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This is kind of a follow-up to the reply I made to Celtic Emperor's artist discussion thread. I didn't know where else to post this and figured it would make most sense to put it here. Basically, how does it make you feel or what are your thoughts on the fact that there are no doubt a lot of people masterbating to your artwork? ROFLMAO!!

Many have thought it, I'm the first to come right out and say it!!!

I mean I have recieved one or two E-mails talking about how excited certain people have gotten with my art (one in particular was a bit TOO graphic) and it really does run through my head a lot. Something I've created provides sexual satisfaction for at least a few people out there...both flattering and unsettling at the same time...heh..I mean there is a definite sense of power there, but at the same time I think about the TYPE of people if effects...and become nauseated...
😛

::shrugs:: whatever...now you know why I have certain issues with showing my original characters in more adult situations...other than just having respect for my girls...😀
 
DO you have to be a drawing artist to respond, or are writers allowed to reply also?
 
... and how many artists masterbate to their own artwork?
(And: When do they masterbate? After they've drawn a sketch? Or while they're still drawing? Hm...)
 
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Well, I'm not an artist at all, but that's the whole reason I started doing stuffs for the community. I've been trying to draw, but that doesn't work out too well. I've written stories, and they're prolly floating around somewhere online...Also, there are quite a few foot pics people have imed me unstoppably asking for, so yea. Hope that helps.
 
Back during the day when I could draw to my liking, I made several pieces of.."graphic" work which people "enjoyed"..so to speak...

I think it's just because your fulfilling fantasys that some people know they will never see in reality...

Cartoons are a gateway to a universe where anything can happen, and people can see anything they demand...Whether it be a climactic battle between Jill Valentine and Albert Wesker....or a tickling pic of some sort...it's almost always special to someone out there..
 
ah, what the hell, I'll respond......

....i'm no artist, i guess I fall into the other category of people that really "appreciate" the art that's posted here and elsewhere.....and I won't lie, I don't download these pics to just stare at them and say, "hey, that's some kick ass shading he did on that shirt!" but I digress......

.....personally, I think that all of the artists here should feel a great sense of pride that they bring joy to a great number of people.....you use your talents to project images to us that the video companies can't, or aren't able to due to legal constraints (cheshire's tickling and toking pic comes to mind, a long time fantasy for me) and for that, I salute you, which is good, because I only need one hand to do that.......

so, in conclusion, I guess all I can really say is.....masterbate on, fellow TMF'ers, masterbate on.......
 
Cheshire Cat said:
This is kind of a follow-up to the reply I made to Celtic Emperor's artist discussion thread. I didn't know where else to post this and figured it would make most sense to put it here. Basically, how does it make you feel or what are your thoughts on the fact that there are no doubt a lot of people masterbating to your artwork? ROFLMAO!!

Many have thought it, I'm the first to come right out and say it!!!

I mean I have recieved one or two E-mails talking about how excited certain people have gotten with my art (one in particular was a bit TOO graphic) and it really does run through my head a lot. Something I've created provides sexual satisfaction for at least a few people out there...both flattering and unsettling at the same time...heh..I mean there is a definite sense of power there, but at the same time I think about the TYPE of people if effects...and become nauseated...
😛

::shrugs:: whatever...now you know why I have certain issues with showing my original characters in more adult situations...other than just having respect for my girls...😀

Actually, I believe I'm the one that came out and said it first. It was in one of GC'S threads, where I was replying to Tiger about his conflicting feelings about being here and about viewing the artwork. It was then myself who mentioned the masturbation part and how unsettling that would be to know that.

In any light, I'll repeat and in more detail than before.

The way I see it, people that would come to this community for the sole purpose of looking at tickling and fetish material are most likely doing so because they are attracted to it, and this may or may not have anything to do with the actual quality of the art or the skill of the artist him/herself. I've conducted tests, observations really, to see what hooks people and what doesn't.

From these observations, it is very evident that people here really go for foot licking, toe sucking, tickle torture as opposed to tickle teasing, and even genital tickling and/or nude tickling.

