Female sports reporters having their harassing tweets read to their faces

[TMF Jeff]

Ok, in order -

1) The relevance of rich white males is that it completes my statement. My point was that the only people white men are being sacrificed for is other white men, not women.

2) The white feather campaign was started by a male admiral to increase volunteerism during a time of war.

3) women have been begging for the right to be allowed to fight for hundreds of years, are you kidding? They only finally got permission this year. In other countries where they've been allowed to fight for longer, they've fought for longer.

But you also have to keep in mind that women are biologically very different from men. They'll evolve to fight around the same time you evolve to produce the next fighting generation with your body.

4) I don't know anything about the skimmington ride except what I was able to find out with google right now. That sounds pretty stupid, but like a lot of what you drag into this conversation, I don't see the relevance. Again, nobody is saying that men never get abused. But what is it about you that you can't let a conversation about the abuse of women exist without having to enter it this way?

My theory matches what Shadow said - it's a frantic cry for attention from a group of people who literally can't handle it when the spotlight is taken off their precious feelings for ten seconds.

5) What?? You want the national baseball league to press criminal charges on behalf of a third party? What does that even mean? You understand that they're not the police right?

And by the way, the police arrested her for it.

6) Exactly. Women were such second class citizens that they were not considered capable of handling money.

7) Yes, it was big of them to condescend to make that concession about a hundred thousand years after the invention of marriage.

Also, you're wrong about women and rape, which at this point should come as no surprise. Do you just read this on some stupid men's rights website and believe it at first glance without bothering to do ten seconds of research?

Can a Woman be Prosecuted for Raping a Man?

Yes! While a minority of states still use the traditional definition of rape, most have amended their rape laws to make them gender neutral. Under these statutes, women can be charged with raping men, or other women. (see same sex rape) Additionally, women can be charged with statutory rape of minor boys who are under the age of consent. Several widely publicized cases of female-male statutory rape in the United States involved school teachers raping their teenage male students. Further, in states that do not recognize female-male rape, the unwanted sexual touching can still be classified as assault or sexual abuse.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/rape-and-gender--can-a-woman-rape-a-man.html

And finally, I don't know who Mary Koss is, but if she's the opposite of this ridiculous nonsense, I'll definitely be checking her out.

No I wouldn't, and if you would open your eys and watch those two videos (the secound by author Christina H. Sommers "Who Stold Feminism") you wouldn't either, but I guess your fear of the truth makes that impossible. And since I'm not a rich white male I fale to see where that is relevent.

WW 1 had the white feather campaign where women shamed men in the British Commonwealth in to inlisting (some who died) to keep them safe. It was even in the propaganda posters. Pretty amazing how an oppressed group can shame their oppressors huh?

WW 2, The white feather campaign returned, as well as the draft/cconscription into service. In many places women could aready vote, yet none of them were forced in to service. Same with the Korean war as well as Vietnam. I believe it wasn't until after Vietnam that there was any push to get women into front line combat, and only 8% of women in the service have any interest in doing that.

As far as law goes their are comments about that in the videos. Including a refference to the fact that when communities discovered men were abusing thier wives or children they were often (iif not always) flogged. Men who were on the recieving end of abuse were given what was called a Skimmington ride threw town. Things haven't changed much on that front.

Ask yourself why Major League Baseball didn't bring in a Domestice Violence statute when Tawny Kitaen attacked Chuck Finlay while he was driving them somewhere? Probably because they were laughing at him.

Credit card is the easiest one. Back in those days a man would be responsible for covering his wifes debts if she could not. That being the case wouldn't you want to have final say on if she got a credit card?

Sorry for the spelling, I'm doing this from my phone and that red line doesn't show up, and my phone doesn't always give me the word I am looking for.

D.W.

Almost forgot, you mentioned marital rape. Well obviously everbody didn't think that way because the mostly male Government brought in a law for it didn't they? And a mostley male goverment also reinstated the term rape, except not in the United States women canot be charged with rape even if they violate a man while he is sleeping.

Thank you Mary P. Koss you lying troll.

 

[sonnee]

Awful...

 

[The_Darkweb]

Ok, in order -

1) The relevance of rich white males is that it completes my statement. My point was that the only people white men are being sacrificed for is other white men, not women.

2) The white feather campaign was started by a male admiral to increase volunteerism during a time of war.

3) women have been begging for the right to be allowed to fight for hundreds of years, are you kidding? They only finally got permission this year. In other countries where they've been allowed to fight for longer, they've fought for longer.

