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Renfaire 2.0

The pandemic may have been a bigger blow than anything else. The troupe that used to perform at Canelli and other venues in northern Italy (they were even hired to set up in shopping malls, and people loved it) was active through 2019, but their website went offline during the pandemic and never came back. As far as I can tell, the Canelli festival itself - even though it was THE tourist event for the whole region for decades, and encouraged the tickling stocks for 20 years (again, they were very popular with the tourists) - stopped in 2020 and never came back.

I think you are right, the pandemic was a big factor. All events were cancelled and I guess that even after the restrictions were lifted, people still tried to maintain some social distancing rules and wouldn't agree to be locked in stocks and touched by others.

Also, from what I remember, Canelli actually stopped much earlier, and I think the last one took place in 2016. It was postponed because the city couldn't afford to organise this event any longer. But perhaps they will renew it at some point.

But I still think that the Renfaire Tickling might not return for some time. I think we tend to overlook that there was literally only one group in Italy doing it and it wasn't that common. So if this group ceased to exist, it is natural that the whole activity disappeared. Perhaps someone will renew it
 
I think you are right, the pandemic was a big factor. All events were cancelled and I guess that even after the restrictions were lifted, people still tried to maintain some social distancing rules and wouldn't agree to be locked in stocks and touched by others.

Also, from what I remember, Canelli actually stopped much earlier, and I think the last one took place in 2016. It was postponed because the city couldn't afford to organise this event any longer. But perhaps they will renew it at some point.

But I still think that the Renfaire Tickling might not return for some time. I think we tend to overlook that there was literally only one group in Italy doing it and it wasn't that common. So if this group ceased to exist, it is natural that the whole activity disappeared. Perhaps someone will renew it

I agree with all of that. (I really don't know when Canelli stopped. Tourist sites were still talking about it up until the pandemic... but they may simply have been behind the times. A few still mention it, and it's definitely not happening now. The last event with the stocks troupe I know of was in 2019, at a different location.)

You're absolutely right that the renfaire tickling was just 2 groups - one in northern Italy, one in France. They were very popular, but purely local and just them.

Personally, I think the best way to bring tickling stocks back to public events is to frame it as a challenge for charity and take volunteers. No one can argue with something people offer to do themselves. Make it available, and friends/family will practically push people into the stocks and egg on the tickling. And make it so the longer the "victim" lasts the more money is raised for charity, and people will cheerfully brave it for a fair amount of time.
 
I agree with all of that. (I really don't know when Canelli stopped. Tourist sites were still talking about it up until the pandemic... but they may simply have been behind the times. A few still mention it, and it's definitely not happening now. The last event with the stocks troupe I know of was in 2019, at a different location.)

Well, I'm also not saying I'm 100% correct, but I just haven't seen any footage of photos from any Canelli festival past 2016 (and I'm not just talking about tickle stuff, but any footage from this event). I've also seen few articles saying that the city had some financial problems and were not able to organize this event. There were some other events hosted in Canelli though, so perhaps that's were the confusion started.

You're absolutely right that the renfaire tickling was just 2 groups - one in northern Italy, one in France. They were very popular, but purely local and just them.

Yeah, I feel like we sometimes tend to forget how rare and local Renfaire Tickling was in reality. Even in France it technically happened on multiple festivals, but was always done by the same people.

Personally, I think the best way to bring tickling stocks back to public events is to frame it as a challenge for charity and take volunteers. No one can argue with something people offer to do themselves. Make it available, and friends/family will practically push people into the stocks and egg on the tickling. And make it so the longer the "victim" lasts the more money is raised for charity, and people will cheerfully brave it for a fair amount of time.

I could work. For example they could get some reward, like a coupon for food or some souvenirs and the reward could depend on how long they will last. IYou can do a lot of different scenarios, but I still feel that there is a bigger issue here. First of all, I imagine the organisers of any event - after hearing such an idea proposed - would try to google it and would eventually find out that for many people it is a fetish material. And might decide against it, just to be safe. Also, if it's too successful and the news spread, it might attract the wrong type of people, who would make sexual comments towards the participants. And again, in such scenario the organisers would decide to cancel this activity.
 
