Why do folks hate rap music so much?

[Mastertank1]

Dunno bout' anyone else...

But I hate it because what passes for rap these days is a complete betrayal of it's own roots and origins.

I witnessed rap in the days when it was extemporaneous. When the chosen champion rappers of two gangs would settle a dispute with a rap contest instead of having a rumble or a 'fair one'. (A one on one fight with equal or no weapons.)

There were rules. A rap was 12 lines in three quatrains (no, they didn't know that term, but that's what it was). The first was a brag on oneself/one's gang. The second was a putdown of the opposition. The third stated the case as to why that rapper's side should win the dispute. Each side went three times. There were three neutral judges, agreed on by both sides.
To fight after a rap contest decided the matter was to hurt your own street cred and dis the judges.

I witnessed a bunch of those; I judged some.

The extemporaniety was the key element; those guys were the most amazing right-off-the-top-of-their-head wordsmiths! I admired the hell out of them. I listen to rap every now and then, by getting the cds from the library.
I'm always dissappointed, comparing the brainless repetetive garbage that passes for rap now with the sheer verbal artistry, the dazzling brilliance I used to hear in the streets of NYC.

THAT was art. The new stuff is trash.

Judgemental? Damn right! 🙄

 

[red indian]

You hit the nail on the head Primetime in your opening post when you asked if those who dont like rap have ever listened to the music.

The answer is, yes I do listen to it, because i have no bloody choice mate! I would LOVE to be able to tell you that I dont listen to it, but it seems to be rammed down my throat on a daily basis.

I cant think of anything better than being able to tell you i never listen to rap......fat chance!!

 

[red indian]

And another thing, while I'm at it. One of the fundemental principles of each generations music in recent years seems to be that it must alienate and repell the older generations.

I can assure Primetime and all his rap buddies that he has been entirely successful in acheaving this aim. I am utterly repelled.

 

[chicago]

And another thing, while I'm at it. One of the fundemental principles of each generations music in recent years seems to be that it must alienate and repell the older generations.

I can assure Primetime and all his rap buddies that he has been entirely successful in acheaving this aim. I am utterly repelled.

That's a recent thing?

 

[makemlaugh2003]

Sir Mix-a-Lot! HOW could I have forgotten Da Mixer?

If we all just sat and listened to "Buttermilk Biscuits," I'm certain a lot of this tension would likely dissipate. Granted, Mix was not "Gangstah" and had no "Street Cred" and was not "Hardcore," but he had lots of harmless, silly fun, obviously had talent, and made people happy. Give me that over "Smack My B*tch Up" ANY day.

 

[chicago]

If we all just sat and listened to "Buttermilk Biscuits," I'm certain a lot of this tension would likely dissipate. Granted, Mix was not "Gangstah" and had no "Street Cred" and was not "Hardcore," but he had lots of harmless, silly fun, obviously had talent, and made people happy. Give me that over "Smack My B*tch Up" ANY day.

Actually "Smack My Bitch Up" was The Prodigy, an electronica/rock band.

 

[chicago]

All I know is that I've been obsessed with music since I was a toddler. I took music theory in college and aced it. I've been to more concerts than I can count. I played keyboards in three bands simultaneously during the 80s. I've been playing guitar since 1974 and piano since 1968. I've written, composed, arranged, and recorded my own originals.

I have no idea what you consider a "clue" but I think I'm as musically qualified as the next guy, at least well enough to render an opinion on rap. I stand by my earlier comments.

That may be, but you're clearly older than the generation for which rap music was intended. So it probably wasn't a genre you studied all those years ago. And if you really held your musical education in such high esteem you'd take the time to really look into hip hop before dismissing it as "talentless."

But I'm sorry for insulting your taste in music. I know how "Tickle Tackle" is swiftly climbing the Bilboard Top 40.

 

[steph]

hmmmm...

I think maybe what constitutes "rap" is in the eye of the beholder? Like beauty?

I guess for a white chick, I'm what they call old school. Do you consider Sugar Hill Gang rap? It's the first experience with it that I can come up with. I loved it. I was just a kid when I heard it for the first time, I played it 25 times a day until I knew it word for word. Hell, I still know it word for word and still love it. I loved RunDMC and their music even before they partnered with "whiteboys" Aerosmith 😉 for a vid. Is that rap?