But you also have to keep in mind that women are biologically very different from men. They'll evolve to fight around the same time you evolve to produce the next fighting generation with your body.

4) I don't know anything about the skimmington ride except what I was able to find out with google right now. That sounds pretty stupid, but like a lot of what you drag into this conversation, I don't see the relevance. Again, nobody is saying that men never get abused. But what is it about you that you can't let a conversation about the abuse of women exist without having to enter it this way?

My theory matches what Shadow said - it's a frantic cry for attention from a group of people who literally can't handle it when the spotlight is taken off their precious feelings for ten seconds.

5) What?? You want the national baseball league to press criminal charges on behalf of a third party? What does that even mean? You understand that they're not the police right?

And by the way, the police arrested her for it.

6) Exactly. Women were such second class citizens that they were not considered capable of handling money.

7) Yes, it was big of them to condescend to make that concession about a hundred thousand years after the invention of marriage.

Also, you're wrong about women and rape, which at this point should come as no surprise. Do you just read this on some stupid men's rights website and believe it at first glance without bothering to do ten seconds of research?



http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/rape-and-gender--can-a-woman-rape-a-man.html

And finally, I don't know who Mary Koss is, but if she's the opposite of this ridiculous nonsense, I'll definitely be checking her out.

My point is, if you want to discuss online abuse, bullying, or harassment great. But this is only news because the victims are women. If anything this is an exploitation of their harassment for the sake of raiting.

And yes it was an an Admiral who came up with the idea because he knew women could shame men into just about anything, including evidently dieing in war. My point about baseball obviously went over your head, so I'll try to explain. In light of the incident with football player Rey Rice and his fiancée in that elevator they brought in an Anti Domomestic Violence statute. So why didn't they do that years before when the victim was Chuck?

So there is a double standard when it comes to male victims, regardless of the situation. Be it online harassment,ddomestic assault, or sexual assault. You latest responce only proves that you are one of those guys who is a contributor to that problem.

 

[Wolf]

Strange, isn't it? How a simple post about female sportswriters being harassed (and decent guys reacting to reading what vile, cowardly little man-boys have written) turns into yet another session of caterwauling about how men have it sooooo hard, and that the evil womenz are the ones with all the real power.
Or, maybe it's not so strange.

 

[TMF Jeff]

Strange, isn't it? How a simple post about female sportswriters being harassed (and decent guys reacting to reading what vile, cowardly little man-boys have written) turns into yet another session of caterwauling about how men have it sooooo hard, and that the evil womenz are the ones with all the real power.
Or, maybe it's not so strange.

It's fucking astonishing.

 

[TMF Jeff]

I notice that you don't have a response to most of my points. Did you digest that information, for example about the reality of women being charged with rape? Or are you just going to move on to the next online argument and say the same untrue thing as if you've never been exposed to the actual facts?

You're just determined to see yourself as the victim, and nothing is going to snap you out of it. But just so you aren't under the impression that you made some kind of point, I will now address your latest round.

They were in a war, and they were desperate for people to join. A male admiral conceived this plan and asked women to participate, because if they didn't England was going to be destroyed. The women who participated were patriots answering an explicit call by their country.

You've lived a sheltered life in a country that has never faced anything like that, so you don't understand what it meant. But whether you understand or not, you should be able to acknowledge that this wasn't the fault of the women involved, if there's even blame to be assigned which there isn't.

Your point about tawny kittaen didn't go over my head, it's a stupid point and here's why. The reason that the football association of whatever made that change was because the person who committed the abuse works for them, and they were in a position where they had to respond to the behavior of one of their players or be accused of continuing to be tolerant of this problem among their people.

Tawny Kittaen doesn't work for the baseball association. Were they supposed to pass a rule saying that people they have no influence or control over will be suspended and penalized? What exactly, in your mind, are these people responsible for? The police arrested her, and the baseball guys have nothing to do with it. I would imagine that they clucked their tongues and wagged their fingers, but that's the extent of their authority over her.

Now despite having that explained in plain english, go ahead and continue to think it's somehow an example of a contradiction, because you're not remotely interested in absorbing any new information, you just want to bleat out the prepared information that you've been fed on these stupid channels that you watch.

You should look up two things - confirmation bias, and the Dunning-Kruger effect, because you are trapped in a swirling tornado of those two forces.

And believe me, as long as there are people with this point of view, I will continue to happily be a contributor to their problem. It's embarrassing to me as a man that there are grown men running around crying that they're not getting enough attention to their owies.