I could work. For example they could get some reward, like a coupon for food or some souvenirs and the reward could depend on how long they will last. IYou can do a lot of different scenarios, but I still feel that there is a bigger issue here. First of all, I imagine the organisers of any event - after hearing such an idea proposed - would try to google it and would eventually find out that for many people it is a fetish material. And might decide against it, just to be safe. Also, if it's too successful and the news spread, it might attract the wrong type of people, who would make sexual comments towards the participants. And again, in such scenario the organisers would decide to cancel this activity.

All of that is true. But I think if the tourists liked it, it could work and survive. Good security could get rid of people making inappropriate remarks. (And of course such an event wouldn't only be women. Canelli wasn't either, but only the videos of women tended to get online.)

A rather odd British politician who wants to bring back public stocks as a punishment actually pitched using them for charity-fundraising tickling challenges.
 
All of that is true. But I think if the tourists liked it, it could work and survive. Good security could get rid of people making inappropriate remarks. (And of course such an event wouldn't only be women. Canelli wasn't either, but only the videos of women tended to get online.)

A rather odd British politician who wants to bring back public stocks as a punishment actually pitched using them for charity-fundraising tickling challenges.

You might be right. After all people in Canelli seemed to enjoyed it or find it amusing. And it wasn't like one hour torture, but just few minutes in stocks. But I agree, it could work, especially if both men and women were tickled. I also think that if the women did tickling instead of men, this whole activity would be seen as more innocent and acceptable (but that's just my opinion). Perhaps it could also work better if tickling was one of several "torture" methods? Or two sets of stocks, so two friends/couple could compete to see who will manage to withstand the torture longer?

Still, I think the biggest problem is the footage that might appear on the internet. Because I'm afraid that if the organisers put a video or photo of someone being tickled in stocks on their official social media pages, there would be several awkward comments under those posts. And this might ruin the whole thing.
 
You might be right. After all people in Canelli seemed to enjoyed it or find it amusing. And it wasn't like one hour torture, but just few minutes in stocks. But I agree, it could work, especially if both men and women were tickled. I also think that if the women did tickling instead of men, this whole activity would be seen as more innocent and acceptable (but that's just my opinion). Perhaps it could also work better if tickling was one of several "torture" methods? Or two sets of stocks, so two friends/couple could compete to see who will manage to withstand the torture longer?

Still, I think the biggest problem is the footage that might appear on the internet. Because I'm afraid that if the organisers put a video or photo of someone being tickled in stocks on their official social media pages, there would be several awkward comments under those posts. And this might ruin the whole thing.

The Italian troupe stopped most footage from getting onto the internet in its last few years. So it can be done - more or less. The last pictures I've seen from them actually were from the official page of an event in northern Italy in 2019. Those pictures are still up, so presumably they didn't have problems.

And yes, it was very popular in Canelli and other places the troupe went. The crowd and the "victims" pretty much always took it in good fun.
 
Guys lets not forget our good old German friends with Burg frankenstein and Fassnets. True not exactly renaissance theme but still people getting tickled at Fairs/Festivals. In Fassnets there's only sneaky feet tickles while Burg Frankenstein has tickling as one of several "torture" methods. Honestly what makes these fairs interesting and enjoyable are the actors doing the tickling.

With the idea of only women doing the tickling instead of men, I don't believe that would work. If you look at Stimulating Reflexology renfaire videos it's always the woman doing the tickling and this might just be my take but those videos give off a very bad vibe and just make me uncomfortable watching them. And I'm a tickle-holic. The reason why you would see some women in the italian canelli videos willingly step into the stocks even though they know they'll be tickled is because they want to live the experience.

That's the biggest difference between Stimulating Reflexology and all these other fair tickling videos. In Stimulating Reflexology the participant is just sitting down and all eyes on them. It can be intimidating with everyone just watching you like that. While all these other fairs like Italian Canelli, French, Burg, Fassnet heck even Kujman did was that the actors involved the participants in the skit. They'd be continuously talking to them and the crowd as they tickled. All eyes were on the actors not the participant and the actors are the ones who give the participants the exciting experience. Their job is to create a fun and enjoyable atmosphere. If you can do that then it's probably possible to bring this back even in todays standards.

