Tickling Videos Ruining Fetish

[Oddjob0226]

Sorry to obsess, but here's my above post without the typos..... guess I'm just sick that way....... har!

Wow- I gotta credit the guy for being brave and stepping out there. And being honest. If I can summon up the guts, here's my turn.....

"Tickle torture" scenarious were my first fantasies as well,-we're talking as a young kid in the single digit years here - and still my best ones. I like and enjoy plaful tickling, and would actually like to see more affection ( kissing and sweet talk) in some of the videos out there.....

But

I am a human and as such I am not all good. There is that part of me, the glancing-at-a car-wreck side that does want to witness, even perform, nonconscentual tickling. Partly out of sadism, partly out of curiosity- what does it look like? How far is too far? And yes, I might whisper it secretly, shhhh... don't tell anyone- I might even be willing to undergo such treatment with someone I know. I don't mean kidnapping by strangers or any such thing, but I've always been curious about myself in 2 areas - 1. If I was being tickled for information, and I don't mean like some kind of fun, giggly thing like saying a secret word, but if I had something really useful to someone but didn't want to divulge it, under tickling- would I? How long would I last? What would it be like? Worse (for me), what if I was being tickled for the sheer sadistic joy of the tickler, and have nothing to offer for respite? Again, what would that be like? How far would be too far? How would it end? I brought this up once with a woman from San Antonio I was speaking with over the phone - if she was really being tickled- for real tickle torture - would she "break" ? And she answered yes. But would she be willing to tickle someone for hours, even days, if they consented to such treatment and gave up the free will to stop the tickling? In other words, conscented to non-conscentual tickling? She answered yes to that, too. She even went on saying that when you hear about criminals doing terrible things to their victims, why did they never tickle them, since it was so unberable? A few days later, we even tried out a wonderful tickle torture exercise (I'll tell you about it later, it's kind of involved). I really don't think we two are alone out there.

As far as being "sick" goes, is that word being used in a sarcastic sense, or is it used in a true patholigical sense that there is something wrong (and, potentially could be fixed?)

Now, WOULD I ever do such a thing to someone? Would I kidnap someone off the street and tickle them? NO! But I have to answer honestly - if I were to see a true toture tickling video tape, I don't know if I'd contact authrities or not. I like to think I would. However - I would indeed WATCH the tape in shocked fascination. I'm not proud of this - in fact, I don't know if that statement about watching the tape is even 100% true. But I am being honest, and the urge/curiosity is there. Would I ever tickle someone cruelly for revenge or for information? Well, we're all supposed to say no.... but, if my friends or family were threatened and I knew it would work.... who knows what I'd do. I really do think that I could do it to, say, a Hamas or Islamic Jihad cuite, to be honest, current things as they are. I wouldn't go beyond getting the info needed, & I'd try darn hard not to get caught. Also, I'd probably have terrible guilt feelings later, but I can't say I absoultely wouldn't do it, and enjoy it if only for the moment.

So there you go. In my life I have room for "both" kids of tickling. And, at least, when it comes to REAL tickle torture, I am at least willing to explore both the lerr and lee side, not just the ler, so there is some balance there. But I'm still more of a ler, and, while Dr. Jekyl is firmly in charge, it's not like he's unaware of Mr. Hyde. And Mr. Hyde isn't just a figment of his imagination - he's real.

 

[Deleted member 2452]

oddjob you crack me up!

just hit the edit button on the bottom of your post. it will let you and only you correct your mistakes.
dirk i feel better since we've had our exchange, i hope you do too.
i think you may enjoy the tickle video from paradise vision named "the boogyman". it had a house breaker tying, and tickling a woman against her will, and for tickle torture only, not as a burgler.
my only problem was that it turned out to be a female who was the boogyman. one of their better tapes though.
steve

 

[Oddjob0226]

Thanks Areenactor!

I'll try the editing thing on this post. I will purposely mix up the word "ticklish". Next on my list... figuring how to use the "quote" button!


A video with only one major plot twist - and you gave away the plot twist? Did you tell people the secret of The Crying Game? (If I remember, the big controversy was Stephen Rea's character being Luke Skywalker's father, or somesuch thing....it's been awhile.)



Cool! It worked!

 

[Dirkman]

Re: oddjob you crack me up!

dirk i feel better since we've had our exchange, i hope you do too.

Absolutely. I think that in my initial few posts, I unintentionally came on with a little too much narrow mindedness, but I hope as this thread continues to expand with the help of some great ideas and posts, that people can get the main idea of what I was trying to say.