These are very sensual if not down right sexual themes to have in any artwork. Therefore its my observation there is a big likelyhood that people do masturbate or at least get sexually turned on by this type of material. Also add in the fact that this is an adult website catering to fetishes of the tickling kind. That makes the TMF and other places a focal point, a center of gravity for these like-minded people to wet their appetite.

Now, on to me.

As I said, to know that some or alot of people probably are masturbating to my artwork is both unsettling and uncomfortable and yet is quite possibly one of the upmost signs of respect, praise, and honor I could recieve (albeit a bit nasty) aside from verbal communication which is what each of us artists rely on primarily to both feed our esteem and get feedback/critques.

Personally, I do not create my artwork with the mindset to get people off. I do not create my artwork so it can be looked upon in a sexual way. I do not create my artwork the way I do so it can be misunderstood, manipulated or ill-concieved on their part.

Alas, all art is different things to different people, and the fact that I draw fetish material also is like putting a bulls-eye on my shirt and declaring open season. I am a magnet for those whose sexual satisfactions lie in seeing my artwork in such a way.

While it has never been my intent to seduce, use, or play off of someone else's emotions, feelings or desires, my art (the fetish stuff that is) does that for me regardless. Because of its very nature it caters to the minds of people that would look at it in a sexual way, or somehow need it to help manifest a fantasy of their own.

The big thing about art, which makes it unlike actual real pictures, is that anything goes. You can draw the impossible. You can draw what would otherwise not happen in reality. Thats why anime hentai exists. There are no limits, and it serves to cater and feed off the desires, dreams, and sick fantasies of young and old everywhere. The fact that it is japanese animation makes it a genre that trancends all age groups and caters to all.

I also mentioned how one artist in our community, who is reletively inactive, mentioned to me in private that he masturbates to his OWN artwork. The thought of that made me sick. First, his art wasn't that great, so his fantasies are probably really simple and don't ask much of his imagination. Second, the idea that someone would use any talent they had, a talent they had to develop at some juncture just to sexually satisfy themselves makes them a deviant in my eyes. Theres nothing wrong with possibly getting turned on by it, once you've stood back and look at a piece well done and well drawn, because that would only be natural, regardless of the fact that you yourself drew it. But to conciously masturbate to your own artwork when there are other reasons and things to masturbate over just makes it a very deviant act. Mainly because you are soiling and degrading yourself as an artist. Its like literally pissing on yourself and letting that make what drives you on to create more. Like thats your fuel, thats your passion.

I myself have recieved e-mails, PMs and instant messeges both congradulating me and thanking me for not only well drawn pictures, but for the excitement that the picture(s) gave them. And these messeges have been sent or recieved whether or not the person had requested something and was thanking me for it.

While I've yet for someone to openly tell me "I really loved your work man, it gave me a good orgasm", I doubt I ever will. Mostly because it would take guts and a total lack of self-respect to tell me that. Also, this brings up the negative aspect of all of this. And that is that it could make me feel cheap and used.

I'm sure its crossed all our minds, as it should. I sure as hell don't want to just be someone's lust and someone's tool to get off on. Its a total sign of disrespect to both me, my art, and to what degrees I express myself in my art. To whack it with a total disregard to the person who drew it, and a total surrenderance to indifference would make me feel cheap. Like I'm nothing more than a whore to them.

Just like women should be able to dress sexy but still be classy by nature, I should be able to draw this fetish material without having to worry about my art just being looked at like a piece of 'digital meat'. Its a lack of disprespect to me and my art, and whats sad about it is I can't do anything about it.

Surely, there are two extremes to which someone could masturbate to my art. There is the one that would do so with consideration to my feelings and my art, and take it to the extreme of masturbating to it, and then theres the extreme of not giving a damn who or what drew the picture, what the hell it looks like, what the hell the characters are, who they are, what the hell is going on, what the hell kind of feelings are going on in the picture, and to hell with the time, effort, and dedicationp put into it, and just jacking it like a complete deviant because they need their damn fix and they need it now!

While the idea of people masturbating to my art is uncomfortable regardless of which extreme is taken or used, needless to say it would be less offensive to me personally, and less disgraceful to do so in a more respectful and appriciative manner.
 
