F**K YOU - warning, offensive language, intense tickling clip.

[tkl-pen]

Sorry Peter - that was rude - I didn't mean it that way - I do wonder, though, if that isn't the biggest problem America has in dealing with the rest of the world - America goes into areas like Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and so many others with the honorable goal of helping the people - and that is a great thing - but at the same time they want to set aside those parts of local cultures and practices they don't like and impose their own standards on other people - and so practices that are centuries old are to be set aside to please the Americans - I also don't care for genital mutilation in other parts of the world - but who am I to say that's wrong when we circumcize a large portion of the male children born in our own countries - and what example can a country that has the greatest crime rates in the world set for other countries.

 

[wendyandpeter]

Sorry Peter - that was rude - I didn't mean it that way - I do wonder, though, if that isn't the biggest problem America has in dealing with the rest of the world - America goes into areas like Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and so many others with the honorable goal of helping the people - and that is a great thing - but at the same time they want to set aside those parts of local cultures and practices they don't like and impose their own standards on other people - and so practices that are centuries old are to be set aside to please the Americans - I also don't care for genital mutilation in other parts of the world - but who am I to say that's wrong when we circumcize a large portion of the male children born in our own countries - and what example can a country that has the greatest crime rates in the world set for other countries.

Pen, you have it wrong. There are other countries that blame the U.S. for the miserable state they're in -- blame the World Bank for not loaning them money, etc. ... except they are unwilling to modernize, or establish stable governments or adopt the rule of law. Then they adopt militant attitudes toward the U.S. and other Western nations. Let's be absolutely clear about one thing. The U.S. economy still drives the world economy. We and our allies have interests to protect. If developing nations want to join the world economy, they are welcome! But that will mean major changes -- for them. Look at the massive changes Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, etc. willingly underwent, and they are global economic leaders today. Middle Eastern countries will have to find their way out of corruption, tribalism and massive illiteracy if they want to find their way out of poverty. And it isn't clear they are ready to do that, even with our help. It may very well be that it will take another half-century of poverty before something happens for them. Or it may never happen. All I know for sure is this: It isn't MY fucking fault that the Middle Eastern culture missed the Rennaissance and the Enlightenment and are 300 years behind. That's for them to fix. We don't owe those governments squat. I do feel sorry for the people, though, even though 99.999 percent of them would slit my throat in a microsecond if they had half a chance.

As for your male circumcision comment -- not the same thing at all, my freind. We don't cut the heads off little boys' penises. You're grabbing at straws.

You think the U.S. has the highest crime rates in the world? Let's assume that's true. Do you think we'd do a better job of deterring crime if we cut people's heads off for criticizing the government?

 

[Wade1]

I also don't care for genital mutilation in other parts of the world - but who am I to say that's wrong when we circumcize a large portion of the male children born in our own countries -

Mmm, I think we can pretty much feel free to say female genital mutilation is wrong.

 

[otherside]

thank you- I have extracted a winrar file b4, though Im not good at it
but I really appreciate being able to load the file- I was never able to get on site.
Im usually a lurker I guess, for the lack of a better term- but it occurs to me, with the problems some have with the viewing of a non-conscentual clip, if it is (I havent seen it yet, and it probably wont bother me THAT much anyway) would it bother anyone to watch teh "twilight zone" movie, where VIc Morrow was killed (and a child actor if I remember correctly, by a helicopter crashing rotor blade(that wasnt agreed to in the script)?

 

[ScorpionKing]

I still cant see the clip. 🙁 My take on the issue of nonconsensual tickle torture is that I dont have a problem with it. tickling paradise has a few videos that go into that category. The whole idea of torture is that the victim is really not liking being tickled but cant do squat about it. Its about the ticker being as sadistic as humanly possible and to some of us thats a turn on. I'll take real tickle torture were the victim is laughing her ass off and begging for mercy over some fake laughing and giggling.


I like to equate tickling to spanking, another one of my fav fetishes. Some like their spanking light and playful while others like it intense and painfull, leaving the spankee with marks and welts over their bottoms. Me I like it both but I really like the intense painful stuff. It amazes me how much pain people can take and put it on video. No wonder they cost so damm much. 😀

But thats just my opinion.


PS. How do I get to see the clip anyway?

 

[mirckor]

dont work...

It seems it doesn't work anymore...pleaseeee...can u post the file?

ciaooo Mirko

 

[MistressValerie1]

It's posted as a split archive here: http://www.tickletheater.com/showpost.php?p=174060&postcount=38

 

[wendyandpeter]

My take on the issue of nonconsensual tickle torture is that I dont have a problem with it... The whole idea of torture is that the victim is really not liking being tickled but cant do squat about it. Its about the ticker being as sadistic as humanly possible and to some of us thats a turn on.

Well, at least you're honest about it. That's the first step. What do you think makes you enjoy others people's misery?

 

[ScorpionKing]

It's posted as a split archive here: http://www.tickletheater.com/showpost.php?p=174060&postcount=38

I still cant see it.

Well, at least you're honest about it. That's the first step. What do you think makes you enjoy others people's misery?

I guess I'm just the type that likes a little sadism to go with my tickling. I read a lot of stories dealing with tickle torture but rarely see that kind of stuff put on video. My guess is that some people dont have that type of pain threshold. I still havent seen the clip myself so maybe that particular scene would be too much for me. Too bad its been removed because as an adult I'd like to be able to decide for myself whats offensive and not.