I'll check out that Boogyman video. I thought the Paradise NonConsent Vid 1 was a great vid by the way, my problem with the vid lies in my personal taste in females. I thought the girl looked, ahh, not like the kind of girl I'm into. Wish there were more vids like that with some slightly differing plots and some better looking girls. I have heard mixed reviews on their new nonconsent vid, maybe I'll check it out. I hate to get into names but with all the great looking girls TC vids gets, I'd love for them to do more ploted fantasy vids, such as Of Sweet Suffering which I dug.

 

[redway10]

I agree with Dirkman...

I agree with Dirkman, although my objections are slightly different:

In particular, with foot tickling, I believe that the restraints in tickling videos are fairly light. If I tickle someone in real life who is ticklish, they go berserk, kicking and thrashing until I stop. It seems to me that if the ticklee in the typical foot restraints in tickling videos (even stocks) were really being tickled, their kicking alone would be tremendous and cause the weak (or light) restraints to go all over the place.

For this reason, I only buy tickling videos with strong foot/leg restraints (and even toe restraints), because it is the only way I can believe that the tickling is real, even if it is not, because no matter how strong the tickling, the ticklee cannot kick or pull away. Unfortunately, these videos are damn hard to find.

Personally, I think the best videos are those where the ticklees can move their upper bodies to some degree, but cannot move their legs or feet at all. That way, their feet can be easily tickled (without having to hold them in a wrestling maneuver), but they can thrash somewhat to make the tickling seem real (especially if it is real).

I know these are my personal preferences, but I think this is somewhat of what Dirkman was talking about. However, I sometimes find Tickle Vids with great bondage, and I keep looking...

 

[Maria_Rose]

When I first saw Dirks post I was distressed to the point of tears (not sure why, must be a flashback thing). But when I actually thought about it, and read his later posts, I have to agree that I do that myself to some degree. Not just with tickling either...actually I am probably worse than the rest of you lol because I do it with toxicology too. But because I had a bad experience(s) with tickling, I dont think I could personally ever enjoy watching an innocent person in TRUE pain from it. Acting is different, although I probably would avoid those vids myself. Hehehe...realize though that I did say "innocent" person. If it was someone who I thought was deserving or capable of handling the tickling, and being defiant, and mentally intact afterwards, might be very interesting (again, we're talking a storyline here, not reality). I would get no pleasure from watching a weak, abused, or fearful person being tickled, but that rebellious, strong-willed spy can be on her knees for me anytime wohoooooooooo lol. Long live the predator instinct (just a term I use for my own dark little mind, not meant to apply to, or offend anyone). Took guts to say it like it is Dirk, even if you over-generalized at first.

 

[jsg]

My thoughts on this subject...

I, like Dirkman, am more attracted to the non-consentual side of tickling. Most of my fantasies are centered around this type of scenario. There is one thing, however, that I don't think the best acting in the world could overcome. That is the fact that I don't believe a person involved in a real kidnapping scenario or spy interrogation could overcome their fear of their captor(s) enough to even BE ticklish. I mean, I can remember witnesssing experiences in my childhood and teen years where people were held down and tickled against their will. But even then they at least knew beforehand that they weren't in any real danger, and that knowledge allowed their ticklishness to overcome their unwillingness to be tickled. It's my awareness (or suspicion) of that fact that would cause any such scenario in a tickling video to lend it an air of "fakeness", in spite of good acting. I believe there needs to be some consentuality involved for the victim to be able to relax enough to be sensitive to tickling without being in fear for their life.

I do completely understand Dirkman's original point. I've never watched a tickling video in it's full length, but I have viewed a lot of clips. Most of them were very disappointing to me. His views and the others about the lack of reality involving the restraints has almost swayed me in the direction of just not buying any tickling videos, although I don't think anything could ever "ruin my fetish". Luckliy for me, my wife indulges me in my tickling "fetish" (no comment on whether or not it is such, as I don't really care), to the point where she asks me to tie & tickle her. But if I were to go out and kidnap some woman and bring her home and tie her to the bed, I believe she would be way too concerned for her own safety to be even remotely ticklish. Sure her feet might be a little ticklish, but is someone who fears for their life going to lay there and laugh? I don't think so. There needs to be some intimacy or familiarity or trust between the tickler and the victim for the victim to able to totally let go and lose their self-control. I just don't believe the reality of such even exists, much less that it could ever be duplicated - especially in a video. I could be wrong, I don't know. At the same time, I'm not going to kidnap anyone to test my theory. My imagination has served me very well these last thirty years and will continue to do so. That, plus the fact that I've enacted many bondage/tickling fantasies of the consentual type is sufficient for me. Even in my consentual experiences there have been some small elements of non-consentuality involved, enough so that I consider my fantasies to have been fulfilled.