How important is the attractiveness of a tickling video model to you?

[Enny]

I sorry I can't help it...I like to hide in the corner from the posts. I'm very shy. It's actually once every 4 months..lol 😀

 

[BigJim]

I sorry I can't help it...I like to hide in the corner from the posts. I'm very shy. It's actually once every 4 months..lol 😀

But you're too easy to see in the corner now. You can see that blushing from a mile off!

 

[Azrael]

But you're too easy to see in the corner now. You can see that blushing from a mile off!

Oh so true... And as anyone who's seen any selection of Enny-pics knows, she redefines the 'GND' beauty level. It's more than just 'pretty,' it's warm, and genuinely magnetic, as opposed to the cold and distant sort we're used to from magazines and movies and all the rest of that royally overdone and wholly fake crap. The average GND beats a typical star, even supermodel, without her makeup, hands-down by almost anyone's opinion.

Sorry, Enny, had to throw my voice in with the majority. You're lovely, and when you're having a good time and someone catches you in the moment with a photo you're positively stunning. That smile could make the sun hide behind a cloud in shame. Even the cheesy one 😀

Getting back to the subject at hand for a moment, I'm all in favor of the GND-type in tickling videos. I'm all in favor of anyone who wants to do a video being in one. "Looks" are appealing but really don't matter in the long run, as anyone who's gotten a good gander at me will attest (no comment, please... please!). I would not be inclined to patronize a company which sold videos featuring models selected primarily for looks, irregardless of just how ticklish they are; I prefer a ticklish model who enjoys being tickled being shown a good time in her own video (I can't stand the Non-Consentual videos out there, fake or not, and you'll never catch me reading Asylum or Nylon Dungeon). Facial features, expressions, a little chub here and there... All can be cute, when viewed in a certain way, and very few people have attractive faces when said faces are scrunched up like prunes or swollen from laughing. In the end it's the tickling that does it for me... and perhaps, almost as much, the personality and reactions of the model. Does she fight? Swear? Talk back? Beg? Scream in another language (first language or otherwise)? That sort of thing can really make the video, like the TMF model whose name I can't remember; a rather bubbly young nudist who at the end of each video is said to have 'bounced up giggling and saying it's just what she needed,' or something like that. I could look up the name, but I'm tired, and therefore being lazy.

G'night.

 

[amk714]

Yeah, GND types are great. Besides, they seem to be way more ticklish than the "beautiful" types! Many female students at my university would certainly fall into the GND category; they won't make money because of their looks, but they are nice to look at. They do things like swear, too! Videos in which real women get tickled for real, like the ones from Realtickling, that's the way to go! 🙂

 

[ticklemad]

Big Jim - Gorgeous Green Hunk Guy

Mmmmm - just been reading your thread to me. Yeah I'd go for it, but there's only one problem (not the married part), from reading threads generally on this board, whilst a lot of people are supportive of people being different, looks, size etc do seem to play an important part for the majority of folks - and hey you've seen my pic and know my statistics, I'd sure as hell not fit into any of the categories people wanna see in a tickling vid. Perhaps those little chats with Mercy should continue - hope that works out for you both. Only thing I suggested to her was how about f/f tickling, and if you need a f ler I'd be glad to help there, and maybe careful camera work could only show hands😕 Hows the London get together plans going by the way you gorgeous green guy you. mmmm and just one other question.... when the green man flashes on the traffic lights it means you're safe to go - i=does the same rule apply here😀

 

[hiram]

Importance of Attractiveness In Videos

I may be one of the wrong people to respond in this thread, because I doubt I'd buy a tickling video even if I found all parties in it attractive. The reason is because about a decade ago we had 2 commercially produced such videos. One I purchased and was pure tickling. Another was an adult fetish video (that included some tickling) that a friend of the wife gave to her. Both had the opposite effect of what we desired i.e. freezer burns instead of a tropical heatwave...for both of us I would guess.