 

[MistressValerie1]

Too bad its been removed because as an adult I'd like to be able to decide for myself whats offensive and not.

The producer removed the free preview from his site, but the split clip remains posted at TT.

Even though many of us here find this kind of content to be disturbing, the staff does its utmost to avoid censoring legal, on-topic material.

 

[wendyandpeter]

legal

So far as we know.

 

[MistressValerie1]

For now, we have to take the word of the distributor's 2257 statement and the producer's business partner who claimed at TMF that it was all legal. If anyone can present evidence to the contrary, we will remove the material without delay.

 

[Kalamos]

Woah! 15000 hits.
People sure fought to get a peek at that clip.

Wonder if they paid somebody to cause a ruckus and make that vid popular yet controversial.

Some conondrunum.

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Hope whoever started complaining got a share out of it.

😉

 

[wendyandpeter]

Kalamos, this is the problem with speaking out. You're always caught between apathy and hype. If you say nothing, everyone assumes no one cares. If you say something, it draws attention. I can assure you no one paid for hype.

 

[Kalamos]

Why then create it?

I'm sometimes wondering with your motives.
I won't be mincing words: you consider this vid pure trash. You made that clear over TMF.

I don't know how mods work over there, but you could have fought for this vid's removal by PMs alone.
You don't really need users' support to make your point.

So, either you doubly failed at sinking this vid by making it popular, or you didn't really mind too much over it, and you argued for the sake of it.
Either one.

 

[wendyandpeter]

I think that if something's worth saying, it's worth saying publicly. I thought the community might benefit from the discussion.

 

[Kalamos]

Well, you kept them entertained for a while.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I came here to see what all the fuss was about. Can anyone tell me if the actual clip is worth the hype created around it?

Because its not a single file, and would require hacha or whatever, and I'm a bit lazy right now, I don't want to do it if it's not worth it.

Can someone discribe whats going on for me, just so I can get an idea? Screen captures would be even better.

 

[wendyandpeter]

Can anyone tell me if the actual clip is worth the hype created around it?

Not unless you have antisocial personality disorder. LOL

Seriously, here's the deal in a nutshell. The full (pay) version of the video shows a woman demanding the scene to stop, and a male tickler who refuses. Halfway through the video, she stops laughing, turns gravely serious, gets furious and screams, curses, and spits. The male repeatedly calls her a bitch, and ignores her demands.

If that turns you on, then I guess it's worth it.

 

[Kalamos]

The catch being that few people actually buy clips - or admit to - and none could refute WnP's point.

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Advice: stay out of clip-related flames.
You don't really want the producers to know if you actually *buy* their stuff, and what your real name might be.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Not unless you have antisocial personality disorder. LOL

Seriously, here's the deal in a nutshell. The full (pay) version of the video shows a woman demanding the scene to stop, and a male tickler who refuses. Halfway through the video, she stops laughing, turns gravely serious, gets furious and screams, curses, and spits. The male repeatedly calls her a bitch, and ignores her demands.

If that turns you on, then I guess it's worth it.

I would be really disgusted by that if that wasn't how she was paid to act. I mean, this isn't a real scenario is it? If it is, it's illegal.

I don't normally watch these tickle clips we have here, so I'd like to think I'm neutral until I see it myself. But I don't think this is something I'd enjoy watching if it's that volital.

 

[MistressValerie1]

I would be really disgusted by that if that wasn't how she was paid to act. I mean, this isn't a real scenario is it? If it is, it's illegal.

I don't normally watch these tickle clips we have here, so I'd like to think I'm neutral until I see it myself. But I don't think this is something I'd enjoy watching if it's that volital.

I agree 100%.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I agree 100%.

What is it that you agree with exactly? That it's illegal and that disgusts you, or that even if it isn't its still disgusting anyway?

I'd imagine watching this video would make me feel uncomfortable, even if it is staged. Its no relief at all to know it would be. Its not rape, but emotionally it feels like it just hearing about it.

 

[Kalamos]

-> Vlad.

That's the point. You *imagine*.
That was WnP's whole winning point.
The producer even *gave* that clip free of charge to a user or two, so they could make an informed opinion up, but most of the involved parties never watched it.

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That's why most of that thread rested on thin air.

One user said: "I think that vid sucks. I'll waste my money so I can tell you it sucks. Ok, I spent my money liberally cause I can print it from my ass, and I can tell you, it sucks big time. Plus he paid minor *****s to do it".

To that, a second user replied: "Woah, dude, hold on there".

And a full flock of bystanders went all "Oooh, that's grim" without ever giving a peek to it, or admitting to.

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Pointless.

 

[wendyandpeter]

I would be really disgusted by that if that wasn't how she was paid to act. I mean, this isn't a real scenario is it? If it is, it's illegal.

We don't KNOW what the agreement was, whether anything was signed, whether anyone was paid. I do know that she was out-of-control furious, and that leads me to conclude that she certainly wasn't acting. And of course the chances are that making that kind of film is illegal wherever in SE Asia the video was shot, so that gives any participant zero recourse unless she wants to incriminate herself.

I don't normally watch these tickle clips we have here, so I'd like to think I'm neutral until I see it myself. But I don't think this is something I'd enjoy watching if it's that volital.

This video was the only one I've ever deleted immediately after watching it one time. I have dozens of clips and full length vids on my hard drive, but I didn't want anything to do with that video.