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Doggies and Kitties and "Pet" Peeves

I have five cats. Two more than I intended but the other two were starving foundlings.

Like potato chips, aren't they? Good for you for giving them a loving home.

Give them a good home and they become great pets. Two of my birds were abandoned by their owners and they have turned out to be wonderful, if not noisy, additions to my home.

You're a good man, K. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise (even Mondy).

I have to add one more memory. My Uncle Harold was a big, strapping man (could have been a stand-in for John Wayne) and on the surface a crusty old sob who served under Patton in North Africa and Europe, but he had a heart of gold and loved children and animals. He had a German Shepherd named Old Joe, and I loved them both. If we visited when it was time for Joe to eat Harold would let me open two cans of dog food and put them in Joe's bowl. Then, we would mess around in the yard until Joe got tired of me and took a nap. One day, Joe was not around and I asked Harold where he was. Harold said something like "He's not here" and let it go. After a few more visits with no Joe it was pretty clear what had happened, but my uncle never spoke of him again. I think it hurt too much. I still miss them, after all these years.

They leave a huge hole in your heart. But you can try to fill the void. I know exactly what that loss means and I still get choked up talking about any of my past pets.

I had a female cat in high school who would ignore me unless feeding was required. The only other time she'd condescend to notice my existence was when she was guarding my teenage chastity. If I brought a male friend home she'd pay no notice. The sight of a female human my age would cause her to interpose herself between us on the couch, returning to the same position if physically removed, and glaring balefully at both of us in an obviously conscious effort to scupper my already incompetent attempts at 'courtship'.

Ah, frisky felines... what a prudish pussy cat! 😛

Very, very true. I see how lively they are and glad that feel safe and cozy.

Yes, much better than a life on the street!
 
Pumpkin! And a PSA...(Holiday Hazards)

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So this is pumpkin... my newest addition. And since he's being so good (for once!) sitting underneath the Christmas tree, I got to thinking... this is that time of year when animals like to get into trouble. So I thought I'd give a list of some of the more serious perils to avoid this holiday season.

1. Plants - Most of the winter plants aren't deadly. The ASPCA has a great page on common poisonous plants.
2. Electrical cords - deadly. Make sure your pets aren't finding any of these appealing enough to chew.
3. Tinsel - we have a saying in vet med - it's not Christmas until the cat poops tinsel. Do not include it in your decorations. Just avoid it.
4. Chocolate - The good news is not all chocolate is created equal. The more serious toxicity occurs with baker's chocolate or dark chocolate. White chocolate and milk chocolate contain much lower amounts of caffeine and theobromine that cause the problems we see in animals.
5. Ornaments - glass! Yep, they will bite it.
6. Christmas tree - live ones. The water you use to keep the tree from drying out - especially if you add aspirin to it - can be very hazardous for small dogs and cats who see this as a perfect drinking bowl.
7. Road salt - corrosive for cars and poor pet pads. Can cause GI upset if your pet drinks the melted puddles.
8. Anti-freeze - Less than a teaspoon can kill a dog. Almost impossible to treat unless you act quickly or see the animal ingest it and get them immediately help.

Just remember to be pet safe while enjoying your furry loved ones! :dog: :cat:
 
Okay Doc, so Gypsy , annoying cat, has been vomiting on occasion, and I noticed when it happens that the food is still whole. It's almost like she's not chewing it at all, and maybe that's what is making her puke? I have changed dry food brands a couple of times to see if it was because of the brand? She can't have anything with sea food flavors in it, because that makes her belly icky. Should I try mixing her food with wet food? or just try wet food?
 
Okay Doc, so Gypsy , annoying cat, has been vomiting on occasion, and I noticed when it happens that the food is still whole. It's almost like she's not chewing it at all, and maybe that's what is making her puke? I have changed dry food brands a couple of times to see if it was because of the brand? She can't have anything with sea food flavors in it, because that makes her belly icky. Should I try mixing her food with wet food? or just try wet food?