Still, attractiveness is a definite requirement. For all those that worry their own attractiveness is suspect, this is an axiom. For EVERYONE there is SOMEONE that finds THIS ONE to be Helen (of Trojan War fame), Mata Hari, Cleopatra and Rose (the Flower of Malaya) all rolled into one.

If there were some way to do a tickling video that tossed in an element of realism, well, in real life, the most fun ticklings have a context. Whether it's a true ambush, a gradual development or the culmination of a verbal teasing war...if you could do that AND capture, not the girl next door, but rather the girl upstairs type...I might even break my personal moratorium. Blee' you me, I don't have a clue how you go about that and still get the needed amount of tickling for it to sell. By the way, I've seen lots of tickle babes get just deserts since puberty first started to turn my life upside down. That took place, roughly, about the time of the Enlightenment. I don't think I ever saw a lass in the throes of tickle ecstasy that wasn't as beautiful as any lass in the neighborhood.

Finally, I think all tickle people should make their own, at least one. We did about ten years back. It was made by us and for us. If you don't think there was a tremendous amount of giggling self consciousness in that effort...

It was also a tickling video we COULD watch over and over and sort of relive the fun. The wife is and was one of those TRULY RARE lasses that thinks she might have a physical flaw or two, yet she still had a good deal of fun during and after. In viewings she would hunch down and cover her ribs with her elbows to protect herself after the fact. She would also comment just above a whisper about her own physical flaws...old habits are hard to change.

For me, well, I had that glorious opportuntity to tickle Helen (of Trojan War fame), Mata Hari, Cleopatra and Rose (the Flower of Malaya) all rolled into one. Every time I watched it, it would stiffen my resolve and make me wish we had more such tapes. See what an attractive model can do? She watched it with me around half a dozen times. I watched it 'til the tape wore out.

I think both attractiveness and realism would make the best tickling videos. Alas, that may be Utopian.

Hiram

 

[BigJim]

That sort of thing can really make the video, like the TMF model whose name I can't remember; a rather bubbly young nudist who at the end of each video is said to have 'bounced up giggling and saying it's just what she needed,' or something like that. I could look up the name, but I'm tired, and therefore being lazy.

G'night.

I think it was Shannon of MTP. I think she's done two videos with Jeff so far; a First Time One and a Mummy Tickling one.

 

[BigJim]

Re: Big Jim - Gorgeous Green Hunk Guy

Mmmmm - just been reading your thread to me. Yeah I'd go for it, but there's only one problem (not the married part), from reading threads generally on this board, whilst a lot of people are supportive of people being different, looks, size etc do seem to play an important part for the majority of folks - and hey you've seen my pic and know my statistics, I'd sure as hell not fit into any of the categories people wanna see in a tickling vid. Perhaps those little chats with Mercy should continue - hope that works out for you both. Only thing I suggested to her was how about f/f tickling, and if you need a f ler I'd be glad to help there, and maybe careful camera work could only show hands😕 Hows the London get together plans going by the way you gorgeous green guy you. mmmm and just one other question.... when the green man flashes on the traffic lights it means you're safe to go - i=does the same rule apply here😀

Whatever you do TM, don't tell anyone how much I paid you to make that post!

One thing I have to say right now, is that videos in the UK cannot be sold like they can in the US. Femfeet.co.uk do videos, but they sell them as clips over the internet, through a US based credit card payment company. Because of the bondage content, some crappy, archaic UK law deems them to be "indecent material", and anyone selling them can be arrested and charged with circulation of such. This means that any videos that are made in the UK, can't be sold, only given as gifts "between friends". That being the case TM, it would'nt matter if you had 3 heads and 19 feet ( what a thought!!!!!😱 ) because there is not expected to be a profit from it. The only people who would see it are those who only care that the girl is ticklish as hell and squeals like an air raid siren when she's tickled.

