Ladies, curves are where it's at

[footetickle]

Who doesn't like a woman with curves! All hail woman with curves.

 

[slacker2114]

Bah....all hail women, period!

 

[Tiger.Lily]

I hear what you're saying, but I think you're taking this the wrong way. The point of starting the thread was to try and assert that what is constantly shown as the "ideal" for women is not at all in line what the reality of what most men think is beautiful. The point of thread WAS NOT to simply say "In order to be beautiful and sexy, women must have curves." That wasn't the point at all. ...actually, that's not even in the same universe as the point.
We currently live in a society that likes to label women with curves as fat and unattractive. This thread was simply a rebuttal to that.
Also, as I stated, Health and self confidence is beautiful and attractive....curves or no.

So...the thread was not a dig at slimmer girls.

My post wasn't aimed just at your post. There were a few other choice comments that it was more specifically aimed at. I dig what you were trying to say, and I understand it completely. I know you weren't trying to crap on thin girls.

 

[Mister Scruff]

trying to crap on thin girls.

No, it's only me that does this. I'm the Scat-man, bee ba ba badda bop, etc etc.

At the very real risk of derailing the thread slightly I tend to notice this kind of thing happening as well, and it seems to be more prevalent in adult communities; threads appear which make a noble attempt to affirm those women whose bodies don't conform to the Cosmo standard and some folk use it as a platform to make snidey remarks about women who do. I'm honestly curious as to why that should be the case; anyone care to opine?

I'm also slightly baffled as to why it always seems to be women who are the subject of these threads; does that mean men who don't resemble Michaelangelo's David should be looked down upon? I know I don't. I look like some form of shaven bear, which I think is cool, but everywhere I look there's blokes with ripped abs and wiry arms which, I'm led to believe, is what women want and is the standard to which I should conform. How come nobody sticks up for me, and my right not to feel bad about myself because I'm no Adonis? 🙁

 

[Capnmad]

At the very real risk of derailing the thread slightly I tend to notice this kind of thing happening as well, and it seems to be more prevalent in adult communities; threads appear which make a noble attempt to affirm those women whose bodies don't conform to the Cosmo standard and some folk use it as a platform to make snidey remarks about women who do. I'm honestly curious as to why that should be the case; anyone care to opine?

Simple. Add even a little heat to any discussion involving differences, and divisions form, factions become entrenched, and each group increasingly views "the other" a little bit more as the enemy (even when they realize in a moment of calmer reflection that they didn't mean to). Just the nature of polarization. Happens in discussions on race, politics, religion, sports, and apparently, matters of aesthetic preference.

 

[BellaRisa]

No, it's only me that does this. I'm the Scat-man, bee ba ba badda bop, etc etc.

At the very real risk of derailing the thread slightly I tend to notice this kind of thing happening as well, and it seems to be more prevalent in adult communities; threads appear which make a noble attempt to affirm those women whose bodies don't conform to the Cosmo standard and some folk use it as a platform to make snidey remarks about women who do. I'm honestly curious as to why that should be the case; anyone care to opine?

I'm also slightly baffled as to why it always seems to be women who are the subject of these threads; does that mean men who don't resemble Michaelangelo's David should be looked down upon? I know I don't. I look like some form of shaven bear, which I think is cool, but everywhere I look there's blokes with ripped abs and wiry arms which, I'm led to believe, is what women want and is the standard to which I should conform. How come nobody sticks up for me, and my right not to feel bad about myself because I'm no Adonis? 🙁

I'm glad you brought this up. I've been silent in this thread, even though I'm usually one of the first to praise curvy women, because I promised myself I'd get over it this year. What is 'it'? It's the whole curvy vs slim battle that goes on with women. We destroy each other over it. I'm really, really tired of it and I don't want to be a part of it anymore. I was raised by extremely curvy women, and taught from very early on that it was perfectly acceptable to subtly and not so subtly pick on tall thin model types. The logic seemed to be that because they get more attention and more acceptance, and especially because all the clothing in the stores seemed only for them, it was ok to put them down and make skinny jokes. It evened the playing field or something. And I freely admit that in a world that seems to prefer the tall and pale and thin, I can feel less than attractive. Not very often, I love my body, but I do have my days. I'm reading Euphoricy's posts and just shaking my head, because I was given the mixed messages that while my figure was supposedly superior, I was really supposed to look just like her to be accepted. (Or Denise f*cking Huxtable... ). It's taken me a long time to get my mom's skinny jokes AND her insinuations that I was too short and fat out of my head. And I swear sometimes the wench is lurking in the dressing room at Target...