This is such a great question! Nutrition is one of the most important things and it's so easily overlooked. There's all kinds of factors - shape and size and texture of the kibble, food bowl, water consumption. How much do you feed her - small meals several times a day or free choice, full bowl? There's also a lot of debate nowadays as to how important dry food vs. wet food is. Dry food is fed primarily for convenience. Many folks think it's critical to only feed dry food for the teeth. In fact, many cats don't chew their food very well. Cats are also notoriously poor drinkers and dry mouth contributes to dental disease as well. Sooo.... how to answer your question:
1) Make sure you've had her vet checked for dental disease and make sure she's not losing weight.
2) Consider giving her small meals of dry food and incorporating wet food into her diet. (Current thinking is 20% of the diet should be dry to help the teeth).
3) If she is gorging (i.e. inhaling her food without chewing it), I have two suggestions - try putting a toy in her bowl to force her to slow down and eat (this can become a little game - my one cat used to push it out of his bowl every day and I'd put it back); look for one of the fancy newer food bowls that aren't smooth on the bottom but have raised shapes instead. These sort of form mini compartments and again make the cat slow down when eating.
4) For some other diet choices, consider mixing in either a dental diet or a sensitive stomach version.

Thanks for the question - mind you, these are just my suggestions. For medical issues, you should always contact your veterinarian for recommendations.
 
She doesn't eat really that much, I fill her bowl up about 1/3 of a cup of dry food, and that usually lasts her all day. She does drink a lot though, I have to refill her water dish almost twice a day. She's definitely not losing any weight. I'm going to try mixing a little bit of wet food with her dry, to see if that helps, and a different choice of bowl. If that doesn't improve, next stop is the vet. Which she'll "love"....

This is such a great question! Nutrition is one of the most important things and it's so easily overlooked. There's all kinds of factors - shape and size and texture of the kibble, food bowl, water consumption. How much do you feed her - small meals several times a day or free choice, full bowl? There's also a lot of debate nowadays as to how important dry food vs. wet food is. Dry food is fed primarily for convenience. Many folks think it's critical to only feed dry food for the teeth. In fact, many cats don't chew their food very well. Cats are also notoriously poor drinkers and dry mouth contributes to dental disease as well. Sooo.... how to answer your question:
1) Make sure you've had her vet checked for dental disease and make sure she's not losing weight.
2) Consider giving her small meals of dry food and incorporating wet food into her diet. (Current thinking is 20% of the diet should be dry to help the teeth).
3) If she is gorging (i.e. inhaling her food without chewing it), I have two suggestions - try putting a toy in her bowl to force her to slow down and eat (this can become a little game - my one cat used to push it out of his bowl every day and I'd put it back); look for one of the fancy newer food bowls that aren't smooth on the bottom but have raised shapes instead. These sort of form mini compartments and again make the cat slow down when eating.
4) For some other diet choices, consider mixing in either a dental diet or a sensitive stomach version.

Thanks for the question - mind you, these are just my suggestions. For medical issues, you should always contact your veterinarian for recommendations.
 
Update on le Cat du annoying, Gypsophelia.....I bought some wet food, the only can I could find with only 2.5% or less Ash in it was the Friskies, mainly the chicken or turkey dinners. Instead of putting her food in a bowl I put it on a plate, 1/3 cup of dry and 1 tablespoon of wet mixed thoroughly. She ate all of it, but she actually took her time eating. She didn't inhale it down, and I could actually hear her trying to chew it. Now it's the waiting game to see if she is going to vomit it back up again.
 
I currently have no pets, but here is my Best Friends Cat. His name is Mr Butters.
 

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I currently have no pets, but here is my Best Friends Cat. His name is Mr Butters.

Very cool! Heterochromia isn't uncommon in cats - I often see white cats with one blue/one green eye. But to see an orange male like this is really striking! 🙂 Thanks for sharing!
 
Well, we've seen at least a few chocolate ingestion cases. And a whole mixture of foreign bodies. With the snow falling now, it will be either leg injuries, gastrointestinal problems, or urinary tract infections (blood shows up well in snow). Ah, getting that warm, fuzzy feeling already. Anyone have emergency room stories for their pets?
 
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Most people on here already know about my 1 1/2 year old Pomeranian, Wicket. He's the love of our life and a joy every day! One "interesting fact" about him though, is when he burps, he can be heard from anywhere in the house. That's saying a lot, coming from a 5lb dog.. Hope you all love him as much as we do!!
 
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This is (was) Buttons; he was my furry buddy for almost 16 years. We got him when he was two years old only twelve days after my mom passed. I was horribly depressed and so were the kids. It took a lot of work to convince the husband to allow a cat, but he ended up being his furry buddy too. Buttons died May 18, 2011 due to a sudden illness and the husband passed away nearly two months later July 14, 2011. I figure they're out in the skies hanging out and keeping each other company.

