saeria is gone

[kis123]

Very well said Kis.

Thank you.

My heart goes out to them both.

 

[venray]

This has been devastating to many of their friends to watch unfold.....

No one should be judged here....Sae may have no choice in the matter...

Let us suppose for a minute that (scum as he is) the man is the father and has been given the right of visitation....

Being on parole, he may not be allowed to leave the state for any period of time or at all....

If this is the case, and she moves her daughter, he may atually be able to go to court and legally gain custody....fucked up as that is, he may just be able to pull it off...

Now even if he cant, he may have told Sae that he will attempt to do so and she just cant take the chance that he would win and she might never see her daughter again....

In that type of situation, the choices are most difficult,,,,,add to it that he still knows how to get in and fuck with her head, and there you have the makings of what might have gone down...

I am sure that if she had the means to fight for sole custody, she would do so, but I dont think that she believes she can really ever win with this guy....

So again she gives in.....

Time will tell,,,she got herself free from him once and blossomed with that new found freedom......eventually she will realize that she needs to take action and free herself from him for good...

We must be here as friends of both Sae and Goth and support them in any way we can, and we must let her know we do not judge her for what must have been the most difficult decision of her life......

Kids.....they have a way of making us do things as parents that we never thought we could or would do.....but they are our life and always come first until they can fend for themselves.....Mom needs to be there to see to it her daughter has a chance to thrive and grow......

Goth...always there for you man...you are a very very wonderful human being and I am proud to call you friend...

Sae....the same goes for you darlin...hopefully you will see this and be able to keep in touch with your online family going forward.....

 

[Wolf]

As cynical as I am...

I'm not going to speculate on whatever the truth of the situation may be. There's just not enough information to make that judgment. What I do know is that goth loved saeria very dearly, and has been deeply hurt by what happened. And it certainly looks as though he didn't deserve how the whole thing went down. So, while we can opine all we want about her motivations or what's really going on, the only thing we know is that he's hurting.

So, goth, I'm very sorry for what happened to you, and hope you'll someday be able to move past this. You didn't deserve it.

 

[Capnmad]

I'm not going to speculate on whatever the truth of the situation may be. There's just not enough information to make that judgment. What I do know is that goth loved saeria very dearly, and has been deeply hurt by what happened. And it certainly looks as though he didn't deserve how the whole thing went down. So, while we can opine all we want about her motivations or what's really going on, the only thing we know is that he's hurting.

So, goth, I'm very sorry for what happened to you, and hope you'll someday be able to move past this. You didn't deserve it.

^This.

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

What Ray said. It's not up to any of us to judge things...esp. given that we don't know all that went into this. But, knowing both goth & sae to be amazing people, I wish them both the very best. It's up to THEM to decide what comes in the future.

 

[Gothika]

Goth... You're SO awesome! Part of what attracted her to you is just who you are... a loving, caring man.

Abusers do not change. I'm sure he's been apologetic again... just like last time, and the time before that... and way back. He'll show his true self again soon. When he does I hope she runs, not walks, as far away as she can. And from there hopefully she will come back to you where she and her daughter can be loved and life in a safe, happy environment.

It's very hard to step away from an abuser. They use all their charms to show how they won't ever do it again... but they do. I know... I lived it. It took me over a year to wake up and realize that all I wanted was peace back in my home and it wouldn't be there as long as he was in the house. When I "woke up" I moved out of my own house, that I owned, long enough for the abuser to move out. I never felt safe there though and for good reason it turned out. Once I moved away from there I finally felt safe.

I pray she won't be harmed but more than that I pray she seeks help now to help her see through his deceit and lies allowing her to break away from him and move on with living. If that brings her back to you.... that will be the icing on the cake. For right now she needs the time to learn and grow through this experience.

Time....just give her time. Be there for her in whatever way you can by supporting her decisions. As hard as it is to let go for now...it's truly the best thing for her. She needs to break out of the cucoon and spread her beautiful butterfly wings and learn to fly on her own for now.

All my best to you Goth! I'm praying for you and especially for Saeria.

very ture and i understand that and thanks i also hope she is ok and safe

Do I get this right that she only went back to him because he has a house and money???

no i guess i did not explaint that one to well and it came out rong i have a hard time explaining stuff sometimes and it comes out rong i dont know how to expleain this one sae is a good person that is all

sounded that way to me as well, how sad

not at all as i said

gothfreakhell,

I'm new here, but I've read(and been following since I joined) this whole thread and my best wishes and condolances are with you, man. And I want you to know that in my first video(which should be uploaded tonight) I'll come on camera and personally dedicate the video to you. If there's anything you'd like to see in it let me know and I'll put it in.

Best wishes my friend, may God bless you and saeria.

Justin

very ousome man thank u very much means s lot to me

I'm sorry to hear about this Goth I hope things turn out ok .

thanks dude

I'm not going to speculate on whatever the truth of the situation may be. There's just not enough information to make that judgment. What I do know is that goth loved saeria very dearly, and has been deeply hurt by what happened. And it certainly looks as though he didn't deserve how the whole thing went down. So, while we can opine all we want about her motivations or what's really going on, the only thing we know is that he's hurting.

