Do you think the word "torture" is a little rude?

[Paultickler]

I know we know the difference between what we like and the real tortures, but I don't know I can't imagine that tickling is like the real tortures?


What do ya think?

 

[tkpatience]

In my opinion it entirely depends on the context in which it is presented. Hardcore non-consensual tickling would be considered torture which is a capital offense in some places. On the other hand, softcore playful stuff would just be another outlet for adult entertainment.

Also as a side note, tickling can be just as bad as the "real life" tortures given the right circumstances.

My two cents

 

[cloudgazer2k]

In my opinion it entirely depends on the context in which it is presented. Hardcore non-consensual tickling would be considered torture which is a capital offense in some places. On the other hand, softcore playful stuff would just be another outlet for adult entertainment.

Also as a side note, tickling can be just as bad as the "real life" tortures given the right circumstances.

My two cents

that i can agree with. i have seen so many people who say they enjoy tickling, but still feel it is torture. even in the consentual circumstance, be it S&M play, a video/photo shoot, or two people tying each other up for tickle-play, the person being tickled may be ticklish enough that it sounds like they are being slaughtered. to call it torture wouldn't be "rude", but some people on the outside may see it as such, or think negatively when that word is used.

 

[sabaki]

I'll agree that the word "torture" is pretty heavy-sounding and is thrown around a lot in contexts where it would be better to talk about "play." To refer to play as torture is misleading, and one could also say that it trivializes real tortures to an extent. In the same way, one could say that phrases like "tickle rape" when used in a playful context make light of actual rape.

I'll also agree with tkpatience that in the right circumstances (which are probably quite rare) and perhaps combined with other techniques, tickling could be a torture every bit as unbearable and grief-causing as some tortures used to interrogate prisoners. The difference is that we would always practice it consensually, not as a human rights violation -- even if it causes a similar degree of suffering.

Still, I don't think tickling could ever be as bad as water curing, disemboweling, or any of those really terrible tortures. So you have a point. Maybe we should just say "heavy tickle play" or "light tickle play" and leave the T word out.

 

[steph]

I know that English is not your native language...By "rude" do you mean cruel, barbaric??

XOXO

 

[nostradamas]

"Rude" Interupted

Geeze Steph, put on your big-brain and re-read the post and replies (see: Sabaki), instead of insulting the poor fellow and making yourself look... well ... ignorant and patronizing.

Torture IS inherently "cruel" AND "barbaric".

By "rude", I believe he meant "understated" ... "inaccurate" ...or "not really torture".


Tickle torture (as we use it here) is just a phrase, that in this day and age, with real torture going on in the world, shouldn't be thrown around loosely.


Try thinking outside the box.

 

[cloudgazer2k]

Geeze Steph, put on your big-brain and re-read the post and replies (see: Sabaki), instead of insulting the poor fellow and making yourself look... well ... ignorant and patronizing.

Torture IS inherently "crude" AND "barbaric".

By "rude", I believe he meant "understated" ... "inaccurate" ...or "not really torture".


Tickle torture (as we use it here) is just a phrase, that in this day and age, with real torture going on in the world, shouldn't be thrown around loosely.


Try thinking outside the box.

i honestly do not think that was Steph's intent, and you yourself just made yourself seem "ignorant and patronizing".
to the topic at hand, i refer to a post i made awhile back. the word "torture", in and of itself, can describe so many things. "That interview was tough...it was almost like torture", or "This week was torture.". two phrases that use this "taboo" word for everyday life. torture can be used to descibe any kind of harsh situation or event, and, again, used by specific people when being tickled that it is torture for them. too many people are hung up on how one word is so demeaning, when it can be used in many different forms of context.

how about you try thinking out of the box, nostradamus, instead of redily passing judgement on an innocent question?

 

[simulated]

Geeze Steph, put on your big-brain and re-read the post and replies (see: Sabaki), instead of insulting the poor fellow and making yourself look... well ... ignorant and patronizing.

Torture IS inherently "crude" AND "barbaric".

By "rude", I believe he meant "understated" ... "inaccurate" ...or "not really torture".


Tickle torture (as we use it here) is just a phrase, that in this day and age, with real torture going on in the world, shouldn't be thrown around loosely.


Try thinking outside the box.

post = doubleplussironic?

 

[TklrJoe]

Oh, jeez. Troll much?

 

[chicago]

I think "torture" is used as more of a playful threat between members on the forum, when it's not being used in a description of a clip to get more people to buy it.

In both circumstances, I think it is rare that the person using the word actually intends to torture.

 

[Tkltorture]

I know we know the difference between what we like and the real tortures, but I don't know I can't imagine that tickling is like the real tortures?


What do ya think?

I for one think that the word torture is horribly offensive and should never be used by anyone. Oh....wait.....

 

[Headsnap]

Try getting your face tickled with a jerry-can and tell me that's not torturous.

THE THINGS I'VE SEEN HAUNT MY NIGHTMARES 🙁🙁

 

[isabeau]

Try getting your face tickled with a jerry-can and tell me that's not torturous.

THE THINGS I'VE SEEN HAUNT MY NIGHTMARES 🙁🙁

hmm you do have weird nightmares..and what is a jerry can???

torture is how you perceive it, as others have said here..tickle torture does seem rather an oxymoron, however consider someone who absolutely is devasatingly, unbearably ticklish and hates it to the extreme....and is tied down and unmercifully tickled? yea that could be considered torture in the correct definition...

it's not rude i don't think...like exquisite torture isn't a rude expression..

 

[steph]

Thanks babes ~some of you know me well enough to know I was attempting to understand the OP's true intent, to get inside his head.