My point is, if you want to discuss online abuse, bullying, or harassment great. But this is only news because the victims are women. If anything this is an exploitation of their harassment for the sake of raiting.

And yes it was an an Admiral who came up with the idea because he knew women could shame men into just about anything, including evidently dieing in war. My point about baseball obviously went over your head, so I'll try to explain. In light of the incident with football player Rey Rice and his fiancée in that elevator they brought in an Anti Domomestic Violence statute. So why didn't they do that years before when the victim was Chuck?

So there is a double standard when it comes to male victims, regardless of the situation. Be it online harassment,ddomestic assault, or sexual assault. You latest responce only proves that you are one of those guys who is a contributor to that problem.

 

[Wolf]

No I wouldn't, and if you would open your eys and watch those two videos (the secound by author Christina H. Sommers "Who Stold Feminism") you wouldn't either, but I guess your fear of the truth makes that impossible. And since I'm not a rich white male I fale to see where that is relevent.
WW 1 had the white feather campaign where women shamed men in the British Commonwealth in to inlisting (some who died) to keep them safe. It was even in the propaganda posters. Pretty amazing how an oppressed group can shame their oppressors huh?
WW 2, The white feather campaign returned, as well as the draft/cconscription into service. In many places women could aready vote, yet none of them were forced in to service. Same with the Korean war as well as Vietnam. I believe it wasn't until after Vietnam that there was any push to get women into front line combat, and only 8% of women in the service have any interest in doing that.

As far as law goes their are comments about that in the videos. Including a refference to the fact that when communities discovered men were abusing thier wives or children they were often (iif not always) flogged. Men who were on the recieving end of abuse were given what was called a Skimmington ride threw town. Things haven't changed much on that front.

Ask yourself why Major League Baseball didn't bring in a Domestice Violence statute when Tawny Kitaen attacked Chuck Finlay while he was driving them somewhere? Probably because they were laughing at him.
Credit card is the easiest one. Back in those days a man would be responsible for covering his wifes debts if she could not. That being the case wouldn't you want to have final say on if she got a credit card?
Sorry for the spelling, I'm doing this from my phone and that red line doesn't show up, and my phone doesn't always give me the word I am looking for.
D.W.
Almost forgot, you mentioned marital rape. Well obviously everbody didn't think that way because the mostly male Government brought in a law for it didn't they? And a mostley male goverment also reinstated the term rape, except not in the United States women canot be charged with rape even if they violate a man while he is sleeping.
Thank you Mary P. Koss you lying troll.

Here are some other "truths" that are obviously true, because there's a YouTube video about them:

PROOF that the earth is flat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cApXPTrOf7A
PROOF that aliens built the pyramids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=086aYkzGwbA
PROOF that Michael Jackson is still alive, and faked his own death: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUR-Vv3zeHg

Are you willing to see the TRUTH, or does your fear of the TRUTH make that impossible?

 

[The_Darkweb]

Here are some other "truths" that are obviously true, because there's a YouTube video about them:

PROOF that the earth is flat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cApXPTrOf7A
PROOF that aliens built the pyramids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=086aYkzGwbA
PROOF that Michael Jackson is still alive, and faked his own death: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUR-Vv3zeHg

Are you willing to see the TRUTH, or does your fear of the TRUTH make that impossible?

Are you still here? Did you watch the videos I linked? Do you have anything to disprove them? Because there is science that disproves the earth is flat, pretty sure their are historical records about slave labour building the pyramids, and if Jackson is still he's going to be pissed that his family sold his house.

So let me know when you have something that actually counters my point. Other wise feel free to ignore the fact the victimhood isn't a monopoly, that it is a human issue and not just a women's issue. Keep throwing your fellow males under the bus if that helps get you laid. I'll treat people like people, because I believe all people deserve to be treated with courtesy, not just the ones with overies.

D.W.

 

[Wolf]

Are you still here? Did you watch the videos I linked? Do you have anything to disprove them? Because there is science that disproves the earth is flat, pretty sure their are historical records about slave labour building the pyramids, and if Jackson is still he's going to be pissed that his family sold his house.

So let me know when you have something that actually counters my point. Other wise feel free to ignore the fact the victimhood isn't a monopoly, that it is a human issue and not just a women's issue. Keep throwing your fellow males under the bus if that helps get you laid. I'll treat people like people, because I believe all people deserve to be treated with courtesy, not just the ones with overies.

D.W.