So, goth, I'm very sorry for what happened to you, and hope you'll someday be able to move past this. You didn't deserve it.

thanks and yet i am hurting and as i said i have a hard time explaing stuff sometimes and it comes out rong saeria is a good person that is all

What Ray said. It's not up to any of us to judge things...esp. given that we don't know all that went into this. But, knowing both goth & sae to be amazing people, I wish them both the very best. It's up to THEM to decide what comes in the future.

very true that is not what this is about at all she did not do this perposly to hurt me she realy did not have a chose

 

[Lost_My_Mind]

All I can say is just wait until the dust cools down. She may have been forced to call you and say those things, even though she really didn't want to. If she wants to stay with him, she'll stay with him. If she wants to be with you, she'll find a way to bring her daughter back with her, to you.

If she does stay with him, well...these things happen. They shouldn't, but they do. I'm not sure how long you two were together, but, the longer you were together the longer you should stay off the dating feild & allow yourself time to heal.

 

[Gothika]

All I can say is just wait until the dust cools down. She may have been forced to call you and say those things, even though she really didn't want to. If she wants to stay with him, she'll stay with him. If she wants to be with you, she'll find a way to bring her daughter back with her, to you.

If she does stay with him, well...these things happen. They shouldn't, but they do. I'm not sure how long you two were together, but, the longer you were together the longer you should stay off the dating feild & allow yourself time to heal.

thanks dude and i hope she is not being forced i have a feeling that she is she has not even contacted her best friend and that is unusual for her cuz she has always stayed in contact no matter what so i am very woried and still trying to find out waht is going on with her her sister is the only one that has been on contact with her and she seriously needs to get througnt to her and get her aways from him if she truly cares for her and her safty and i hope she can get her out of there i want her to be safe and happy she is in a bad situation and is getting mind fuc&%#$ rignt now big time i hope she can be strong and use what i have tought her to get her self in a better place and we were together a year and knew each other longer and we were very very close

 

[Gothika]

saeria called me i am so happy rignt now we talked on the phone and cleared that air and worked everything out and will remain friends os ousome i am happy

 

[venray]

Good to hear Goth my friend....

 

[meangry]

I think any assumptions made by outside people are sort of unwarranted, whether they are in support or not.

Human beings rarely make decisions for the reasons people think.

 

[QBWeaver]

Oh Goth... I'm SO glad she called you! That was a huge step for her to take and possibly a risky one as well.

Keep in mind she might not want to give you a contact number for her right now due to the circumstances. It could put her a risk for you to call her so that might be why she hadn't given you her number earlier.

One Day at a time. Just take it one day at a time.

 

[Goodieluver]

Goth, I will simply say you are a better man than me in how you are taking all this

Rock on brotha

 

[kis123]

saeria called me i am so happy rignt now we talked on the phone and cleared that air and worked everything out and will remain friends os ousome i am happy

If you're happy, I'm ecstatic!

I wish only the best for your future.......

 

[Fangz]

It's great that you're so happy that she's safe and that you've worked out a friendship but don't forget that you've got to be a little selfish in this and really move on. I know at this time you're ecstatic every time she calls but IMO you've really got to start thinking about who Goth is and what Goth wants. You have to love yourself before anyone else and it's going to take time to heal from this vicious wound. The time is now to begin to separate from her a little bit and begin that very healing process. Think about it and good luck!

 

[Gothika]

saeria has told me something like that before and i know that and i will move on but still want to reamin good friends with her no matter what she is a great person and i want her to be in my life thanks dude and i realy dont want another realation ship mayby in the future who knows but not now or for a long while i am not even looking if i do happend ot meet someone some how i will just be friends and not take it anywhere thanks

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

Glad you got to talk with her at least a bit. You both remain in our hearts.

 

[Oddjob0226]

I'm still doing what I can on my end.

No one runs away - in fear of threats, via a parolee of the Texas prison system whom she could not talk badly enough about - from a good relationship without telling anyone, abandons her job, cuts off all communitcation, and takes up in another state.....all in less than a week, no plans, no thought..... and it ends up Disney happy for all involved.

This situation is weird. Weird attracts me.

 

[Fangz]

I'm still doing what I can on my end.

None runs away - in fear of threats, via a parolee of the Texas prison system whom she could not talk badly enough about - from a good relationship without telling anyone, abandons her job, cuts off all communitcation, and takes up in another state.....all in less than a week, no plans, no thought..... and it ends up Disney happy for all involved.

This situation is weird. Weird attracts me.

Huh?

 

[GirlWhoLikes2Laugh]

I know I am very late to this thread. Hope Saeria is going to be okay and Ron, I suggest you go after her and be with her. Good luck to you both.

 

[Marquis De Sade]

Huh?

Weird attracts him.

 

[Gothika]

Glad you got to talk with her at least a bit. You both remain in our hearts.

ya it was good and thanks

I know I am very late to this thread. Hope Saeria is going to be okay and Ron, I suggest you go after her and be with her. Good luck to you both.

i would love to be with her rihgt now but there is rely no way to right now we talkd on the phone and are goona remain friends

 

[Bugman]

I'm glad you had a chance to talk bro.I'll be in touch later today.

 

[Gothika]

I'm glad you had a chance to talk bro.I'll be in touch later today.

thanks