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How important is the attractiveness of a tickling video model to you?

The Last Laugh

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Hello everyone!

This is Francois from The Last Laugh. Since feedback from potential customers and other helpful people is a very valuable tool, I'm posting this message to get your opinion on something that might guide my choice of models for future videos.

By the way, I apologize for the length of this message. I tend to have trouble being concise, to the point that it sometimes gets ridiculous. My bad. Also, the issues I'm discussing here might seem somewhat shallow by some people. I actually agree with that point of view to some extent, but it's a necessary evil in this business. I truly apologize if this offends anyone.

Recruiting new models isn't easy. At least not here in Quebec City. It's not a very big city, and people tend to be somewhat conservative. This isn't like New York, Los Angeles, or even Montreal. You'd think I'd have all the models I need and more, what with my living right next to a 30,000+ student campus, but it's not really the case.

I do get a decent number of calls, and many people make appointments. But many drop out of the project for a variety of reasons, either before the first meeting or before the audition session (I don't always do both on the same day). I'd say I lose about 75% of the candidates before I even get a chance to test their potential. It makes for a lot of frustration and wasted time.

Of course, some people do have enough interest to stick to the project and go as far as the audition session, in hopes of being hired for a commercial video. Unfortunately, not all of the candidates have what it takes. Some are attractive but aren't quite ticklish enough. Others react really nicely but, as much as I feel bad for saying this, somehow don't seem quite as attractive as ideally they should be.

I think turning down a model who's not ticklish enough is disappointing but perfectly reasonable. After all, what's the point of a tickling video if the models are less ticklish than average or don't have especially interesting reactions? What truly saddens me is when a model is playful, enthusiastic and, most importantly, decently ticklish, but doesn't quite have the looks. This is especially frustrating because, if it were only up to me, some of these candidates would do just fine. They're not super lookers, but basically ok. Problem is, since tastes vary widely from person to person, it's hard for me to evaluate how attractive a model must be to interest potential customers.

I prefer to work with girl-next-door models. But people's definition of "girl-next-door" varies. I think most people agree that part of it is that a girl looks natural, without all the make-up and artificial glamour and fake pseudo-sexiness many models in the adult industry tend to have. The girl next door looks more real. However, some people seem to think it also means the girl should be more attractive than average, sometimes significantly so. In other words, a natural beauty. Nothing wrong with that definition, but it's not mine.

To me, "girl-next-door" looks simply means that a girl looks like the average person you can meet in everyday life. She can be more attractive than average, even beautiful, but not necessarily so. My personal view is that, as long as a girl has at least average looks and isn't plain unattractive, she can be an excellent model if she's interested in the project and is sufficiently ticklish.

I think that Marie and Isabelle, the models in my first video (Last Laugh Alpha), are both above-average in the looks department, while still fitting my definition of girl-next-door. They might not be to everyone's taste, but I assume most people find them cute enough. I'd be thrilled if I could always use models like them. But in practice it's very hard for me to find a good combination of looks and ticklishness (not to mention enthusiasm). If I'm to produce videos on a more or less regular basis, I may very well have to hire some models that don't look quite as good as Marie and Isabelle.

Now, I don't want to sacrifice the ticklishness factor. The models won't always be insanely ticklish, but definitely enough for a decent tickling video. That means I'll have to be a bit more flexible about looks. But I'm afraid this might disappoint some potential customers, enough to hurt sales. I mean, I can't expect my videos to please everybody, but they have to sell enough to justify their existence.

So, just how important is the attractiveness of the models when it comes to choosing what tickling video to buy? Do they have to be above-average, or will average-looking girls do as well? This is assuming the models are fun, playful and ticklish, of course.

There's one case I find especially touchy: when one member of a duo of friends looks ok and the other doesn't look quite as nice. I don't mean unattractive. I just mean rather plain, not really the type of girl you see in most such videos. Using only one of the girls isn't an option for me. It would likely hurt the feelings of the girl I turn down, and chances are the other girl would drop out because it simply wouldn't be the same experience for her, and she might even be upset at me (I couldn't blame her, really). It would certainly make me feel guilty. So I prefer not to split up teams. But how would hiring such a duo affect the popularity of a video? Would it really matter that much? Could the less attractive model still be interesting to many people? Would it hurt the video's sales in a significant way?