Dang. I was afraid you wouldn't see what I was trying to show you, so, I'll try to make it clearer. Anyone can make a video spouting their interpretation of "facts". Just because you decide it "proves your case", doesn't mean anyone else has to agree with their interpretation. You can't even admit that your "White Feather" argument was complete bullshit, when it was pointed out that an Admiral (male) came up with it; you still had to blame it on them evil womenz, and their power over menfolk. "And yes it was an an Admiral who came up with the idea because he knew women could shame men into just about anything, including evidently dieing in war" .

And this " Keep throwing your fellow males under the bus if that helps get you laid" argument is pretty telling, as well; what is it about you that assumes people can only have empathy for others if it "helps get them laid"? You don't really want people speculating on why you hate women so much.....do you?

 

[shad0w]

victimhood is not a monopoly... Anyone can be victimized. However how often have you ever been genuinely afraid for your life because of someone insulting you. I expect the likely response will be: "it's just the Internet...deal with it." Yeah, guys get threatened, guys get abused...your naïveté is believing so distinctly that no one cares. No one ever said that it doesn't matter when men are assaulted. BUT.

You know what does nothing to help any of the men your such a stalwart champion of? Attacking women for being attacked as well.

you sitting at your computer complaining someone made mention that these sport writers, who have done no real harm to anyone outside of people deciding they don't like that women can write about sports and disagree with their view.. Does that help men anywhere? What have you actually done to help men. And don't think this is one of those things. All your asking men to do here is be selfish jerks and to attack women as well.

Sorry, the mentality of .. "We could have even more than we already do!" Doesn't fly with me. You said it yourself.... All of this is a human issue. As it turns out, women are human as well. Surprise. Not sex toys, not overlord conquerors, human beings who deserve the equal standing.

You complain over this one post of what women deal with. If you want a complaint piece on what men deal with to "counter-balance"... Look anywhere. It's all over the place. Male opinions. Male views. Male hosts of shows, writers, radio personalities. OUR views are literally everywhere, there is no reason to demonize women getting some space as well. No matter how much you want to be, you aren't a magical victim fighting the horrid oppression of a force finally getting closer to the halfway point in society.

As my mother always said.. Another very wise woman.. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." And you sir, clearly have nothing but feminine-hating dogma to spew.

 

[Wolf]

victimhood is not a monopoly... Anyone can be victimized.

Victimhood may not be a monopoly, but guys like TDW are apparently the majority stockholders;...I mean, you can't even mention someone else being victimized without them throwing a hissy fit.

 

[shad0w]

Didn't you know? It's not important unless it's about us. Shame on you!

 

[Wolf]

Didn't you know? It's not important unless it's about us. Shame on you!

I know, right? I guess I'm not doing the manly man thing correctly...I'm not terrified of all those evil women, I don't throw tantrums like a girl in elementary school, and I am woefully unskilled in using YouTube videos as gospel.
I've got to start listening to more Taylor Swift, I guess.

 

[shad0w]

I know, right? I guess I'm not doing the manly man thing correctly...I'm not terrified of all those evil women, I don't throw tantrums like a girl in elementary school, and I am woefully unskilled in using YouTube videos as gospel.
I've got to start listening to more Taylor Swift, I guess.

you know elementary school boys throw tantrums too. You really need to think about the boys on this. I mean, who else will otherwise.

 

[Wolf]

you know elementary school boys throw tantrums too. You really need to think about the boys on this. I mean, who else will otherwise.

This will be part of a devastating YouTube video soon, I just know it....

 

[The_Darkweb]

victimhood is not a monopoly... Anyone can be victimized. However how often have you ever been genuinely afraid for your life because of someone insulting you. I expect the likely response will be: "it's just the Internet...deal with it." Yeah, guys get threatened, guys get abused...your naïveté is believing so distinctly that no one cares. No one ever said that it doesn't matter when men are assaulted. BUT.

You know what does nothing to help any of the men your such a stalwart champion of? Attacking women for being attacked as well.

you sitting at your computer complaining someone made mention that these sport writers, who have done no real harm to anyone outside of people deciding they don't like that women can write about sports and disagree with their view. Does that help men anywhere? What have you actually done to help men. And don't think this is one of those things. All your asking men to do here is be selfish jerks and to attack women as well.

Sorry, the mentality of .. "We could have even more than we already do!" Doesn't fly with me. You said it yourself.... All of this is a human issue. As it turns out, women are human as well. Surprise. Not sex toys, not overlord conquerors, human beings who deserve the equal standing.