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This is Timmy.....large and in charge! Well sort of anyway! I inherited him almost two years ago when my girlfriend's mother passed away. She and her sister live out of town and they didn't want him in a shelter so what did I do? I said I'd take him......they even added him to the obituary thanking me for adopting him. He and Buttons did not get along; Buttons was the classic alpha male and Timmy as big as he is the horribly submissive type. Works great with females but Buttons was no fan of male cats. They didn't kill each other but managed to learn to tolerate each other's existence.

Timmy's former name was Baby........that's right folks....Baby! I got a big, spoiled, overindulged kitty who thinks he's a baby. I'm not the pet parent type but we've managed to survive each other's company so far. Unfortunately I'm going to have to get him declawed; he's big and strong and my windows and carpet are catching hell at his natural need to keep his claws in shape. I'm investigating laser removal as opposed to the traditional. If I had to go traditional I don't think I can do it; I saw a youtube video of it and it made me ill. But the front claws have to go-he's a 100% indoor cat and will never go outside.

I hope I don't get in a fight with folks over the clawed vs declawed debates. I know it's him acting naturally and he can't help himself. But I haven't been successful at training his tendencies away either and I can't afford to replace everything he's already torn up and after nearly two years he's not going to change his habits. I'm stressed out about this enough as it is so please, please, please don't give me grief about this because I've done enough to myself to last a lifetime.
 
Don't have a pet myself, but 4 months ago one of my friends discovered two stray kittens, one a white longhair and the other a grey tabby, in his garage. They are now welcome members of his household and a pair of little fur tornadoes as well!
 
Tzar, Is he made with real butter? If not, this is clearly false advertising. That would at least make him self-basting. 😀

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This is (was) Buttons; he was my furry buddy for almost 16 years. We got him when he was two years old only twelve days after my mom passed. I was horribly depressed and so were the kids. It took a lot of work to convince the husband to allow a cat, but he ended up being his furry buddy too. Buttons died May 18, 2011 due to a sudden illness and the husband passed away nearly two months later July 14, 2011. I figure they're out in the skies hanging out and keeping each other company.

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This is Timmy.....large and in charge! Well sort of anyway! I inherited him almost two years ago when my girlfriend's mother passed away. She and her sister live out of town and they didn't want him in a shelter so what did I do? I said I'd take him......they even added him to the obituary thanking me for adopting him. He and Buttons did not get along; Buttons was the classic alpha male and Timmy as big as he is the horribly submissive type. Works great with females but Buttons was no fan of male cats. They didn't kill each other but managed to learn to tolerate each other's existence.

Timmy's former name was Baby........that's right folks....Baby! I got a big, spoiled, overindulged kitty who thinks he's a baby. I'm not the pet parent type but we've managed to survive each other's company so far. Unfortunately I'm going to have to get him declawed; he's big and strong and my windows and carpet are catching hell at his natural need to keep his claws in shape. I'm investigating laser removal as opposed to the traditional. If I had to go traditional I don't think I can do it; I saw a youtube video of it and it made me ill. But the front claws have to go-he's a 100% indoor cat and will never go outside.

I hope I don't get in a fight with folks over the clawed vs declawed debates. I know it's him acting naturally and he can't help himself. But I haven't been successful at training his tendencies away either and I can't afford to replace everything he's already torn up and after nearly two years he's not going to change his habits. I'm stressed out about this enough as it is so please, please, please don't give me grief about this because I've done enough to myself to last a lifetime.

Thanks for sharing, Kis. Declawing is always a touchy subject, but I believe that cats deserve a happy home. And no matter which technique is used, it's done humanely. Ask about pain medications for his post-op recovery. Because of his size, I'd ask about pills, liquid, or a pain patch.

Don't have a pet myself, but 4 months ago one of my friends discovered two stray kittens, one a white longhair and the other a grey tabby, in his garage. They are now welcome members of his household and a pair of little fur tornadoes as well!

Well, they certainly do stir up trouble 🙂 Love to hear about well deserved rescues.
 
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This is (was) Buttons; he was my furry buddy for almost 16 years. We got him when he was two years old only twelve days after my mom passed. I was horribly depressed and so were the kids. It took a lot of work to convince the husband to allow a cat, but he ended up being his furry buddy too. Buttons died May 18, 2011 due to a sudden illness and the husband passed away nearly two months later July 14, 2011. I figure they're out in the skies hanging out and keeping each other company.

