello eye to eye.

This year we'll be doing something similar. We're going to host a cocktail party at the motel the night before the NEST. Folks who aren't coming to the gathering will be invited to come meet lots of your online friends just to meet and talk. We may even have a panel discussion about our favorite sport to answer questions and easy concerns for those folks who are coming to NEST for the first time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... The BEST part of NEST for me is getting to meet so many wonderful people. Actually at the last NEST I didn't participate in any of the ticking as a "lee". I was busy doing my hostess duties,helping to set up demos, and doing airport shuttles. But I renewed friendships with folks I hadn't seen in a long time and met new friends I'm still in contact with.

This was a REALLY great post Scot. It brought out lots of good points that I'm sure many folks have had but hadn't voiced yet. I hope the responses you've gotten have helped answer your questions.
 
Just addin' my $0.02, agreein' that there ain't a reason anyone HAS to attend. Heck, there's folks that used to attend, and don't, now. There's folks that sign up, and never actually show to events. For me, as the listfather for such events, it's all good. I'm more interested in there bein' choices for everyone.

So long as you can choose what you WANT to do, I'm happy. Personally, I know I won't be attending them forever. After 5 years, they've become very "normal" for me, and it's more of an effort to get them to happen. I'll run the West Coast Gatherings list 'til I no longer have net access, but I will attend less and less, now that I'm involved. I know I'll see the friends I've made, through these events, for the rest of my life, and that's worth way more to me than any night's play.

I'm glad you're givin' voice to a side of "us" that isn't inclined towards attending. I know and am friends with such folk, here, and respect 'em greatly. Good to see that side shown. It's definitely to each, their own way.

dvnc
 
1st time attending, this is my concern

I will be attending NEST, the very 1st gathering that I have had the nerve and time to attend. For one I am nervous, I am fairly outgoing as a person but this somehow seems different as it is the one thing that I have not shared in the open. 2nd, I know bounderies will be respected, but I am also a bit fearful of people approaching me and asking me to participate being it might take me a bit to warm up to this, well I just don't want to seem harsh or rude or like I am putting anyone off. I really hate disappointing people. I want to participate but I am the type of person that needs to get to know someone and trust someone. I am so happy I am getting to meet people from this community. Just a bit of nervousness here.
 
Re: 1st time attending, this is my concern

JPie1 said:
I will be attending NEST, the very 1st gathering that I have had the nerve and time to attend. For one I am nervous, I am fairly outgoing as a person but this somehow seems different as it is the one thing that I have not shared in the open. 2nd, I know bounderies will be respected, but I am also a bit fearful of people approaching me and asking me to participate being it might take me a bit to warm up to this, well I just don't want to seem harsh or rude or like I am putting anyone off. I really hate disappointing people. I want to participate but I am the type of person that needs to get to know someone and trust someone. I am so happy I am getting to meet people from this community. Just a bit of nervousness here.


Well, Judy, JPie, You will at least KNOW one person at the Gathering whom you are "friends" with and have a level of trust with.
ME.
Stick with me and Patti till you are comfy. We'll protect you.
However, I know quite a few of the folks attending and you will have NO problem at all.


TTD
 
shall I wear sleeveless sundress?

by the way, what do people usually attire themselves in for functions like this?

Oh I do want to have a go at being a participant, both as a ler and a lee. But as far as the lee thing is concerned I think I would only feel comfortable with one or two of my closet friends here at 1st. But I definitely would LOVE to do the tickling....will I have takers? ;-)

JPie...:devil:
 
an interesting dilemma?

JPie seems wary of having to turn down peoples requests to "play" while others (e.g., Mimi and njjen) have alluded to concerns that there would be too few requests for them to "play." Clearly, in this case, the quandry is that whatever behavior pleases one nervous attendee may make the other feel more uncomfortable.

Having been to only one (WCG) gathering, and having been quite nervous at the time, I couldn't imagine just asking a woman there I barely knew if she would like to be tickled. Just not my style. Either she offers/volunteers or it would just never happen. That attitude could make some women think they are being snubbed.

Aside:
My experience was a good one. I met some nice people. I relaxed a bit and got to play a little when the time was right, and someone volunteered to be tickled by any/all comers. 😎

So, out of curiosity, how are these competing concerns addressed at gatherings? Assuming you have just met someone there, does etiquette state that one should never ask someone else if they'd like to be tickled...or is it that they should and just be ready to accept their first "No" as final?
 
