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Sakura/Miroku pic + Vladdie please grow up (neither vital enough for its own thread)

oh god...I was afraid of this...*whimper*

OK, so since its here, I guess we oughta solve it. So far, I've decifered (sp?) that Ness believes that Vlad cant take criticism, and Vlad says that the reason why he closed his thread was because ness wanted to argue. Ok, so IN 1 POST EACH, can you please, you know, Re-write whatever was on that thread? Or, we could just forget about it! 😀 Oh, that sounds even BETTER! *hint! hint!*
 
I wouldn't suggest that. I deleted the thread to avoid problems, not create more. Simply talking about it further would bring the feelings from last night back. Problems I know are made to exist when her and her posse get involved. Thats what would have happened then and it's what would happen now, if allowed.

It is a tried and tested FACT that the actual bickering doesn't start until she and her gang get involved and then everyone wants in on it, people I don't even know or have spoken to. Everyone before this happens is content to either geniunely talk to me in a civil manner, or they are good at pretending. Either way, its fine until she interjects.

She should just accept things, whether she agrees with them or not, and not fall back on the same "Vlad's ego is too big, Vlad thinks he's better, blah blah blah" routine. She uses the same excuses every time and trivilizes the matter by equating everything I say with my ego, when thats not necessarily whats going on. She and alot of people think they have me figured out, but they don't.

These issues would resolve themselves just fine if she wasn't so persistant or others weren't. No one has to listen to me afterall. You CAN, in fact, ignore me. The fact some people choose not to, and they let their anger and bitterness get the better of them is not my fault.

They obviously feel as strongly as I do, but at least I can say I don't create threads to spite other people, or to keep talking when its not a good idea, or whatever the agenda is.
 
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I cant really say anything to that, but I feel like I must appologize: I was kind of the one who pulled this out of Ness, because I thought she was talking about someone else, like a new member with a large ego, and I was just interested in seeing what got her mad. So, um, sorry. TO ALL OF YOU! :happy:
 
What are you apologizing for? You've done nothing wrong. And you didn't do anything wrong in my actual thread. Neither did bigred or kimiko.

I can say with 100% assurance that the conversation would not have taken the turn it did if she didn't interject that way. She had many options at her disposal and she did not take any of them.

She could have came strictly for the art, like I suspect alot of people do. She could have decided to post on it or not.

Or, like bigred and kimiko, she could have TRIED to actually converse with me, not explode like she did. I understand how some people feel about me, and I have feelings for them too, but I don't explode on people. I never do. And I'm damn proud of that.

You'd have to really push me for me to, and that why I deleted the thread. Because I know without a shadow of a doubt that people were going to mock me and provoke me under the pretext that they have a right to say it, when everyone knows damn well they wouldn't have in any other circumstance or they wouldn't have if not for her involvement.

When you're dealing with me, you're dealing with me and nobody else. I don't have backup, support, or some trial case going on. I represent myself, and nobody else. Thats the way it should be with everyone.

When you're dealing with Ness, unfortunately, and she's trying to prove a point, you're dealing with several people, a small lynch mob if you will. Angry people who only get brave enough to confront me in numbers. Otherwise they leave me alone. They see these infrequent opportunities as a chance to "stick it to me" when that may have the opposite effect and may only make me more resolved to stand my ground.

That changes things drastically, as it forces me to be 3 times as defensive, and them 3 times as argumentive.

It was in everyone's best interests to have done what I did at the TIME I did when the thread only had a shelf life of several hours and only 3 people had posted by that time. You don't wait for something bad to happen, especially when you know to expect it from certain people in certain situations.
 
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Also, who is actually offended by the fact I deleted it? It's my thread, its not like it was somebody else's or I was denying a mess of folks from speaking. The only one it would/could be is Ness. Face it, it pissed you off that I cut you off before you could continue. Thats why you made this thread about me, isn't it? Yeah, thats right. Of course it is. You made your own thread using a picture as a pretext for it knowing there isn't a damn thing I can do about it.

What you couldn't have there you want here. You want that last word. Thats very petty. And perhaps for the first time, everyone can see your pettiness. Mixing me in with your art. Hell, you even put my name in the title, making me just as important as your art.

If, as a moderator from a moderator's perspective, you couldn't see why I deleted the thread (especially now in retrospect), then you surely were blinded by your anger and didn't allow better judgement to control you when you thought about me and this thread of yours.

You would have left me and that situation out of it. That would have been the professional thing to do. Now you've got this situation and you've got no one to blame for it but yourself. I may be bull-headed sometimes, but I never take it too far and I know when enough is enough.

I would suggest to you that perhaps you delete all these posts, rename the thread, and just make it about your inuyasha picture, the way I was smart enough to start my thread over in my forum and pretend like the event never happened.

Maybe thats not justice to you, but its, at best, a solution.
 
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IT IS EXCELLENT THERAPY
yeehaw
 

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sigh::starts to dig his worldwar one era trench and gets his machine gun ready:: damn flame wars!
 
Its important to note that there is no problem here, yet. Before we call this a flame war, I think it would be even better to not call attention to it. It may be the elephant in the room, but, you know...
 
