Why do folks hate rap music so much?

[primetime]

I decided to create this thread so all the rap haters can sound off about why they hate rap music. I am creating this thread because they are totally disrespecting another thread dedicated to the Notorious B.I.G.. That thread was for people to post about their memories of the man and what do we see? People bashing the man and the music. No respect at all. I bet most of them never even listened to his music, but because he is a "rap artist", they feel it inside themselves to criticize anything related to rap music. I rather have you spew your venom here than the other thread.

So haters, here's your chance. Feel free to sound off why you hate rap music without disrespecting another thread. Keep in mind that your distaste in this particular genre of music merely insults an entire culture. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you are right.

I can understand the dislike for "gangsta rap", but not all rap is "terrible". Will Smith was a rap artist and his stuff is completely clean. But, I guess Will Smith is not an artist either and he has no talent. Whatever....Anyone who hates rap, tell me the truth, how often do you actually LISTEN to the genre?

Have fun....pour your closed minded hearts out....

 

[Goodieluver]

I see no talent or skill in people who do not create music. They take a beat box or synthesizer, make some catchy beat, tune or simply take an already established tune, add speed or a diff beat to it, and consider that an accomplishment. No thankyou, you can respect someone who learns to play guitar and writes a song. People now think if they have acid pro, or any computer software, they can make a song. Also, nearly every rap song is identical, its not showing any vocal talent at all, just someone talking or rhyming, and ive already stated the actual music aspects of it. But as for the music, its 95% overly distorted bass and pretty much, its the same bass for every sound with no uniqueness

That enough closed mindedness for ya?

and btw, your statement which draws an inference to pretty much "if you hate rap, you are hating black people" well, even to this day, people feel if you listen to heavy metal you are probably an anti social satanist and prob murder people
SEE: West memphis three

 

[Bugman]

I dont hate rap music,its just not anything i am intrested in.The so called gangester rap,which seems to celebrate very vulgar laungage,violence against people etc i see no value in.I have often pulled up next to someones car playing some types of rap music and it seems to be nothing but an endless stream of f**k this,f**k that,lets sell some drugs,lets do a drive by shooting,lets pimp some bitches etc.I dont care what color the person is,thats just wrong imo.

No,i cant tell you who the people putting out this kind of *music* are,because i dont want to listen long enough to find out.Again i'm not saying all rap is bad,i'm sure many of them are very talented.My parents though the Rolling Stones,the Beatles and the Doors etc were the end of the world also,its a generational diffrence as much as anything.And some of their music glorfied drug use and rebellion against society.But we managed to survive and turn out ok for the most part,and i'm sure the same thing will happen to most people who like rap.

 

[Ticklerguy4u]

This is a good idea. It gives some people time to express the negative reactions they have for hip-hop music. I dislike when people get on a thread just to put it down when they have no reason to speak.

It like purposely going up to people in a conversation about baseball and puts it down. It shows a lack of respect or maturity. I think golf is a ridiculous waste of time but I wouldn't speak negative about it if a thread came out about it and/or its players.

So by all means, so ladies and gentlemen get it out of your system so the next thread about rap could be left to the people that enjoy it and make no appologies for it.

 

[Jerry67911]

rap is just missing the "c"

 

[Goodieluver]

rap is just missing the "c"

heh not really a fan of country but

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[primetime]

But goodie, rap artists are not the only ones who are using past artists' ideas. after all, Little Richard inspired Elvis. Where do you think Elvis got his ideas from?

Despite your beliefs, you DO need vocal talent to become a successful rap artist. Guys like 2pac, Snoop, Ice Cube and even Eminem have distinct voices and rap styles which is why they are successful. Not everyone who raps is good at it.

I would like to see a "rap hater" go out to the urban areas where rap music is constantly being played and tell those young kids that they have no real talent if they rap and that the artists they listen to are no good and talentless. That will go over real well.....