You complain over this one post of what women deal with. If you want a complaint piece on what men deal with to "counter-balance"... Look anywhere. It's all over the place. Male opinions. Male views. Male hosts of shows, writers, radio personalities. OUR views are literally everywhere, there is no reason to demonize women getting some space as well. No matter how much you want to be, you aren't a magical victim fighting the horrid oppression of a force finally getting closer to the halfway point in society.

As my mother always said.. Another very wise woman.. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." And you sir, clearly have nothing but feminine-hating dogma to spew.

Just so you know I have been conserned for my life, when I worked in Construction, when I work8ed around heavy machinery in factories, when I was a security guard (I spent several hours tryig to talk a young woman in to going to a womens shelter, like all us "misogynist" do on a regular basis). Then their was the time I got mugged by three guys coming back from a 7/11. No I can't say that being threatened over the web has scared me all that much, but then again I'm a man so who would care what I felt anything about anything right Shadow?

At know time have I advicated for men to be sefish or for anyone to attack anybody anybody. That is a slanderous statemen and it shoud be removed. Most, if not everything you've said doesn't aply in any way to anything I've posted on this thread. While I have no doubts that your mother is/was a bright and wise lady it is a shame that you didn't inherit and of those traits. You come across as an ilogical, overly emotional, babbling fool.

I don't recall emplying that women weren't human, in fact I've done just the opposite. I actually see wonen as human beings, unlike Jeff & Wof who can't decide if women are goddess to be worshiped or infints to be coddled. I don't know what your gender is Shadow by my guess is your are either a male who's been taught to hate his own gender so much that you sits down to pee because you're ashamed of your penis. Or you are simply a misandrist female, who's read the "S.CU.M. Manifesto" to many times.

At any rate, your opinion is of no consern to me.

 

[The_Darkweb]

Dang. I was afraid you wouldn't see what I was trying to show you, so, I'll try to make it clearer. Anyone can make a video spouting their interpretation of "facts". Just because you decide it "proves your case", doesn't mean anyone else has to agree with their interpretation. You can't even admit that your "White Feather" argument was complete bullshit, when it was pointed out that an Admiral (male) came up with it; you still had to blame it on them evil womenz, and their power over menfolk. "And yes it was an an Admiral who came up with the idea because he knew women could shame men into just about anything, including evidently dieing in war" .

And this " Keep throwing your fellow males under the bus if that helps get you laid" argument is pretty telling, as well; what is it about you that assumes people can only have empathy for others if it "helps get them laid"? You don't really want people speculating on why you hate women so much.....do you?

I hate women? What have I said that makes you think I hate women? Let me guess, my unwillingness to put them on a pedestal so high I'd need an extension later to kiss their asses like you do. Does that just about sum it up, I'm thinking yes, because you can't tell the difference between courtesy and butt smootching.

 

[Wolf]

I hate women? What have I said that makes you think I hate women? Let me guess, my unwillingness to put them on a pedestal so high I'd need an extension later to kiss their asses like you do. Does that just about sum it up, I'm thinking yes, because you can't tell the differents between courtesy and butt smootching.

Your logic is as sound as your spelling.

 

[The_Darkweb]

Your logic is as sound as your spelling.

Actually my logic is solid as a diamond, it's just to bad you can't stay on topic and have to resort to cheapshots that are unrelated to the discussion. But when you are losing the debate I guess that's how it goes.

D.W.

 

[shad0w]

Just so you know I have been conserned for my life, when I worked in Construction, when I work8ed around heavy machinery in factories, when I was a security guard (I spent several hours tryig to talk a young woman in to going to a womens shelter, like all us "misogynist" do on a regular basis). Then their was the time I got mugged by three guys coming back from a 7/11. No I can't say that being threatened over the web has scared me all that much, but then again I'm a man so who would care what I felt anything about anything right Shadow?

At know time have I advicated for men to be sefish or for anyone to attack anybody anybody. That is a slanderous statemen and it shoud be removed. Most, if not everything you've said doesn't aply in any way to anything I've posted on this thread. While I have no doubts that your mother is/was a bright and wise lady it is a shame that you didn't inherit and of those traits. You come across as an ilogical, overly emotional, babbling fool.

I don't recall emplying that women weren't human, in fact I've done just the opposite. I actually see wonen as human beings, unlike Jeff & Wof who can't decide if women are goddess to be worshiped or infints to be coddled. I don't know what your gender is Shadow by my guess is your are either a male who's been taught to hate his own gender so much that you sits down to pee because you're ashamed of your penis. Or you are simply a misandrist female, who's read the "S.CU.M. Manifesto" to many times.

