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Why are Men Sexually Protective of their Young Daughters?

tyler_d

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I've found this to almost always be the case. Was curious if anyone knew the biological reason why?
 
I think this is what you septics call a "No Brainer".....its because the Fathers know what men are like.
 
Think about it.All animals protect their young from harm.And being men,the fathers know what the young men who are dating their daughters want.Pretty simple really,but i cant give a scientific reason for it.Its part of our DNA perhaps.
 
Sorry Bug. It's pretty rare for the male of the species to protect the offspring from anything, and when he does, he's protecting them from being eaten, not from sexual behavior. In fact, reproduction is a biological imperative so I can't imagine a male parent interfering at all unless he wanted to mate his daughter himself.

I really can't fathom why human males do most of the things they do, let alone why fathers get so weird about their daughters' sexuality. Unless it's jealousy on a very primal level.
 
lk70 said:
Sorry Bug. It's pretty rare for the male of the species to protect the offspring from anything, and when he does, he's protecting them from being eaten, not from sexual behavior. In fact, reproduction is a biological imperative so I can't imagine a male parent interfering at all unless he wanted to mate his daughter himself.

I really can't fathom why human males do most of the things they do, let alone why fathers get so weird about their daughters' sexuality. Unless it's jealousy on a very primal level.

You are correct there,but i didnt say males,just animals in general.The point was,men know what men want from their daughters,and at what age are we talking about?Some guys go overboard of course,but if i had say a 15 or 16 year old daughter i would be very protective also i imagine.I would also point out that animals,aside from people,have no choice as far as engaging in sexual activity goes.I really don't think men who are protective of their daughters wish to mate with them,unless they are very sick people.
 
There are some men who know just how they treated women when they were dating and a daughter is a man's worst nightmare, IMO. I see how my ex treats his daughter like a princess who is too good for any man and he doesn't want her to date or any guy around her. She's 17 for crying out loud and she's beautiful--she's gonna attract guys! Her best friend is a guy (aka-my other son) and her dad hates him.

I think about all the father's daughters he screwed over (including me) and I understand why he's so overprotective......oh yeah. :shock:
 
In my experience, some fathers are protective and some fathers aren't. It's more of a stereotype than reality. And I think it goes to one's personality; there are those that are more trusting (including trusting in their daughter's judgment) and those that are not, and perhaps aren't particularly trustworthy themselves. If there is any truth in the notion, than I believe it would be more social (and cultural) than anything biological.
 
I was talking to a friend of mine with a 13 year old son and he dotes over this kid like there is no tomorrow. he happened to mention to me that he is really glad he did not have a daughter as he would be superprotective of her more so than his son. I just find it odd how so many of us males are so hypocritical and there is a double standard in how we act around females in our needs and wants but when it comes to our sisters or mothers or daughters we want to remove them from the real world and put them on a pedastool. Yet we wink and look the other way if a son shows a lack of descretion or respect for those same little girls their own fathers may want to protect.
 
lk70 said:
Sorry Bug. It's pretty rare for the male of the species to protect the offspring from anything, and when he does, he's protecting them from being eaten, not from sexual behavior. In fact, reproduction is a biological imperative so I can't imagine a male parent interfering at all unless he wanted to mate his daughter himself.

I really can't fathom why human males do most of the things they do, let alone why fathers get so weird about their daughters' sexuality. Unless it's jealousy on a very primal level.

missy you are so wrong, and out of line!
i watch out for my daughters because i know what a devious little bastard i was! no jealousy here! i'm disgusted and insulted at your acusations! :idontwann :sowrong: :Grrr:
 
Yeah. Definitely no primal emotion or ego-centric behavior in that guy. Gotta love the angry smilies; really, I'm always a sucker for melodramatic emo effect.

It's called territoriality. Your daughter, is yours, not somebody else's. It's more obvious in some men, than in others... much more obvious... but, while a father certainly does care about his daughter, this goes beyond that. It is a primal reaction to the intrusion of another male. There are fathers who won't let their daughters date at all; how is this helpful in any way? Your daughter's date is not likely to be a rapist, a predator, or a Jeffrey Dahmer; they are most likely a nervous young guy who, at worst, is hoping to go a little further with her than she might be ready for.

