Hollyweird strikes again.

[chicago]

They should remake this movie

 

[The Internet]

Who's forcing you to see these movies blind like that? Personally, I generally know about a movie before I go and see it.

What are you talking about? I don't go see movies blind (usually). In fact I hardly go see movies at all anymore! And just because I read the reviews about a movie, or have people tell me it's good, that means it's good?

"Eyes Wide Shut" got good reviews. I thought it sucked, horribly. And I'm a Kubrick fanatic! Now...the reviews for that movie ain't so good. Then? With the hype? Four stars. lol. You ever see "Eyes Wide Shut"?

Dude, your whole comment is ridiculous, as far as how it applies to me! I can count the number of times on one hand I've walked into a movie theatre and not known anything about the film. Hell, I've gotten paid to write movie reviews! You have assumed much in your comment thats just ridiculous.

Nor did I say EVERY remake is bad! But you know what Jeff....if you're telling me that you have a problem sitting through a movie that was made in 1965, then I think YOU have a problem. I mean, that's just bizarre to me, and I encounter it all the time......I don't relate, my whole life I've digested art from all time periods, I just watched "For A Few Dollars More" (1965, Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef) and it was fantastic. I have no sympathy for that point of view, at all, never did.

Your analysis of how they used to make movies and the way the pace them then and now is just ridiculous, I'm sorry buddy, I love you, but I can't take any of this seriously. Go watch these shitty movies where it's just cut-cut-cut and that's what passes for an action sequence....and I'll watch great stuff.

Back to your first sentence : NO ONE is forcing me to watch these shitty movies. I don't watch them! You do! Other people do, and then they come here and they say: "Ghostbusters 3 sucked". Really? Big surprise!

 

[Wolf]

What are you talking about? I don't go see movies blind (usually). In fact I hardly go see movies at all anymore! And just because I read the reviews about a movie, or have people tell me it's good, that means it's good?
"Eyes Wide Shut" got good reviews. I thought it sucked, horribly. And I'm a Kubrick fanatic! Now...the reviews for that movie ain't so good. Then? With the hype? Four stars. lol. You ever see "Eyes Wide Shut"?
Dude, your whole comment is ridiculous, as far as how it applies to me! I can count the number of times on one hand I've walked into a movie theatre and not known anything about the film. Hell, I've gotten paid to write movie reviews! You have assumed much in your comment thats just ridiculous.
Nor did I say EVERY remake is bad! But you know what Jeff....if you're telling me that you have a problem sitting through a movie that was made in 1965, then I think YOU have a problem. I mean, that's just bizarre to me, and I encounter it all the time......I don't relate, my whole life I've digested art from all time periods, I just watched "For A Few Dollars More" (1965, Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef) and it was fantastic. I have no sympathy for that point of view.
Your analysis of how they used to make movies and the way the pace them then and now is just ridiculous, I'm sorry buddy, I love you, but I can't take any of this seriously. Go watch these shitty movies where it's just cut-cut-cut and that's what passes for an action sequence.
Back to your first sentence :NO ONE is forcing me to watch these shitty movies. I don't watch them! You do! Other people do, and they come here and then they say: "Ghostbuster 3 sucked".

Would it help with all this stress if I told you that Hollywood doesn't make bad movies to piss you off personally?

 

[The Internet]

They should remake this movie

You should write it!

 

[chicago]

Screenplay is writing itself here.

 

[TMF Jeff]

What are you talking about? I don't go see movies blind (usually). In fact I hardly go see movies at all anymore! And just because I read the reviews about a movie, or have people tell me it's good, that means it's good?

"Eyes Wide Shut" got good reviews. I thought it sucked, horribly. And I'm a Kubrick fanatic! Now...the reviews for that movie ain't so good. Then? With the hype? Four stars. lol. You ever see "Eyes Wide Shut"?

Dude, your whole comment is ridiculous, as far as how it applies to me! I can count the number of times on one hand I've walked into a movie theatre and not known anything about the film. Hell, I've gotten paid to write movie reviews! You have assumed much in your comment thats just ridiculous.