I do find it hard to understand why people would hate something and think they know so much about the "talent level" of rap artists if they never actually listened to the artists. Guys like 2pac and Ice Cube actually rap about the ills of society and have made songs that are positive. But, rap haters wouldn't know that because they do not listen to their songs.

Ticklerguy4u, you are right. This is exactly what this thread is about. I want people to whine, complain, bitch, rant and give every reason why they hate rap. I hope it makes their soul feel better....

 

[Italian_Touch]

I can speak for myself only, of course.

Personally I hate rap for the following reasons:
1. English is not my native language and I do not manage to unserstand a word of what the singers say.

2. The few times I manage to read the lyrics I usually don't liked the message that comes with the songs (I tend to believe that not all rap, as a genre, just says one single thing, but a substantial part of the few things I wrote was just about violence, gangs, drugs, fight the police, et.c etc. nothing that tickled my fancy).

3. I am unable to catch the art in rhymes spoken fast, not sung, on basically a rythm, without a real melody.

4. I don't know how to dance it properly, and I get bored...

5. there are some "hybrids" around where a great melody from the past is taken, converted in a "rap" style and resold. Usually inserting spoken verses between the refrains. Young people do not even know it's a remake... sounds like cheating 🙂

Said that there is a kind of "melodic" rap, kind of slower, which I do like. There are some love song-like rap songs that I like as well.


Probably if I could fix most of these points I might like it, but so far, nope.

That's my two cents.

 

[Goodieluver]

But goodie, rap artists are not the only ones who are using past artists' ideas. after all, Little Richard inspired Elvis. Where do you think Elvis got his ideas from?

Despite your beliefs, you DO need vocal talent to become a successful rap artist. Guys like 2pac, Snoop, Ice Cube and even Eminem have distinct voices and rap styles which is why they are successful. Not everyone who raps is good at it.

I would like to see a "rap hater" go out to the urban areas where rap music is constantly being played and tell those young kids that they have no real talent if they rap and that the artists they listen to are no good and talentless. That will go over real well.....

I do find it hard to understand why people would hate something and think they know so much about the "talent level" of rap artists if they never actually listened to the artists. Guys like 2pac and Ice Cube actually rap about the ills of society and have made songs that are positive. But, rap haters wouldn't know that because they do not listen to their songs.

Ticklerguy4u, you are right. This is exactly what this thread is about. I want people to whine, complain, bitch, rant and give every reason why they hate rap. I hope it makes their soul feel better....

That is the stupidest comeback for any conversation, its like saying you cant badmouth any professional athlete or criticize them because you cant get on the field and play. You reference to elvis was obviously a reference to stating Elvis built himself off black gospel music and evolved it, dont see what relevance it had to my commentary but whatever, i didnt argue that. What im saying is Elvis wrote his music, he didnt pull a, say for example, vanilla ice, where he took the exact beats and sounds from other songs, and changed 1 beat or 1 sound and claimed it unique and original. It takes talent to be eric clapton, it doesnt take talent to be Easy E(or insert another name)


I find it funny how you complain about people who dont like rap music and rant on it, yet your return is to rant at THOSE people and have a close mind to those people.

 

[Italian_Touch]

But goodie, rap artists are not the only ones who are using past artists' ideas. after all, Little Richard inspired Elvis. Where do you think Elvis got his ideas from?

Despite your beliefs, you DO need vocal talent to become a successful rap artist. Guys like 2pac, Snoop, Ice Cube and even Eminem have distinct voices and rap styles which is why they are successful. Not everyone who raps is good at it.

I would like to see a "rap hater" go out to the urban areas where rap music is constantly being played and tell those young kids that they have no real talent if they rap and that the artists they listen to are no good and talentless. That will go over real well.....

I do find it hard to understand why people would hate something and think they know so much about the "talent level" of rap artists if they never actually listened to the artists. Guys like 2pac and Ice Cube actually rap about the ills of society and have made songs that are positive. But, rap haters wouldn't know that because they do not listen to their songs.