Guess what? If she's wanting to date, she can stand up for herself. If you've raised her well, she'll make good decisions. You can't learn how to walk if you're never allowed to learn how to crawl. 99% of guys will NOT refuse to take no for an answer; at the worst, they'll be a jerk about it, and she'll come home in tears... then get over it. Most of the reason that bad decisions are made by girls who are just starting to date is that they were never taught right-from-wrong with regards to the sex scene. They've never had "the talk" with their parents. Their fathers don't, on a primal level, want them to have another man in their life; isn't it a stereotyped part of every father-daughter movie scene? "What, Dad, you want me to stay single forever?" "Well..." This with women in their 20's or 30's.

I lost a potential girlfriend once because, while in college, I worked in a factory. Her father didn't want her dating a "bum factory worker" (we were both 18; she was a HS senior, I was a college freshman). Yeah... I'm in college, you idiot. I'm furthering my education, plus... I'm actually working, for one, and I'm making double what most of the other working students are making, for another. I had no plans to stay in a factory for the rest of my life... although, if I had? I'd have been making decent money, plus had a truly awe-inspiring retirement package, lol. It was nothing to do with my being a "bum." He said the same thing about her previous attempt at finding a guy ("unemployed high-school bum") and her subsequent effort, before I lost touch with her ("goddamn hippie.") That one had shoulder-length hair. He was also, I kid you not, interning at a conservative-minded law firm.

Love and concern for one's offspring in a social sense are modern concepts. Social concern, in particular, is a largely 20th century concept, in this sense. For millions upon millions of years, all there was was territoriality. Which one do you think is more hard-wired into a man's head?
 
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Dads who are over-protective of their daughters annoys the shit out of me, regardless of why.

And I agree that it is some kind of "jealousy on a very primal level" and/or "territoriality" and/or ownership thing. Either way I always find it some what creepy.
 
P[a]pi said:
Dads who are over-protective of their daughters annoys the shit out of me, regardless of why.

And I agree that it is some kind of "jealousy on a very primal level" and/or "territoriality" and/or ownership thing. Either way I always find it some what creepy.

Have a daughter and give me a shout when she turns 16; my bet is that you won't feel the same way then.
 
maniactickler said:
Its because they know all men are horn dogs. :woot:


YOU are the guy my dad warned me about. 😎

I think most of you guys have it on point: Dads know how they were at that age. I grew up with an overprotective dad, I'm 29 and he's STILL doesn't like anyone I date. It's frustrating as hell. But to hear my mother tell it, he was a ladies man, and rarely was seen with the same woman until my mother caught him.

I'm fully agree about the territorial thing, tho. Most dads are trying to protect their daughters, and I'm sure they hate to see us get hurt by "some guy".

--T
 
Tamia78 said:
Most dads are trying to protect their daughters, and I'm sure they hate to see us get hurt by "some guy".

--T

Yeah, especially since many of them were the "some guy" that did the hurting back in the day. Like I said before, daughter's are a father's best revenge!

Watching it take place before my eyes is better than watching reality tv!
 
P[a]pi said:
Dads who are over-protective of their daughters annoys the shit out of me, regardless of why.

And I agree that it is some kind of "jealousy on a very primal level" and/or "territoriality" and/or ownership thing. Either way I always find it some what creepy.

then i highly recomend you stay the fuck away from my daughters, and then you and the other asshole azreal won't have to put up with over propective father types like me!
well said kiss..
steve
 
areenactor said:
then i highly recomend you stay the fuck away from my daughters, and then you and the other asshole azreal won't have to put up with over propective father types like me!
well said kiss..
steve

Doesn't it strike you interesting that all the ones who have issues with overprotective fathers have yet to be fathers themselves? Just like mothers who watch the dating behaviors of their sons getting accused of being overbearing and mollycoddling (that's if they are any kind of mother at all). They watch out for the golddiggers, skanks, and tramps who try to trap guys into marriage and whatever else.

In the end, we iknow that our children will decide for themselves even if they make bad decisions. That doesn't mean we aren't watching and protecting whenever we can.
 
kis123 said:
Yeah, especially since many of them were the "some guy" that did the hurting back in the day. Like I said before, daughter's are a father's best revenge!