At 36 I'm just too tired of it all, and frankly too comfortable in my own skin. Slim is sexy. It looks great in a bikini. Hour-and-a-half hourglass like me is sexy. I look amazing in a tight t-shirt and Apple Bottom Jeans and bare feet. And you don't have to have everyone's ideal shape to be gorgeous in your own right. You CAN'T be hot to everyone, people are too damn different. I've discovered that the trick is to hang around the people who think you're hot, and make sure they know you think they're hot so they feel good, and 'get on with it'

 

[Mister Scruff]

At 36 I'm just too tired of it all, and frankly too comfortable in my own skin. Slim is sexy. It looks great in a bikini. Hour-and-a-half hourglass like me is sexy. I look amazing in a tight t-shirt and Apple Bottom Jeans and bare feet. And you don't have to have everyone's ideal shape to be gorgeous in your own right. You CAN'T be hot to everyone, people are too damn different. I've discovered that the trick is to hang around the people who think you're hot, and make sure they know you think they're hot so they feel good, and 'get on with it'

This. <3

 

[Sandrock74]

What about Cy/Mig?!?! The Bromance!!!

A bromance doesn't count as female companionship! Besides, have YOU ever seen Cy/MiG without the paperbag over his head?

 

[chicago]

Natural bodies are awesome. When a model has to snort coke 5 times a day and exercise for hours to keep her job, that's fucked up. And girls that make themselves puke to have the body of the coked out model, is even more fucked up. Being obese and masking it as curvy or "thick" when you've got high blood pressure and are on the brink of being diabetic... also fucked up.

It goes both ways.

 

[CrystalLight]

I'm reading Euphoricy's posts and just shaking my head, because I was given the mixed messages that while my figure was supposedly superior, I was really supposed to look just like her to be accepted. (Or Denise f*cking Huxtable... ).

Agreed. I'm one who struggles with my own body and have even before I popped a baby out. I'm frustrated by my pouch and my belly looks like an eagle was trying to molest me with it's talons. There are days where I think I look decent and days I think I look like a fucking mess. It all fluxuates.

There's really nothing I can do to change that mentality but go about life and stay healthy to the best of my ability. I know that there are going to be people who think I'm horrific and others that might not.

The fact that we're all differently shaped make's us unique. There's no such thing as perfection, because there's no one on earth to make that standard.

At 36 I'm just too tired of it all, and frankly too comfortable in my own skin. Slim is sexy. It looks great in a bikini. Hour-and-a-half hourglass like me is sexy. I look amazing in a tight t-shirt and Apple Bottom Jeans and bare feet. And you don't have to have everyone's ideal shape to be gorgeous in your own right. You CAN'T be hot to everyone, people are too damn different. I've discovered that the trick is to hang around the people who think you're hot, and make sure they know you think they're hot so they feel good, and 'get on with it'

Hai.

You're kinda my hero and I wanna definitely be you when I grow up. Srsly.

 

[BellaRisa]

Hai.

You're kinda my hero and I wanna definitely be you when I grow up. Srsly.

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[tenaciousT]

Shaddup fatties, bring on the skinny chicks!

 

[badreligion]

Shaddup fatties, bring on the skinny chicks!

This won't end well

 

[Lord Doctor]

Dont let me ruin it for you

Of course many if not most of us men prefer curvy women:
It's a sign of sexual maturity (along side fulsome nacelles... urm, breasts)
Wider hips give a greater chance of successful birth

So that's all the biological crap out of the way.

The main reason?

Well proportionned curves are so damned hot!


Now if only women preferred blokes who didn't have muscles like He-man
and look more like Egg-Man (Robotnick). Though I'd rather look like Sonic.

What the hell am I talking about there?

 

[MrMacphisto]

Curves make a woman feminine.