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This is Timmy.....large and in charge! Well sort of anyway! I inherited him almost two years ago when my girlfriend's mother passed away. She and her sister live out of town and they didn't want him in a shelter so what did I do? I said I'd take him......they even added him to the obituary thanking me for adopting him. He and Buttons did not get along; Buttons was the classic alpha male and Timmy as big as he is the horribly submissive type. Works great with females but Buttons was no fan of male cats. They didn't kill each other but managed to learn to tolerate each other's existence.

Timmy's former name was Baby........that's right folks....Baby! I got a big, spoiled, overindulged kitty who thinks he's a baby. I'm not the pet parent type but we've managed to survive each other's company so far. Unfortunately I'm going to have to get him declawed; he's big and strong and my windows and carpet are catching hell at his natural need to keep his claws in shape. I'm investigating laser removal as opposed to the traditional. If I had to go traditional I don't think I can do it; I saw a youtube video of it and it made me ill. But the front claws have to go-he's a 100% indoor cat and will never go outside.

I hope I don't get in a fight with folks over the clawed vs declawed debates. I know it's him acting naturally and he can't help himself. But I haven't been successful at training his tendencies away either and I can't afford to replace everything he's already torn up and after nearly two years he's not going to change his habits. I'm stressed out about this enough as it is so please, please, please don't give me grief about this because I've done enough to myself to last a lifetime.

A friend of mine declawed his cat and it never used its paws again. It spent its entire life pulling itself around the house on its belly. Even if they are indoor cats that doesn't make them immune to psychological damage.

I know you didn't want an argument but its upsetting to think that people still de-claw their cats because they are too lazy to train them or too cheap to buy a decent scratching post. I bet if there was a limb they could cut off their pet that instantly litter trains them they'd hack that off aswell.
 
A friend of mine declawed his cat and it never used its paws again. It spent its entire life pulling itself around the house on its belly. Even if they are indoor cats that doesn't make them immune to psychological damage.

I know you didn't want an argument but its upsetting to think that people still de-claw their cats because they are too lazy to train them or too cheap to buy a decent scratching post. I bet if there was a limb they could cut off their pet that instantly litter trains them they'd hack that off aswell.

This is the kind of argument that I refuse to engage in.

Almost every cat I've owned (over 10) has come to me already declawed; this is the first one that I'll have to declaw. If I don't front declaw him, he cannot stay with me; he has destroyed every window treatment, carpet, and wall in my home. I do not blame him because he's a cat and that's what they do. It's too bad your friend got a shitty surgeon to do the job but it doesn't mean that all surgeries will have the same outcome.

Unfortunately, I cannot afford to fix and replace everything he's destroyed and keep him too. What do you suggest? Either I declaw him and keep him with me or call APL and he risks getting euthanized. He's only 4 years old; would you prefer he wait to die or deal with his front paws declawed??

Since I've had several declawed cats who lived normal happy lives, I'm going with my solution and getting him declawed. Now unless you're willing to take him as he is and let him destroy your home you are in no position to criticize my decisions, but that's what armchair quarterbacks do behind a computer screen and it's certainly your business.

And the who the hell are you to call me lazy? You don't know me from a can of paint so don't you EVER imply that I'm lazy-you don't know me like that at all! I've owned several cats and had a few who weren't declawed. Unfortunately I had to deal with one that them attacked my cat (who's now deceased) and he ended up with an abscess that had to be surgically taken care of. Want to know how much that bill was? Over $400 and I was unemployed, and managed to handle it anyway. Unfortunately the perpetrator ended up at the shelter; she never should've been adopted to anyone other than a one pet family. It wasn't her fault but I had to deal with the mess anyway.

I said I wasn't going to argue about this and I won't!! I've made my decision and desdemona is a VET! She might not be thrilled at my decision but at least she gave me some positive advice, unlike yourself who are just being judgmental. There are safer and less barbaric methods of declawing and that's the route I'm taking. Either that or he'll be sitting in a shelter waiting his turn. What would you like to do about it other than to criticize me for my decision??

If you don't like it, go march for PETA or something. Otherwise, get the hell out of my business and stay out of it!!

I told all of you I won't entertain an argument nor will I ruin an otherwise good and positive thread about pets. If ANYONE else has something smartass to say to me, at least have the stones to take it to PM. I will DEFINITELY deal with you there!

My apologies desdemona because I know this is NOT what you want your thread turned into and I won't allow this troll......oh, I mean person or anyone else to do it. The next one who tries to publicly criticize me in this thread has something coming to them that will be most unpleasant, but it will be private.

Carry on..........
 
And another thing......