Nor did I say EVERY remake is bad! But you know what Jeff....if you're telling me that you have a problem sitting through a movie that was made in 1965, then I think YOU have a problem. I mean, that's just bizarre to me, and I encounter it all the time......I don't relate, my whole life I've digested art from all time periods, I just watched "For A Few Dollars More" (1965, Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef) and it was fantastic. I have no sympathy for that point of view, at all, never did.

Your analysis of how they used to make movies and the way the pace them then and now is just ridiculous, I'm sorry buddy, I love you, but I can't take any of this seriously. Go watch these shitty movies where it's just cut-cut-cut and that's what passes for an action sequence....and I'll watch great stuff.

Back to your first sentence : NO ONE is forcing me to watch these shitty movies. I don't watch them! You do! Other people do, and then they come here and they say: "Ghostbusters 3 sucked". Really? Big surprise!

So if you don't like a movie, then they ripped you off by making that movie and charging for it? Grow up, man.

 

[The Internet]

Would it help with all this stress if I told you that Hollywood doesn't make bad movies to piss you off personally?

What stress? Wolf, I'm an Italian Aries living in New York City who types 90wpm and talks even faster.......I exhaust everybody, including myself. Zeal? Yes. Enthusiasm? Energy? Yes. Stress? You have to be kidding me.

 

[The Internet]

So if you don't like a movie, then they ripped you off by making that movie and charging for it? Grow up, man.

No, not at all. In fact, I don't get ripped off in movies very often...you people do. I won't watch that crap. "The Honeymooners- The Movie!" lol.

And now it's "grow up man"? lol. I think you're taking this a little to personally bud. But hey, by all means, go enjoy the crappy remake of "Goodfellas" and "The Godfather" when they get around to making them... and I'll keep watching good stuff.

And by the way....I'm SURE there are movies from the 60s that you like. "Planet of the Apes"? Just rewatched it, amazing. Fifty times better than the remake, just as potent as ever. You're going to tell me "Planet of the Apes" was slow and plodding???

 

[The Internet]

Screenplay is writing itself here.

Don't you have to push a button every time you read a comment of mine, Chicago? lol You sure like reading me!

"Tit For Tat"
Produced by Bugman
Directed by Leo (naturally)
Starrrrring: Wolf, Jeff, Cosmo....a very special guest appearance by Arizona.....and, as the evil villain: Internet.

Scene one:

The Internet: ....but I have neither tit, nor tat!

Wolf: Will it help you with all this stress if I tell you that Jeff is right outside the door with words of wisdom for you?

(door opens, enter Jeff)

TMF Jeff: Grow up, man.

Chicago: Hmmm, Jeff beat me to the snark.

Internet: Hark! Methinks I hear a lady afoot! But that lady has no foot! What the.....?

(something like that, Chicago?) 🙂

Anyways, "Tit For Tat" would NOT be a good remake.....because it's a movie nobody knows and loves already! 😛

 

[The Internet]

This has somehow turned into my favorite thread ever, lol.

 

[TMF Jeff]

I would love to know who this "you people" is that you keep directing at me. What do you know about what I've seen and what my reactions have been, that makes you think I'm part of this imaginary group you've got in your head that are being ripped off by movies that they knew they wanted to see and then saw. Sometimes when you experience art, you're not going to like it. And some art that you don't personally like is still good art that is enjoyed by other people who have different taste. That's the nature of art, as I'm sure you know.

Planet of the Apes was slow and plodding. It seemed exciting compared to what had come before it, but compared to a modern science fiction movie, barely anything even happens in it. The first remake with Mark Wahlberg was horrible, but the second one with James Franco and Andy Serkis was awesome. And it was something you could show a sixteen year-old today and he's not going to look at you like you're trying to get him to watch a medieval Punch and Judy puppet show, which is almost certainly the reaction you're going to get if you show him Charlton Heston chewing on the scenery and a bunch of people stiffly flapping their plastic ape lips in the original. Most movies just don't age very well, it's not a particularly endurable medium, nor was it ever intended to be.

Technology evolves, acting techniques change as people's expectations change, and storytelling adapts to a new audience pretty much every generation. A Young Adult book when I was a kid would not be interesting to a kid today. It would be perfectly reasonable for them to take the Encyclopedia Brown books and rewrite them so they make sense to someone living in the 21st century. And if they wrote shitty books, it wouldn't mean it was a bad thing to do, it would just mean that they wrote some bad books, just like the thousands of bad books that are written every year from an original idea. It would be like saying "The first season of Sesame Street was perfect, they shouldn't bother making new ones for a modern generation."