Anyway enough about my tangent. I scrounge through facebook and even though there's no tickling here it's still a relatively new clip from the French tickling that I found.
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Guys lets not forget our good old German friends with Burg frankenstein and Fassnets. True not exactly renaissance theme but still people getting tickled at Fairs/Festivals. In Fassnets there's only sneaky feet tickles while Burg Frankenstein has tickling as one of several "torture" methods. Honestly what makes these fairs interesting and enjoyable are the actors doing the tickling.

With the idea of only women doing the tickling instead of men, I don't believe that would work. If you look at Stimulating Reflexology renfaire videos it's always the woman doing the tickling and this might just be my take but those videos give off a very bad vibe and just make me uncomfortable watching them. And I'm a tickle-holic. The reason why you would see some women in the italian canelli videos willingly step into the stocks even though they know they'll be tickled is because they want to live the experience.

That's the biggest difference between Stimulating Reflexology and all these other fair tickling videos. In Stimulating Reflexology the participant is just sitting down and all eyes on them. It can be intimidating with everyone just watching you like that. While all these other fairs like Italian Canelli, French, Burg, Fassnet heck even Kujman did was that the actors involved the participants in the skit. They'd be continuously talking to them and the crowd as they tickled. All eyes were on the actors not the participant and the actors are the ones who give the participants the exciting experience. Their job is to create a fun and enjoyable atmosphere. If you can do that then it's probably possible to bring this back even in todays standards.

Anyway enough about my tangent. I scrounge through facebook and even though there's no tickling here it's still a relatively new clip from the French tickling that I found.
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You make good points.

I agree that for the "volunteer to get tickled for charity" idea to work you'd need a troupe of performers to handle the tickling, whether using stocks or some other method. That would engage the crowd (often especially the "victim's" friends and/or family), and make the experience fun for the volunteers.
 
These events where they snatch up participants and place them in such scenarios for fun rub me the wrong way. I can understand the parades where it is known tradition for them to do certain things, etc. Even the renfair ones to an extent, if its the family or friends pushing the person into it for fun rather than just randomly taken. Those dont really bother me so much. But some of these other ones... A lot of people would not appreciate having their shirts pulled up to expose your bare torso (I guess its okay because they are men (sarcasm)) Not everyone feels good about their appearance or wants to share it publicly. I imagine the actors use some discretion such as picking people who look fitter, etc. but what if the person had lost a lot of weight and left with lots of stretched skin and did not want that shown, etc.? Im sure less likely, but what if they snatched someone to take their shoes and socks and they had some awful medical condition with really bad callousing etc....

I was selected for one of these random lets have a joke on your expense so the audience can have a laugh at it type things at a big venue, having no idea it was a possibility, and while it was not these sort of themes, and generally would be fun for most people, because of personal circumstances ( unknown to them, and if not for them I wouldn't have cared) it made me incredibly uncomfortable and ruined the rest of the event for me.
 
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With the idea of only women doing the tickling instead of men, I don't believe that would work. If you look at Stimulating Reflexology renfaire videos it's always the woman doing the tickling and this might just be my take but those videos give off a very bad vibe and just make me uncomfortable watching them. And I'm a tickle-holic. The reason why you would see some women in the italian canelli videos willingly step into the stocks even though they know they'll be tickled is because they want to live the experience.
Well, I think that even in Canelli there were also some "female guards" tickling people in stocks, so it might work. But then again, I'm not going to argue about it. I simply think that if the women did the tickling, it would be seen as more innocent than a men doing it. But it's just my opinion and I could be wrong.

That's the biggest difference between Stimulating Reflexology and all these other fair tickling videos. In Stimulating Reflexology the participant is just sitting down and all eyes on them. It can be intimidating with everyone just watching you like that. While all these other fairs like Italian Canelli, French, Burg, Fassnet heck even Kujman did was that the actors involved the participants in the skit. They'd be continuously talking to them and the crowd as they tickled. All eyes were on the actors not the participant and the actors are the ones who give the participants the exciting experience. Their job is to create a fun and enjoyable atmosphere. If you can do that then it's probably possible to bring this back even in todays standards.
And this is an excellent point, I've never though about it but you are right. And you help me to realise why I felt uncomfortable watching some of Stimulating Reflexology clips. The guards in Canelli made a show out of it. They made jokes, constantly talked to a person being tickled and the audience, and did their best to make it fun. I also thinks that since there was a lot of commotion during those festivals, no one in stocks felt that everyone is looking at them or they are the only ones being tickled. And this festive atmosphere could even encourage some people to volunteer or be more willing to show their weakness. And Stimulating Reflexology failed to create this enjoyable atmosphere, the woman just sits in silence and the whole thing seems to drag out, even if in reality it's not that long.