As I have mentioned in earlier posts, I find tickling to be a very private thing. It's nice to hear that many of you feel the same, and some even stick to being solely an observer. I can't say what I would be like at a gathering. There would have to be a great feeling of trust. One specific fear I have is that I would really be pressured into BEING tickled, when I am generally most happy as a ler. I am a very petite, young looking woman that I feel will be desirable to lers! Silly huh. I just don't want any unneccesary pressure at a place that I already feel nervous!:angel: :blush:
 
Re: an interesting dilemma?

mpath said:
JPie seems wary of having to turn down peoples requests to "play" while others (e.g., Mimi and njjen) have alluded to concerns that there would be too few requests for them to "play." Clearly, in this case, the quandry is that whatever behavior pleases one nervous attendee may make the other feel more uncomfortable.

So, out of curiosity, how are these competing concerns addressed at gatherings? Assuming you have just met someone there, does etiquette state that one should never ask someone else if they'd like to be tickled...or is it that they should and just be ready to accept their first "No" as final?


What a great point Mpath! One of the prevailing misconceptions I've come across is that EVERY person who shows up at a gathering, is there to play. Some may be this way, but plenty are not. I rarely play at gatherings, and it never occured to me that I might be unintentionally giving the impression someone wasn't desirable. As far as addressing that situation... unless it is brought up prior to attending, I'm not really sure how that could be done effectively.

Bickee, I don't think your fear is a silly one. I know many gatherings have a certain protocol where that sort of behavior is dealt with immediately.
 
Once again, I have only attended one gathering and I don't know how much of a typical gathering it was, but anyways..

My expectations going in were.. and I have admitted this before to other attendees.. along the lines of total terror. :wow: I was nervous both about the idea of boundaries being respected, and that we would disappoint others by our lack of participation. See, I totally did not expect to participate, figuring to find my own comfy chair in a corner and observe. Contrary to anything you have seen online or at the gathering, I do tend to lean towards being an introvert unless I am among people who make me feel very comfortable.

I was made to feel that way within 10 minutes of arriving..

It did seem to me that through online teasing, etc, quite a few "appointments", official or otherwise, had been aranged prior to the gathering.. Others were "group" scenes such as TTD's, where my status as a female secured me a role... if I wanted it. (I did) 😉 Others were arranged throughout the day very naturally.. No one at the gathering seemed to feel anything other than totally at ease.. That is, unless they were a Rams fan. 😛

Since I already mentioned how horribly nervous I was, and how little expectation I had of participating, you might wonder why I went at all.. It was just as has been said previously in the thread.. to meet others.. the rest just kind of happened on its own.. And for those who are wondering about the whole sexual thing.. tickling is HIGHLY sexual to me.. however, it's just.... different.... in this case... don't know how else to explain it.. *shrug*

introvert, huh? 😀
 
The attire for the gatherings is basically whatever you're comfortable in. I'll be sending out more information about that soon to everyone who's received a confirmation. But I've generally just worn slacks and a blouse to past NESTs and gatherings. Other ladies wear shorts or dresses... it's really what ever is comfortable for you.

As far as knowing people... We're going to have a cocktail party the day before so folks can meet prior to the gathering. That way we're in a "safe" environment where no tickling will be going on and people can just talk to each other and get to know each other. I'm hoping that will ease some of the concerns but it won't ease them all I know. It's just scary. And everyone going has lots of the same fears although many of us have met before so we might appear more relaxed on the outside but we still have the butterflies on the inside.
 
GREAT THREAD!

I fully remember the stress-tinged thoughts that are associated with a first time attendance:

I don't know these people other than online.
They could all be freaks.
They are going to think I'm wierd.
They all know what is going on and I don't.
I don't want to emabarrass myself.
What will I talk about?
Will my face turn beet red the first time I actually SEE the tickling?
Will someone try to tie me up? (even if you like that, it's a hard one with strangers)
What if I only want to watch?
What if I only want to have coffee and talk?
What if......??