You're somehow taking it personally that someone is having the balls to make a movie that you don't personally like, like it's an insult that they failed to meet some standard of quality that you've arbitrarily established for film.

I mean, I don't like the Transformers, I think the whole franchise is idiotic. But the idiocy of those movies has nothing to do with me - I've never seen them, never would see them, and don't care who sees them. There's apparently an audience for that, so good for them. I hope they made a shitload of money because it was distributed by Dreamworks, and Dreamworks will take all that money, and they'll make many movies that I probably will like.

No, not at all. In fact, I don't get ripped off in movies very often...you people do.

And now it's "grow up man"? lol. I think you're taking this a little to personally bud. But hey, by all means, go enjoy the crappy remake of "Goodfellas" and "The Godfather" when they get around to making them... and I'll keep watching good stuff.

And by the way....I'm SURE there are movies from the 60s that you like. "Planet of the Apes"? Just rewatched it, amazing. Fifty times better than the remake, just as potent as ever. You're going to tell me "Planet of the Apes" was slow and plodding???

 

[Cosmo_ac]

-The audience suffers if they pay for a movie and it sucks! The audience suffers even if they DON'T pay for the movie and it sucks. They've just invested at least an hour (or three) of their time!

The audience can walk out whenever they want. If they don't pay for the movie, and don't like it, they have even less sympathy headed their way. People have a choice. They can look at trailers, reviews, opinions of movies, and decide if they want to watch it or not. The choice is there's.

-Their strategy of "playing it safe" has really paid off for them! Movie attendance has been going down for a years, for a variety of reasons, and quality of product is one. Last year it was down to a 19-year low.

I'm guessing that it has more to deal with movie pirating more then anything. I mean, if you can watch the movie for free, why pay for a movie? I know that movie pirating isn't exactly new, but still, that's where I'm going to put my money. Also, as was pointed out in an earlier thread, plenty of original movies have came out. I mean, last year, how many movies that came out were remakes? 3, maybe 4 out of what, 20? 30?

-They just market things for a big opening weekend: dupe as many people as you can before the word gets out "don't go see it, it sucks". I understand that's their business model....so sorry that it bothers you that I don't dutifully buy a ticket for the remake of "Arthur".

I'm not bothered at all. I didn't make a thread about it. If you don't want to see a movie, that's fine. I don't see every movie either.

-Buying a movie ticket doesn't mean the person liked the movie. Did you ever notice how most movies that are number one now only stay there for a week or a two? Why do you think that is? Guess what, buddy, that wasn't always the case!

Of course it doesn't. Whoever said that? Buying a ticket means that a person was willing to take a gamble and pay for what they thought was a good movie. I'm sorry, did you think that if a person paid for a ticket, they were guaranteed that what they watched was the perfect movie? That when you put money down, that you were entitled to feel exactly what you want, how you want, when you want? Sadly, it doesn't work like that.

And so...because THEY don't want to take the gamble, I'M not taking the gamble. Tell me, what's different now from the previous hundred years about risk and the cost of production in the movie business? The only difference between now and then is who's greenlighting the movies, that's it.

And I'm sure they will miss your patronage. As for what's different...do you really need to ask? Pirating, politics, advertising, international investors, international markets, and probably a dozen different things I don't know. The point is that the film industry has changed a lot in the last hundred years. To pretend otherwise is to live in ignorance.

When you go to a restaurant, do you want the food to be good? If you go to the restaurant, and it takes an hour and ten minutes for them to bring you a drink, do you say "oh well, they had a busy night, it's tough being a restaurant!" I'm sorry it bothers YOU that I don't settle for dogshit. It's my time and money and guess what: I hardly ever have that familiar-sensation that prompts one to say: "that movie sucked, what a waste of my time and money".

When I go to a restaurant, I want it to be a fucking banquet of ecstasy. I want the chef to deliver me roasted unicorn, with a side of rainbow, and a pint of hope and dreams, and have the waitress with her DD tits, and her best friend, with her DDD tits, to suck my twelve inch dick as I eat the food. Sadly, I don't always get what I hope for. Every time I sit down to eat, though, I realize that. I know the risks, and take a gamble.