So you are right, if someone wanted to recreate it, they would need to create a good script and make sure they engage everyone in the show.
 
These events where they snatch up participants and place them in such scenarios for fun rub me the wrong way. I can understand the parades where it is known tradition for them to do certain things, etc. Even the renfair ones to an extent, if its the family or friends pushing the person into it for fun rather than just randomly taken. Those dont really bother me so much. But some of these other ones... A lot of people would not appreciate having their shirts pulled up to expose your bare torso (I guess its okay because they are men (sarcasm)) Not everyone feels good about their appearance or wants to share it publicly. I imagine the actors use some discretion such as picking people who look fitter, etc. but what if the person had lost a lot of weight and left with lots of stretched skin and did not want that shown, etc.? Im sure less likely, but what if they snatched someone to take their shoes and socks and they had some awful medical condition with really bad callousing etc....

I was selected for one of these random lets have a joke on your expense so the audience can have a laugh at it type things at a big venue, having no idea it was a possibility, and while it was not these sort of themes, and generally would be fun for most people, because of personal circumstances ( unknown to them, and if not for them I wouldn't have cared) it made me incredibly uncomfortable and ruined the rest of the event for me.
I'm really sorry to hear you had an unpleasant situation. I get what you mean and it might sound hypocritical, but I also don't think anyone should be forced to do it if they don't feel comfortable about it.

I might be wrong, but I think that even in those Italian fairs, especially more recent ones, they always talked with people before putting them in the stocks, so they were not completely unaware of what will happen.
 
There was a lot of interaction between the "victims" and the troupe from the "arrest" onwards. I don't think they told people "we're going to tickle you," but the stocks were a big feature of the faire (the old Canelli website prominently talked about them) and clearly almost everyone knew about them and had seen them and knew what would happen. One woman started taking her own shoes off, and when the troupe made a show of surprise she said "I understand the game." Others made a big show of trying to escape, laughing all the while... and usually with their friends or family pushing them back in. The troupe never forced anyone. They told people to sit down and be locked in, but they weren't actual police with actual power... people could refuse, and some did. Even in the videos, there's at least one woman who humorously but firmly says no, and they drop it and move on to someone else. But there are also cases like a woman who just wasn't ticklish; when they couldn't get any reaction from her, they declared "okay, we'll get revenge on your friend" and told her friend - who was standing watching - to get into the stocks... which the friend (who was very ticklish) cheerfully did. There are other videos where the released "victim" stays to watch other people get tickled. The troupe also said spectators would volunteer to go next, and people they'd tickled in previous years would come back and ask to do it again.

So there was a large element of tacit consent, which is exactly why everyone is clearly having so much fun.

All of that being said, I do think if any attempt were made to revive the idea, it would be wise to make consent explicit... which is why I like the "volunteer to get tickled to raise money for charity" idea.
 
There was a lot of interaction between the "victims" and the troupe from the "arrest" onwards. I don't think they told people "we're going to tickle you," but the stocks were a big feature of the faire (the old Canelli website prominently talked about them) and clearly almost everyone knew about them and had seen them and knew what would happen. One woman started taking her own shoes off, and when the troupe made a show of surprise she said "I understand the game." Others made a big show of trying to escape, laughing all the while... and usually with their friends or family pushing them back in. The troupe never forced anyone. They told people to sit down and be locked in, but they weren't actual police with actual power... people could refuse, and some did. Even in the videos, there's at least one woman who humorously but firmly says no, and they drop it and move on to someone else. But there are also cases like a woman who just wasn't ticklish; when they couldn't get any reaction from her, they declared "okay, we'll get revenge on your friend" and told her friend - who was standing watching - to get into the stocks... which the friend (who was very ticklish) cheerfully did. There are other videos where the released "victim" stays to watch other people get tickled. The troupe also said spectators would volunteer to go next, and people they'd tickled in previous years would come back and ask to do it again.

