Ladies, curves are where it's at

[kis123]

Thin women usually don't need reassurance, they will be complimented. Bigger women most of the time don't have that priviledge, and if they do, often they have been through so much already that they believe they are being bullshitted.

There was a time when it was difficult to accept compliments without feeling there was a hidden agenda. I've always had boyfriends and such, but people don't know how to fight fairly. If I got into an argument with a SO, the first word coming out of his mouth were the fat jokes. But wait a minute, I wasn't fat the last time we did our thing, so why am I fat now?? Just a way to win an argument because you can't do it on an intelligent level I guess. Well when guys do that, we're pretty much done; it's not like you don't have eyes, you know I'm big so if you choose to date me anyway then you must like it right?

A lifetime of this mess and it does get hard to trust sometimes......

 

[rhiannon]

*looks at thread* Really now?

I said "in reality"! 🙂 Meaning "real life"! 🙂 Forums don't count! 🙂

Being put down starts in high school! By the time bigger women reach the age where men are mature enough to admit that they like something that differs from the mainstream, they already are through a lot of insulting and have been made fun of on a daily basis!

I don't think anybody could seriously claim that thin women have a harder time finding boyfriends than bigger women! And this is meant in general, of course there are thin women who are total bitches and never find a man, or big women who have no problem with it at all!

 

[Excess]

I said "in reality"! 🙂 Meaning "real life"! 🙂 Forums don't count! 🙂

Being put down starts in high school! By the time bigger women reach the age where men are mature enough to admit that they like something that differs from the mainstream, they already are through a lot of insulting and have been made fun of on a daily basis!

I don't think anybody could seriously claim that thin women have a harder time finding boyfriends than bigger women! And this is meant in general, of course there are thin women who are total bitches and never find a man, or big women who have no problem with it at all!

Well I know that. That's why I said in the media. As in the mainstream. But there are a lot of people that don't go along with the mainstream. I would be one of them. And there are a lot more than people think. So when I said all of that, I meant out of the mainstream.

Of course this doesn't count for the HS and below demographic, since the majority of them are just drones that hold on to popular opinion in hopes of being liked by their peers. But I would hope most everyone here was out of that, though I can't guarantee that for obvious reasons. <_<

 

[Sanhael]

I said "in reality"! 🙂 Meaning "real life"! 🙂 Forums don't count! 🙂

Being put down starts in high school! By the time bigger women reach the age where men are mature enough to admit that they like something that differs from the mainstream, they already are through a lot of insulting and have been made fun of on a daily basis!

I don't think anybody could seriously claim that thin women have a harder time finding boyfriends than bigger women! And this is meant in general, of course there are thin women who are total bitches and never find a man, or big women who have no problem with it at all!

Curves. Are. Main. Stream. And, yes, I see thin women being told, quite frequently, that they're unattractive... or simply "too thin." It doesn't matter what ten nice guys say about a woman, though, when one cute-looking, "cool," "bad boy" type that said woman doesn't even know comes along and calls her fat, or a pig, or even just a "big girl." Suddenly, she's fat again, and the genuine feelings of the people who actually care enough about her that they ought to matter are thrown by the wayside.

 

[rhiannon]

Of course this doesn't count for the HS and below demographic, since the majority of them are just drones that hold on to popular opinion in hopes of being liked by their peers. But I would hope most everyone here was out of that, though I can't guarantee that for obvious reasons. <_<

If that is fact, then why are the girls in most tickling clips shaped pretty media perfect? There are clips with girls that would be considered overweight judging from their BMI, but they are few and far between compared to the number of clips with thin models!

Curves. Are. Main. Stream. And, yes, I see thin women being told, quite frequently, that they're unattractive... or simply "too thin." It doesn't matter what ten nice guys say about a woman, though, when one cute-looking, "cool," "bad boy" type that said woman doesn't even know comes along and calls her fat, or a pig, or even just a "big girl." Suddenly, she's fat again, and the genuine feelings of the people who actually care enough about her that they ought to matter are thrown by the wayside.

