@ Kalamos- Since you came right out and just said it, I might as well tell you something you might not have known or observed well enough about that situation. Its not merely as simple as you make it to be.
Basically, he copied me, said it was his idea, denied it when called on it, and only admitted it after a feud. What pissed me off about it wasn't actually the picture. It was the level of his denial and pure malice and spite in the matter. He knew me at the time though claimed to not know who I was, what I was talking about, and he played the role of 'ignorant foreigner'. Note people, I'm not saying foreigners are ignorant, but he sure did use his (then) poor english and spelling to his advantage.
He was beating around the bush, dodging my request for an admittance and apology, and he even went so far as to deny it still even after I provided proof for him and everyone. A short while after that he created a short, spiteful and immature comic basically taunting me and making light of the situation. I've never had that done to me before, so at that point I had snapped on him. I had tried to reason with him, but it wasn't doing any good. Its like he was deaf.
But dispite all of it, its the fact that several people, namely a few who have it out against me still obviously, sided with him, supported him, and even egged him on knowing very well it would only continue to stir the pot.
Even now, the picture is still on his group, which is fine with me, but the description says that I'm claiming rights to the characters in some way, which is completely false. Its a lie and I never said or implied that. I simply didn't find it appropriate for him to copy me and then go through alot of trouble to cover it up.
But, that was then and this is now. Him and I don't speak much but we have spoken, and, suffice to say we aren't enemies. I honestly don't have a problem with the guy, and I can see no reason to.
But some people here have a problem with me still. And by some a mean a couple. And I don't understand why. Theres no logical reason for it. I don't bring it up, and only did now because you specifically brought it back. I have never done anything to those two artists so I don't know where this deep-seeded resentment is coming from. I can only assume its because they haven't forgiven me. But really, I wasn't the one who needed to be forgiven. It was slaanesh's doing (yes, thats how you spell it, I don't know why he uses the numbers) and it was his fault and foul.
I just found it suprizing and confounding that I would be made to look like the villian when I was the victim. I don't care that it was only a fan-art picture. He used me and the picture he copied to introduce himself here. You might say he debuted at my expense, and its the methods which he used and the things he did that made it a dispicable act alltogether.
In the end Kalamos, it had very little to do with the damn picture. Looking back at it now, sure, its a piece of crap, but back then it meant alot to me and he exploited me for the fun of it. I know for a fact he did it for kicks. It wasn't an honest mistake (copying isn't a mistake), it was intentional, planned, and diliberate.
And to top it all off, the only reason I could think of at the time for why he'd want to do something like that and go through all that trouble just for me is because I happened to mention on his group, to another christian member who was asking for christian art, that slaanesh didn't draw that type of material, and that he infact had produced a satanic picture. I only mentioned this to the member, and he blew it out of proportion taking it as me meaning that hes actually a satanist and that I'm some witch hunter.
Completely obserd, silly, and a bit demented.
Once more though, him and I don't have a beef with eachother anymore. I would just as easily talk to him right now as I am talking to you and it wouldn't bother me. Now, if he were to bring this up (assuming it hadn't been brought up yet) then it would make me uneasy, only because I don't feel he gave me an honest, sincere apology for all the trouble he put through and the bad he put me in with other people by arguing with him. I can honestly say that if that event had never happened the folks who have a problem with me because of it wouldn't.
He did apologize, gave me credit for the picture, and I guess technically thats supposed to be enough. It corrects the wrong he did, but it doesn't say anything about me and it hardly made me feel any better after the lengths he went to. Sure, I was arguing and ranting and raving, but it was legitimate anger. He only played off of the situation, made it worse and didn't care.
I'm just glad that it ended in a suitable way. I find it amasing however that I had to PM the owner of this place just to get something done technically as far as the mods were concerned. They should have interveined much sooner, repremanded him, and stopped both of us. Somehow the situation was allowed to boil and fester and no one seemed to care.
On topic-
Art is supposedly "all things to all men" so go figure. I however appriciate art, not just mine, on a deeper level. Its only natural and I would encourage it. It gives you deeper insights.
Lastly, I don't give a damn how long this post was, but I do apologise for it suddenly veering off course like that. But to be perfectly honest myself, CC provoked it by insinuating I would bring it up. Granted, I did. But only after Kalamos went into detail about it. Rather than just leave it as it was, he left out some very important details, and I wouldn't want anyone ignorant or unaware of the situation to think one way about it without hearing at least my account.
I don't care for the topic, and I, most of all, more than any of you, know and feel the disgust in it having been brought up again. I'm the one who experienced it first hand, not any of you. So its easy to take the judgement seat as a third party. In retrospect, the situation could have been much worse, much, much worse.
I don't have any desire to talk about this, but if someone should reply to any part of it, I'll have no choice but to reply to it for my name sake. Sorry, thats just the way it works with stuff like this. So if no one wants that, I'm telling you now to just let it pass, and even ignore it if you can. If you can't, at least don't fester over it or become disgruntled towards me. The event itself was not my fault, remember that. I was just acting out of self defense. Its really as simple as that. Had he not done it, the whole event never would have happened and I'd be in good with those few people that still don't like me.
One incident shouldn't loom over me or him forever, especially considering the time that has passed, the fact that he has grown up and I've forgiven him (and in the process grew up a bit myself). That one event hardly describes my character, and it would be sad and complete tomfoolery to avoid me because of it when I've seen FAR worse things happen multiple times with the SAME people in the General Discussions forum. They are like cats and dogs in there on almost a regular basis so they make what him and I went through seem like peanuts.