 

[Wolf]

Don't you have to push a button every time you read a comment of mine, Chicago? lol You sure like reading me!
"Tit For Tat"
Produced by Bugman
Directed by Leo (naturally)
Starrrrring: Wolf, Jeff, Cosmo....a very special guest appearance by Arizona.....and, as the evil villain: Internet.
Scene one:
The Internet: ....but I have neither tit, nor tat!
Wolf: Will it help you with all this stress if I tell you that Jeff is right outside the door with words of wisdom for you?
(door opens, enter Jeff)
TMF Jeff: Grow up, man.
Chicago: Hmmm, Jeff beat me to the snark.
Internet: Hark! Methinks I hear a lady afoot! But that lady has no foot! What the.....?
(something like that, Chicago?) 🙂
Anyways, "Tit For Tat" would NOT be a good remake.....because it's a movie nobody knows and loves already! 😛

Writing a screenplay while you're coked up is so 1990s.

 

[The Internet]

So much to get through Cosmo, I'll just randomly cherry pick a few, ok?

I'm not bothered at all. I didn't make a thread about it.

Neither did I.

Of course it doesn't. Whoever said that? Buying a ticket means that a person was willing to take a gamble .

Great! And I'm saying that when movie studios took more gambles....AND DIDN'T GREEN LIGHT MOVIES BY COMMITTEE....you got better quality movies. Record companies also. Period. You don't agree, then watch and listen the doggy doo-doo! That's your preogative! i value my time and money more.

And I'm sure they will miss your patronage.

Oh, they do. Every business wants customers, buddy. Didn't they teach you that? You know anybody in the movie business? They want people in the seats, trust me.

As for what's different...do you really need to ask? Pirating, politics, advertising, international investors, international markets, and probably a dozen different things I don't know.

Advertising, international investors and international markets, you think they just cropped up? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Buddy....you just don't know what you're talking about. Pirating? Ask George Melies about pirating! Pirating is how the movie business got started! Yes, it's taken a bite out of the industry....but the decline started before massive pirating!

Yeah, there's "about a dozen things (you) don't know".

The point is that the film industry has changed a lot in the last hundred years. To pretend otherwise is to live in ignorance.

....said the man, living in ignorance about the last hundred years of the movie business.

When I go to a restaurant, I want it to be a fucking banquet of ecstasy. I want the chef to deliver me roasted unicorn, with a side of rainbow, and a pint of hope and dreams, and have the waitress with her DD tits, and her best friend, with her DDD tits, to suck my twelve inch dick as I eat the food. Sadly, I don't always get what I hope for.

You never go into a restaurant with those expectations, ever. But I will tell you this: if you went into a restaruant and it sucked....you'd say it sucked.

 

[The Internet]

Writing a screenplay while you're coked up is so 1990s.

I don't do coke, man! But writing a screenplay all coked up is actually VERY 2016, hate to break the news to you.

 

[The Internet]

I would love to know who this "you people" is that you keep directing at me.

Sorry, I was talking to the group at large in that comment, not just you. talking to the people who are so offended because I'm agreeing with Bugman that the movie business relies too much on sequels, remakes and adaptions of tv shows and comic books.

Planet of the Apes was slow and plodding. It seemed exciting compared to what had come before it, but compared to a modern science fiction movie, barely anything even happens in it. The first remake with Mark Wahlberg was horrible, but the second one with James Franco and Andy Serkis was awesome. And it was something you could show a sixteen year-old today and he's not going to look at you like you're trying to get him to watch a medieval Punch and Judy puppet show,

LOL!!!!! Bro, I can't even speak, I mean....... where do you even begin?!!!! Maybe I should let that stand! Wow. Hmmmmm. Well how about this, because you've done this already twice: don't speak for the imaginary 16-year old, or 12-year old! Don't presume to know what they may or may not like. I HATED being condescended to in movies when I was 16, or even 12, I could smell it a mile away. I- and my friends - had excellent taste in movies and music when I was 16, same as I do now..... I didn't need it spoonfed to me....i was able to make the jump: "oh, this is a movie from the 30s, ok, let's see how they did things then, and why....."... I have no sympathy for a dumb-downed populace that has no intellectual curiosity about what's gone before. None whatsoever.