If you would like to be a female ler/lee in the video I'd be delighted to accomodate you. I'd also like to see you being a lee too though; but only if you liked the idea. Let me know what you think. You can e-mail me, or leave a post here. 🙂

 

[The Last Laugh]

I'd almost have to say, just do the video. BUT, use each girl in a different theme, plot, idea. Don't put them in stocks for EVERY video. I like the office style enviroment, but if that was used for EVERY video, I'd even get tired after a while. Read up on stories, check the web for pictures not related to tickling, but that would fit into a tickling picture. Check out magazines, and if you ever see a picture where you say, "Boy, that would be a great tickle position, or tickle situation," use it. Pay attention to outfits, and settings.

I'll try to vary the content of my videos to some extent. But it's not easy. We used the table and stocks exclusively for Last Laugh Alpha because it was supposed to be an audition session, and the table/stocks combo is very convenient for that, since it's a standard and it exposes most of the important ticklish body parts. It's quick and doesn't waste too much of the candidates' precious time. They're not being paid for audition sessions, after all.

I'm rather limited in what I can do for my videos. I live in a small apartment (bedroom, living room, tiny kitchen corner and bathroom), which doesn't provide much space to do a variety of things. I don't have many props, clothes or other accessories that could vary the look of a video. I mainly depend on the models for that.

As for changing the scenery, I don't have many contacts, I don't have access to other useful places, and I don't even have a car to carry my equipment to such places. And even the equipment I do have isn't perfect by any means. For instance, my table, while functional, tends to be a tad shaky (but not dangerous) when a model struggles a lot, and without using large, tight straps it's really hard to keep those knees and feet stable. Makes for some loosening of the bondage and it complicates foot tickling. Tighten up the straps and you might end up with an uncomfortable model. Finding a good compromise is tricky.

Still, I do have a fairly large list of ideas I can use for future videos. Just don't expect very elaborate settings and scenarios. I don't use plots. When not done perfectly (that is, in the vast majority of cases), it ends up looking a little (or very) cheesy, because the models aren't actresses, the videos are amateur in nature, and tickle torture simply isn't a situation that lends itself to a credible story, in my opinion. I prefer to keep it simple but natural and fun.

Use all the models you audition in different situations, and let the customers pick and choose what they like and don't. Because, there are a lot of other things people like, that you can use to your advantage. Bare feet, pantyhose, socks, outfits, tickling tools, bondage/tickling positions, are they in stocks, on a bed, tied to a chair, feet on a desk, a stool, on and on....

Sometimes I do have the models try new things. An audition session are not only a tool for testing a model's potential, but also an opportunity to experiment. However, as I've said before, it can be hard to justify having the models go through the process of a complex session of experimentation when they're really just there to try out for a video and aren't being paid. I need models who are especially open and interested in contributing to allow myself to try out many things. And it makes for very long audition sessions.

By the way, by "letting the customers choose what they like and don't like", do you mean somehow showing some bits of footage from the audition sessions? Because that's impossible, unfortunately. I wish I could do it, because it would be especially useful for determining how people would like a model physically. But it would be illegal, as well as wrong. Oh well.

 

[The Last Laugh]

If the tickler in the video appears to find their ticklee attractive, if the tickler and the ticklee have a good flow between the two of them....well, they both become better looking.

That's a very interesting point. However, assuming two female models, the first situation suggests that the girls have, well, lesbian tendencies. Otherwise they probably wouldn't care much about each other's appearance. Nothing wrong at all with lesbian models, mind you. In fact, it could add a new level of playful complicity and intimacy to my videos, without necessarily being erotic in nature. But I might have trouble finding models that fit the description. Or they could and I might never know. Of course, for all I know maybe I missed your point entirely, in which case I apologize.

On the other hand, if the models have a good relationship without it going beyond a close friendship, I totally agree that the interaction between them can greatly improve the quality of a video, compared to models who don't really give a damn about each other. That's why I prefer to hire duos (or trios, if it ever happens) of friends, whenever possible. They tend to be more comfortable and have more fun, and it shows. Sisters would be a lot of fun as well.