I think true rap is poetry, but that's just what I (me, Steph) considers rap.
"Gangster rap" is not my thing. It strikes me as an insult to brilliant and creative young (mostly) men.
XOXO

 

[Azrael]

Experts... Choking Smokers? Don't You Think...

Granted, this might come off as a bit unintentionally hard. I've got a lot of bad taste in my mouth for people who would promote themselves as experts via study, in any field. Particularly, when such promotion is used to defend a stance taken, with regards to said field, which involves a stereotyped put-down of a broad range of... whatever... as being not at all broad, but very narrow.

Very few things are so cut-and-dry.

I'm no music expert. That said, and while I myself have been guilty of plenty of generalized "I don't like rap" statements, there are a number of rappers out there who steer completely clear of the "gangsta" quality. It's similar to a subgenre of any other form of music; consider Metal... Heavy Metal... Death Metal... Black Metal... God only knows what else is out there. There is SOME level of distinguishable content between each, else there wouldn't be a distinguishment made in the first place.

I've heard some rap artists whom I liked. I've heard rap songs, made by artists whose names aren't known to me, that I liked. I've found them to be musical in their fundamental qualities. Technically, a lot of them conform to the "laws of music" (there's an oxymoron, by the way) a lot more than, say, Brittney Spears, or N'Sync, or any of the other pop brats running around pissing in their diapers these days.

I wrote a rap song, once, as a joke. It turned out pretty well, if I do say so myself. No matter what the style, it can't logically be said to be impossible to make something conforming to it which is, in and of itself, a work of quality.

Having spoken with TicklishGiggle about music in many of our discussions, and being well aware of the breadth and span and scope of her musical knowledge (back through a number of generations of songs, bands, and musical styles) without her having to come out and tell me about it with regards to this specifically, I'm more than willing to go with her word on the matter and concede the worthiness of "rap" as being declared an art form.

The statement, in particular, that calling it audio entertainment would in and of itself be overly generous seems to invalidate any official declaration, from the same individual, as to whether or not rap might be called art; the move from attacking it as 'art' to attacking it as 'entertainment' quite plainly moves the whole argument into the realm of personal opinion.

 

[Cave In]

I prefer the old school hip hop stuff like Sugarhill Gang De La Soul etc.
Kanye Wests Late Registration is probably the best rap album ive heard recently.

But current rap in general is just garbage its very similar to the way Nu-Metal went, saturated with quantity over quality. I dont buy the albums but I hear enough on the radio to know that its boring, You know something is wrong with the music industry when a rapper (50 cent) can effectively mumble through the majority of a song and be a superstar.

But like ticklishgiggle says, the vast majority of popular music today is shit, and you have to dig alittle to find the gems

 

[primetime]

now that i got a chance to read the posts, most of the people are agreeing with me to a certain degree. Rap IS music. Just like all genres, there's good stuff, there's bad stuff. I do not like a lot of the rap music that is out today, but artists back in the day (2pac, Ice Cube and many other artists from the 80's and 90's) is what i mainly listen to. I also listen to a lot of R&B style music, i even listen to rock music (Creed is amazing). In fact, i have a CD that i made that is all "rock" type songs. I listen and tolerate a bunch of music.

what ticks me off is when you have some close minded people claim that ALL rap is not music and rap artists have no talent. Goodie comes to mind. Believe me Goodie, anyone who can rhyme, may not be able to rap. You have people who can come up with lyrics off the top of their head in freestyle rap and make it sound good. Not everyone can do this. Most people try it and they sound like idiots. The big name artists (Ice Cube, Biggie, NWA, 2pac, even Eminem) all have vocal skills that others just do not have. In terms of music, Dr. Dre (in my opinion) is the best producer out there. He was influenced by a lot of the music that was out in the 70's. He knows how to create music. But you will never know that because you don't want to find out. Do your research. Research Dr. Dre and see if you can learn something from him.