You must have been raised on a diet of 80s teen shit on cable or something, I don't know, I don't know why you have such a problem with something as basic as the original "Planet of the Apes".......whatever the reason, if you omit everything pre-1970 (or whatever your cut off date is), you're omitting some of the greatest movies ever made, period. Your loss. Sorry, I don't need a movie to have last year's slang in it for me to enjoy it. I definitely didn't need that when I was 16. A good piece of art has no shelf life. Milagros' comment under a one-hundred year old movie I posted two days ago testifies to that.

no hard feelings, Jeff!

 

[Cosmo_ac]

So much to get through Cosmo, I'll just randomly cherry pick a few, ok?

I'm sure you'll do what makes you happy.

Neither did I.

At least we have that in common.

Great! And I'm saying that when movie studios took more gambles....AND DIDN'T GREEN LIGHT MOVIES BY COMMITTEE....you got better quality movies. Record companies also. Period. You don't agree, then watch and listen the doggy doo-doo! That's your preogative! i value my time and money more.

Based on what? Do you have any statistics to base this on, or is it simply your opinion? I mean, depending on when you are talking about, a lot of ideas were more original then before.

Oh, they do. Every business wants customers, buddy. Didn't they teach you that? You know anybody in the movie business? They want people in the seats, trust me.

Sure they do. But do they want you, personally, in the theater, or are they happy to have somebody else in your seat? Seems to me that, generally speaking, they wouldn't care who buys a ticket.

As for what's different...do you really need to ask? Pirating, politics, advertising, international investors, international markets, and probably a dozen different things I don't know.
Advertising, international investors and international markets, you think they just cropped up? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Buddy....you just don't know what you're talking about. Pirating? Ask George Melies about pirating! Pirating is how the movie business got started! Yes, it's taken a bite out of the industry....but the decline started before massive pirating!

Yeah, there's "about a dozen things (you) don't know".

Just cropped up? What year are you talking about? When did then just crop up? When did international films become a focus? Please, do tell. And please, do share when pirating of video's started to take a bite out of the industry. Certainly there re degrees.

....said the man, living in ignorance about the last hundred years of the movie business.

By all means, feel free to educate me.

You never go into a restaurant with those expectations, ever. But I will tell you this: if you went into a restaruant and it sucked....you'd say it sucked.

What makes you say that? Can you read minds suddenly?

 

[Wolf]

Sorry, I was talking to the group at large in that comment, not just you. talking to the people who are so offended because I'm agreeing with Bugman that the movie business relies too much on sequels, remakes and adaptions of tv shows and comic books.



LOL!!!!! Bro, I can't even speak, I mean....... where do you even begin?!!!! Maybe I should let that stand! Wow. Hmmmmm. Well how about this, because you've done this already twice: don't speak for the imaginary 16-year old, or 12-year old! Don't presume to know what they may or may not like. I HATED being condescended to in movies when I was 16, or even 12, I could smell it a mile away. I- and my friends - had excellent taste in movies and music when I was 16, same as I do now..... I didn't need it spoonfed to me....i was able to make the jump: "oh, this is a movie from the 30s, ok, let's see how they did things then, and why....."... I have no sympathy for a dumb-downed populace that has no intellectual curiosity about what's gone before. None whatsoever.

You must have been raised on a diet of 80s teen shit on cable or something, I don't know, I don't know why you have such a problem with something as basic as the original "Planet of the Apes".......whatever the reason, if you omit everything pre-1970 (or whatever your cut off date is), you're omitting some of the greatest movies ever made, period. Your loss. Sorry, I don't need a movie to have last year's slang in it for me to enjoy it. I definitely didn't need that when I was 16. A good piece of art has no shelf life. Milagros' comment under a one-hundred year old movie I posted two days ago testifies to that.
no hard feelings, Jeff!

WTF is it with you and these weird personal "observations" and statements about people you don't know, while telling them that they're taking things personally?

 

[The Internet]

WTF is it with you and these weird personal "observations" and statements about people you don't know, while telling them that they're taking things personally?