Totally agreed. Women tend to forget the nice things said to us while the mean things are practically tattooed into our brains.

 

[Excess]

If that is fact, then why are the girls in most tickling clips shaped pretty media perfect? There are clips with girls that would be considered overweight judging from their BMI, but they are few and far between compared to the number of clips with thin models!

Ok, not sure what that has to do with HS kids, but I can't say for sure because I'm not involved in it. I do doubt many tickling producers are actively turning down larger women though. It's probably partially because larger women are more insecure, so there probably aren't as many of them willing to be video taped in underwear or whatever.

 

[rhiannon]

It doesn't have anything to do with HS kids, I was referring to your statement that people here are grown out of the behavior to follow the others. Which I don't doubt! There just is a certain beauty ideal in society, and it is formed by the media. If you show a picture of a perfectly shaped slender woman and a picture of a bigger woman to an average guy asking which one he finds more attractive, he will most likely choose the slender woman.

It's probably partially because larger women are more insecure, so there probably aren't as many of them willing to be video taped in underwear or whatever.

And they are more insecure because....we are closing the circle here. 🙂

Plus, not all tickling clips are filmed in underwear, and there are plenty of plus-sized models! Plenty!! They just aren't booked as much as the slender ones, because the market doesn't want the material as much.

I also have seen it a lot that there were clips posted on here where bigger girls or mature women were tickled which weren't as beautiful as the usual models, and they got some really nasty comments!

 

[chicago]

If you think Bettie Page and Marilyn Monroe aren't pretty, you are blind and shouldn't be talking about what's attractive or not anyway. If they weren't, they wouldn't still be idolized/admired today.

 

[Marquis De Sade]

I've looked at a few of the more recent posts in this thread here and what sucks even harder is what I've always thought true, based on some of the posts...

When you tell a "curvy" woman she's beautiful, she usually doesn't believe you and just smiles, nods her head and maybe says something like, "Aw, how sweet." Does she believe it? Usually, no. She goes right back to having self-esteem issues. And that sucks balls when you're being sincere. So thanks 1950's, media, Twiggy, whatever. You all can bite it.

I know some awesome, AWESOME people, some new, some I've been friends with for longer and it sucks big ones when all you want is for them to see themselves as you see them so they can focus on something more important because they're perfectly freaking FINE. Living in LA, Rail Thin gets real old, real fast. They all wind up looking like clones of whoever's on what billboard, what magazine, what show or movie. What winds up happening? You can't carry an interesting conversation with them for more than a couple hours (I'm being realistic), or if it doesn't involve text messaging. Food deprives the brain apparently.

Meangry - Excellent, excellent point btw.

Rhiannon -

Thin women usually don't need reassurance, they will be complimented.

Not necessarily true. A friend and I used to hit up parties, clubs, bars together all the time here. The best advice we gave each other if all we wanted was to go out and get a bunch of phone numbers? Talk up the hottest one in the room. On purpose. Why? Because she's usually the easiest. This is what goes on in her head:

Me: Hey. I'm___________

Her: OMG...is my bra showing? Do I have something in my teeth? I just ate so I hope there's nothing in my...does my breath smell? I hope it doesn't smell. I should wash it out with anoth...omg they'll think I'm an alcoholic, I should maybe...oh shit is my lipsti...omg I have no frickin' idea what they're talking about they're going to think I'm stu...do I sound dumb? Am I coming across like a bitch? Shit.

That's a parody obviously. And I have no idea if that's what truly went on in their heads but the ones who fit the mold of what society deems "HAWT!" were much easier to talk to simply because you could have the same conversation with five of them, all at different parties and expect the same, standard, text book answers from all. There are of course, exceptions to the rule.