One option would be to have the less attractive model act as the other's tickler. While I agree it's nice to have a good-looking tickler, I assume the appearance of a ticklee tends to be a little more important. But what if the tickler happens to be as ticklish as the ticklee, or even more so? Wouldn't it be a waste? Wouldn't it be better to have the models take turns, to take advantage of the potential of each of them, even if one isn't as pretty as the other one? What do you think?

I'm very interested in feedback about this because it might influence my recruitment strategy. Personally, I'd much rather offer new videos on a regular basis, even if some of the models are average-looking, than only offering one every 3 months or so because I have trouble finding models that are ticklish and have looks that I'm sure will please most people. As long as the models are fun to watch, of course.

You know, maybe my perception of the situation is influenced by the models seen in most videos, and in reality people a more interested in regular girls that I think, as long as they react nicely to tickling. Note that I'm not especially interested in most models seen in videos of this nature, and I actually prefer many of the average girls I meet. But I know my tastes aren't shared by everyone. Which is fine, but it does make my job more challenging.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for taking the time to read this message. Sorry again for being so long-winded.
 
Good question Francois. In my opinion it's the playfullness of the tickler and reaction of the ticklee that makes the big difference.

I'd rather see a tickler who taunts their victim and appears to enjoy the tickling rather than someone who just stands there and goes through the motions with a straight face.

The reaction of the ticklee is even more important. Case in point; how many times have you seen posts deriding one of the video companies for using models who were beatiful, but appeared to be faking their laughter?

One of my all time favorite ticklees is a model named Kiri Kelly. She starred in a video called "Bound Tickled Tied" with another model who goes by the name of Dusty. Neither girl was what I would call a knockout, but the interaction between them, and the reactions to the tickling made this a great vid. There's a scene where Kiri is tied to the couch wearing only panties with her arms abover her head, and
Dusty is zeroing in on her rib cage and you can just see the apprehension in her eyes. When the tickling begins the giggling and struggling along with her facial expressions are what every tickler dreams of experiencing from a ticklee. There is nudity and genital tickling in this vid as well, but I would have been just as pleased without it.

I own videos with beautiful models who just don't appear to be very ticklish. I don't watch them more than once or twice, and I never buy another vid from the same company again.
 
Attractiveness of the ticklee and tickler are of #1 importance to me. I'm sorry. If the girls are not attractive (or what i feel is attractive) then there's no sale, period.
 
dodger said:
Attractiveness of the ticklee and tickler are of #1 importance to me. I'm sorry. If the girls are not attractive (or what i feel is attractive) then there's no sale, period.

Ticklishness is most important I'd say. I don't mean to sound rude, but I wouldn't want to sit and watch a person I found unatractive tickled either, no way. But video producers should never ever go for looks over ticklishness. If you had a very very hot ticklee and an average looking ticklee but the average looking person was far more ticklish, I think going for the average looking one is the way to go. Hope that helped.😀

(thats not to say if you had a reaaaal ugly ticklee who was super ticklish I'd buy it, I wouldn't...I sound so shallow...I think I'm going to hell...I hope its tickle hell...now I'm rambling.)😛
 
Francois A, I agree with TickleMantis and Tkltime on this question. The reaction of the ticklee and the attitude of the tickler are the most important. Looks are important, but not so much that they have to come at the expense of ticklishness and genuine enjoyment. I'm not sure if dodger likes videos with attractive women who aren't that ticklish or don't "get into it," but I sure don't. Pretending to laugh and actually doing so are distinctly different, and in many videos this fact is painfully obvious. And no, I don't think your post was long-winded, you explained yourself very well. Thanks for your work, and I hope you make more videos! 🙂
 
Given the situation of having hired the pair, the more attractive woman should be the ticklee. It is her body that will be shown struggling, and her face laughing. Often only the hands of the tickler are shown.
 
I can attest,....

I promise you, there are plenty of beautiful knock-out's out there that are very, very ticklish. You just have to find them.

Be patient, my friend.

BTW, do you still have copies availible of the first tape you made? I need your address so I can sent you $$ for it. I want one.
 
So far I agree with what already been said..The reactions are the most importatnt things to me, plus the restraints. I prefer imobility.
Watching 45 minutes of kicking is a bore..
 
