Gas Prices

[paracarl44]

It is about time we bumped this thread up.

It is at $3.49 a gallon and to be about $3.60 by Memorial Day.

 

[Bugman]

$3.39 the gallon here for regular unleaded,with no end in sight.

 

[General Zod]

Diesel is over $4 a gallon in a lot of places What pisses me off is the news reports on the rising gas prices But not on the higher diesel prices

 

[Brock Samson]

A dark storm approaches...and it strikes our wallets!

The word is that $4 will be the normal price for regular unleaded before the end of the summer. Time for the revolution!

 

[Icycle]

I filled up yesterday for $3.89/gallon for regular here in the SF Bay Area. It's supposed to be over $4 up in San Francisco. By all accounts there's no end in sight to the high gas prices. Oil is supposed to stay over $100 a barrel for the foreseeable future.

I don't notice so much, since I bike to work about four days a week. I only have to fill up about once every two weeks.

 

[Goodieluver]

Diesel is over $4 a gallon in a lot of places What pisses me off is the news reports on the rising gas prices But not on the higher diesel prices

They did run stories on when Truckers began striking and slow downs due to the high prices

and thanx to all the monies being funneled to ethanol fuels, food prices are now rising at alarming rates since corn is now being used for that more and less on food.

Also, i paid 3.56 here

Talk is also McCain is working to have the national gas tax gone for the summer

 

[Icycle]

Talk is also McCain is working to have the national gas tax gone for the summer

Even if he manages to get a gas tax holiday through Congress, it is unlikely to do much good. The Federal excise tax on gasoline is only 18.4 cents per gallon. Also, increased demand due to the slightly lower prices is likely result on a new equilibrium price that is not much different at all than the price before the tax holiday. In addition, Congress is considering carbon cap and trade legislation that is likely to raise gas prices.

If you are worried about gas prices, consider walking, biking, or taking transit when possible. When you drive your car, brake and accelerate gently, and keep it under the speed limit.

 

[CrystalLight]

Gas at our cheapest stop is $3.66


Isn't Bush like...sitting on oil?


WTF.

 

[Goodieluver]

Gas at our cheapest stop is $3.66


Isn't Bush like...sitting on oil?


WTF.

No, the companies violating anti trust are sitting on oil and the Greenheads wont let the govt drill anymore on the oil we are sitting on

 

[Ray<3tiklishft]

$3.65 a gallon for regular unleaded.

It's getting so bad that I can't even afford to cut the grass!!!!

 

[C.K. Storyteller]

$3.85 is the highest I've seen where I live. Prices keep going up by the day. . .Pretty soon I'm going to invest in a hovercraft. . .

 

[Bugman]

Regular unleaded is running around $3.50 here.

 

[pseudonym]

If you are worried about gas prices, consider walking, biking, or taking transit when possible.

Trouble is, very few roads are at all suitable for cycling.

I wonder what would happen if a bunch of us got on our bicycles and took over the roads - just spread out so cars couldn't pass and they'd have to go at our speed.

We'd get arrested or run over, probably.

 

[footstink]

way to high here Like $75 a tank

 

[dlsosetx]

Truth is government entities at all levels are profiting from the high prices.A very large percentage of the prices are Federal,state,& local taxes.About 15 years ago I read where on average 38 cents of each gallon was Federal tax alone.I'm sure it's much more now.We have a huge amount of oil on all three coasts & in ANWR we could get if it weren't for radical environmentalists.We also need to go for other renewable fuel sources,biodiesel is the best of these.Check out my thread Biodiesel-A Fuel For The Future on the subject.

 

[RobAce]

Gas here is around $3.54 a gal. I am kind of lucky where as I commute a total of 10-12 miles a day between dropping kids off at school, getting to work and going to the store when needed and my car gets 30-35 mpg. Everything I need is in a good 3-5 mile radius of where I live and a full tank of gas as long as I stick to my routine and no other driving I can 2 to 3 weeks without having to fill back up. When the summer gets here and my kids are with their mom I plan on getting a 10-speed to bike to work, seeing as its only about 2 miles away. It will be great exercise and Ill be doing my part to help out, and save money for trips I plan to take in the summer.
Also one more thing Ive seen, someone (Icycle most likely) can vouch for it or debunk it... that fueling up in the mid-day is not good. Something about expanding gases or something. They say the best time to fill up to get the most out of the gas your getting is dawn or in the evening.

And as I understand a lot of things, its not so much the oil that we need, its more refining capacity.

Rob

 

[Icycle]

Trouble is, very few roads are at all suitable for cycling.

If you invest a little bit of time and effort in learning vehicular cycling skills, you will find that you can ride comfortably, confidently, and safely on a lot more roads that you might initially suspect. If you are interested, your local cycling club or local cycling advocacy organization can recommend good adult cycling skills classes, and can help you select a cycling route that is appropriate for your current skill and comfort level.

I wonder what would happen if a bunch of us got on our bicycles and took over the roads - just spread out so cars couldn't pass and they'd have to go at our speed.

We'd get arrested or run over, probably.

Well, don't do that then! If you obey the traffic laws and follow the principles of vehicular cycling, you won't get cited by the police, and most motorists will happily share the road with you.

 

[Icycle]

Truth is government entities at all levels are profiting from the high prices.A very large percentage of the prices are Federal,state,& local taxes.About 15 years ago I read where on average 38 cents of each gallon was Federal tax alone.I'm sure it's much more now.

That is actually not true. Federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents/gallon and hasn't changed since 1994. According to recent information from the California Department of Energy, all federal, state, and local taxes only account for about $0.38 of every gallon in the state. And since Federal gas taxes are calculated per gallon, they've actually been going down as a percentage of sales with rising gas prices.