This thread was designed to allow people to say why they do not like rap. My other objective for creating this thread was to find the people who have no idea on what rap is about, so i can counterpoint them and make them see that by "bashing" rap, they are "bashing" an entire culture. What do you expect? You can insult someone's musical tastes and not get a reaction? Just because you feel rap is not music doesn't mean that you are correct, because you are not. I am sick and tired of people bashing a certain genre of music and they do not understand it and make blanket accusations on what is all about when they never even really listened to the music. Back in the day, i thought Heavy Metal music was all Satanic music. But guess what? I listened to a few songs and there were a few that was good. Because i decided to listen to a few songs, it made me realize that I can't make generalizations about a genre that I normally do not listen to.

People have different tastes. That is understandable and I do not expect "rap haters" to all of the sudden become rap fans. What i am asking people to do is be TOLERANT of other people's tastes. If you do not like rap, fine, but don't go into a thread about rap where people are being positive about the music they love and "bash" it. That's why I say certain people are close minded and ignorant. I don't listen to country, but you will never see me bashing the genre. People like what they like. Learn to live with it. You can disagree with the lyrics (yes, some of it is very bad), but there are also very positive messages in rap and you need to open your damn eyes and see it.

Most people posting in this thread are stating why they do not like rap, but are not "bashing" it. There are some that are and that's where I have the problem.

 

[nostradamas]

Rap Expert? Come on.

That may be, but you're clearly older than the generation for which rap music was intended. So it probably wasn't a genre you studied all those years ago. And if you really held your musical education in such high esteem you'd take the time to really look into hip hop before dismissing it as "talentless."

But I'm sorry for insulting your taste in music. I know how "Tickle Tackle" is swiftly climbing the Bilboard Top 40.

That last line was pretty uncalled for.
A cheap shot, fer real...bitches!

It takes a lot of guts to post an original piece of music online.
And zero guts to criticize someone's efforts.
What have you ever written or performed and recorded?
Yeah, thought so.

Just because you're young doesn't make you an expert on music or rap. (btw, "billboard" has 2 L's).

I've performed, engineered and produced more rap-type bands than I can remember in Minneapolis-St. Paul, some of them major label playah's...and guess what?

If they met you, they would take one quick look at you (red-haired, pierced lip, lilly-white, suburban kid) and say "Man, you don't understand US at all... wigger!".

Yeah, that's right.
That's what they would call you.

Harsh, ain't it?

I guarantee they would not like you, because it's "their" music and it isn't FOR YOU.
You got no cred.

And who could blame them?
You have not walked a single step in their shoes, and don't even pretend you have.
All they want is your money. (Buy my CD, come to my show).



So stop trying to defend a genre that wants nothing to do with you, 'cause you don't understand it either.

 

[asutickler]

I'm your basic hillbilly white kid from rural Minnesota (and by rural, I mean out in the friggin' woods) and I like rap music. Not all of it, but quite a bit of it...
🙂

 

[RobAce]

That last line was pretty uncalled for.
A cheap shot, fer real...bitches!

It takes a lot of guts to post an original piece of music online.
And zero guts to criticize someone's efforts.
What have you ever written or performed and recorded?
Yeah, thought so.

Just because you're young doesn't make you an expert on music or rap. (btw, "billboard" has 2 L's).

I've performed, engineered and produced more rap-type bands than I can remember in Minneapolis-St. Paul, some of them major label playah's...and guess what?

If they met you, they would take one quick look at you (red-haired, pierced lip, lilly-white, suburban kid) and say "Man, you don't understand US at all... wigger!".

Yeah, that's right.
That's what they would call you.

Harsh, ain't it?

I guarantee they would not like you, because it's "their" music and it isn't FOR YOU.
You got no cred.

And who could blame them?
You have not walked a single step in their shoes, and don't even pretend you have.
All they want is your money. (Buy my CD, come to my show).



So stop trying to defend a genre that wants nothing to do with you, 'cause you don't understand it either.

Whoah. This thread has degraded from attacking the post to attacking the posters....in both cases.
Somehow I think this thread is going to be deleted, or certain posts edited.
Come on guys, lets keep the discussion on the subject and not the people.

I mean really.
In case you all forgot, or did not read it...here is a kind reminder...before a MOD steps in.

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Can we please have a discussion about something that does not spiral into snide comments, childish and petty arguments, and flat out insulting.

Send your ill wishes to my PM box....