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Celtic_Emperor said:
Actually, I believe I'm the one that came out and said it first. It was in one of GC'S threads, where I was replying to Tiger about his conflicting feelings about being here and about viewing the artwork. It was then myself who mentioned the masturbation part and how unsettling that would be to know that.

In any light, I'll repeat and in more detail than before.

The way I see it, people that would come to this community for the sole purpose of looking at ticking and fetish material are most likely doing so because they are attracted to it, and this may or may not have anything to do with the actual quality of the art or the skill of the artist him/herself. I've conducted tests, observations really, to see what hooks people and what doesn't.

From these observations, it is very evident that people here really go for foot licking, toe sucking, tickle torture as opposed to tickle teasing, and even genital tickling and/or nude tickling.

These are very sensual if not down right sexual themes to have in any artwork. Therefore its my observation there is a big likelyhood that people do masturbate or at least get sexually turned on by this type of material. Also add in the fact that this is an adult website catering to fetishes of the tickling kind. That makes the TMF and other places a focal point, a center of gravity for these like-minded people to wet their appetite.

Now, on to me.

As I said, to know that some people probably are masturbating to my artwork is both unsettling and uncomfortable and yet is quite possibly one of the upmost signs of respect, praise, and honor I could recieve (albeit a bit nasty) aside from verbal communication which is what each of us artists rely on primarily to both feed our esteem and get feedback/critques.

Personally, I do not create my artwork with the mindset to get people off. I do not create my artwork so it can be looked upon in a sexual way. I do not creat my artwork the way I do so it can be misunderstood, manipulated or ill-concieved on their part.

Alas, all art is different things to different people, and the fact that I draw fetish material also is like putting a bullseye on my shirt and declaring open seasons. I am a magnet for those whose sexual satisfactions lie in seeing my artwork in such a way.

While it has never been my intent to seduce, use, or play off of someone else's emotions, feelings or desires, my art (the fetish stuff that is) does that for me regardless. Because of its very nature it caters to the minds of people that would look at it in a sexual way, or somehow need it to help manifest a fantasy of their own.

The big thing about art, which makes it unlike actual real pictures, is that anything goes. You can draw the impossible. You can draw what would otherwise not happen in reality. Thats why anime hentai exists. There are no limits, and it serves to cater and feed off the desires, dream, and sick fantasies of young and old everywhere. The fact that it is japanese animation makes it a genre that trancends all age groups and caters to all.

I also mentioned how one artist in our community, who is reletively inactive, mentioned to me in private that he masturbates to his OWN artwork. The thought of that made me sick. First, his art wasn't that great, so his fantasies are probably really simple and don't ask much of his imagination. Second, the idea that someone would use any talent they had, a talent they had to develop at some juncture just to sexually satisfy themselves makes them a deviant in my eyes. Theres nothing wrong with possibly turned on by it, once you've stood back and look at a piece well done and well drawn, because that would only be natural, regardless of the fact that you yourself drew it. But to conciously masturbate to your own artwork when there are other reasons and things to masturbate over just makes it a very deviant act. Mainly because you are soiling yourself as an artist. Its like literally pissing on yourself and letting that make what drives you on to create more.

I myself have recieved e-mails, PMs and instant messeges both congradulating me and thanking me for not only a well drawn picture, but for the excitement that the picture(s) gave them. And these messeges have been sent or recieved whether or not the person had requested something and was thanking me for it.

While I've yet for someone to openly tell me "I really loved your work man, it gave me a good orgasm", I doubt I ever will. Mostly because it would take guts and a total lack of self-respect to tell me that. Also, this brings up the negative aspect of all of this. And that is that it could make me feel cheap and used.

I'm sure its crossed all our minds, as it should. I sure as hell don't want to just be someone's lust and someone's tool to get off on. Its a total sign of disrespect to both me, my art, and to what degrees I express myself in my art. To whack it with a total disregard to the person who drew it, and a total surrenderance to indifference would make me feel cheap. Like I'm nothing more than a whore to them.

Just like women should be able to dress sexy but still be classy, I should be able to draw this fetish material without having to worry about my art just being looked at like a piece of 'digital meat'. Its a lack of disprespect to me and my art, and whats sad about it is I can't do anything about it.