Watching it take place before my eyes is better than watching reality tv!

I was never that "some guy", but as a hispanic male, I was raised with the mindset that a man should learn to deserve a woman by earning the respect of its family before intruding upon her.

This woman these young guys try to score with, they bare my name. They are in my family, and I don't know you, and most likely neither does she. If you are successful in the most purest of ways, then a relationship might blossom to marriage, and in that she then takes your name, and becomes a part of YOUR family as well.

It is a part of my upbringing to respect the households of which I am a part of, and the father.... the father is the first man in her life to sacrifice sweat, blood and tears for this woman. I, a man that may deflower this girl, that may have a child with her, that may take her into MY home and take care of her, will have to take the mantle of provider.

And in that I am only the second man to take the role, for nothing in return... for absolutely nothing this man spent the life of this girl feeding her, clothing her, and help her find a place in this world. A father is protective, because all too often men are raised in a world where women are viewed as THEIR possessions for the taking.

When they are wrong. The woman is an individual, but she is a member of a family. The father in our world is the guardian to that, and if you cannot respect the man who was taking care of the woman you loved since she was an infant, than how in the hell can you expect anyone to respect you for the role of doing the same.

Edit: I'd like to point out as well that I am married, and have yet to have children. I don't need to have a child to know what should be common sense for a man. Your situation Azrael, was unfortunate, but if you don't have the wisdom to understand WHY he did what he did, and don't have the common sense to learn from it and apply it differently than him in the future then I fear for your kids. He was wrong, this much is certain, for judging you. However he was not wrong for protecting his daughter. If you feel he erred so much, in his ways... then ensure your children are blessed to be in the care in your wisdom.

I don't plan on becoming my father, but I damn sure respect him, and all those that bare the title.
 
Ace Riley said:
I was never that "some guy", but as a hispanic male, I was raised with the mindset that a man should learn to deserve a woman by earning the respect of its family before intruding upon her.

This woman these young guys try to score with, they bare my name. They are in my family, and I don't know you, and most likely neither does she. If you are successful in the most purest of ways, then a relationship might blossom to marriage, and in that she then takes your name, and becomes a part of YOUR family as well.

It is a part of my upbringing to respect the households of which I am a part of, and the father.... the father is the first man in her life to sacrifice sweat, blood and tears for this woman. I, a man that may deflower this girl, that may have a child with her, that may take her into MY home and take care of her, will have to take the mantle of provider.

And in that I am only the second man to take the role, for nothing in return... for absolutely nothing this man spent the life of this girl feeding her, clothing her, and help her find a place in this world. A father is protective, because all too often men are raised in a world where women are viewed as THEIR possessions for the taking.

When they are wrong. The woman is an individual, but she is a member of a family. The father in our world is the guardian to that, and if you cannot respect the man who was taking care of the woman you loved since she was an infant, than how in the hell can you expect anyone to respect you for the role of doing the same.


Too bad more teen and young men don't share your viewpoint. At that age it's usually about getting into a young girls' pants. Sorry folks, I was a teenager before and have raised two of them. The game's still the same only the players have changed.

I didn't have the traditional father overprotectiveness; I watch the dynamic between my ex and my daughter and have learned more from that relationship than I ever did with my own.

But most of the men I know don't even want daughters so they don't get the karma payback from their youthful misdeeds with the girls, so my theory still holds true in that respect. Especially when it comes to my ex, it's still better than reality tv to watch!
 
kis123 said:
Have a daughter and give me a shout when she turns 16; my bet is that you won't feel the same way then.

I disagree, but I might not ever have a daughter, so I might not be able to prove you wrong haha.

areenactor said:
then i highly recomend you stay the fuck away from my daughters, and then you and the other asshole azreal won't have to put up with over propective father types like me!
well said kiss..
steve

I said "over-protective". I understand that fathers should protect their daughters. I just think a lot of them way over do it. They are so protective that they block all males from their daughter good and bad, like in Azreal's example. I didn't say you or kis123 do this. And kis123 I checked your profile, so I'm guessing you are a mom haha.

And I have a girlfriend, Meka, who I've been with for almost 2 years and I plan on marrying her so I'll be staying away from your daughters haha.
 