Rob

 

[alchemy]

First of all, I am a professional musician. I've been playing guitar and studying music theory for over 12 years now. I also teach guitar and theory.
I play in a heavy metal band because that style of music is my passion, but I can listen to and respect many other types of music. I studied Jazz in College, I love the Blues, I love Classical (especially Baroque...love those counterpoints), and I also have an affinity for experimental music.
Rap is not on that list because I personally don't care for it. I DID listen to it a bit when I was a kid in the 80's. My cousins and I would make mix tapes that would include Will Smith or The Fat Boys.
Some of my cousins and relatives do like it quite a bit though. I have a cousin that does Christian Rap to give kids possitive messages. I've already told him that if he wants me to add some guitar to his music that I'd be more than happy to. I'm not into Rap and I'm kind of an athiest, but blood is thicker than all of that.
So why don't i like Rap (besides the fact that I just don't care for it)? Well, it goes back to a quote I read from Mozart:

"Music is melody and melody is music"

I've listened to quite a bit of it via my relatives (who are bound and determined that they are going to get me into it) and I simply don't hear a lot of melody in most of it. To be fair, I have the same problem with a lot of technical progressive and Bebop jazz...I simply don't hear a lot of melody in it. There's lots of things going on, but it simply doesn't leave a musical impression on me.

Also, I think that one of the reasons that there is such animosity towards Rap is that fact that it's EVERYWHERE these days. The over abundance of something tends to kill (or at least water down) that thing. A lot of people simply get sick of it. If heavy metal was as prevelant as Rap was in the States, there would probably be just as many negative reactions towards that....OH WAIT, THAT WAS THE EARLY 80's!!! Remember that? Ozzy on trial, Iron Maiden concerts picketted, preachers and religious groups calling metalheads satanists and just people all over not liking that damned noisy heavy metal. Anyway....

My 2 cents.

I say listen to what you like. If other's don't like it, oh well.

 

[drew70]

That may be, but you're clearly older than the generation for which rap music was intended. So it probably wasn't a genre you studied all those years ago.

No, but I did study all of the genres from which you claim rap is derived. The only reason I elaborated on my lifelong study of music at all is because you said that anybody who makes statements like mine "not only have no clue about rap music, but music in general." I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't simply making a cheap shot.

And if you really held your musical education in such high esteem you'd take the time to really look into hip hop before dismissing it as "talentless."

Holy shit. I said "I think I'm as musically qualified as the next guy.." Does that honestly translate to "such high esteem" to you??

Secondly, I never said rap was "talentless." I said that it "offered those with no musical talent whatsoever to become 'artists' if only in their own mind." Rap takes some talents, mostly vocal endurance, rhythm, audio engineering, and a high tolerance for monotony. But certainly no musical talent. And I have to tell you, you don't have to listen to a lot of it to form a negative opinion.

But I'm sorry for insulting your taste in music.

Oh, not to worry. You haven't insulted my taste in music. You just got angry at the things I said and tried to discredit them by casting aspertions on my understanding of music in general. It's completely understandable, if a little petty.

I know how "Tickle Tackle" is swiftly climbing the Bilboard Top 40.

Oh well, so much for the benefit of the doubt.

 

[kis123]

That last line was pretty uncalled for.
A cheap shot, fer real...bitches!

It takes a lot of guts to post an original piece of music online.
And zero guts to criticize someone's efforts.
What have you ever written or performed and recorded?
Yeah, thought so.

Just because you're young doesn't make you an expert on music or rap. (btw, "billboard" has 2 L's).

I've performed, engineered and produced more rap-type bands than I can remember in Minneapolis-St. Paul, some of them major label playah's...and guess what?

If they met you, they would take one quick look at you (red-haired, pierced lip, lilly-white, suburban kid) and say "Man, you don't understand US at all... wigger!".

Yeah, that's right.
That's what they would call you.

Harsh, ain't it?

I guarantee they would not like you, because it's "their" music and it isn't FOR YOU.
You got no cred.

And who could blame them?
You have not walked a single step in their shoes, and don't even pretend you have.
All they want is your money. (Buy my CD, come to my show).



So stop trying to defend a genre that wants nothing to do with you, 'cause you don't understand it either.

Who said rap was exclusive only to one race? Just because it came from one race does not mean it's exclusive. The Beastie Boys have been out there almost as long as the music's been exposed to the public. I don't like their music, but it looks like many did. When someone buys a CD, there's no message saying "only blacks can buy this" is there?