So there was a large element of tacit consent, which is exactly why everyone is clearly having so much fun.

All of that being said, I do think if any attempt were made to revive the idea, it would be wise to make consent explicit... which is why I like the "volunteer to get tickled to raise money for charity" idea.
I think they also changed how they approach the tickling based on the person's reaction. For example, if someone was just going along with it, they just did the basic scenario. But when someone started to play along, like talk with them, ask questions or make jokes, they also tickled them longer or more intensively. I remember that one woman said at the beginning that she had already done it before and she enjoyed it and she later cited the manual the guard were using. This amused them and she got some additional tickling. So this also made it better as people doing the tickling felt how far they can go with each person. Also, if someone clearly volunteered to be locked in stocks, they were sometimes tickled more intensively.

In Canelli you also had to purchase a stamped pass to avoid being arrested and tickled. And I think it was a nice idea, because you could get there for free as well, but risk being arrested and tickled if you don't have this pass. So in a way people knew what might happen.

But I agree, if someone tried to start it now, making sure volunteers know what they ae getting themself into would be crucial. Because - as we discussed - not everyone would be willing to participate. On the other had, if the setting and atmosphere is right, many would decide to do it. I sometimes feel like people are generally more open to try new or unusual things that we often assume.

I think the charity tickle is an interesting concept, but I think that even nowadays the "torture scenario" could work. It just needs to be in the right setting, like medieval or renaissance faire, because people know that stocks exists, people were punished publicly, so it fits the mood. This is another mistake that Stimulating Reflexology did in my opinion - they put renaissance stocks in some "non-historic" festivals and the whole thing just didn't fit there and people saw it as weird and out of place.
 
I think they also changed how they approach the tickling based on the person's reaction. For example, if someone was just going along with it, they just did the basic scenario. But when someone started to play along, like talk with them, ask questions or make jokes, they also tickled them longer or more intensively. I remember that one woman said at the beginning that she had already done it before and she enjoyed it and she later cited the manual the guard were using. This amused them and she got some additional tickling. So this also made it better as people doing the tickling felt how far they can go with each person. Also, if someone clearly volunteered to be locked in stocks, they were sometimes tickled more intensively.

In Canelli you also had to purchase a stamped pass to avoid being arrested and tickled. And I think it was a nice idea, because you could get there for free as well, but risk being arrested and tickled if you don't have this pass. So in a way people knew what might happen.

But I agree, if someone tried to start it now, making sure volunteers know what they ae getting themself into would be crucial. Because - as we discussed - not everyone would be willing to participate. On the other had, if the setting and atmosphere is right, many would decide to do it. I sometimes feel like people are generally more open to try new or unusual things that we often assume.

I think the charity tickle is an interesting concept, but I think that even nowadays the "torture scenario" could work. It just needs to be in the right setting, like medieval or renaissance faire, because people know that stocks exists, people were punished publicly, so it fits the mood. This is another mistake that Stimulating Reflexology did in my opinion - they put renaissance stocks in some "non-historic" festivals and the whole thing just didn't fit there and people saw it as weird and out of place.

My favorite renfaire videos are the ones where the "victim" makes a show of defying the ticklers and refuses to repent (for a bit). The back and forth teasing is the best scenario, and yes, they definitely took cues from the "victim" on how long to go. They also took cues from friends and family of the person in the stocks. It was common for families to urge the troupe to tickle their family member, and even to join in.

There are several videos with women who'd been tickled before. One laughingly 'objects' "you get me EVERY year!"
 
My reasoning is that there must be plenty of material never released. For example, there are several Casei Medievale videos, featuring several of the girls that appeared on the pictures. But not all. The existence of those videos, that are from different years, implies that most probably all or near all girls were recorded.

Maybe one day we will see it all...
 
My reasoning is that there must be plenty of material never released. For example, there are several Casei Medievale videos, featuring several of the girls that appeared on the pictures. But not all. The existence of those videos, that are from different years, implies that most probably all or near all girls were recorded.