All those what if's for me were dispelled by the fact that I was a cohost at the first gathering I attended. It was a first time fpor her too! We were brave! She more so than I, as it was at her house! We were as cool as cucumbers...giggle...or so we think. 😛

In the end, the facts for me were more soothing than the questions:

They only know each other from online too.
They could all be freaks just like me! They are there for the same reasons as me.
They are as freaked as I am about doing something wrong . Who cares who gets the pink cheeks first? 😉
Someone did tie me up, but it was all discussed openly first.
Sometimes we watch, sometimes we play. It depends more on mood than anything.
Some folks at gatherings only go to participate in live chats.

All that gobbly gook being said, it's just this....when you walk into a room full of folks who are all into tickling, it's like being part of a secret club. You go in instantly having something in common with every single person you see. That's a pretty cool feeling.

Jo
 
This may sound like a dumb question

To me tickling is a very private affair. Yes I can tickle socially, if that is what it is called, to share in some fun, and hopefully not be a party pooper. My question is, as far as the "playing" is concerned what precautions are taken so outsiders don't hear loud screams and get the local SWAT team. I have been in lots of motels over the years and in most you can hear your next door neighbor talk at a normal decibel. The last thing I would want is a bunch of police breaking down the door, rescueing what appeared to be a woman being abused. I know it sounds naive, but even if I were not involved in the playing, I would hate to make the next day's headlines on a false police raid. Also does the hosting facility know about the reason for our gathering. Are there signs in the lobbies saying "Ticklers Welcome" or is it a very private meeting. Just some concerns.
 
Along the lines of "safety"...

If, at any event, from NEST to the WCG, if you're bein' pressured into ANYTHING, especially physically, make it clear to the host, and those around you. A simple "Help!" will find you a number of very aggressive defenders. None of us like seein' our guests mistreated, after all.

If you show, and you feel ANYONE is steppin' out of bounds, come to Max, me, Jan, or anyone else helpin' the host to run things, and they'll stop the problem. Folks misbehavin' will be removed, in most gatherings. Haven't seen a problem at a gathering in quite some time.

That last time, though, had misbehaviors get to me days later.

Tell folks there, then, that someone's doin' inappropriate things. Trust me when I say that there are many of us that react REALLY poorly towards those folks pawin' the new folk.

In some cases, mind ya, such activity is it's own punishment. Touch QB, for instance, and the response is quite violent, even when it's friends, and they're ALLOWED to touch her. 😉

It's normal t'be nervous in a "first time" social circumstance. Find those of us whose handles you know, and introduce yourself. You've got a friend the moment you do, more oft than not.

dvnc
 
Re: This may sound like a dumb question

mysterytic said:
My question is, as far as the "playing" is concerned what precautions are taken so outsiders don't hear loud screams and get the local SWAT team. I have been in lots of motels over the years and in most you can hear your next door neighbor talk at a normal decibel. The last thing I would want is a bunch of police breaking down the door, rescueing what appeared to be a woman being abused. I know it sounds naive, but even if I were not involved in the playing, I would hate to make the next day's headlines on a false police raid. Also does the hosting facility know about the reason for our gathering. Are there signs in the lobbies saying "Ticklers Welcome" or is it a very private meeting. Just some concerns.

LOL. It has been said that when I am being tickled you can hear me on another coast. I don't deny being loud. In the 7 gatherings I have attended, NOT ONCE, was there even a mild complaint by any nieghbors, the hotel/motel or the police.

Jen
 
I just wanted to thank Jen for this post. It has made me realize that others have the same fears that I do. It's nice to get it all out in the open and discuss it. 🙂
 
Trying to Tickle me when I'm not in bondage is just plain dangerous.

As far as asking/telling someone you want to play a simple "no thank you" is enough. If you might be willing to play later just tell them to check back with you later. Or you can always approach them later and tell them that if they'd like to play now you'd like to do that too.

It's simple courtesy both as the asker and the receiver. It's ok to say no and change your mind later. I've literally entered a gathering and been asked to play immediately. I was tired after driving so far and wanted time to just talk to the other folks and relax before play time. We did play later on and no feelings were hurt. I explained that I needed some time to relax and they understood just fine.