 

[The Last Laugh]

From what you've said in a couple of posts here, you appear to be a guy of the utmost integrity, with a wonderful attitude towards your models. I hope anyone who deals with a similar situation (myself included) has the morals you do. Well done mate.

Thank you very much, BigJim. That's very kind of you. I do take pride in the fact that I try my best to act as professionally ands respectfully with my models. They're not just models for a commercial product to me. I genuinely care about them, about their comfort, about their interests. If only everyone understood that, I would have a lot more candidates, and thus I'd have a much easier time producing decent videos. Sigh.

 

[amk714]

If Francois A keeps replying to every post, this thread might never die! Not that I want it to, of course. 🙂

 

[The Last Laugh]

A girl with such intense reactions that some may not think it is real would make a great video. Some will call it fake because they have never seen anything like it but for many of us, we will know it is real.

Well, the reactions are indeed intense, but they never quite reach the "totally losing it and going nuts" stage. They're constant, fairly loud, but it's not really the standard "howling with hysterical laughter" sort. But I'd be thrilled with reactions of this intensity and regularity, if only they varied from time to time.

Also, while her high-pitched laugh isn't unattractive, it's not always super melodious either. She tends to laugh/giggle while she's taking a breath, which produces an odd throat effect. When things get just a little more intense for her, she adds these "wild animal" screams/wails/whatever to the mix. Kinda cool, really, come to think of it. But again, very little variation. And I don't think any amount of tickling would get her to change her laughter. She's simply too regular and has too much stamina.

In a way, it's not so much the stamina and intensity of the laughter that makes it not entirely credible. It's the nature of the laughter. I just have a hard time believing it's real. It kinda sounds fake, no matter how long or short the tickling bout. I know it's not fake, but that's just because I tested her myself. Also, she doesn't seem to struggle at all, in spite of the torment she goes through. I don't even need to hold her feet still or tie her toes, because she simply pulls her ankles back the whole time and doesn't make an effort to protect her feet. It's very convenient, but it doesn't seem right. Not sure how well received it would be as a commercial video. Then again, maybe I'm totally wrong.

I would pay to see this girl tied and tickled in many different positions. She sounds so ticklish she just cannot help herself. If you turn this girl down you would be making a big mistake. There is no such thing as a perfect model and if you turn every other model that fails to live up to perfection you will soon be out of the buisness.

To tell the truth I would be quite happy to hire her. She obviously enjoyed the session a lot, would be thrilled to do it again (this time for a salary), and she's about the most easily tickled girl I've worked with during an audition session. She's also rather pretty.

There is another detail I haven't mentioned so far because it didn't seem relevant at the time, but now that we're discussing this model in more detail, it seems like the perfect opportunity to bring up an issue about which I wouldn't mind at all getting feedback.

I truly hope people won't interpret this the wrong way, because I mean no offense at all, but the detail in question is that she's African-American. She's actually from New Jersey, which would allow me to make an English video without a problem.

See, I'm wondering if doing a video with this girl now would be too soon in the history of my company. Thing is, A.N.A. is already doing a great job with ethnic tickling, and for that reason I'm afraid my own video would go relatively unnoticed, especially since my company is so young. If I had a few more titles under my belt, then I wouldn't mind at all the variety provided by an African-American model.

Then again, maybe I'm just being stupid and I'm approaching this case entirely the wrong way. Maybe I should get her while I can. I would hate to lose a good model because I've waited too long to hire her.

So anyway, I'm curious to know if many people would be interested in a video featuring this somewhat odd-reacting but fun and very ticklish young lady. The more I think about it, I don't see why I shouldn't hire her. She's definitely more interesting than many, if not most of the candidates I've met so far. Just a little unusual in her reactions, that's all.

 

[The Last Laugh]

If Francois A keeps replying to every post, this thread might never die. Not that I want it to, of course. 🙂

Hehehe! Sorry about that, I just enjoy replying when I think of something relevant to say. Note that in the case of this particular thread I haven't replied to each and every post. Sometimes I just don't know what more to contribute, which is not to say I don't appreciate the posts just as much.