The same thing it is with everyone else - including you - who always have these weird personal "observations" about me (who no one knows - and which are often WILDLY off base...), and telling me not to take things personally! Does that answer your question?

But hey...Wolf.....let's not hijack another thread with analysis of everyone on the board. What's your favorite recent remake?

Mine would be..................hmmmmm..............Cape Fear? That's like early 90s! Um........there's got to be one......jeesh, there's got to be something after Cape Fear!!!

The Vanishing? With Jeff Bridges?

 

[The Internet]

Based on what? Do you have any statistics to base this on, or is it simply your opinion? I mean, depending on when you are talking about, a lot of ideas were more original then before.

What are you asking me...hold on, let me sound this out...."a lot of ideas were more original than before"......what?
Are you asking me how do I know the process by which they pick movies to make? Oh, I see....how do I know things were better? Ha, if you have to ask that question, I can't help you, kid. You either know or you're part of the bewildered herd. Time will tell, history will prove me right or wrong. We'll see what remains and falls away. I feel like I have an impeccable record of picking horses....but there's no accounting for taste. If you think "these are the days, baby!", well then they are. 🙂

Sure they do. But do they want you, personally, in the theater, or are they happy to have somebody else in your seat? Seems to me that, generally speaking, they wouldn't care who buys a ticket.

Well then you know nothing about marketing which targets specific groups of people. And even less about business which aims to maximize profit. You want people in the seats.

Just cropped up? What year are you talking about? When did then just crop up? When did international films become a focus? Please, do tell. And please, do share when pirating of video's started to take a bite out of the industry. Certainly there re degrees.

Everything you mentioned was all in place back in the silent era.....all you had to do was change the title cards and you could show your movie anywhere! The reason they kept delaying sound production was because they were going to have to cut their audience by a huge percentage! Movie attendance has never, ever been as big as it was back then. No one has ever been as famous as Chaplin and Pickford, ever! Those movies were shown in Africa, China, Russia, anywhere there was a movie screen, or a sheet put up in a hut to project movies on, they would watch Chaplin and Fairbanks and the whole lot of them. They were enthusiastically promoted all over the entire globe. Foreign films also did well here in the states, a lot better then than they do now! The average person went to the movies once a week! Film started as an international medium, buddy! It started as the whole globe being your market. Not just Anyplace, USA.

Advertising costs, you mentioned that before...once again, do you want me to post a bunch of movie ephemra from 1915? International investors? That's how feature films got started, Adolph Zukor brought over Sarah Bernhardt as Queen Elizabeth in 1913, that's how Paramount got started (he was the President of Paramount from 1914 till 1976!) But lets get more current. They've been advertising movies on TV forever. What do you think, the rates just went up? They've been advertising movies in newspapers forever. Posters in subways. Billboards. What do you think, movie advertising just began in 2001?

When did pirating take a bite out of the industry? It put George Melies out of business by 1913. VHS and DVD bootlegs of movies have been around since the 80s, I remember them crying about VCRs (and cassettes) in the 80s. Definitely pirating has taken a major chunk out of the movie business, but moreso the music business. But i don't pirate movies. And I don't know any people who are calling me up: "Hey, Leo, I just got a pirate DVD of the new Tarantino movie".

If you think they're relying on remakes and sequels because of piracy, you're way off the mark. Those are the movies that get pirated the most!

Buddy....you are talking about something you know little about, and which I know a little something about.

By all means, feel free to educate me.

I think I just did.

What makes you say that? Can you read minds suddenly?

Touche! Fair enough! I hope you get your wish one day, Cosmo, what was your wish again? You wanted the waitress to blow you? Blow you while you ate? Cool....no tickling, interestingly enough!.......

 

[Vanillaphant]

I don’t know much about the film industry, but I’m inclined to agree with the view that it comes down mainly to financial caution. And maybe that has something to do with the Hollywood film industry’s lessening might in the age of Netflix and digital whateverthefucks...? *shrug*

There’s still something a little cynical about it, though – you can’t really get around that.

“Remember that film from years ago that you really liked?”
“Duh…?”
“Well we’re going to make it again!”
“Duh?!”
“And I promise you’re going to absolutely love it!”
“Duh!!!” (starts applauding like a happy toddler) lol

If people were just a little more discerning where they’re cinema ticket choices were concerned, I reckon crappy remakes of classics would die out soon enough.
But like I say, that’s just my impression. I could be wrong.