Hey, I'm allowed the occasional rant. Blame the retarded chimpanzee XD XD

you're dealing with several people, a small lynch mob if you will. Angry people who only get brave enough to confront me in numbers. Otherwise they leave me alone.
I wont bother to say much more cause this pretty much proves my point for me. Nobody wants to say anything to or about you cause of the storm or crap you spew back at them. If someone finally says what's on their mind it's only natural for a few people to jump in and agree cause they're finally not the only one braving the Vladdie-mega-post-storm.
I'm not going to split this thread because, as I said, I'm allowed my rant. I didnt come here for the last word, I came here to get A word. I know damn well you'll keep posting til I get bored and you'll figure a way to get the actual "last" word. You always do. Do I care? Does it make you right? Nope. I had something to say and, since you denied me the opportunity to say it in context of the previous discussion I said it anyway.
Oh noes!
I don't care about having an extended discussion about it. If you're so keen to forget about it, as indicated by the deletion of your own thread, then don't worry about it. I felt my right to get my thoughts across was violated so I moved to another venue where I can't be deleted. Everything I wanted to say I said in my first post. If it's sooo petty to want the last word (which I wasnt going for, as I said) then prove how non-petty you are and don't post a reply. Even though I didn't say anything new here that I havent already said (and that you havent already replied to like 3 times even though I didnt say anything in between) you'll still feel the need to get yourself in there. I'd bet every penny I have that you can't refrain from replying.

And my GOD, Oriy! WHY??
 
You didn't quote that part entirely, which is obviously a subtle attempt to debase the fact that it is because of YOU that people get balsy and say something. They feel that if a moderator puts her foot down and rants that it gives them all the more reason to as well. Are you denying that every past circumstance is not a result of your having said something and then your close friends coming to your aid?

These people that complain are not random people for the most part. They are the same folks with the same issue and same problem. These are not new people coming forward and backing you up. These have not been instances where it was me against the community. It was me against you and your posse.

The fact is, you have a posse whether you want to admit it or not. This posse will back you up whether you are right or wrong. And you have been wrong before. Don't let this flatter you, because its not a compliment.

If people see a moderator of all people lose it and break, they excuse themselves from civility. And, because they are your friends, you have no way of proving to me or anyone else that you guys don't take advantage of the fact that you can work together pretty well and do every time.

Its not like these are random occurances, though they are isolated incidents. You and yours intentionally come together to vent. But they'll only do it if you're there.

Its actually something quite different if new people came to me to express the same thing. But because they are too shy, afraid, respect me, you, and themselves too much to get involved, etc, etc, they don't. And its better than way for everyone because the less people involved the sooner these things are stopped.

You say you felt your right to get your thought across was violated. How was it when you said pretty much everything you could in one post? It was the FLAME, the ARGUMENT, that I stopped. Not your freedom of speech or your rights, or the rights of anyone else. I allow them to say what they want to, don't I? Yes, I do. But it's much better to stop these events from happening when you know they will happen. I don't see the harm or foul in this.

It is documented and a fact that it is YOU who start these things. There is no retarded chimp to blame, just your anger and your inability to control it at the right time.

You make it seem like I'm the one who yells at people and starts things. I just react. If they can't handle it, is that really my fault? No, I don't think it is. Because then you'd be saying I have no right to defend myself for them having a problem and wanting to yell at me.

I think that while we've had a few of these episodes, one is one too many. When you calm down and you come to your senses you'll realize that what I did was right.
 
posting in a legendary thread
 

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Cripes, Oriya is d*mn right!

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* Scampers off to get a few oldie but goldies of his own *

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There!
Exploiting the exposure!
 

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Whos the character in the first one? I think I recognise her, but dont know where from. Nice and gothy though 😀 .
And that last one is jus plain scary!
 
i drew what i posted and it is of rydia from final fantasy 4

because the world needs more rydia hair
 
Ah, yeah, I knew I would get ya hooked, Kim.
She's Kylie from Extreme Ghostbusters, the goth girl with psi powers.

The last one happens to be the evil yet sexy twin to Nessonite: Negativeness - Neganess for shortness.

😀

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Those pics inbetween should be old to you, so no despriction... discription... description is offered, granted nor implied.

Thingamabob, hitherto, therefore.
 
Yah, I recognise the halfling one, bears a resemblance to Lidda I think. 🙂 . And the Corpse bride one I think I've mentioned in our previous discussions. Maybe...
 
Hey K, Ive never seen the third one there...kickass!

rofl...I knew he'd reply. Maybe I should reply myself and see how many mega-posts I can get him to write. XD Seems sorta pointless to write something so long when, at best, it'll only be skimmed over by a few people.

Now wait, K...looking at those again...maybe I havent seen the first one either...
 
Since others are taking the liberty of sharing, I might as well share too. This one is my most recent one of Azalyn (my original character), in a more realistic style. I've already recieved requests for tickling, but rather than honor them that way, there may be scenes in the manga where she is tickled. I quite like the idea of that. :happy:
 

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