Surely, there are two extremes to which someone could masturbate to my art. There is the one that would do so with consideration to my feelings and my art, and take it to the extreme of masturbating to it, and then theres the extreme of not giving a damn who or what drew the picture, what the hell it looks like, what the hell the characters are, what the hell is going on, what the hell kind of feelings are going on in the picture, and just jacking it like a a complete deviant because they need their damn fix and they need it now!

While the idea of people masturbating to my art is uncomfortable regardless of which extreme is taken or used, needless to say it would be less offensive to me personally, and less disgraceful to do so in a more respectful and appriciative manner.

JESUS MAN!!! Can't you ever just GET TO THE POINT?!!? LOL. I can't remember ONE post you've made that was less than 2 paragraphs long...and fine, I'm sorry, YOU were the first one to say that..my mistake...oy vay...

I'll tell ya, I love ya man, I love your work and I even love your incredibly strong will that others would refer to by other less flattering terminology, but half the time I avoid your odyssey-length posts for the sake of my eyes!! LOL I find it harder to figure out what your trying to say BECAUSE you just draaaaaaaaaag it out...

I dunno...maybe I'm just tired...too much Pez...just always remember I may not always agree with everything a person says, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it....

(please for the love of god dont let this start another flame war like the sl44n3sh fiasco...)
 
Everlast said:
I salute you, which is good, because I only need one hand to do that.......

so, in conclusion, I guess all I can really say is.....masterbate on, fellow TMF'ers, masterbate on.......


You can salute me, him, or anyone period. Masturbation doesn't have to play a part at all in regards to paying respect. I'm not so sure I want to be respected this way.

As for the last comment, please don't encourage anyone. Its like working against me and not trying to make us feel any better about it or the situations. What you percieve to be respect may not always come across that way. Please try and remember that. The one's whose opinions matter the most and can be the most hurt and negatively affected by this is ours, the artists. We are the ones who carry and bare the burden for what you are doing. Its most likely on our consciences, not yours. And given how you know I feel about it now, giving shouts of encouragement is like sticking your foot out to trip me while I'm walking by carrying my burden and load. It just adds on the pressure and it doesn't make things any easier.
 
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I did get to the point CC, several times whilst making new ones. Its not my fault if you or anyone else can't keep up, read, or appriciate the level at which I wish and have every right to express myself. If you are too lazy to read what you percieve as dribble and run-off than I'm sorry. There are plenty that appriciate my thoughts and the way I choose to word them. Nothing need be changed because theres nothing wrong with me. This is a serious discussion and I will treat it as such. If you can't stand the heat you shouldn't have created the thread thinking things would go just how you planned them to. You already know how I am, so you should have expected this. Its on you, my friend.

Just like you respect me for the reasons you just stated, I respect you for the same, and others as well. Let us be at peace, because we are. The fact you would bring up the past shows you don't trust me. I trust you, so just leave it be and be done with it.

You've said your peace, and I will gladly reply to anything directed at me or something I feel stands to be quoted upon. This is a chat forum by the way. Thats what forums are for, for discussions. Its not an instant messenger or e-mail service.


EDIT: And to save anyone the trouble of calling me on it later, I'll say this also-

Some might be thinking or planning on saying something like 'well, if you don't want us to masturbate over your work then you shouldn't create fetish artwork in the first place. You're only bringing this problem on yourself.'

While I can respect sentiments like that, I cannot agree with them fully. This is because I have every right to draw something the way I want to draw it and mean how I mean it. You all have a choice in the matter of whether or not to masturbate to it. You're not being forced to do it, even though your body and hormones may be telling you otherwise. I would ask then, that you omit my art, which is an extension of me, from your masturbative fantasies. Being turned on by them isn't a problem. There are plenty of other artists here to whose artwork you can relish in masturbation with though. Just as there are people here that appriciate my art on a complete level of artistry and nothing more. Its possible to seperate the desire to masturbate from the desire to appriciate a picture in it's fullness.
 