English is in fact, not his first language, Nostra (It's technically not mine either, my family is from Italy. Try paying attention. Unlike you I read other people's past posts) and I am neither "ignorant nor patronizing."
XOXO

 

[skelyrata]

The important thing is that is a game

In the fetish world, we like to use storng words as torture, slave, forced, etc, to give some spicyness to the fantasies that we are dramatazing, but at the end is just a roleplaying game between to people.

In the case of a girl that comes to a strangers house, and lets him tie her up naked, I find this very thrilling because at the same time is a testament that she trusts this stranger with her live, but at the same time there is some fear running through her veins wondering "will I survive this tickling session" or "what is this guy gonna do with me" since most tickling sessions includes other extra fetishes on the side as complements, vibrating been the more common.

Now we all now that the mother of all fetishes is rape, which it doesn't mean that we want to really rape anybody or that the girl wants to really be rape, but is a fantasy scenario that thrills us. How many times have we done the "thief that comes into the house, surprise the lonely wifes, tie her up and do with her whatever he wants" roleplaying game?

In the case of tickle torture I find very exciting the fact that even though the girl is screaming, even begging for the tickler to stop, he has permission to keep going and literally drive her insane.

 

[skelyrata]

Is just a game

Well, in my case, I hire the girl to shoot a fetish video in which tickling is the main fetish. When she comes, we are strangers, and that first session is a very important one because is where we both earn our trust.

Before the action starts, we talk and set the rules, and the safe word, which is the only moment when I really stop, and we discuss her "yes and no's". Even though tickle torture is the main fetish, there are always other fetishes involve and I like to improvise.

Now, in my case, the only fetish that I don't do is hardcore porn or penetration because that would actually cross the line between fantasy and reality... but that doesn't mean that I can't use a dildo.

At the end of the session, we talk again, exchange feedback and she signs a release in which she certifies that she participated in this session on her free will.

About the fantasy roleplaying game of the "thief", you should try it. Is a really cool roleplaying game. And I enfasize in the word "game".

And am just explaining all this to support my point that in the fetish world, we use words like "torture" to put some spiciness in the game, but at the end is just that, a game.

 

[sabaki]

And am just explaining all this to support my point that in the fetish world, we use words like "torture" to put some spiciness in the game, but at the end is just that, a game.

I'm thinking that maybe video producers overuse spice words like "torture" and apply it to too many situations where it's anything but. They do this to the point where it's lost all meaning and impact in advertisements, IMO.

 

[BorisandNatasha]

I know we know the difference between what we like and the real tortures, but I don't know I can't imagine that tickling is like the real tortures?


What do ya think?

KGB Torture # 237.....Tickling Torture or 'Tickle Torture'.

Most effective.

Boris

 

[Mastertank1]

First of all....

The word rude has a definition; it means crude, ignorant, or insultingly impertinent.

I would say the act of inflicting non-tickling torture on anyone would be rude.
Genuinely nonconsensual tickling would be rude (to say the least!).
Using the word is not rude.
Accusing Steph of patronization and ignorance for absolutely no good reason is rude in all three senses of the definition.
It was also stupid.
Ignorance and stupidity are two different things; it takes real talent to demonstrate both in a single sentence.
Congratulations.
Now pardon me while I go sharpen my tongue. 😎

 

[LeeAllure]

I don't think that the word torture is rude at all.

I also don't think making someone laugh can be
considered torture 🙂

Lee

 

[GirlWhoLikes2Laugh]

I think that the word torture when used as in tickle torture is meant as being playful especially on this forum. The word torture can be bad but it can also be used in the playful sense.

 

[drew70]

I can understand the sentiment. For me, being tortured by tickling is a good thing, as it kind of flushes out any traces of depression or dissatisfaction with life. The feeling I get after surviving an intense tickling of a cruel duration is one of total relaxation and contentment.

Life is good when you're tickled far beyond your limits of endurance and you survive it!

 

[nostradamas]

Thanks babes ~some of you know me well enough to know I was attempting to understand the OP's true intent, to get inside his head.

English is in fact, not his first language, Nostra (It's technically not mine either, my family is from Italy. Try paying attention. Unlike you I read other people's past posts) and I am neither "ignorant nor patronizing."
XOXO

steph, I owe you an apology. I was out of line to say you are ignorant. I thought you were patronizing him, but it appears I was off-base on that assumption as well. It was a knee-jerk reaction to what I thought was a smug reply.

I guess at times I can be a real Nostra-dumb-ass.

I still think this thread has yet to be fully explored.

Is the word "torture" a good one to use with tickling?
Or does it make light of real torture?

I can't speak for everyone, but i believe most of us experience intense pleasure either giving or receiving it.

 

[TickledToDeath]

Definitely not rude at all and when it comes to tickling, almost always or at least usually, very underplayed and not used to is fullest potential of the definition.

 

[hamneggs]

EMPATHY and TRUST

I don't think that the word torture is rude at all.

I also don't think making someone laugh can be
considered torture 🙂

Lee

I don't know about that, Lee. The "Laughter" induced by tickling is a natural reflex, far removed from the laughter induced by humor. It can be TRUE TORTURE to someone, depending on their limits. It's cool if it's consentual between the parties with a safeword established. In that context, it is fun and extremely erotic for us "philes." It is up to the "lee" to set his or her own limits (some get off on the more "torturous" aspects, and that's fine if it's THEIR choice). But, IMHO, those limits must be respected, first and foremost.

I once read a story that disgusted me. Some guy restrained his girlfriend and let his little brother (I think around five or six) tickle her many minutes past her limits. She was pleading for them to stop and began crying, yet they continued.

Put yourself in her place--a target of humiliation and helplessness. To me, that crosses the line into abuse and "torture."

Just my 2 cents ...

H&E