This decision has come after nearly two years of blood, sweat, training, retraining, and a whole lot of tears. This was a cat that I inherited in a whirlwind.....I didn't go and pick this animal because my choice would've been an already declawed cat. I don't want to do this but have no choice but to save the animal and keep him from being euthanized. My girlfriend would be mortified if she knew he ended up at a shelter because I couldn't figure out how to live with him

Don't act as if this was some thoughtless arbitrary move of inconvenience. He's probably created over $1500.00 of damage to my home. I don't blame him and I need to have home improvement work done anyway. But I haven't replaced my couch because I know he'll destroy it. I haven't replaced the carpet because I know he'll destroy it. I haven't had my walls fixed yet because I know he'll destroy them. No he can't help it but I'm not an endless resource for cat's that can't help themselves either.

I'm doing my damndest to keep him......and I'm willing to pay the extra bucks for a laser procedure as opposed to the standard one. Give me a friggin' break!!!:banghead:
 
Kis, I wouldn't let that person upset you. Pets are like kids, EVERYONE has an opinion about how to be the perfect "parent". There's really no right or wrong way of doing things, so long as you're keeping you pets best interest at heart, and to me, it sounds like you are.

You know your pet better than anyone else does, so don't let someone who has no idea of your life or your relationship with your pet control how YOU take care of it. My first instinct would be to listen to Des. She's given the go ahead, and even given you a safe way of doing it. So long as your vet approves, it shouldn't matter to anyone else. After all, the vets are the one's that ACTUALLY go to school for these things.
 
All that text and not one single reason given as to why you haven't tried to train him to use a scratch post. I've owned 3 cats so far and 2 learnt to scratch on their post in a week, the other slightly longer because I was the only person living in the house at the time.

Just calm down, I didn't personally attack you and now I'm labelled a troll for giving an honest opinion?
 
Kis, I wouldn't let that person upset you. Pets are like kids, EVERYONE has an opinion about how to be the perfect "parent". There's really no right or wrong way of doing things, so long as you're keeping you pets best interest at heart, and to me, it sounds like you are.

You know your pet better than anyone else does, so don't let someone who has no idea of your life or your relationship with your pet control how YOU take care of it. My first instinct would be to listen to Des. She's given the go ahead, and even given you a safe way of doing it. So long as your vet approves, it shouldn't matter to anyone else. After all, the vets are the one's that ACTUALLY go to school for these things.

Thank you.

I won't be responding to her trolling anymore. It's only for attention anyway and I'm not runining an otherwise perfectly good thread over her PETA-induced drivel.

This decision comes with thought, comtemplation, research, and compassion for an animal I wasn't even supposed to have and would be euthanized by now if I didn't take him. We BOTH deserve a happy life and a 4year old cat can live over 20 years. Behavior problems are the main reason pets end up in shelters and I didn't want to see that happen to him.

She can kick mud and kiss grits! And she's made kis history by landing in my ignore list after one negative stupid post. I told her and anyone else who had a problem with this to take it private so this thread can stay positive, but apparently she doesn't comprehend very well, or just wants a fight over something that at the end of the day is NONE OF HER BUSINESS!! Sorry for what happened to her friends cat but maybe they should've made a better choice of a surgeon......still not my problem!

At this point I have no interest in ANYTHING she has to say.
 
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I want to thank kis and Canadian for keeping things civil. This is always a very sensitive subject, so I'm actually glad it came up on here. I am not here to judge, my job is to educate owners and let them make informed choices. But the subject of declawing always raises heated debates. Some of my staff are adamantly opposed and can come across as very judgemental to my clients. It's not at all appropriate. They are not the ones living with the pet. I have had owners agonize over this - much like kis - wanting to do what is best for the animal but not wanting to have ruined belongings. There are no wrong answers here - always discuss your options with your veterinarian. He or she can address your concerns - like pain and healing and other such issues - well in advance. I used to get peeved at some of our foreign instructors - they were very condescending as they pointed out that such practices were banned in their country. Yes, and in some countries it's illegal to have your pet spayed or neutered unless it's medically necessary. Culturally, there are differences even across the US. In California, I know there are some counties that prohibit declawing (but then again, it's also illegal to own a ferret in the state of California). Again, making informed, humane, legal choices based on your own living situation and what your veterinarian recommends will result in both you and your cat being happier in the long run.

I appreciate everyone sharing experiences in this thread. I know things sometimes get emotionally charged, but please keep in mind that others are entitled to express their feelings and views without being insulted. Feel free to PM me if you have any concerns or questions that you don't want to see aired here, including about declawing.
 
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