Nowhere am I suggesting that having a kink or engaging in it is immoral.
I wasn't saying it because of any suggestion, it was more for the people who will read it in the future, and feel that particular sentiment.
As far as I am concerned the sharing of videos taken at a public event with the participants permission are no different to upskirting the setting is a totally irrelevant factor in this case. Even if the initial renfair footage was initially filmed innocently, the moment it gets co-opted for sexualised purposes it places the subjects in a unfair position. If it was your partner in those stocks would you share the footage without her permission? Of course not, so how is the fact it is a stranger any different?
And of course, totally your position. But, the issue with pornhub is that Porn sites are objectively a disgusting place. Putting something that is subjectively sexual to a small sliver of the human population on a place that is objectively trashy, degenerate and makes no attempt to make it look a tad cleaner than it is, suddenly taints the whole situation the subjective scene was created in.
As for the issue of if it was my partner? Sure, it's not my footage to control, it's the owners footage.
Ask yourself this, if it's not ok to share material on Pornhub for reasons of morality, why is it ok to share exactly the same material on any other website when it is can be accessed by the same audience?
Because putting something that's not objectively trashy and degenerate among things that are advertised as trashy and degenerate taints the nature of it to the casual observer. Hence why it's fine to put it on Youtube, but not on Pornhub. It's not just my perspective on it, it's most people's, which is why Pornhub and sites like it have been facing great pushback via litigation, but a site like Youtube or Dailymotion does not get the same type of pushback.
Also, I had to edit my last response for clarity. Immorality was used sarcastically, it should've been stupidity.
I fully admit I am a hypocrite for the way I have treated such material in the past but I was naive and ignorant then. Now I regret that and hold my hands up to it.
You were not a hypocrite. You did what is human, and you should not regret it. If it were not for people like you we would not have the content we have as accessible as it is. The problem was simply placing it in a tainted environment.
Can you imagine the humiliation that could be caused if somebody who knows one of the girls in these videos found one of them even on a non-porn site like youtube and saw the kind comments that often get left by people who don't know how to enjoy their kinks respectfully
I understand. That's why Youtube has the option to turn off comments.
If in the second situation people decide to shame the person, then that's a personal issue in regard to the shamer. The shamers are in fact the more irritating problem., and they are a very large factor in the chaos, because they themselves cannot control themselves enough to be civil, an unfortunately all too common trait among people. Perhaps they should be punished as well. There has historically been no punishment for they who shame, perhaps instead of working on limiting ourselves so much, we should work on limiting those who are more responsible for the active chaos.
When professional models perform in fetish videos they do so willingly and knowing how the material will be used, they sign contracts and waivers agreeing to that, the girls in the renfaire videos have not been given that right.
That seems quite irrelevant to me, when someone sees something unintentionally sexual that arouses them, it doesn't matter much. It's been done, and no one was harmed.
Be wary about being overzealous about this many splendored and odd idea of respecting yourself and everyone else, or you'll find yourself respected into a box you can't get out of.
That's just how I see it.