Ticklerguy4u, you are right. This is exactly what this thread is about. I want people to whine, complain, bitch, rant and give every reason why they hate rap. I hope it makes their soul feel better....

I do agree on that. I tried to rap a couple of times, and, believe me, I sucked. Bad not just a bit... BADLY.
I agree that it requires skills. My limitation is that I do not see the art in it.

 

[makemlaugh2003]

I scanned this entire thread...

...hoping no one had yet said what it turned out Jerry had said already, so I could be the first one. Oh well. I agree with ya though, Jerry...though rap was once spirited and fun back in the '80's, when it was taken far less seriously and "Gangsta" rap hadn't yet descended upon us. Gimme The Fat Boys, Run DMC, DJ Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince, and MC Hammer from his first two albums any day.

 

[primetime]

So Goodie, you can't see the points I am trying to make. Figures. You can have your opinion, that's fine. But, what makes you an expert on music? By the way, if you do criticize a pro athlete, it is helpful that you are an athlete, otherwise how can you judge someone's athletic skills? I don't watch soccer, and you'll never hear me criticize any soccer player for their athletic skills. Become familiar with a topic before you criticize it, otherwise you can look stupid.

Now, back to the rap debate. Goodie, have you ever really listened to rap music, or is the beat too "hip" for you? Not all rap is about "f*** this" and "bitch that". There are actually some very positive songs in rap. But you would never know that would you? As for Elvis, did he ever give credit to Little Richard? I don't remember that happening, so please let me know when he did that.

I wish you could meet Dr. Dre and tell him he has no talent for creating music. I wish you could meet Snoop and tell him he has no vocal talent. You would be laughed off the face of the Earth....

To the others you responded to this thread. Thank you. You are giving your viewpoints, but just be aware I am going to give counterpoints. To answer your statements Goodie, the reason why I am giving a counterpoint is the same exact reason people use when they disrespect other threads about rap. I am giving my viewpoint. Deal with it...

 

[Tamia78]

KUDOS to Primetime!!!

Thank you sooooo much for creating this thread. If you didn't do it, I would've.

The thing is, I don't like most rock music, but you don't see me going in the threads created for Rock musicians dying, or bands breaking up, and just saying that, "Rock music is crap". I choose to keep my opinions to myself, which is something you people can't do. EVERY time a rap, hip-hop or urban artist, musician, group or whatever is posted in a thread, there is ALWAYS someone who expresses distaste with whatever artist the thread starter is trying to post about. Now, why is that? Maybe you guys need some attention or something, I don't know. Well, here you go! Now's your chance!

But yeah, go ahead and whine. I mean, it's not like we don't already know you hate rap music. Hell, I don't even like rap music that much, but I'm not going to whine about it. I just turn the radio off.


--T

 

[maniactickler]

Thank you sooooo much for creating this thread. If you didn't do it, I would've.

The thing is, I don't like most rock music, but you don't see me going in the threads created for Rock musicians dying, or bands breaking up, and just saying that, "Rock music is crap". I choose to keep my opinions to myself, which is something you people can't do. EVERY time a rap, hip-hop or urban artist, musician, group or whatever is posted in a thread, there is ALWAYS someone who expresses distaste with whatever artist the thread starter is trying to post about. Now, why is that? Maybe you guys need some attention or something, I don't know. Well, here you go! Now's your chance!

But yeah, go ahead and whine. I mean, it's not like we don't already know you hate rap music. Hell, I don't even like rap music that much, but I'm not going to whine about it. I just turn the radio off.