And what is this thing everyone has about the word "bitch?" It is a female dog, plain and simple. The next time you take a woman to bed and she has four legs, a fur coat, and a tail, please take a picture for posterity. Otherwise IMO, it's a term to degrade women, an easy cheap shot usually used when nothing else works. There are so many people that say "bitch" more than they say "hello." Pretty sad when there are so many other words in the English language being left unused.

Green is the color most people in this business care about; just pay for what you listen to, plain and simple. This is one of the few genres of music that is enjoyed by many races. I remember as a kid getting called a "sell out" because I enjoyed listening to Rod Stewart, Aerosmith, and the Stones. I can appreciate those liking a musical genre not so close to their race.

Besides, if anyone wants to give an opinion, it would be really great if they didn't get so defensive and over-the-top personal. This is supposed to about why people hate rap music, not some sort of personal attack fest. It's a good way to get a thread shut down and no one able to share opinions on it.

 

[isabeau]

That same claim is also used by people who like rap. Older people are usually the ones who don't understand rap, especially those who grew up in a world w/o rap or with very little. There are people who listened to rap in the 80's and 90's and don't like the direction that rap has taken. People don't like how a lot of it sounds the same. People don't like the messages that they feel are sent through the music. People don't like the use of words such as "bitches" in the music. I understand peoples complaints with rap. I understand that the content of a lot of the songs are the same but that won't stop me from listening to a song or CD that I feel is hot.

When I hear rappers rapping about smoking weed, selling drugs or killing people that they are telling me I should do it. They are saying what they did/are doing. A lot of the time they are telling people that they shouldn't do what they did or do. There's a rapper named Young Jeezy who many people feel is part of the problem with rap. He raps a lot about drugs(especially cocaine) and all the other things some people don't like about rap. He has a song called J.E.E.Z.Y. on his latest CD with the chorus:
Jeezy like to drink
Jeezy like to smoke
Jeezy like to mix arm and hammer with his coke
Jeezy at the trap
Jeezy like to grind
Jeezy bout his paper
Cuz Jeezy like to shine

When I hear something like this I'm able to feel it w/o feeling like he's telling me to do anything he does. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs but I still can like his music because I think it sounds good. I can listen to Young Jeezy one minute and Common the next and N.W.A. or De La Soul after that.

When people become older I think they understandably begin to find fault with this type of music. I have different standards from a guy who is older and has children. When it comes to kids I understand the fear that people have about the effect that rap can have on them. In my opinion, that's for the parents to handle. They should monitor what their kids listen to. They can still listen to rpa becuase rap is much more than what we are exposed to most of the time. I don't want to be penalized in any way because of what someone else does becuase of rap.

And lastly, when it comes to the use of the word "bitch" I have no problem with it. I would have a problem if someone was saying that all women are bitches but that's not the case. I think people should realize that there are bitches in this world, whether you like it our not. And rappers, as well as other musicians, come in contact with a lot off bitches. If they want to rap about their experiences and encounters with a bitch, or if they want to rap about a fictional/metaphorical bitch, they have the right to do so. You know why? Becuase in the words of the legendary N.W.A., "A Bitch Iz a Bitch."

hmm i find offense with this post as i am what would be considered older..and i listen to hard rock music everyday of my life...i don't consider age a factor in this..and i happen to like rap...not all rap of course, as i haven't heard all rap...but what i've heard, there are those rap singers i like and those i don't..

i am a music expert..my whole family has been...and anyone who says it doesn't take talent to rap, should try it themselves...it takes talent to write the lyrics..to come up with the background music that fits in with the rap, etc..i'm not making much sense here , but i will say this...Music is ageless, it knows no age..

after reading this post of mine..it doesn't hardly make any sense at all..o well..

 

[chicago]

Ha. Figures.

I subtly insult one song that I've listened to from beginning to end and I'm a bitch.


But insult an entire genre of music that's been around for nearly 40 decades, all the artists involved in it, and all of the fans, and you are A-OK.

I see how this thread works.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

That may be, but you're clearly older than the generation for which rap music was intended. So it probably wasn't a genre you studied all those years ago. And if you really held your musical education in such high esteem you'd take the time to really look into hip hop before dismissing it as "talentless."