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P[a]pi said:
I disagree, but I might not ever have a daughter, so I might not be able to prove you wrong haha.



I said "over-protective". I understand that fathers should protect their daughters. I just think a lot of them way over do it. They are so protective that they block all males from their daughter good and bad, like in Azreal's example. I didn't say you or kis123 do this. And kis123 I checked your profile, so I'm guessing you are a mom haha.

And I have a girlfriend, Meka, who I've been with for almost 2 years and I plan on marrying her so I'll be staying away from your daughters haha.

Yes I am a mother with a 17 year old college sophomore; I nor her father let her near any guys right now because she's an athlete and has better things to do than let some guy get her sidetracked and ruin her life. I might not agree with Azreal's story but as a parent we want what's best for our kids and their raging hormones don't always make room for common sense.

I wish my father thought enough of me to watch over me; maybe I wouldn't have lost 20 years of my life in bad decision making (usually over some man who didn't deserve five minutes of my time).

One day you may become a parent and you just might have a daughter who looks just like your beautiful Meeka; would you just want any old jerk around the daughter you raised? I find that hard to believe if you say anything but an emphatic "no!"

It's a father's job to give his daughter's potential mate hell; if he doesn't, it means he doesn't care about his daughter's future. If that grates against you guys, it should because it'll teach you how to treat a woman with respect or deal with some serious consequences. I know some fathers who aren't past going to jail if someone hurts his daughter. It's not about property or territory, it's about an investment of love.
 
kis123 said:
It's a father's job to give his daughter's potential mate hell; if he doesn't, it means he doesn't care about his daughter's future.
i think it also means he's risking the contamination of his gene pool with a potentially irresponsible mate who might make the rearing of the offspring more difficult which in turn could affect the further passing of the father's genes. From a strictly biological standpoint, that's how I see it but of course there's many reasons beyond just that to protect the daughter.

The rest are conditioned or psychological, but I think the concern about his gene pool is almost instinctive in a way, which may say a lot about the subconscious commonality that father's seem overprotective for her sexual well being. much moreso than a son, or a neice, or a neighbor's kid. young daughters seem to get this special attention because they are most vulnerable to the contamination of his gene pool thru her potentially youthful mistakes.
 
tyler_d said:
i think it also means he's risking the contamination of his gene pool with a potentially irresponsible mate who might make the rearing of the offspring more difficult which in turn could affect the further passing of the father's genes. From a strictly biological standpoint, that's how I see it but of course there's many reasons beyond just that to protect the daughter.

The rest are conditioned or psychological, but I think the concern about his gene pool is almost instinctive in a way, which may say a lot about the subconscious commonality that father's seem overprotective for her sexual well being. much moreso than a son, or a neice, or a neighbor's kid. young daughters seem to get this special attention because they are most vulnerable to the contamination of his gene pool thru her potentially youthful mistakes.

I have brothers; they have contaminated the gene pool more than any of my sisters or myself had! Therein lies the old double standard; the sons do as they please and the daughters.........well we know the rest.
 
kis123 said:
I have brothers; they have contaminated the gene pool more than any of my sisters or myself had! Therein lies the old double standard; the sons do as they please and the daughters.........well we know the rest.
biologically, since males can opt to take less responsibility, (ie leave as if they never even had the offspring in the first place) the consequence of their contaminations thru bad choices can be far less apparent to the lineage stakeholders.

in life (or in nature) the daughter however, cannot choose a same abandonment outcome as easily as the males (much due to environmental circumstances like attachment, for one) and subsequently, any mistakes in her choice for the gene pool become much more apparent as real offspring that have to be acknowledged and caretook by the family.

a man's mistaken offspring can so much more easily be shoved off as if it never happened (if he chooses). this is realized on such a deep level, that I think it lends itself to internally justifying that double standard you speak of (from the sense of biological consequence to the family gene pool).
 
areenactor said:
then i highly recomend you stay the fuck away from my daughters, and then you and the other asshole azreal won't have to put up with over propective father types like me!
well said kiss..
steve

.. real men won't want to date daughters that have pyscho parents like your daughters have...so you don't have anything to worry about pops.

:jester:
 
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