At any rate, your opinion is of no consern to me.

All of the things you mentioned have nothing to do with what I asked. And I'm in security too, so I'm well aware of the dangers that come with that, BUT. Again.. That's not what I asked. False equivalence. I said..."because of someone insulting you." If you're going to answer, at least try to stick to the subject matter. And if you Had, plenty of people would care. I would. I literally stated the exact opposite of not caring about men being attacked. Only that there is no reason to talk shit about women speaking up about what they experience. So your snide commentary doesn't really make a difference.

I like how you say that I'm slandering you for pointing out exactly what your actions really are with your behaviour, and that I should be ashamed of trying to help you see some actual reality for a change, but in the same paragraph you take the time to insult and slander me with the terms "ilogical, overly emotional, babbling fool."

It's cute really. Firstly, I did not say or imply that you are advocating to attack people. I did however directly state that you're trying to encourage other men to think only of themselves. And you are. There is no slander in fact I'm afraid. You claim that women are "taking over" or responsible for acts that they just aren't at all. It's not only a lie, It's also the same twisted nonsense that get fed to weak-willed men to coerce them into believing that they are truly a victim of society. It's fine if you want to live in that fantasy, all the power to you to do what you want with your own life, but you shouldn't try to ruin others lives in the process.

And aside from that.. I'm not illogical. I've detailed exactly why I say the things I say. You just don't want to believe it because it means shattering that happy world where you are one of the victims of circumstance, battling for justice. I can be emotional, sure. What's wrong with having emotions. Am I supposed to be a big strong sturdy feel nothing dudebro kind of guy? And yes, I am a guy. Expressing your feelings is hardly a character flaw. The last one is too laughable to bother with.

You just aren't aware of how your words actually come out. As proven by that paragraph alone. I went back, and looked re-read everything, just to be sure. None of what anyone else wrote has placed women on any form of pedestal. They did however express far more respect for them than you have. "seeing them as human" is great, and a very important step. Now you just have to respect them too.

Like how you say I must hate my gender. I knew that was coming by the way. I could feel the "your a beta!" ringing in my bones. You're painfully predictable. lol... No.. I don't hate men. I rather like being male.. I have a lot less shit to deal with truthfully. But you sure do passively hate women. Case in point. You say: "that you sits down to pee" like this is an... insult? I don't usually, but I could if I wanted I suppose. Not really the subject though so we'll move past that portion. So what part of something that you clearly see as a feminine trait is insulting? Being feminine in any way is insulting to men too? why? Are men so special they can't do these things because "ew...women do that."

psst. I also wash dishes.. cook food and vacuum. The difference between us.. is you still believe that gender is a separator between people. I'm ashamed of nothing that I do, I do however feel bad for the small box you make yourself live in. I hope you can move past that one day. But... You don't care about my opinion..that's why you replied.

 

[The_Darkweb]

All of the things you mentioned have nothing to do with what I asked. And I'm in security too, so I'm well aware of the dangers that come with that, BUT. Again.. That's not what I asked. False equivalence. I said..."because of someone insulting you." If you're going to answer, at least try to stick to the subject matter. And if you Had, plenty of people would care. I would. I literally stated the exact opposite of not caring about men being attacked. Only that there is no reason to talk shit about women speaking up about what they experience. So your snide commentary doesn't really make a difference.

I like how you say that I'm slandering you for pointing out exactly what your actions really are with your behaviour, and that I should be ashamed of trying to help you see some actual reality for a change, but in the same paragraph you take the time to insult and slander me with the terms "ilogical, overly emotional, babbling fool."

It's cute really. Firstly, I did not say or imply that you are advocating to attack people. I did however directly state that you're trying to encourage other men to think only of themselves. And you are. There is no slander in fact I'm afraid. You claim that women are "taking over" or responsible for acts that they just aren't at all. It's not only a lie, It's also the same twisted nonsense that get fed to weak-willed men to coerce them into believing that they are truly a victim of society. It's fine if you want to live in that fantasy, all the power to you to do what you want with your own life, but you shouldn't try to ruin others lives in the process.

And aside from that.. I'm not illogical. I've detailed exactly why I say the things I say. You just don't want to believe it because it means shattering that happy world where you are one of the victims of circumstance, battling for justice. I can be emotional, sure. What's wrong with having emotions. Am I supposed to be a big strong sturdy feel nothing dudebro kind of guy? And yes, I am a guy. Expressing your feelings is hardly a character flaw. The last one is too laughable to bother with.