But I'm sorry for insulting your taste in music. I know how "Tickle Tackle" is swiftly climbing the Bilboard Top 40.

That was funny.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

That last line was pretty uncalled for.
A cheap shot, fer real...bitches!

It takes a lot of guts to post an original piece of music online.
And zero guts to criticize someone's efforts.
What have you ever written or performed and recorded?
Yeah, thought so.

Just because you're young doesn't make you an expert on music or rap. (btw, "billboard" has 2 L's).

I've performed, engineered and produced more rap-type bands than I can remember in Minneapolis-St. Paul, some of them major label playah's...and guess what?

If they met you, they would take one quick look at you (red-haired, pierced lip, lilly-white, suburban kid) and say "Man, you don't understand US at all... wigger!".

Yeah, that's right.
That's what they would call you.

Harsh, ain't it?

I guarantee they would not like you, because it's "their" music and it isn't FOR YOU.
You got no cred.

And who could blame them?
You have not walked a single step in their shoes, and don't even pretend you have.
All they want is your money. (Buy my CD, come to my show).



So stop trying to defend a genre that wants nothing to do with you, 'cause you don't understand it either.

I think you're wrong. Just because she is white and listens to some rap doesn't mean she' would be called a "wigger." As long as she's staying true to who she is and not pretending to be someone she is not, then I don't see what the problem is. You don't have to experience what a rapper is rapping about to respect and like their music. Do you really think that all of the people who listen to a certain rappers music have really been through what that rapper is talking about? No matter what the race is.Rap is meant for anyone who truly loves and respects it.

 

[drew70]

Ha. Figures.

I subtly insult one song that I've listened to from beginning to end and I'm a bitch.

Unless you are schizophrenic nobody called you a bitch. Nostradamas used the phrase "fer real bitches" to parodize the type of audio entertainment we're discussing. I don't know about you, but for me that phrase pretty much sums up the depth of art and asthetic value in a typical rap audio clip. (Don't ask me to call them "songs")

But insult an entire genre of music that's been around for nearly 40 decades, all the artists involved in it, and all of the fans, and you are A-OK.

Mairead, may I humbly redirect you to the first words in the opening post of this thread?

"I decided to create this thread so all the rap ha-
ters can sound off about why they hate rap music."​

Given this opening comment, I have to ask, what exactly did you expect to find in this thread? Praise and adoration?

 

[Dave2112]

Guys, we really need to start keeping this civil. This is a hot topic thread, so expect some heated disagreements.

The personal attacks stop now. And don't even get me started on the utter audacity of calling someone a "wigger" considering the razor's edge people have to walk to show respect by not saying other words. One more usage of that, and this is gone.

This is too large a thread to start weeding through and editing, so this needs to stop now. As was stated, this thread was about what people do not like about rap music. Don't expect people to come in here and sing its praises. There are plenty of threads for that. Let's show some respect to everyone's tastes, if we agree with them or not. This is about the topic, not each other.

 

[makemlaugh2003]

Amen, Dave

And hey! Ya ever laid down any tracks by Timex Social Club? KILLER one-hit-wonder stuff from the 80's, the kind of rap that was far, far easier to like and encited no controversial riots whatsoever. And know what? As much as anyone can discredit rap (and, granted, I don't like most of it myself), the "music" that will populate the airwaves ten years from now, sadly, will likely be far, far worse. So maybe the best thing for all of us to do is agree to disagree and crank up "Fight For Your Right (To Party)." Gimme a backbeat, boys!

"Get outta my house if that's the clothes you're gonna wear
I'll kick ya outta my home if you don't CUT THAT HAIR!
Yo mom bustin' in and says, 'What's that noise?'
Aw, mom, you're just jealous, it's the BEASTIE BOYS!"

Everyone feel better now?

 

[lespieds]

I could give a damn less if someone wants to listen to rap.
For me, I just hate it, I won't buy it. Please do not subject me to it.
I have never listened to an entire rap album, just a few songs when some suburban gangster is blasting that crap out of his wanna-be mobile. but is it really necessary to hear an entire album to know if I don't like it?
That is like asking someone if they like the taste of shit, and arguing that they have never eaten an entire turd.