But obesity is a serious health risk.

So yeah, go curves, but with moderation.

Agreed...

 

[ticklebunny 2]

I have to say I am glad that this thread was started and I thank you Alchemy for starting this awesome thread. It is about time that women with curves and women that are plus size and not the societal slim ideal-be praised and validated as being beautiful and special! I know what you are saying-that really does upset me too-I hate the ideal and unrealistic expectations that Hollywood puts on young women especially teens and even through adulthood. It is very tragic and very sad. Sadly so many lost unconfident young girls resulting to anorexia or develop eating disorders because the constant message that they receive from the media-bombarding them is -slim is sexy and if you are not slim and if you have curves-then you are not healthy but most importantly you are not "sexy" and you will not be desirable to men.

That is crap in my book and I am fed up with the media and society feeding this crap to young women that are teens and even still trying to feed us this crap today. Yet I also have to agree a bit along with Euphoricy-curves do help and curves are sexy-slim can be sexy and hot-yet I also do believe not really exterior beauty-inner beauty and a woman's characteristic traits and qualities that makes a woman truly beautiful.

Yet I also have to say I also think curves are good and not a bad thing-I am relieved and glad to hear-that majority of men think that curves are sexy and hot-what a relief! Too sadly it does seem that it is emphasized triple times over-a woman has to have the ideal smoking hot body-slim with minimum curves and barely no body fat... that is sad. I also believe that depending on a woman's inner beauty-characteristic traits and qualities-one's personality-this can make a woman with curves-even a plus size woman -BBW that much more beautiful and attractive and sexier-than a woman that is super slim- not healthy and not natural slim-slim woman that could be caught up in herself-that could be about obsessing on her appearance all the time and that being all that matters to her. That is not sexy.

Now whether a woman be with curves BBW or super slim-as long as the woman has a great personality, kind, and giving-caring to others and does not get hung up on her appearance and other superficial things in life-really know what matters and has her priorities right-she knows how to be a friend and listen and be there for others-that woman is going to be beautiful. At least in my opinion she will be whereas a woman obsessing on her appearance and only on what she wants and does not want to help others or be there for others-that woman will be ugly.

It matters what is inside and less on what is on the outside. Guess it is true what they say beauty really always will be in the eye of the beholder.

 

[rhiannon]

You guys made my day....I feel very happy and content that I just had pizza! 😀

 

[meangry]

No, it's only me that does this. I'm the Scat-man, bee ba ba badda bop, etc etc.

At the very real risk of derailing the thread slightly I tend to notice this kind of thing happening as well, and it seems to be more prevalent in adult communities; threads appear which make a noble attempt to affirm those women whose bodies don't conform to the Cosmo standard and some folk use it as a platform to make snidey remarks about women who do. I'm honestly curious as to why that should be the case; anyone care to opine?

I'm also slightly baffled as to why it always seems to be women who are the subject of these threads; does that mean men who don't resemble Michaelangelo's David should be looked down upon? I know I don't. I look like some form of shaven bear, which I think is cool, but everywhere I look there's blokes with ripped abs and wiry arms which, I'm led to believe, is what women want and is the standard to which I should conform. How come nobody sticks up for me, and my right not to feel bad about myself because I'm no Adonis? 🙁

I think there is something here that hasn't been hit upon, which is all too often a source of many a broom sweep under a rug. I constantly see this topic of conversation coming up in a variety of different ways, and the same sort of dialogue is exchanged. This one is mostly positive, so there is very little red flame meat to be chewed on.

But there's a little bone I have to pick. Actually, a very big one. Because common sense dictates it. I hear and read and see this fawning over the female form and this stern warning of acceptance of any woman as being beautiful, attractive, and the like without any sort of realistic gravitas to the proceedings.

I can go talk to any number of plus sized women who will say this line of solipsistic, self indulgent rhetoric that ALL SOCIETY must cow to them, but the second you are a plus sized dude, that some person shows themselves as the ultimate hypocrite by lining up all these standards and manners for what a man has to look like to be attractive.