And as DVNC said... Just check with one of us at the NEST if you have any problems. I really don't anticipate any based on my three previous NESTs but there's always a first time and it will be handled quietly and diplomatically if that should happen.
 
fear factor of the obvious kind

Even though I have been invited, I have never been able to attend. One fear for me if I was ever able to bribe my friends at Delta for flight passes is this, when I witness or act in a scene it is very sexual for me and it would be obvious to all. I know this might not be a problem to some but it would be most embarrassing for me to walk around with wood for that long. I don't know if this has ever happened to another but it would concern me.
 
Sir Bear "raises" some concerns here that I should address. Sorry about the pun. It was way too obvious. I don't know about other Gatherings, but at NEST we have a Clothes-On policy. People do not walk around in the nude. So I suggest you "handle" yourself (but don't handle yourself) in anyway you would normally do so if you were in a shopping mall and a hot girl walked by.

I still think that people feel like this is a orgy of nude, tickling bodies grabbing people into their pile of tickling, nude madness. LOL. Still others feel it may be a bunch of horny guys walking around with their hands in their pants trying to find at least one women in the crowd.

This is certainly not directed to any one post. I am generalizing.

The true fact is, that NEST is usually alot of amazingly normal people having the best time of their lives, chatting about tickling and being amazed that they can be in a social situation and speak aloud about these things. When they get to see a demo of someone tied up and tickled they might be embarrassed or excited or laugh along. You never know how you might react. The place is so big that if you feel a little uncomfortable you can sit in the lounge or go into the eating area and get yourself some free food. It is such a no-pressure situation, that is why people constantly ask me "when is the next NEST?". It's downright addictive. It's like an incredible vacation!

So far, we have about 80 people coming. This breaks our previous record of 60. And it's still only February!!! By May, who knows?

This is not merely a one day event. People will be coming in early and leaving late. NEST for me is usually a week-long event. I am so excited about it I can't wait!!!!

Keep voicing your concerns. They are all valid. I want everyone in this Community to come out and have a great time. So do not hesistate to post a concern or question on this forum or you can write to me at: [email protected] or to a real live female, Jan at: [email protected]. We promise to answer your concerns and put your minds at ease.

Max
 
Follow-Up Re: fear factor of the obvious kind

I want to open with the fact that while I have never had the pleasure of attending a NEST and that while this year will be no exception to that track record, unfortunately, I have heard nothing but high praise and acclaim for past NESTs from pretty reliable sources who have had first-hand experience with them.

Max, DVNC, and QBWeaver, this is YOUR gig and I do not want to sound like I am trying to micromanage it. Heaven knows, you (and others) were great in helping to support and even moderate SBG1, and for that I shall be eternally grateful and I simply have much more respect for you all than that. So correct Me anytime you feel it necessary here.

I just wanted to offer My extended perspective to SirBear's concerns, because I deal with these "feelings and emotions" at every gathering I attend, subjectively, since I feel a special connection between tickling and sexual arousal myself. Being blessed to be in an LTR with njjen, she and I have agreed that if a "spark is caught" from tickling another, we simply "bring it home" and act on it in that more appropriate setting.

It is worth rementioning that there is a "no-nudity" policy at NEST, which will help address the onset of SOME of those potentially sexual feelings. Still further respect and consideration is due to those who will tickle and submit to tickles, in attendance, who do not admonish ANY connection between tickling and sexuality. It is a matter of prerogative and respect accordingly for both sides of this issue. It has been my experience that a special modicum of respect is due those of that "asexual tickle" mindset, just as the "sexual mindset" ticklephiles hope for that same respect is return. IN ANY EVENT, my experience tells me that a SUCCESSFUL tickling event is NOT an OPEN FORUM to become sexually active for ANYONE who claims a connection between tickling and sexuality.