--T

I have no comment.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

That is the stupidest comeback for any conversation, its like saying you cant badmouth any professional athlete or criticize them because you cant get on the field and play. You reference to elvis was obviously a reference to stating Elvis built himself off black gospel music and evolved it, dont see what relevance it had to my commentary but whatever, i didnt argue that. What im saying is Elvis wrote his music, he didnt pull a, say for example, vanilla ice, where he took the exact beats and sounds from other songs, and changed 1 beat or 1 sound and claimed it unique and original. It takes talent to be eric clapton, it doesnt take talent to be Easy E(or insert another name)

I find it funny how you complain about people who dont like rap music and rant on it, yet your return is to rant at THOSE people and have a close mind to those people.

It's statements like this that make it hard for me to take anything you say seriously. It's obvious that you don't listen to rap and you have no idea what you are talking about. Rap artists write their music too. Great rap artists are made through their lyrics, not the beats. Even though a rap artist an instrument, it takes talent to make their beats. That's why certain people are sought out when someone wants to make a hot song. You even have people from other musical fields who are using rappers to help make their albums, i.e., Michael Jackson & Whitney Houston. Rapping takes a special gift. Rapping is very hard to do. You only prove your lack of knowledge of rap by you last statement. Eazy-E is a part of hip-hop, but you through his name out as if he were one of the greatest rappers ever. Eazy was more than a rapper, he was a businessman, or as Jay-Z would say, a business man. Please tell me how it doesn't take talent to effect the lives of millions of people the way N.W.A. did in the late 80's? Most of you claim you don't like hip-hop because of the content of some of the music. You can thank Eazy-E and the N.W.A. for that. And I guess Elvis wrote his music just like he wrote "Hound Dog" right?

 

[PainTrain]

I don't have anything against rap. I just don't care for it.

I'm a Rock/Dance/Opera/Classical kinda guy.

 

[primetime]

Ticklefiend, EXACTLY!! Goodie for some oddball reason thinks he is an expert of music and can make wild claims that it doesn't take talent to make a rap song. Like i mentioned, there are a few artists who are truly gifted in rap. It is more than just rhyming over a tune.

One of the greatest lyricists of all time for rap is Ice Cube. He has written a lot of social conscious songs and he is definitely an intelligient man. People like Goodie will never see it. But if he wants to live in his ignorance, it's his right.

Like Italian Touch said, not everyone can rap and it does take skill. I know I can't rap and i like the music...

 

[chicago]

I try not to judge an entire group based on one example.

That's just me.

However, I guess why people don't like hip hop because many artists choose to rap about drugs, sex, violence, and whatnot.

Although, they probably don't realize there are rap artists that don't do this.

I really like Nas and have been listening to a lot of Immortal Technique lately.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Ticklefiend, EXACTLY!! Goodie for some oddball reason thinks he is an expert of music and can make wild claims that it doesn't take talent to make a rap song. Like i mentioned, there are a few artists who are truly gifted in rap. It is more than just rhyming over a tune.

One of the greatest lyricists of all time for rap is Ice Cube. He has written a lot of social conscious songs and he is definitely an intelligient man. People like Goodie will never see it. But if he wants to live in his ignorance, it's his right.

Like Italian Touch said, not everyone can rap and it does take skill. I know I can't rap and i like the music...

I don't think anything of the opinion of people who don't listen to rap. Funny how these people want to slam rap but don't know a damn thing about it. People who like rap even notice it's flaws and express the same negative sentiments that have been posted in this thread. It's just that people here are posting completely ignorant statements w/o fully understanding what they are speaking about. I feel the same way about these people you see on TV (CNN, FOX News, etc.) trying to tell us why hip-hop is bad. There are other art forms that express real HATE music but you never hear anyone complaining about them. There are rock artists and groups who express advocate violence and racism in their music. I wouldn't make a general statement about a music genre based on a few songs, especially if I don't listen to that type of music extensively. I don't like country music, but I respect the fact that they have great, legendary musicians who are worthy of being recognized as such. I wouldn't dispute a claim by anyone who wants to tell me that a certain country musician is one of the all-time greats, because I don't listen to the music. Hip-hop is much bigger than what is heard on the radio or seen on TV, but most of you will never understand.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

I try not to judge an entire group based on one example.