I'm no Adonis. When I was lifting weights and playing football, basketball, and track in high school, I didn't have cut abs. But I was sturdy, about 250 when I was a Junior and made the All Conference team as a guard. I could bench 300 and squat 800. My blood is a mixture of polish and irish, so I ain't built to be rail thin. Needless to say, I was pretty jacked up. But I haven't hit the weights like I've needed to for years. Went through a rough patch where I put on pounds. I'm not proud of it.

So, whilst I am supposed to sit here and accept women as being these beautiful creatures, regardless of them being ripe to be picked clean by vultures or gelatinous blobs, I am supposed to hear those same people have these very specified images of what a dude is supposed to look like? Is it not laughable to have the curvy woman sit there boyfriendless because they can't find their little 150 pound Ambercrombie model with the windswept hair?

If people want to opine this in any tangible way without it coming off as superficial or self serving, they need to examine the realities of body type and social standard for attraction for all genders. Not just females.

 

[badreligion]

I think there is something here that hasn't been hit upon, which is all too often a source of many a broom sweep under a rug. I constantly see this topic of conversation coming up in a variety of different ways, and the same sort of dialogue is exchanged. This one is mostly positive, so there is very little red flame meat to be chewed on.

But there's a little bone I have to pick. Actually, a very big one. Because common sense dictates it. I hear and read and see this fawning over the female form and this stern warning of acceptance of any woman as being beautiful, attractive, and the like without any sort of realistic gravitas to the proceedings.

I can go talk to any number of plus sized women who will say this line of solipsistic, self indulgent rhetoric that ALL SOCIETY must cow to them, but the second you are a plus sized dude, that some person shows themselves as the ultimate hypocrite by lining up all these standards and manners for what a man has to look like to be attractive.

I'm no Adonis. When I was lifting weights and playing football, basketball, and track in high school, I didn't have cut abs. But I was sturdy, about 250 when I was a Junior and made the All Conference team as a guard. I could bench 300 and squat 800. My blood is a mixture of polish and irish, so I ain't built to be rail thin. Needless to say, I was pretty jacked up. But I haven't hit the weights like I've needed to for years. Went through a rough patch where I put on pounds. I'm not proud of it.

So, whilst I am supposed to sit here and accept women as being these beautiful creatures, regardless of them being ripe to be picked clean by vultures or gelatinous blobs, I am supposed to hear those same people have these very specified images of what a dude is supposed to look like? Is it not laughable to have the curvy woman sit there boyfriendless because they can't find their little 150 pound Ambercrombie model with the windswept hair?

If people want to opine this in any tangible way without it coming off as superficial or self serving, they need to examine the realities of body type and social standard for attraction for all genders. Not just females.

you're 800lb squat was it Raw or with a suit and was it ATG ?

 

[rhiannon]

@meangry: Men don't have to be considered beautiful! It's scientifically proven that women will care more for their bank account than for their butt! 🙂 Men are the ones going upon looks! 🙂

 

[kis123]

I backtracked through this thread and see I might have upset someone so let me better explain myself in hopes I can clean up what I might've messed up.

I made a comment about the women I saw in a commercial looking like they had hips like boys. It's one thing to be born with a particular body shape; you can't control genetics (and who says you should want to anyway). It's another thing to aspire to a certain body shape, then make an infomercial about it. I don't like how certain things are shoved down my throat saying that if I don't look like this, then I'm not healthy or attractive. I've had that garbage shoved at me my entire life; I lived in the era when Twiggy was the standard of beauty and if you were 10 lbs bigger than your peers, you were the subject of ridicule. I can make a novel on the fat jokes alone so I had to learn how to love myself regardless, not just as a condition of losing weight.

If I offended anyone, it wasn't intentional and I apologize; have the body you have, take as good care of it as you can, and go on and rock it. I rock this big body just as well as anyone I see in tv or magazines and I have no problems getting a man in my life. It'll amaze you how many men love women my size; I had a former SO get offended because I told him I was losing weight. I had to inform him that he's not the one carrying this around and I get the final say of what happens to my body. But he was visibly upset because he likes his women big.

To the obesity is a health risk subscribers, I'll say this: sure there are some health risks associated with obesity and we should all strive to be as healthy as possible. However, there are plenty of skinny people in clinics, hospitals, and cemetaries all over the world so weight is only one of many parts in physical health. A fat person is not necessarily unhealthy nor a thin person automatically healthy.