If it turns out the thread does get too long, maybe we should start new threads when we start digressing, discussing entirely new issues. While people have remained pretty much on topic, I get the feeling we might eventually end up branching out, thus justifying new threads. Threads I can also flood with my own posts, nyahaha!!!

 

[BigJim]

Francois, I know you're one for posting polls about questions you want to ask potential customers, so why don't you post a poll on the afro-american question? That way if you get enough favourable responses, you could go ahead with no worries.

 

[ticklemad]

Big Jim - Gorgeous Green Hunk Guy

I would mail you, but I dont have an addy. Suggestion time - I have a slightly more revealing piccie than that you've already seen (no nudity so dont worry) that it may be an idea for you to peek at before we take this further. If you can mail me an addy I can forward it on to you, we can take things from there and sort out my invoice for that last post too - lol😉 😀

As for air raid siren, I'm more like the bomb going off or the lighthouse siren at flamborough head Or actually hubby says I'm like one of those silly giggle balls you get in Woolworths that sounds like they'll expire before they take a breath - lol. Been thinking of popping to London before xmas to see some rellies too, so if you're down that way too maybe we could meet for a drink.

 

[BigJim]

Re: Big Jim - Gorgeous Green Hunk Guy

I would mail you, but I dont have an addy. Suggestion time - I have a slightly more revealing piccie than that you've already seen (no nudity so dont worry) that it may be an idea for you to peek at before we take this further. If you can mail me an addy I can forward it on to you, we can take things from there and sort out my invoice for that last post too - lol😉 😀

As for air raid siren, I'm more like the bomb going off or the lighthouse siren at flamborough head Or actually hubby says I'm like one of those silly giggle balls you get in Woolworths that sounds like they'll expire before they take a breath - lol. Been thinking of popping to London before xmas to see some rellies too, so if you're down that way too maybe we could meet for a drink.

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Sure, you can drop me a line at either [email protected] or [email protected] . Look forward to hearing from you!

 

[Phineas]

Hey Francois, you say this model you've found is from New Jersey? I'm situated in New Jersey and I'm definitely interested in getting at least one African-American model for the computer game I'm writing. Feel free to have her get in contact with me through the link in my signature if she's interested. I'll find some way to return the favor in the future if it works out.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Hey Francois, you say this model you've found is from New Jersey? I'm situated in New Jersey and I'm definitely interested in getting at least one African-American model for the computer game I'm writing. Feel free to have her get in contact with me through the link in my signature if she's interested. I'll find some way to return the favor in the future if it works out.

Hi Phineas,

If I get back in touch with her to do a video I'll definitely mention you and your computer game to her. However, it appears she may be in Quebec City for some time. She's a student on campus here. So I dont know if she intends to go back to New Jersey anytime soon.

 

[mabus]

Fraancois, the more I think about this "debate", the more I walk around WalMart and other regular places, the more attractive girls I see who woudln't fit the supermodel look of atraction, but boy you wonder if they are tciklish. I don't know, I don't know how hard it is to find a girl who wants to be tickled, but I say use them all, if they actually volunteer to be tickled silly, and let the customers decide.

Good Luck, and when actually is your next video coming out? How often will you release videos? I think these questions many answer others - like, if you release videos frequently, and a lot of girls volunteer, you needn't turn anyone away.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Francois, the more I think about this "debate", the more I walk around WalMart and other regular places, the more attractive girls I see who woudln't fit the supermodel look of attraction, but boy you wonder if they are ticklish.

I totally agree with you. I too, when I walk around in public, see plenty of perfectly plain girls, or others that are somewhat prettier/cuter, that I would be more than happy to tickle out of their minds, including for videos. It can almost drive me insane when I'm really in the mood, because interesting girls are all over the place, in the thousands, and I know many of them are really ticklish, but there's very little I can do about it, and all that great potential goes to waste. It really puts a strain on the eyes and neck.