Maybe one day we will see it all...
This might be true, but at the same time I think that the assumption that every photo has a video is a bit too optimistic. You know, for most of us here tickling is the most important part of those festivals. But from the point of view of "normal people" (people who are not into tickling) it is just one of many entertainments offered by those festivals. And from their perspective, it is as interesting as jousting tournament of archery competition. So even if they publish some photos, their will probably put only one image of someone being tickled and that's it. The same goes for the websites and social media of said events.
 
This might be true, but at the same time I think that the assumption that every photo has a video is a bit too optimistic. You know, for most of us here tickling is the most important part of those festivals. But from the point of view of "normal people" (people who are not into tickling) it is just one of many entertainments offered by those festivals. And from their perspective, it is as interesting as jousting tournament of archery competition. So even if they publish some photos, their will probably put only one image of someone being tickled and that's it. The same goes for the websites and social media of said events.
That's very true... although I think the audience participation element attracts some special attention.

But yes, there can of course be photos without videos.
 
UKTickling is great but i miss FF/F F/M and Forced orgasm included in some clips.

I really don't like M/F tickling, not sexy at all to me, i like to see sharp fingers and evil women doing the tickling!
 
Guys lets not forget our good old German friends with Burg frankenstein and Fassnets. True not exactly renaissance theme but still people getting tickled at Fairs/Festivals. In Fassnets there's only sneaky feet tickles while Burg Frankenstein has tickling as one of several "torture" methods. Honestly what makes these fairs interesting and enjoyable are the actors doing the tickling.

With the idea of only women doing the tickling instead of men, I don't believe that would work. If you look at Stimulating Reflexology renfaire videos it's always the woman doing the tickling and this might just be my take but those videos give off a very bad vibe and just make me uncomfortable watching them. And I'm a tickle-holic. The reason why you would see some women in the italian canelli videos willingly step into the stocks even though they know they'll be tickled is because they want to live the experience.

That's the biggest difference between Stimulating Reflexology and all these other fair tickling videos. In Stimulating Reflexology the participant is just sitting down and all eyes on them. It can be intimidating with everyone just watching you like that. While all these other fairs like Italian Canelli, French, Burg, Fassnet heck even Kujman did was that the actors involved the participants in the skit. They'd be continuously talking to them and the crowd as they tickled. All eyes were on the actors not the participant and the actors are the ones who give the participants the exciting experience. Their job is to create a fun and enjoyable atmosphere. If you can do that then it's probably possible to bring this back even in todays standards.

Anyway enough about my tangent. I scrounge through facebook and even though there's no tickling here it's still a relatively new clip from the French tickling that I found.
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Speaking of Burg frankenstein videos, I always appreciated that they never hesitate to tickle the females in the torture rack. Those were entertaining to say the least.

I do miss the Canelli days of old YouTube. Back when videos were free.
 
Guys lets not forget our good old German friends with Burg frankenstein and Fassnets. True not exactly renaissance theme but still people getting tickled at Fairs/Festivals. In Fassnets there's only sneaky feet tickles while Burg Frankenstein has tickling as one of several "torture" methods. Honestly what makes these fairs interesting and enjoyable are the actors doing the tickling.

With the idea of only women doing the tickling instead of men, I don't believe that would work. If you look at Stimulating Reflexology renfaire videos it's always the woman doing the tickling and this might just be my take but those videos give off a very bad vibe and just make me uncomfortable watching them. And I'm a tickle-holic. The reason why you would see some women in the italian canelli videos willingly step into the stocks even though they know they'll be tickled is because they want to live the experience.

That's the biggest difference between Stimulating Reflexology and all these other fair tickling videos. In Stimulating Reflexology the participant is just sitting down and all eyes on them. It can be intimidating with everyone just watching you like that. While all these other fairs like Italian Canelli, French, Burg, Fassnet heck even Kujman did was that the actors involved the participants in the skit. They'd be continuously talking to them and the crowd as they tickled. All eyes were on the actors not the participant and the actors are the ones who give the participants the exciting experience. Their job is to create a fun and enjoyable atmosphere. If you can do that then it's probably possible to bring this back even in todays standards.

Anyway enough about my tangent. I scrounge through facebook and even though there's no tickling here it's still a relatively new clip from the French tickling that I found.
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Stimulating Reflexology is staged and hired models, no?
 
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