And to the poster who questioned thin and curvy, I have twe names for you; Halle Berry and Jenifer Love Hewitt! They are the most petite curvy women I've ever laid eyes on so nothing wrong with that!

 

[Excess]

Ok, I can't take it anymore. I just have to say it. Here it is folks...

BETTY PAGE AND MARILYN MONROE ARE OVERRATED!!!

GOD that felt good! I've wanted to say that for so long and have never found the time to. Now I am. They had decent bodies, but they're more famous for their roles at the time. Their looks are really not THAT great. I mean they aren't that pretty when you look at them without bias. Sorry, I may be the only person in the world that thinks that, but I'm sticking by it.

As for the main topic...well, I'm not defending women that are overly skinny, put constantly putting them down for being thin is no better than putting someone down for being thick. Only difference is that the media portrays thinner women in a better light. Well, except when someone's whole thing is being a 'real' woman. And that's why people put them down. Well that, and jealous bigger women.

And curves aren't limited to one specific body type. People's bodies are more unique than that. It just depends on the individual and what works for them. But either way being too fat or too skinny are both bad. Don't just sit back and call anyone that's the opposite too skinny/too fat because you can't stop throwing up/put down the potato chips.

 

[rhiannon]

As for the main topic...well, I'm not defending women that are overly skinny, put constantly putting them down for being thin is no better than putting someone down for being thick. Only difference is that the media portrays thinner women in a better light.

That's the thing though...in reality, thin women do not get put down! Because the media tells everybody that's what you have to look like! It starts with kids at school already! I have never heard anybody being insulted for being too thin, only the bigger kids have to deal with it!

Thin women usually don't need reassurance, they will be complimented. Bigger women most of the time don't have that priviledge, and if they do, often they have been through so much already that they believe they are being bullshitted.

 

[Excess]

That's the thing though...in reality, thin women do not get put down! Because the media tells everybody that's what you have to look like! It starts with kids at school already! I have never heard anybody being insulted for being too thin, only the bigger kids have to deal with it!

Thin women usually don't need reassurance, they will be complimented. Bigger women most of the time don't have that priviledge, and if they do, often they have been through so much already that they believe they are being bullshitted.

*looks at thread* Really now?

 

[Sanhael]

You know, I don't know what all the ballyhoo and hubbub is about (yes, they're both words). I'm also not sure why the brainless talking heads in the media are making it out to be some big reveal or epiphany.

Men prefer curves.

Granted, not ALL men do, but I feel pretty safe is saying that MOST men do. I know I do.

Yet, this bit of information, that everyone has apparently known for a while now is being treated like somebody found the lost ark. Fucking Duh! Ladies, THIS is why men stand around baffled while you pace back and forth complaining about gaining 5 pounds...THIS is why guys resort to the old "deer-in-the-headlights" look when a woman with a sexy curvy body complains that she's too fat...THIS is why you wonder why guys delight in ticking your beautiful soft tummies whilst all you can think of is that they're "pinching your fat".

Want more evidence, fine. Betty Page and Marilyn Monroe are the two biggest sex symbols of the 20th century. ...and yes, they BOTH have natural, healthy, curvy bodies.

Case in point:

<img src="http://www.fresh99.com/images/bettie/bettie_16.jpg">

<img src="http://marilynmonroe.canalblog.com/mmosecoul104.jpg">

Anyway, I don't understand any of it. Since the 70's the film and fashion industry has been promoting this anorexic skinny version of a woman as the "ideal" to which all women need to aspire (which I think, simply as a concept, is bullshit anyway. Leave people alone!). It's all been a fabrication. It's not reality. It's not even close to reality.

Health and confidence are sexy...regardless of your natural body shape. (Be proud of it, it's YOURS!) Self-inflicted poor health and constant self-deprecation are not.

I guess what I'm trying to say ladies is:

Curves DO NOT make you unattractive

Curves DO NOT make you undesirable

Curves DO NOT make you inferior to skinny women

Curves ARE sexy

Curves DO make you attractive

Curves DO make you desirable.


So....enough already.

...this rant is done.