You just aren't aware of how your words actually come out. As proven by that paragraph alone. I went back, and looked re-read everything, just to be sure. None of what anyone else wrote has placed women on any form of pedestal. They did however express far more respect for them than you have. "seeing them as human" is great, and a very important step. Now you just have to respect them too.

Like how you say I must hate my gender. I knew that was coming by the way. I could feel the "your a beta!" ringing in my bones. You're painfully predictable. lol... No.. I don't hate men. I rather like being male.. I have a lot less shit to deal with truthfully. But you sure do passively hate women. Case in point. You say: "that you sits down to pee" like this is an... insult? I don't usually, but I could if I wanted I suppose. Not really the subject though so we'll move past that portion. So what part of something that you clearly see as a feminine trait is insulting? Being feminine in any way is insulting to men too? why? Are men so special they can't do these things because "ew...women do that."

psst. I also wash dishes.. cook food and vacuum. The difference between us.. is you still believe that gender is a separator between people. I'm ashamed of nothing that I do, I do however feel bad for the small box you make yourself live in. I hope you can move past that one day. But... You don't care about my opinion..that's why you replied.

Shad0w I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. It's like you are posting on the wrong thread, or have mistaken me for somebody else. I haven't said or emplied any of the stuff you are accusing me of. I'm just pissed off that the only time people care about bad things hapening is when they happen to women. I don't think there is anything wrong with men being angry about that. Maybe you shoud reread that first post again and point out where I say men should only think about themselves. I flat out defy you to find where I wrote that.

Stop putting words in my mouth, your arguments reak of desperation to impress the opposet sex because defending them where they don't need to be defended is your only way to win them over. Coddling the your goddess once again no doubt.

I guesd you missed the part where I said "you sit down to pee, because you are so ashamed to be a man you hate the site of your penis." Again miss quoting me, but thats okay your like a religious nut who ony takes the parts of scripture that suits their needs or compleatly takes things out of contect. You aren't the first misogynist in "male feminist" cothing I've delt with and unfortunately you wont be the last I am sure.

You're like that guy David Futrelle from "We Hunted The Mammoth" He couldn't wait to piss on MRA's MGTOWDs or whoever pissed of feminists that week, because kissing their backsides was the only way he could get laid.The attached picture bellow predicts how you'll inevitably end up.

I'm not obligated to respect anybody. Respect is earned not given. My mother tried to force feed me that "respect women" horse shit from birth. By the time I was 19 I realized women were just as capable of being the pigs men are. That revalation caused a huge rift in my reation ship with my mom for about 10 years, because I felt she had betrayed me. As far as I am concerned my mother is thr biggest deceiver I will ever known in my life. Respect is about character, and no other factors should matter, race, color, gender, creed, or sexual orientation. No group is all good or bad, including women. You learn that ad you'll be better for it.

As it is I have no further time for you. You are irelivent to me and this discution. I stand by my view that you are an ignorant babbling fool. This will be my final reply to you.

 

[shad0w]

Of course you don't, you can't see past your own narrow path. It's ok.

Your view right from the beginning is entirely made up in the first place. who says that no one cares unless it's happening to women. you believe that. That doesn't make it true. And just because it's getting more airtime, as women are at numerous societal disadvantages, does not mean that no one cares when it's happening to others. That is your assumption. It's ok for you to be angry about that...if that is truly what you believe, but not you, I, or any single person should ever speak for "Men." And You have. Passively, with the words you choose. but I already listed it all, if you need to read it again yourself, you know where to find it.

The words are already in your mouth, If anything I'm trying to help you keep them from spilling out and making yourself look worse. I don't have to put anything in there that wasn't already vile. And this is just even more proof positive that you are the one who thinks so little of men... That the only possible reason I could have these opinions in your mind is because I want to attract women somehow. I don't care who's impressed or unimpressed with me, I do what I do because it's right and I can be a good person for the sake of being a good person. Unlike you it seems, My only goal in life when it comes to the opposite sex is not "winning them over." they aren't prizes.

And it certainly isn't sexist for this sort of media to exist. Males can never experience sexism. We can experience prejudice. If you want to talk about how you feel its prejudice that there aren't many media pieces that speak to men's issues, I am totally game for that. I would love to see more work being done for men to be considered viable parents in custody cases and the like. But that isn't what you're here for.. Even if you disingenuously claim you are. You simply want to lash out at the idea that women are getting spotlight...and not you. And since I'm so irrelevant, you should have no problem not replying to that.

