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Youtube doesn't allow anything pornographic in nature, but pornographic content is a gray area. You can find all kinds of screwed up stuff on that site.

This is all besides the point. The purpose of this thread is to inform the community of something that happened to me at the hands of a fellow producer. One who I loved for a long time but will no longer support.. and like Oblesklk said, possibly take legal action against.

Next thing you know he's going to be trying to sell my clips.
 
Keep in mind that this is not the same TIB that we all used to know and love. Someone else took things over and continued using the handle. The original TIB is a good guy who I can't imagine ever pulling that kind of BS.

Thats the thing, though. Tickling Post is going by the name TIW now, or something. Its the original TIB, no doubt about it.
 
ZenTickling, I tried to make it up to you by purchasing an amazing Amber clip lol money well spent!
 
Pretty gutless of TIB/W. Sorry to hear about this situation Zen, sounds like a huge pain in your ass.
 
yes, that is absolute crap; I was aware he would try to get his own stuff pulled and it was often viewed since the clips he posts are so short

But classless to get other producers clips pulled.
 
All I can say is that, should this prove to be true, I am shocked and saddened by it.
 
What happened to Innocent until Proven Guilty!

Hey all, TIW here.

A friend emailed me and told me I needed to check out this witch hunt. I really don't have the time or desire to defend myself for something so ridiculous, and shouldn't even have to. Is there a shred of evidence that I removed someone's videos? No, because I never did such a thing. Really, what is the evidence other than Zen saying I did it? Other than someone obviously claiming to be the tickling post company?

Is a guy who calls himself Zen, who openly on this forum has always said how much he hates me ... is he the evidence that supports this claim? (rolls eyes) Lies and drama ... that's all this is. May I state some facts?

1. I have not filmed tickling videos in 9 months. I only tickle torture privately now as I grew tired of the "clip store life."

2. I don't care which companies post their videos or where. It's none of my business.

3. I probably log into the TMF once every month or so, if even that much. Check with the mods they can track my logins. (my point is that i've lost interest in this place, so why would i even care if some guy posts his videos on youtube. i don't care)

4. I've researched youtube after hearing of this witch hunt and it turns out anyone can fill out some form and say they are some company and get clips pulled. Just because some guy or girl said they were T-Post representative doesn't meant it was actually me. It wasn't.

5. If it really is happening, I have no idea who's doing it and claiming to be Tickling Post. Obviously it's someone who wants to take down a company's videos yet throw the blame on someone they dislike. I don't know. I don't care.

6. Zen owes me an apology for this, but I already forgive him.

Now if Zen can take his drama somewhere else it'd be a better forum, for everyone. Nothing better to do? Go take a walk, read a good book.

Oh, just so you know that Zen is not the great loving respectful guy he claims to be, I got this nice gem from him in my inbox. (and with what proof or evidence for him to back it up?)

ZenTickling - Well since I can't PM you, I guess I'll say it here. You're a dick. You reported MY video on youtube - Sept 19, 1:17pm <--- isn't that against TMF rules to harass like that?

Mods can confirm he sent me that message to my TMF inbox if you want.

Listen, to all you nice folks here who really know me and the kind of person I've always tried to be ... hello to you. I miss chatting with many of you ... but have moved on for now. Tickling is awesome and will always be a love of mine. But it shouldn't be your entire life, your every waking thought. It'll drive you crazy and ruin your life. It took me a while to learn that.

I will not be back to discuss this witch hunt. I haven't got the time and since I'm not truly even involved with this horrible horrible incident of a deleted youtube file, I won't waste another moment discussing it.

Be safe everyone!

TIW
 
Is there a shred of evidence that I removed someone's videos? No, because I never did such a thing. Really, what is the evidence other than Zen saying I did it?



Yes, there is a shred of evidence. You saw it. If indeed this person is an impostor pretending to be you I am sorry. I'll find out this person's identity after I send this letter in to Youtube.

Is a guy who calls himself Zen, who openly on this forum has always said how much he hates me ...

Not really. I've always liked your old stuff.. and you.. ever since I found the forum years ago. When I first started posting I would leave nice comments about you too. Recently however, your 'thread bumping' has become annoying, and this incident just pushed me over the edge.

Now if Zen can take his drama somewhere else it'd be a better forum, for everyone.

This 'drama' (somebody claiming my property as lawfully theirs) was brought to me.

Oh, just so you know that Zen is not the great loving respectful guy he claims to be, I got this nice gem from him in my inbox. (and with what proof or evidence for him to back it up?)

ZenTickling - Well since I can't PM you, I guess I'll say it here. You're a dick. You reported MY video on youtube - Sept 19, 1:17pm <--- isn't that against TMF rules to harass like that?

Mods can confirm he sent me that message to my TMF inbox if you want.

That was on your visitor message page, for all to see.


I'm not ashamed of anything I said, but I am sorry if this indeed was someone else. I get angry (I'm human), especially when somebody claims to own my property. If somebody is using your company's name (your copyright) to commit unlawful acts on the internet, that is probably something you need to take care of.
 
I don't think I'm involved in too much drama here at the forum.. at least I hope I'm not. I think everyone can understand why I am so upset and what led me to believe Tickling-Post was to blame.

I'm mailing a sworn statement to Youtube today, and I should receive my accuser's contact information for legal purposes. If indeed this was not the TIW (and again I'm sorry if somebody is impersonating you) I should know soon. TickleVideoSpa please PM me an email address or phone number so I can let you know the name of the person performing illegal actions under the guise of your company.
 
Good hunting, Zen! I don't think that the possibility of a forged accuser name would have occurred to me, either (and of course, you don't know yet whether or not that's true). I hope you can get to the bottom of this.

And speaking of Zen, when is Nae coming back?
 