Right. That said, I’ll let you all get back to scratching each other’s eyes out and hitting each other with your handbags. lol! 😛

 

[Wolf]

I don’t know much about the film industry, but I’m inclined to agree with the view that it comes down mainly to financial caution. And maybe that has something to do with the Hollywood film industry’s lessening might in the age of Netflix and digital whateverthefucks...? *shrug*
There’s still something a little cynical about it, though – you can’t really get around that.
“Remember that film from years ago that you really liked?”
“Duh…?”
“Well we’re going to make it again!”
“Duh?!”
“And I promise you’re going to absolutely love it!”
“Duh!!!” (starts applauding like a happy toddler) lol
If people were just a little more discerning where they’re cinema ticket choices were concerned, I reckon crappy remakes of classics would die out soon enough.
But like I say, that’s just my impression. I could be wrong.
Right. That said, I’ll let you all get back to scratching each other’s eyes out and hitting each other with your handbags. lol! 😛

I think you're on the mark. I'd say financial caution and intellectual laziness. They'll do prestige movies for the Oscars, but the bulk is crap. They know their market.
Going out to a movie is still (expensive) fun, and it'll always be a go-to date venue.
But for that industry to stay alive, you've got to deal with stuff like crappy remakes.

 

[The Internet]

I don’t know much about the film industry, but I’m inclined to agree with the view that it comes down mainly to financial caution. And maybe that has something to do with the Hollywood film industry’s lessening might in the age of Netflix and digital whateverthefucks...? *shrug*

There’s still something a little cynical about it, though – you can’t really get around that.

“Remember that film from years ago that you really liked?”
“Duh…?”
“Well we’re going to make it again!”
“Duh?!”
“And I promise you’re going to absolutely love it!”
“Duh!!!” (starts applauding like a happy toddler) lol

If people were just a little more discerning where they’re cinema ticket choices were concerned, I reckon crappy remakes of classics would die out soon enough.
But like I say, that’s just my impression. I could be wrong.

Right. That said, I’ll let you all get back to scratching each other’s eyes out and hitting each other with your handbags. lol! 😛

....I'm still picking up all the stuff that fell out of my handbag! lol.

Netflix and You Tube and people playing on computers, video games, etc have had a major impact on the movie business, but this remake-craze started in the 90s, before all the piracy and computer stuff, it's just intellectual laziness, as Wolf (and I, in previous comments on this thread) said. And Vanillaphant! "Hey, let's make the Adams Family a movie!" "Let's make another Halloween!", "Let's remake Psycho!"

I was watching an interview with Paul Mazursky ("Down And Out In Beverly Hills"). He said - as director after director have said - "it's all changed. Now when you go in to pitch a movie, you're talking to a group of people." Compare that to Warren Beatty going into Jack Warner's office and talking him into making "Bonnie & Clyde", which he had no interest in making, he just wanted Beatty out of his office. That's the difference between then and now.

You ever see "The Player"? That gives you an idea of what the business turned into in the 80s and hasn't changed all that much since (and that movie was made in 1991, I think).

 

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Michael Caine:

"My view is that you should always do remakes of failures. Then you've got nowhere to go but up, you know? They can't say, "Well, it's not as good as the original, you made a piece of crap". They'd just say, "What a piece of crap that was," anyway."

"If I made a film like "The Swarm", I would make three very quickly before it came out, so I always survived failure - because I had a hit. People say: 'Why did you do "Jaws: The Revenge"?'. They paid me $1million for 10 days... I come from a very poor background so I wanted to do everything for everyone. Every one of my family got a house. That was the attitude I had. I'm either going to get the Academy Award or I'm going to make a lot of money, I still base it on that."

 

[The Internet]

Ha! I know that quote! Yes!! He's totally right! Trouble is they make remakes of great movies.

Ironically, Caine won the Oscar when he was making Jaws 4 and couldn't go to the ceremony, lol. He says he's never seen Jaws 4, ever.

Now talk about a lame remake...how could anybody play "Alfie" other than Michael Caine (with all due respect to Jude Law)?