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Celtic_Emperor said:
I did get to the point CC, several times whilst making new ones. Its not my fault if you or anyone else can't keep up, read, or appriciate the level at which I wish and have every right to express myself. If you are too lazy to read what you percieve as dribble and run-off than I'm sorry. There are plenty that appriciate my thoughts and the way I choose to word them. Nothing need be changed because theres nothing wrong with me.


Well, hello... I thought I qualified as an artist.

Inconsistent, lazy maybe... but hey, I've got my opinion to express, guys! 😀

And I'll try to get straight to the point, just for the verbally challenged. 😀 😀 😀

Just joking. You know I love you guys... in a friendly manly way. 😉


[And, hey, Damien - Yes, I spelled it right. I don't want you to confuse me with your momma. I grow a longer beard. 🙂 - well, nothing is wrong with you. Maybe letting some "humour" pour out a bit. Not really much, just enough to trick the masses. 😉 ]


So, do artists squirt on their own sketches? Hope not! Stains don't go away easy from paper, ya know? 🙂

No, really... back to serious countenance.


Being turned on by one's own art is possible - and a very cheap alternative to commissioning it to a third party.

Such a person would thus become effectively "indipendent". He/she/it/whatever would consume whatever produced.


While DJ has a "sanctity of art" approach on the matter, I have a different, sentimental point of view.

Very different POVs, yet very similar results. He wouldn't masturbate on his works because he thinks it would belittle his art [and art in general].

I am loathe to since I often have a "parent/child" relationship with my pics. To me it's like getting excited over a close relative. Yes, maybe your aunt is young and gorgeous. Maybe your sister or first cousin just look sexy - but finally, you would feel uneasy thinking of them in a sexual way.

Same applies to me and my [few] pics.


Incidentally, I have troubles making them, too.

First, I don't like [too much] to draw my heroines in distress [since they are a "part of me", and I would never paint myself in distress... 😀 ]. That's why my female chars often look warriorlike to the point of being almost manly.

Second, if the pic is sexy enough, I sometimes get distracted by it.
If it affects me too, maybe it means it's going to be "good stuff".
Yet, if I feel excited or embarassed over it, I can't complete it as easily.

Maybe it's just a particular form of Pygmalione's syndrome. 😀


So, that's why I'll be posting older stuff, next time. 😀 😀 😀


Oh, I didn't reply to the other question! Do I care if ppl jack off on my pics? Heck! No!

If you like my pics to the point of contributing for my retirement fund, well... just feel free to! Just don't get too graphical when expressing your appreciation...
I a bit squamish. 😀 😀 😀


That's it.
Reg's!
 
Thanks for posting. I was hoping you would Kalamos. I can almost always walk away with something after talking with you. Its exchanges like this that we the artists need more often. To be totally honest I don't think we talk enough to eachother. One thing is talking to a fan or viewer or replying to comments like we always do, another is talking amongst ourselves. 🙂
 
I guess my take on this is that when you post your art on the internet, you are pretty much relinquishing control of it. Doesn't matter if you stick a copyright on it. Once it's out there it's gone. There are worse things people out there could be doing with it. The most blatant case I remember was an professional cartoonist who used to post these very sexy girls done in Adobe Illustrator in a cartooning forum. He found out through another member of the forum that somebody had basically traced his work in Illustrator, changed some colors and a few details, and was passing it off as his own work in his online portfolio. Needless to say he and his lawyer went after the guy...but how many never get caught?

Do some artists spank the proverbial monkey over their own art? It's my understanding that the underground cartoonist Robert Crumb did. But, hey, he was odd in many respects. Talented, but odd.
 
Well that really sucks. I feel for the guy. Although the people here on the TMF seem a bit more understanding and respective of our rights. I personally don't show my art online at many places, so my chances of being used or copied are further reduced but still all the more likely when theres a loser going around looking for a suitable target.