The really interesting women? The more "curvy" ones? They were awesome because they never tried to explain who was who on The Hills to me. Sucky thing is, more than a few times I've just given up trying to break down that defensive barrier they've put up and walk around with due to everyone who came before me who gave them shit for something retarded. Sometimes it's hopeless so again, thank you magazines, media, blah blah blah.

 

[rhiannon]

I loled at your parody. 🙂 You're probably right about it, at least a little bit...some girls are too busy trying to be perfect. Bigger women usually don't see a need for that because they think they will never be perfect anyways. 😉

But you already realized that they are harder to talk to, and that is because they are wary of some idiot just chatting them up to embarrass them, if possible in public.

 

[Bohemianne]

It is our business to keep our bodies trim and as assured here in this thread, at least up to curvaceous limits only. Do we do this for anyone? We do this to feel good.

Folks, it is called DISCIPLINE, otherwise blame the genes and work it out!

...or swallow the bitter pill and be ridiculed on uncertain period of one lifetime.

Well, if there is still paradox, we can't really do anything about the mainstream thing called "unpleasant look". In that case, we should just wear BURQA and LIVE IT.

 

[Excess]

If you think Bettie Page and Marilyn Monroe aren't pretty, you are blind and shouldn't be talking about what's attractive or not anyway. If they weren't, they wouldn't still be idolized/admired today.

OH HO! Well I'm sorry then, but honestly I just don't find them that pretty. I think most people find them so attractive because they're told to. I didn't say they were UGLY, I just said that they aren't the most gorgeous beautiful perfect looking women to ever exist like they're made out to be.

And if you want to get into "If they weren't, they wouldn't still be idolized/admired today.", then there are plenty of examples I can bring up of people that are overrated. Hell, right now, right out of the Transformers movie is Shia LeBouf or whatever.

And they are more insecure because....we are closing the circle here.

Plus, not all tickling clips are filmed in underwear, and there are plenty of plus-sized models! Plenty!! They just aren't booked as much as the slender ones, because the market doesn't want the material as much.

I also have seen it a lot that there were clips posted on here where bigger girls or mature women were tickled which weren't as beautiful as the usual models, and they got some really nasty comments!

Doesn't mean thinner women don't get flak too though. And that was the main point.

Again, neither of us can say why there aren't as many plus-sized models in tickling clips, unless you work in several of them. It's true that the market doesn't want that as much, never said it did, but being actively discriminated against isn't something I'm so sure of.

And yeah, nasty comments, sure. But in this case we have a very outspoken group that will complain about anything that doesn't appeal just to them. "I don't like that you can see the guy's face!" or "Not enough feet!!!". Yeah...not much to say on that...

 

[chicago]

OH HO! Well I'm sorry then, but honestly I just don't find them that pretty. I think most people find them so attractive because they're told to. I didn't say they were UGLY, I just said that they aren't the most gorgeous beautiful perfect looking women to ever exist like they're made out to be.

And if you want to get into "If they weren't, they wouldn't still be idolized/admired today.", then there are plenty of examples I can bring up of people that are overrated. Hell, right now, right out of the Transformers movie is Shia LeBouf or whatever.

I doubt the Transformers movie is going to be recognized in the same way 50 years from now.

 

[Bohemianne]

Well, I have to admit that this thread is right, all the men (and women) I talked to casually, in a serious manner prefer curves, but wait until they get absorbed while watching TV or looking at by-passers when you're with them, and they will nitpick and worst for the extra bulge in one way or another.

No problem with extra bulge, but cellulite is another.

-o0o-

Well, at times a wife is ultra-slim, then after 10 years of marriage she begins to have flabs....and so on and so forth. At times this is a question of "love" [LOL].

 

[kis123]

Well, I have to admit that this thread is right, all the men (and women) I talked to casually, in a serious manner prefer curves, but wait until they get absorbed while watching TV or looking at by-passes when you're with them, and they will nitpick and worst for the extra bulge in one way or another.

No problem with extra bulge, but cellulite is another.

That certainly depends on who you ask!