SirBear, there are MANY females in this community that know I derive "sexual excitement" from tickling them at a gathering, or at any other setting. I also go on to point out (in the same breath) that I WILL NEVER act on those feelings JUST because they occur inside of me. They also know I am in a committed, but somewhat open, LTR with jen, who understands and applauds the "sparks" I bring home after such an event. Still, I make it VERY CLEAR that I DO NOT EXPECT ANY OF THEM to become intimate with me, just because I tickle them and experience arousal from it. While no single approach is necessarily correct for this situation, I have found that BRUTAL HONESTY upfront, mixed with respect and some compassion for the female's perspective on my mindset has averted ANY potentially embarassing situation I may have otherwise felt thrust into in such a communal tickling setting. I do much of this online, in private messaging, and preface my discussion with mention of the fact that I AM NOT INTENDING to be inappropriate with them, so please don't take this wrong, I just don't want to unpleasantly surprise them in person. Some discretion is involved here too, such as knowing that the object of your discussion is emotionally and morally capable of having such a frank discussion comfortably. Probably would make sense that you would be best served not to even attempt tickling with someone who lacks the ability to even discuss it with you and/or understand your potential reaction. And YES, I do sometimes get rejected for a tickle, taking this approach. But I feel that I would ultimately have had issue tickling with such a person anyhow, and now I have avoided that problem proactively. What often happens, is that those who decline to tickle with me after such a disclosure UPFRONT, often have a change of heart after watching me tickle with others and realize that I was trying to be considerate of their reaction, and not inappropriate as a select few initially surmize.

Above all, SirBear, be yourself, but be considerate, respectful, (and even appreciative) of those who tickle and ESPECIALLY those who extend enough blind trust to submit to a tickle with you, and you will likely be appreciated and invited to do future scenes (in some cases, where chemistry is good, you MIGHT even be asked to tickle privately from the gathering environment, where you have the opportunity to change the rules, by mutual discussion and agreeement!)

My $.02, after inflation! LOL!!!

*GuitarPeteTklr shreds his way back into tickling oblivion*
 
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I'm adding my $.02 as well here giving you a woman's point of view.

Tickling for me is often quite sexual. In private scenes I can enjoy it to it's fullest. At gatherings I find that the sexual aspects are tempered. I still get excited but in a different way. I suppose I just internalize it.

It sure gives me lots of energy to do stuff around the house! We've just gotten done with new double-paned windows, new garage door, new paint inside and outside soon, new landscaping in back... So it's beneficial all around! LOL

But seriously, the physical reactions are normal and to be expected. It's a sexual charge for lots of us both male and female. How you deal with it is just the same way you'd deal with that reaction in normal life if you're out and about.

At NEST, and at our local gatherings, we remain clothed. We don't allow any touching or tickling an any area that would not normally be covered by a bikini and a top for the ladies and shorts for the guys. There are physical reactions often but they are not acted upon at the gathering. We have an understanding, and it's in our rules, that people will take that fun home with them to enjoy privately. And it's understood before hand that although there might be a visable physical reaction that it will not translate to anything inappropriate at the gathering. I know, from my point of view (pun intended) that I take the physical reaction as a compliment.

It's hard enough for the ladies to feel comfortable coming to a gathering without the feeling they're going to be molested if they submit to tickling. That's why we're so strict with that rule. We want the ladies to know they will be treated as ladies. But we also want the guys to know they will be treated as gentlemen.

Before you engage in play it's important to go over some of the boundaries and rules. Kinda like BDSM 101. At NEST and our gatherings you will generally have one of the hosts or moderators readily accessible should there be any concerns. And before play time we pull the group together to go over the rules and address any questions or concerns before hand.

Just discuss all of this with your "lee" or "ler" and let them know that you might have that reaction. Reassure them that nothing will happen that could be considered "out of line". If you play nice and if the chemistry is right who knows... you might be invited for a private scene where the rules can be renegotiated. But if you don't end up in a private scene away from the party that's just the way it is. It shouldn't be taken as disrespectful to you at all. There could be hundreds of reason why that have nothing to do with you so don't fret if it doesn't happen.

Gatherings are scary. Some people like them and some do not. That's ok. Either way is fine. It's all about personal choice.

The main rule we all learned in Kindergarten. Play nice.
 
Yeah, what she said. Good job sayin' such, QBWeaver!

Oh, and btw, Pete, thanks, but NEST ain't my efforts, it's those of Max, and now of QBWeaver. I'm an attendee, there, and enjoy such. I'll help Max with anything, natch, 'cause that's my way, but I'll take no credit for his event and it's continued success, 'cause it's not due me. Thanks, though, for such consideration.

I never do notice anyone walkin' about with some crazed protrusion from their drawers, either, but then again, I ain't lookin'. Don't much care to, either. What's goin' on in another man's drawers ain't my biz, and only a lowlife would walk from an gathering with word to spread of such things, y'know?

dvnc
 
Actually I've never seen that either. Maybe you guys are just really good at hiding the goods.

heheheheheheh!~
 
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