Trouble makers posing as others on the net...whether to avoid blame on themselves or to give the unsuspecting subject a bad name...has been going on for years. I, for one, am not surprised. While I can understand Zen responding angrily to the violation of his own priveledges, I also feel for TIW for having been the target culprit of this attack. Having had someone post things claiming to be me in the past, I know how frustrating it can be...esp. when others fall for it so easily.

Obviously there's the idea of innocent until proven guilty idea that TIW mentioned in his response. But beyond that, I think this serves as an unfortunate reminder that, when someone appears to be so out of character, it really may not be them. The internet is a wonderful thing. But, it can be used for as much evil as good. This is one of those times.

I wish you both well. I hope that you get to the bottom of this and nail the jerk who did it.
 
Well, first off, who IS telling the truth?

See if it is even possible for someone to "impersonate" someone else on YouTube.

Second, start posting clips again, and see if they start being removed again by Tickling-Post.....

That may give you an idea if this is a smokescreen, or if someone IS indeed impersonating TIW.

Is anyone ELSE'S clips being removed? Is it just ZenTickling? If so, why just his stuff, but THAT specific user?
 
Well, first off, who IS telling the truth?

See if it is even possible for someone to "impersonate" someone else on YouTube.

Second, start posting clips again, and see if they start being removed again by Tickling-Post.....

That may give you an idea if this is a smokescreen, or if someone IS indeed impersonating TIW.

Is anyone ELSE'S clips being removed? Is it just ZenTickling? If so, why just his stuff, but THAT specific user?

Well I looked into it and you can't just clip flag and have the video taken down for copyright purposes they have to fill this out: http://www.youtube.com/copyright_complaint_form

They signed and agreed under penalty of perjury that they owned my clips.

I don't know who would take the time and risk of filling out one of these documents for my material. All I know is that Tickling-Post showed up as the company name. I'm trying to get Youtube to provide me with the other party's contact information. The other person has 14 days to produce a court order or else my clips go back up. Hopefully I get the name of the person when that deadline passes.

Plenty of people have had their clips taken down. tmac (LIB) comes to mind.
 
To raise a good question: Why as a sexual fetish community are we still posting our content on a website that can be accessed by children? I think its time for the community to take a stand and create our own YouTube style clip depository to safe guard ourselves from mistaken child perversion and the children themselves from accessing our sexual content.

Ray
 
To raise a good question: Why as a sexual fetish community are we still posting our content on a website that can be accessed by children? I think its time for the community to take a stand and create our own YouTube style clip depository to safe guard ourselves from mistaken child perversion and the children themselves from accessing our sexual content.

Ray

This!
 
To raise a good question: Why as a sexual fetish community are we still posting our content on a website that can be accessed by children?
So no posting tickling content on the internet anymore, then.
 
Sorry I am a late into the discussion.

Well I want to dispel a few myths that has been going around, First off You Tube is not nor ever has been a family website. Never is the content meant to be fully child safe.

Yes YouTube does have rules in regards to pornography

"Don't Cross the Line
Here are some common-sense rules that will help you steer clear of trouble:

■YouTube is not for pornography or sexually explicit content. If this describes your video, even if it's a video of yourself, don't post it on YouTube. Also, be advised that we work closely with law enforcement and we report child exploitation. Please read our Safety Center and stay safe on YouTube.
■Don't post videos showing bad stuff like animal abuse, drug abuse, under-age drinking and smoking, or bomb making.
■Graphic or gratuitous violence is not allowed. If your video shows someone being physically hurt, attacked, or humiliated, don't post it.
■YouTube is not a shock site. Don't post gross-out videos of accidents, dead bodies or similar things intended to shock or disgust.
■Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you are authorized to use. This means don't upload videos you didn't make, or use content in your videos that someone else owns the copyright to, such as music tracks, snippets of copyrighted programs, or videos made by other users, without necessary authorizations. Read our Copyright Tips for more information.
■We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech (speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity).
■Things like predatory behavior, stalking, threats, harassment, intimidation, invading privacy, revealing other people’s personal information, and inciting others to commit violent acts or to violate the Terms of Use are taken very seriously. Anyone caught doing these things may be permanently banned from YouTube.
■Everyone hates spam. Don’t create misleading descriptions, tags, titles or thumbnails in order to increase views. It's not okay to post large amounts of untargeted, unwanted or repetitive content, including comments and private messages."

this can be found here.

While Porongraphy is banned adult materal is allowed infact youtube even has a flagging system for such materal which can be found here.

Material that is flagged as being adult you have to be over 18 and logged in to watch. True in order to be over 18 all you have to do is put in a date of birth (with no checks in place) to make that claim but at least its slightly better than the standard check box found in a lot of adult sites.

Youtube is a mainstream website that has a wide range of people that use its site. but young children isn't one of them.

youtube has rules such as "Children under 13 years are not permitted to access YouTube."

you can find info on this here.

I do agree that many children even under the age of 13 do use youtube and a lot of the material found there is safe for them to watch but like most of the Internet it isn't children friendly it isn't really for children to view and should only be done with parental supervision.

sorry for the slight rant but wanted to clear that up with youtube as its a common misconception with the site due to its success and being more mainstream. I also agree that any producers who are posting material should have it always flagged appropriately so that it can't be accidently viewed by children.

Ok now onto the main point of the thread well I can say its the double edge of things like youtube and do feel sorry for you but once you get ownership of the clip sorted out with youtube if your still feeling angry, you could consult with a good lawyer as it might be possible for you to take further action in this matter against the one who made the claim against you.

But also try and not let them get to you, have your moment of anger try to direct your venting, then move on. They are really not worth it and you know your company must be doing something right if they have to do these tactics against you. (unless of course its an angry customer)
 
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