I'm subscribed on many BBW and SSBBW sites and there are many slim to fit men (as well as bodybuilders) who prefer large women to smaller ones. Sometimes those who criticize are the one's who protesteth too much!

 

[Bohemianne]

That certainly depends on who you ask!

I'm subscribed on many BBW and SSBBW sites and there are many slim to fit men (as well as bodybuilders) who prefer large women to smaller ones. Sometimes those who criticize are the one's who protesteth too much!

I'll keep that in mind. I'm not aware of BBW's POV on small women, so please give me links via PM if possible... It just surprises me when some of my acquaintances really nitpick on bulges, and it is existing.

Actually people would nitpick on many things not just fats. Of course, I won't lead this topic somewhere else. So let's stick to it. Argh!

 

[kis123]

I'll keep that in mind. I'm not aware of BBW's POV on small women, so please give me links via PM if possible... It just surprises me when some of my acquaintances really nitpick on bulges, and it is existing.

Actually people would nitpick on many things not just fats. Of course, I won't lead this topic somewhere else. So let's stick to it. Argh!

Honestly, I'm not overly concerned about what BBW's think about small women or the other way around. I want men who want to be with women like me; the rest can work on their own preferences. There are plenty of men out there (and I don't mean large guys either) who love BBW's and bigger. They might not tell that to their thin counterparts, but it's not their business either.

 

[Bohemianne]

Honestly, I'm not overly concerned about what BBW's think about small women or the other way around. I want men who want to be with women like me; the rest can work on their own preferences. There are plenty of men out there (and I don't mean large guys either) who love BBW's and bigger. They might not tell that to their thin counterparts, but it's not their business either.

Can't rule out what one prefers... I get your point though.

But shucks, made me ponder...what would BBM think of tiny women? I assume it's vice versa. This made me pause a bit and I think I'll research sometime.

[I have no issues on this but I am tiny....waaaaaahh ....anyone, please donate at least 4 inches to my height and...and some "C" or "D" for my bra cup.]

 

[kis123]

Can't rule out what one prefers... I get your point though.

But shucks, made me ponder...what would BBM think of tiny women? I assume it's vice versa. This made me pause a bit and I think I'll research sometime.

[I have no issues on this but I am tiny....waaaaaahh ....anyone, please donate at least 4 inches to my height and...and some "C" or "D" for my bra cup.]

One of my best girlfriends is 5'2' and about 130lbs. She won't date a man under 250lbs. Everyone has their preferences! Her ex husband (6'0" and 300lbs) and I had one funny conversation about a decade ago about size preferences; we both prefered smaller partners. I've since been with a bigger guy and it's all good in the neighborhood to me! I'm not overly picky anyway when it comes to the men in my life.

 

[Bohemianne]

One of my best girlfriends is 5'2' and about 130lbs. She won't date a man under 250lbs. Everyone has their preferences! Her ex husband (6'0" and 300lbs) and I had one funny conversation about a decade ago about size preferences; we both prefered smaller partners. I've since been with a bigger guy and it's all good in the neighborhood to me! I'm not overly picky anyway when it comes to the men in my life.

Wow. Really? Oh well, I am picky. The guy must have fat and extra-obese brains and curvy self-confidence. As if...lol.

😀

 

[kis123]

Wow. Really? Oh well, I am picky. The guy must have fat and extra-obese brains and curvy self-confidence. As if...lol.

😀

Okay??

We all have our preferences, some more than others I guess.

I'm more into personality anyway. I'm all over the place with body size/type; biggest guy was nearly 400lbs and smallest about 160lbs. If he has a pleasant face and great conversation, I'll check him out and see where it goes.

My days of selling options to others are long over; there are those who are particular and have to have exactly what they want in order to be happy. No problem and more power to them. Maybe all the rejections I got solely based on looks/size makes me a little more open minded than some--more willing to give someone who doesn't perfectly fit my profile a chance. I've met some interesting gentlemen that way; none of them were perfect, but we had a lot of fun while it lasted!😀