 

[shad0w]

Oh, I didn't mis-quote you. Ultimately, nothing you say is truly worth quoting, or ever repeating to another person. And Adding in "ashamed of my penis" wasn't relevant, It was already implied with the first bit, which is still exactly as I said. And you altering stuff last minute hoping to change the nonsense you wrote first won't make you look smarter, sorry.

I also seriously love how you couldn't not reply. You can't help yourself at all can you. You had to do it in an edit so you could hold some form of face. MAN What's it like to have such a rice paper strong ego like that? I'm not the one who's cherry picking data for my benefit, I'm encouraging you to actually consider other's world views. But you won't, because you so narrowly openly believe that people don't deserve respect unless they do something to win it from you. As if you are some how the arbiter of what is and isn't worthy.

Try, respect everyone..but you already said you don't. so. The only thing you get right is that OF COURSE ...no group is all good or bad. Absolutely. I feel like this is the one big thing you at least can manage so far and that's wonderful. Now if you stop reacting to the whole based on only the worst of each...

MRA's are misguided as hell, as are the other overly long and tedious acronym hoards. It's all about selfishness. "Me ME ME. Men! We need to fight cause it's all we ever learned! Attack women because if we push them back down we get to keep that power we never should have had at all!" yeeeeah. If that's what my future would be should I change paths.. I'm glad I have the decency to be where I am. And again you can only think of doing the right thing as looking for sex. You do know men can want other things right? Have OTHER goals? I didn't read your picture.. The stuff you link is likely as toxic as your mentality. But yet again...have fun not answering. -eyeroll-

 

[shad0w]

Shad0w,

All you have to do is look at the Duke University rape scandal and you can see that men can be victims of ssexism. Then again if you had been going to Duke, you probably would have been among the group who harassed the LaCrosse team, you probably believe they were guilty, and probably consider it a miscarriage of justice that their accuser got 30 days in jail.

What you might not know is that the harassment was both condoned & encouraged by the facalty. They were believed to be guilty because they were men accused by a woman of a horrible crime. Thats bigotry, and wen bigotry is condoned by the system it is systemic bigotry. And when systemic bigotry is based on gender it is sexism.

But I know you are to busy hating yyourself for being born a man, and feeling sorry for women for being born women. Thats why you make me want to puke. You try to come across as a pro female, women rights guy, but in actuality people like you do more to hold women back then you could possibly believe.

You don't respect women, you pity them, that means you look downon them, & that makes you the misogynist not me. I hold the same standard for everyone

Oh yeah.. Pm's still count my friend. 😉

And No. Sexism = Prejudice + POWER. Men have power.. societal gifted power. Women don't. If a component is missing, the end result is impossible. Men only get Prejudice. Never sexism. Sorry.

*Oh yeah, and I'm not a misogynist.. that's a person who hates women, which I do not. Or do I apparently just hate all genders now

 

[Wolf]

You're like that guy David Futrelle from "We Hunted The Mammoth" He couldn't wait to piss on MRA's MGTOWDs or whoever pissed of feminists that week, because kissing their backsides was the only way he could get laid.

Keep throwing your fellow males under the bus if that helps get you laid.

My mother tried to force feed me that "respect women" horse shit from birth. By the time I was 19 I realized women were just as capable of being the pigs men are. That revalation caused a huge rift in my reation ship with my mom for about 10 years, because I felt she had betrayed me. As far as I am concerned my mother is thr biggest deceiver I will ever known in my life

Male needs first and formost? Are you from an alternate reality because I've yet to see hear or experience that? All I see is men being sacrifised on a daily bases in an effort to capitulat to female needs. An entire contanent has been built around what women want (that being North America) with absolutly no consern for men who are simply expected to die for the benifit of women.

Kinda seeing a pattern, here....it really is all about getting laid to you, isn't it? If someone disagrees with your bitter, self-pitying, hopelessly twisted view of women, they must be doing it to get laid. So it must be a HUGE issue to you. Well, that, and your Mom.

Male needs first and formost? Are you from an alternate reality because I've yet to see hear or experience that? All I see is men being sacrifised on a daily bases in an effort to capitulat to female needs. An entire contanent has been built around what women want (that being North America) with absolutly no consern for men who are simply expected to die for the benifit of women.

Youre not a veteran, by any chance, are you? 'Cause I am, and I don't remember anything in the Oath of Enlistment about "being sacrificed to capitulate to female needs"; I doubt any of the women I served with remember that, either.