I'd rather see a tickler who taunts their victim and appears to enjoy the tickling rather than someone who just stands there and goes through the motions with a straight face.

conversely, I find a tickler who can't keep their mouth shut an incredible annoyance. Most of the verbal taunting I have seen in videos is corny, abrasive, and just plain god-awful. just goes to show you can't please everyone.

on topic, I have a rather liberal definition of what's "attractive", but my general guideline is thus; for a tickling video, she must be ticklish, and photogenically so. That is of prime importance. As long as she's not so oogly that you feel you must claw your eyes out and scrub the sockets afterwards, she's attractive enough. some folks prefer models, some don't.

and Francois, I understand your difficulty in getting models; women are, as a rule, very camera-shy, regardless of how attractive they are. I know plenty of women who wouldn't mind helping me with my video game project but the second you tell them you want to take their picture, they run screaming. Doesn't matter if it's their face, their feet, tickling, whatever; the first words out of every woman's mouth in response to "can I photograph you for my game?" is "I'm no model, find someone better-looking".
 
The more ticklish the better

The worst thing a video producer can do is make a video with a model that is not ticklish. Just as long as the model is not ugly get the most ticklish model you can find and give her the tickling of her life. You will sell lots of videos if you do this.

Another way you might get your videos to sell more without attractive models is if you can find a very ticklish girl who hates to be tickled but she needs the money so badly that she does the video anyway. Tickle her long and hard and you will have a best seller on your hands.
 
Yes.......

Yes looks DO make a difference. Yes ticklishness DOES make a difference. 'Nuff Said 😎

TA
 
There is a fine line to deal with.People have different ideas on beauty,and levels of ticklishness(?) as well.I'd concentrate on the ticklish ones more,as beauty is in the eye of the beholder.While unattractive models are not going to get alot of vids sold,really attractive fakers won't do much better once the word gets out.Just read the posts about different vids to prove that.
 
There are so many things that add to a video, the character of the model - does she even have character... Whether or not the tickler blabs and blabs annoyingly, or is silent, maybe with giggles herself. The lighting and video and sound quality. The sets, the location. The pose or position of the tickler and ticklee. On and on. The little subtle things can make what would be an okay video fantastic, just like any hollywood movie.

On to the look of the model, yes, everyone wants to see someone beautiful tickle or be tickled. We like to look at pretty people, lets face it. But everyone judges beauty differently.

You'd basically have to show us what they look like, before anyone can really say if they believe they are beautiful or not. I've heard people describe models as "okay," when they were drop dead gorgeous, and others describe them as stunning, when they were pretty bland.
 
Hmmmm, interesting question Francois. Both girls in LLA were good looking, especially the second ticklee. (That was Isabelle wasn't it?) Marie did have her odd moments when she could look very odd, one example being when Isabelle is tickling her ribs. Suddenly, Marie has the eys of The Terminator! :blaugh: On another occasion Marie was tickling Isabelle's feet with a hairbrush and suddenly she's doing it again! Scary stuff!😱 I have to admit that I watch Isabelle being tickled much more than I do Marie though. Isabelle is both more ticklish and the better looking of the two. (IMO anyhow, others may disagree.) On the other hand, you could take two of MTP's videos like Phoenix's First Time and Farra's First Time. Both girls are very ticklish, but Pheonix is the better looking. (Not suprising since she's since appeared in Hustler!) Both are very ticklish, but Farra is SO ticklish that it doesn't take much of a tickling to get her screaming. That being the case, I now watch Farra's video more than I do Phoenix's. Of course, even though she's eclipsed by Phoenix in looks, Farra is still a very attractive looking woman, so you might not consider this example relavent. It might be more so if you looked at Laura's Feet by MTP. Laura is quite plain to look at, but one hell of a screamer! (Her boyfriend and tickler is damn good at his work too!) Even though Laura has quite plain looks, I still watch that video more often than I do Phoenix's, because Phoenix barely gets above a giggle more than twice in the whole hour.

When it comes to tickling someone in real life then looks would be far less important than in a video. Watching a video, looks would be more important for me, but a girl would have to be quite ugly before I would'nt watch it.

In short, yes looks are important for a video, but not every ticklish girl is going to look like Phoenix from MTP. Ticklish reaction is much more important as most people have said.

I hope no-one takes offence at my POV. Looks aren't character judgements, just eye-candy when it comes to videos. Good luck with Last Laugh Beta Francois, and even better luck with Last Laugh's gamma, delta, epsilon, zeta , eta, theta, iota, kappa, lamba, mu, nu, xi, omicron, pi, rho, sigma, tau, epsilon,phi chi psi and omega! May they all be as good as the first.

(And Francois thought HE was long-winded!🙄 )
 
Jim forgot alpha!