Nice point, though it makes me even more wary. Although then again, my work can't be that good that someone would want to steal it, especially if its one of the fetish pictures. Unless you are going to take the time to learn to draw like me, and mimmick me in all artistic ways, you'd only be getting away with one picture at a time. It just doesn't seem worth it. Although why am I trying to rationalize with the loser that would do this? LOL 😀
 
You have an advantage CE in this regard since your art at this point is being done in pencil. That makes it difficult to mimic exactly since no two people hold a pencil quite the same way. However when two different artists are using the same commercial drawing program it can be very easy to duplicate someone else's art almost exactly since you are both basically using the same tool. So, yes, there is certainly a case to be made for good old pencil. Or brush and ink for that matter 😀
 
Fairfeather said:
You have an advantage CE in this regard since your art at this point is being done in pencil.

Yes, at this point. But not for long. 😀 *Imperial March (Darth Vader's theme) sounds* dum dum dum dum da dum dum da dum

LOL Anyways, thats a good point you make. Technology is great and all, but theres just another screw-job waiting because of it. :sowrong:
 
First off, kudos to all involved for keeping a touchy (really touchy for a moment there) subject going along without resorting to flames. I've said it time and again, the Art Forum is where I have to do the least Moderating, as the artists and fans generally know when a point has been made. Thanks. 😀

Ok, on to masturbating. I mean, not me...well, not right at the moment...not ON TO masturbating like "go ahead and fire it up!"...umm...like...you get the point. 😎

I don't really think about it while I'm creating my artwork. If that's someone's choice, go for it. I mean, some people masturbate to photos of Bea Arthur fer shitssake...to each thier own. The stuff I post here tends to be lighter and more "fluffy" than the stuff I put in my projects, but I still try to create sex appeal with the girls I have as recurring characters. Kinda the point, ain't it?

Actually, when it comes to the business aspect of my projects, I kinda depend on it. I mean, it's $14.95 if you wanna whack off to it and $14.95 if you want to appreciate the deep connection the artist has with color and emotion in a post-linear context. 😀

It's all good.

If someone gains any level of enjoyment from my work (physical, psychological, artistic) I'm happy, job complete.
 
This will be short.

I don't mind what people do when they look at my pictures.

I have realised the reason why I'm so poor at handling requests (and yes, I did read the post about requests):

Most of the time, I draw my pictures for myself. (No, not in the masturbatory sense.)

Selfish? Maybe. But if my heart and mind aren't into the project, it won't be good. Period. That's why I rarely put artwork up here.

To reiterate: No, I don't care if people masturbate to my material.

I do care when people modify and redistribute it, though.

~Syn
 
Synful Pryde said:
I do care when people modify and redistribute it, though.

That's funny: I was about to throw in my 2 eurocents on the matter, then I chose against it. 😀

That's because I have mixed feelings about it. While I don't like ppl tampering with my pics, it really depends on the final result.

If they just cropped my "K" and posted my pics without giving credit, well, though luck: I'll never know. Fairfeather has a good point, here: once you put something online, you are effectively forfeiting any right on it. Ppl can do whatever they want. And we can do little beside threatening legal action [or in my - delicate - case, physical harm 😀 😀 😀 ].

[Besides, it has happened to me with my non-tk art. A guy asked me to put a pic on a rpg somewhere. No big deal. The catch was he wanted to crop my site address from it for "graphical reasons". I never replied. I suppose he went along and used it...]


On the other hand, if someone manipulated my works and produced a pleasing pic, I would consider it a tribute.

Of course I would beat him/her/it senseless with a metal pole, thereafter. But it would be a reassuring experience. 😀 😀 😀


[Hope this won't sparkle a flame war. No, really! I mean it! 😀 ]


Reg's!
 
Hmm... for a stoned-out hippie, you do seem rather uptight about the whole matter, CC. Personally, I suggest you just laugh it off, since the themes of your art are just as strange as the people who sent you those e-mails. I've never encountered e-mails like this. Thing is, my art lacks nudity, but does have plenty of foot fetish themes to go with the tickling. If someone ever said they wank off over seeing my art, I'll be like "let it be, man". Wouldn't offend or disturb me a bit 'cos I'm pretty open-minded, although I would laugh about it and look at my art in a rather different light... and laugh even more!

Oh, and please try to keep your replies short! Especially you, C_E. I have an extremely low attention span, and I can't be arsed to read something that resembles a constitutional bill, only with discussion about tickling art. Just speak your peace. Agh... reading... hate...
 