That's just me.

However, I guess why people don't like hip hop because many artists choose to rap about drugs, sex, violence, and whatnot.

Although, they probably don't realize there are rap artists that don't do this.

I really like Nas and have been listening to a lot of Immortal Technique lately.

I can see why people wouldn't like hip-hop because of the things that are rapped about. However, when they are rapping about these things they are just telling us about their lives somewhat. Some rap artists were involved in drugs, violence & other things before they were put on. They know nothing else other than these things so thats what they rap about. They could be more creative but I don't have a problem with hearing about those types of things. Hot music is hot music and I don't really care what they are rapping about. I like many types of music, current and past, and I can listen to all forms of hip-hop/rap.

 

[chicago]

I can see why people wouldn't like hip-hop because of the things that are rapped about. However, when they are rapping about these things they are just telling us about their lives somewhat. Some rap artists were involved in drugs, violence & other things before they were put on. They know nothing else other than these things so thats what they rap about. They could be more creative but I don't have a problem with hearing about those types of things. Hot music is hot music and I don't really care what they are rapping about. I like many types of music, current and past, and I can listen to all forms of hip-hop/rap.

You make a good point, but you can't deny that rap/hip hop glamorizes a "thug" lifestyle which is rife with drugs, alcohol, violence, etc.

It's one thing to rap about the bad life you had, it's another to rap about how cool smoking weed and raping women is.

 

[cloudgazer2k]

i dislike (read: despise) rap for many reasons. one of them is that 99% of the rap "artists" out there make numerous references to rape, murder, illicit drug abuse, "pimpin' hoes", their bad ass ride, etc...none of which i really care about. i don't want to know about their "mistress with big tits", or how many blunts they can smoke in less than an hour. rap from years and years ago was very tame in comparison to the more recent years, and the fact that parents let their kids listen to it (the same parents who bitch and moan about the violence in video games...trust me, i know some of those people) without really blinking bothers me.

another thing that bothers me about rap is that the vast majority of the fans that listen to it have the innate need to blast it out of their speakers as they cruise oh-so-slowly through the streets, as if the neighborhood wishes for that kind of "entertainment". i do my best to ignore it, but sometimes the bass is set to the point that it sounds like the car is rattling apart as it ambles down the road.

has nothing to do with a closed mind, as i enjoy several varieties of music...it's all about taste, and some people's lack of.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Rappers don't rap about rape. They rap about sex a lot but never about rape. I'm sure rape has come up in some rap songs before but it's not like that is rampant throughout rap. Rappers rap about their sexual escapades but it doesn't involve rape. They don't need to rape anyone.

 

[Iggy pop]

I think a lot people hate rap music because it's so popular. Rap is far from my favorite genre, but there are certain artists that I like. My biggest complaint about a lot of rap is that it often appears to be very materialistic, but I guess that is our society.

 

[DEEPSHOTONE]

Rap'n about rape????

i dislike (read: despise) rap for many reasons. one of them is that 99% of the rap "artists" out there make numerous references to rape, murder, illicit drug abuse, "pimpin' hoes", their bad ass ride, etc.../QUOTE]


I've been listening to hip-hop since 1979. I admit the rappers talk about a lot of negitive things in their music but I've never heard a raper talk about or glorify rape. Why would you want to rape a woman when women everywhere are throwing themselves at you??? I even asked my little brother (he's 30 btw) whom I consider " the Hip-hop God", had he ever heard a raper talk about rape. He couldn't think of one artist that did.
Question: I find it very interesting that so many White folks dislike or despise hip-hop when, according to record sales, that the majority of people(aprox 70 percent) who purchas hip- hop are white. Why is that?? Remember hip-hop was underground in the black commuinty for many years. These guy's and girls didn't get rich off of black folks..
Further more, why has cooporate america jumped on the hip-hop band wagon? Every movie trailer and soda commercial has a hip-hop theme to it. Just wondering.....