All of these girls can be very interesting, but they're not the types you usally see in movies, on TV or in videos that are basically aimed at an adult market. And that's a shame, because if anything I think they have even more potential than all those supposedly beautiful women that, to me, look like they're all from the same boring mold. No offense intended to those who enjoy that kind of look, which is very popular after all. It's just my personal opinion.

I can't help but wonder if guys like those types of women because they're the women you see in the media, and you see them in the media because that's what guys like because that's who they see in the media..... It's a vicious circle. If it weren't for the media's representation of what an attractive woman is like, I think guys would pay a lot more attention to the more moderately attractive girls and find out that they're pretty damn cute after all. Maybe guys don't like to admit they like more regular girls as much or even more than the glamorous celeb types, because they think they're expected to prefer the latter. But I personally don't hesitate one second to declare that I think girl next door types totally rock. And like I said, even rather plain girls can be a lot of fun to tickle and see tickled, if they're ticklish of course.

I don't know, I don't know how hard it is to find a girl who wants to be tickled, but I say use them all, if they actually volunteer to be tickled silly, and let the customers decide.

It's significantly harder than I'd like. For me, anyway. As for letting the customers decide, if it works it suits me just fine, and I guess I don't have much of a choice anyway. I can only have a very general idea how popular a girl will be until I release a video with her. Of course, if it turns out she isn't popular at all for whatever reason, selling only 5 copies of her video, and it ends up damaging the reputation of my company somehow, that's not exactly good for me. So as much as I'd like to think I can use just about any fun and ticklish model that's willing to go through it, I do have to be somewhat selective. Just how selective is the tricky part to determine, and getting a partial answer ss the main purpose of this thread.

Good Luck, and when actually is your next video coming out?

It's hard to say. I don't have any new material yet, but I do have a number of willing candidates, and I'm currently trying to decide who to hire first so I can produce my second video as soon as I can. I hope I can release it in less than a month. We'll see how it goes.

How often will you release videos? I think these questions many answer others - like, if you release videos frequently, and a lot of girls volunteer, you needn't turn anyone away.

Because I wasn't entirely prepared when I opened the store and didn't have a pool of new models to choose from for more videos (all of which is my own fault, I should have planned things better), I ended up releasing LLA over 2 months ago without any follow-up titles. Not the end of the world, but not the best for keeping the interest of potential customers.

If things go reasonably well with the candidates, I'll try to produce 2 or 3 videos in a short amount of time so I can have a couple in reserve, allowing me to release a video every month or so. At least that's what I'm hoping for. I'll try my best to find new models on a regular basis, or at least accumulate a couple of videos from time to time. Hiring models that qualify is pretty tricky, and I don't know how regular I'll manage to be with new videos.

Of course, if I manage to release new videos more regularly, the profits will pay for new videos, and I can hire models more frequently. I don't like to turn down models with good potential, so this would suit me just fine.

However, the question is whether the candidates I have on my list really do have what it takes to make good videos. Ticklishness is the most important factor, and while I do have a few candidates that would work nicely enough (without being the tickling revelations of the last 20 years), it's not like I have so many that I don't know what to do with them. The very good ones are rather scarce. Not that they're not out there, but those who answer my ads and remain interested enough to go as far as a commercial session aren't very numerous at all.

The really ticklish models are usually too scared to do it. Those that are ticklish enough to be decent models and are curious about the project tend to be intimidated by the adult nature of the market. I mean, sure, my videos don't contain any nudity and are pretty much just fun tickling (while still a challenge for the models). Nothing shocking at all in my videos. But that doesn't change the fact that the videos are meant for an adult market, and this doesn't work too well with most people. They might find the project original and intriguing, but they would rather not participate themselves. Disappointing, but understandable. Bondage is also a tad kinky or scary for some models, but most are ok with it. The fetish aspect of the videos is the main problem.