My artwork is created with the mindset that its to have at least the general appeal that the fetishist community would like to see. Other than that, I don't think my work crosses any lines or would tempt anyone to masturbate to it anyways.

My work isn'y very provocative, as some of yours' are at times. Although perhaps its true what I've been saying all along basically- "What you don't give them, they want more of. Its all about teasing and prolonging their anticipation."

In that sense, I am perhaps the most cruel artist we have here. 😀

But this works for me because it allows me to draw what I feel comfortable drawing while having the characters still have a sexy, cute, or teasing charm to them. And hey, theres obviously a method to my ways, because I'm personally getting results from doing it this way. Its specifically my thing. I don't think it would work for anyone else here because it seems I'm the underdog when it comes to how provocative and sexual I allow my art to become.

I'm not putting you guys down, because I appriciate that someone is willing to give the masses exactly what they want. If we work together as a unified force, we will fill in the gaps our individual ways leave empty. I'm beneficial to you, and vice-versa. We are better off in this way than in any other, I believe, because we cover an even wider range of tastes and flavours in our art. We satisfy both we what personally desire, and what the people want. All is good, in this sense. 🙂
 
um......yeah......

....masterbate on! 😀

.....sorry, couldn't resist....man, I swear, you guys get your feathers ruffled so easily around here.....pun definitely intended, now that I think about it.....but seriously, I didn't mean any disrespect encouraging people to wax the carrot.....and if it makes you feel any better celtic, I've never gotten off to any of your art......well, whatever, later people........
 
I take absolutely no offense to that. Its a relief to me actually. Bye, then. 🙂
 
Well, I didn't perceive the whole matter as an issue.

This forum, and TT, and other similar places, ARE adult sites, after all. I suppose "it comes with the territory", if I am not misquoting. 🙂

Ppl come here for fetish contents. We - or anybody capable to - offer fetish art. It's clearly a demand-offer situation.

Maybe I was lucky, in this regard. Being new to the scene, sure helps: I don't have a large "fanbase" which routinely mails me, so I don't know how they really feel about my pics.

From what I could gather, from the requests I've received so far, ppl DO consider my pics erotic. Fetish erotic, mind you, but erotic nevertheless.

This is a kind to answer to CC and DJ: no matter what you [we] do, ppl with a certain fetish can and will get excited over "innocent" pics.

It's the same thing when somebody posts a link to a mainstream pic. The pic is innocent enough [else it wouldn't be mainstream] BUT for fetishists it IS sexual.

Fetishism, after all, isn't about something BEING sexual in itself, but SEEMING sexual to the individual. 😀

So, to foot-fetishists, DJ's fully clothed chars "work" even more than vanilla sex pics, with little or no mystery about them.

To a foot-fetishist, a nude bomb-shell with shoes might be a turn off. The same woman, fully dressed but barefoot, would be tenfold sexier.

Same applies with tickling: that's why many claim they don't like commercial vids - too much nudity, too little action.

My only ... gripe? No, not really, just a small dissenting feeling is about DJ's idea of artists working together.

I'm an individualist at heart, so I can't see a good reason for limiting anybody's art. Yes, I understand his idea of having artists "covering" the full spectrum. But while this strategy would be good for commercial art, we don't produce. We just draw. 🙂

If I could do something in Chimp's vein, or Fair Feather's or Cheshire's [or DJ's, or anybody's else] I wouldn't see a good reason not to.
If it was within my technical capabilities, that is. 🙂

I think I know DJ's feelings on this matter. I have a "broader" approach to it. It's not stealing one's art or scene [to make things simpler]. It's just experimenting. If somebody did a pic in my style, maybe I'd refine my technique, or get inspiration from it.

Since nobody's paying us, I feel we should be free to try.

I don't believe much in the "sanctity" of art. I consider it a tool, which allows me to express myself and make something concrete.

Are we lucky? Yes, we are. We can make real what other can only visualize.

Are we special, different or anything? I don't know about you.
Personally, I don't feel that special just because I can draw a straight line. 😀


So, my longwinded 2 eurocents, just to make the readers' vision worse! 😀 😀 😀

Reg's.
 
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