Yeah, Marie's eyes were really bugging out! 😛
 
Re: Jim forgot alpha!

amk714 said:
Yeah, Marie's eyes were really bugging out! 😛

I didn't forget it. He's already filmed it and I own it. Thus making it pretty pointless for me to wish him good luck filming it, because he's already done it!

Duuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....................:jester: :bouncybou
 
Re: Re: Jim forgot alpha!

You're right, Jim, my bad! 🙂 BTW, have you met Mercy? 😀
 
Mercy - I'm with you

I too woul dlove to be in a tickling video and am in the uk, but trouble is people dont wanna watcha video of a big girl being tickled. Alot of people wont even contemplate it in real life. Shame as I have been approached by a production company to ask if I'd do a BBW porn vid - short answer - NO, I asked them if they woud be interested in me for BBW tickling video and they said No there was already enough BBW tickling stuff out there and most pewople make their own home movies of the stuff - well I for one am yet to see anywhere that has a truly ticklish BBW and I mean aover 18 stone anywhere. Point me in the right direction if I'm wrong. For me the laughter and the ticklishness is more important than size and looks and hey after all - a larger person has a bigger ticklish area to explore - lol
 
(mumbling, doing math) Just checking, ticklemad...I outweigh you 😀 ...and I've been told it's very impressive seeing so much girl thrash around so much with so little provocation. But I tend to like conventionally attractive models when looking at porn. Maybe I'm brainwashed, maybe I'm a traitor to my own - I've been accused of this and more...but oh well. That's the way it is, and I really don't care why I get turned on so long as I do. OTOH I find anyone, man or woman, to be sexier when they're ticklish, so I would most likely enjoy a BBW tickling video. OTOOH, I don't buy nearly as many vids or mags as guys do, so I'm not the videomakers' primary market.
 
No you're not a traitor

Just someone entitled to an opinion and to have preferences like everyone else. I'm 287lbs by the way,(20.5 stones) just used the 18 as an example of roughly the laregest lass I've seen being tickled in a vid and that was on ebony ticklers I think. Wonder where all these BBW videos are then🙄 . Hey ever get to tthe uk, It would be one helluva tickle fight between us - lol and the pleasure would be all mine😀
 
Hands? Down?

Good thing you ran out of points to be made EQ...you're fresh outta OHs'. Guess you could start a trend with OFs' (other foot) if needed.
Interesting question....but it's a business and they want ROI. personally I like the idea of nearly ANY ticklish restrained female, but I guess you have to go with what sells, and I' not a customer. Q
 
Just to get back on topic for a min. 😉

Personally I prefer to see "girl next door" types tickled rather than some anorexic silicone enhanced skelton with 30% of her body mass in her breasts.

As far as attractiveness goes, I think a lot depends on the body of the person involved. If they have a nice body, then the actual facial attractiveness can be less without making much difference. I realise that I'd rather see a pretty girl tickled (as probably most would), but lets face it, it's not their face you're tickling!

I wouldn't personally want to see larger women tickled, as that's not my preference, although I do think most college age girls who are not several stones overweight probably have a nice body.

So overall I'd much prefer to see a very (very very very 😀) ticklish "girl next door" type rather than a model who's only somewhat ticklish.

For example (don't know if this this allowed, but hey anyone can see it in the member pics anyway) I had a look through the member pics the other night, and I found a perfect example of (what I think is) a "girl next door" type who I'd be happy to see in a tickling video:

Enny.jpg


Apologies to "Enny" if I'm offending you by using your pic.

So in answer to your question, bring on the "girls next door" who are insanely ticklish, and evilly punish them with tickle torture. 😀

As another suggestion for your following vids, I realise you're going for "fully clothed" (which is fine), but I'd like to see some kind of sleveless top so the girls armpits are fully exposed.

LEB
 
OTOF

Wonder where all these BBW videos are then . 🙄
I wonder too. There's a site run by a BBW who sells tickling vids...I don't remember the details but I'm sure someone else does.

Hey ever get to tthe uk, It would be one helluva tickle fight between us - lol and the pleasure would be all mine 😀
Well, not all yours. :devil: But I'd let you have at least 50% of the pleasure. BTW, someone's already asked me - if we do get together, could we please make a video of it...he'd love to see it. LOL!

EQ
 
Used to buy from FM Concepts

I used to buy tickle videos (5-10 years ago) from FM concepts who IMO have awesome looking models who are not very ticklish.

Now I only buy videos where the model is clearly ticklish (or a great actress), and the bondage is believable (not possible to strangle or kick the tickler until released).
 
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