Government entities are not profiting from high gas prices. The only people profiting from the high prices are oil companies and nations with large oil reserves.

We have a huge amount of oil on all three coasts & in ANWR we could get if it weren't for radical environmentalists.

The remaining reserves of oil in the United States are just not that large, despite what some conservatives and oil companies might have you believe. For example, ANWR only has somewhere between 7 and 17 months worth of oil at are current rate of consumption. We can not drill our way out our oil supply problem with domestic sources. There simply isn't enough left.

We also need to go for other renewable fuel sources,biodiesel is the best of these.Check out my thread Biodiesel-A Fuel For The Future on the subject.

Biodiesel and other biofuels are not a sustainable long term solution for our transportation fuel shortages. All electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles recharged with renewable electricity are the best options we have for powering private vehicles in the medium to long term.

 

[Icycle]

Gas here is around $3.54 a gal. I am kind of lucky where as I commute a total of 10-12 miles a day between dropping kids off at school, getting to work and going to the store when needed and my car gets 30-35 mpg. Everything I need is in a good 3-5 mile radius of where I live and a full tank of gas as long as I stick to my routine and no other driving I can 2 to 3 weeks without having to fill back up. When the summer gets here and my kids are with their mom I plan on getting a 10-speed to bike to work, seeing as its only about 2 miles away. It will be great exercise and Ill be doing my part to help out, and save money for trips I plan to take in the summer.

It sounds like you are in an excellent position to start cycling for a significant portion of your transportation needs. As you point out, you'll save money, and get great exercise in the process. And if you add a rack to your bike, you can probably even manage to do most of your shopping by bike too.

Have you considered having your kids bike to school, or biking to school with them? With computers and video games, and cutbacks in school P.E. programs, most kids these days aren't getting enough physical activity, so riding bikes to school is probably good for their health.

Also one more thing Ive seen, someone (Icycle most likely) can vouch for it or debunk it... that fueling up in the mid-day is not good. Something about expanding gases or something. They say the best time to fill up to get the most out of the gas your getting is dawn or in the evening.

There is a small kernel of truth here. Gasoline expands when it warms up, so in mid-day there will be slightly less gasoline per gallon than early in the morning or late in the evening. But the effect is small enough that you probably shouldn't worry about it. Also, refueling in mid-day tends to release more gasoline vapor, which can adversely affect local air quality, especially during the summer smog season.

And as I understand a lot of things, its not so much the oil that we need, its more refining capacity.

Limited refining capacity is a small factor in the current high gas prices. But high global demand and the weak dollar are more likely the main culprits of our current gas price crisis.

 

[resptimes]

$3.75/gallon in NYC...

Sweetness....

 

[tickledgirl]

Limited refining capacity is a small factor in the current high gas prices. But high global demand and the weak dollar are more likely the main culprits of our current gas price crisis.

Yep. Oil prices are astronomically high, almost double previous levels. And they're not likely to be dropping drastically unless demand crashes for some reason. (Like a worldwide depression...)

For a while now, there's been talk of a phenomenon called "peak oil." We're there now. The oil supply has peaked. There's no excess capacity, and the remaining reserves are harder and harder to reach. We've reached the maximum level of oil supply, but demand keeps heading up. Playing around with taxes (like McCain gas tax "holiday") won't repeal the laws of supply and demand. Limited supply + growing demand = higher and higher prices.

Cheap gas prices (and air travel and home heating oil and etc) are things of the past.

 

[Icycle]

For a while now, there's been talk of a phenomenon called "peak oil." We're there now. The oil supply has peaked. There's no excess capacity, and the remaining reserves are harder and harder to reach.

The evidence is quite compelling that we are at or near global peak oil production. With oil prices at a record high, if any producers had any spare oil production capacity in reserve, they would be strongly incented to bring that capacity online to take advantage of high prices. The fact that oil production has been relatively flat in recent months and years against rising demand and rising prices suggests that they can't raise production.

We've reached the maximum level of oil supply, but demand keeps heading up. Playing around with taxes (like McCain gas tax "holiday") won't repeal the laws of supply and demand. Limited supply + growing demand = higher and higher prices.

Cheap gas prices (and air travel and home heating oil and etc) are things of the past.

Agreed. Absolutely the best thing we can do personally and collectively in America is to reduce our demand for oil. Gasoline consumption is actually declining in the United States right now, which is almost unheard of. So people are already starting to change their habits. But we need to go much further.

 

[maniactickler]

Yep. Oil prices are astronomically high, almost double previous levels. And they're not likely to be dropping drastically unless demand crashes for some reason. (Like a worldwide depression...)

For a while now, there's been talk of a phenomenon called "peak oil." We're there now. The oil supply has peaked. There's no excess capacity, and the remaining reserves are harder and harder to reach. We've reached the maximum level of oil supply, but demand keeps heading up. Playing around with taxes (like McCain gas tax "holiday") won't repeal the laws of supply and demand. Limited supply + growing demand = higher and higher prices.

Cheap gas prices (and air travel and home heating oil and etc) are things of the past.

OMG! actual common sense on one thing from a liberal. be still my heart! yes, we need to reduce the demand. now for the lack of common sense from liberals. they dont understand we need to drill for oil here and build refineries! hey, maybe this is a start for you libs?

 

[kered]

Three dollars and sixty-four fucking cents.

 

[CurtWild]

did a lot of driving today and saw prices (for regular) ranging from 3.65 to 3.85