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For a tickling forum we sure do bitch/hate a lot.

It's because we've gotten to know each other and realized we have much to share outside of it.


Indeed.When i talk to my friends here,the forum and tickling are seldom mentioned.I cherish the people i have gotten to know here,and i'm sure had we met outside the confines of the TMF we would still have become friends.
 
Well spoken!

I do believe that this is a part of it. When certain of us become...ok...known..."names"....whatever...that carries with it a sorta perceived persona. People see what they want to from "CrystalLight" or "Dave2112" or "Affectionate Dan" without realizing that Jo, Dave and Dan are real people who choose what to put forth, what to show.

When those names become humanized, it can be difficult for many to understand that we have many facets beyond tickling. Sometimes we have a bad day and show that emotion. Sometimes we feel goofy and jjust wanna do stupid shit....and people can misundderstand intentions. There are those of us who really put ourselves out there....Moderators, seriously contributing members like yourself, producers, artists and writers...whatever....and we wind up with a certain "image" in the minds of other people. When we break out of that and show our humanity...it can throw people.

Interesting thread and topic. I hope this winds up doing some good for all of us.

I completely agree. It's the common interest that gets us in the same place...but it's what comes after that keeps us here. The clips and images could be taken away tomorrow and I'd still be a part of this.

There are a lot of people like that for me here. When the talk or interaction is about tickling or any shared fetish, it is very very good. We can't lose sight of that, either. We came here for a reason, and to find others to share in that is important and great.

I liken it to say....a VFW. Ok, all the people there have service in the military in common...what brought them there. But, they'll go and drink and talk about football, politics, thier families....it's not a 24/7 conversation about war or something. But if that topic DOES come up...you KNOW you're in a place where EVERYONE else gets what you're saying, because it's not just you.

The TMF is like that. It's a central meeting place for a lot of us. A place where we found each other for one reason, but continue for all the others. And people need to start realizing that all of us are complete individuals and accept each others strengths, flaws, problems, successes and even our faults.
Fanfuckingtastic insight, sir! I tip my proverbial hat to you!
 
Lawn work awaits my time, so I`ll get right to the point. Crystal, read over again the entire thread in Tickling Discussion started by Iris and tell us in all honesty that you were not the main reason that thread turned into yet another online pissing match. First off, you got overly defensive about the dreaded word "clique." You then backed one of the posters into a corner and twisted some of her words until she blew a gasket and then she and others came out swinging. I find you to be a very intellegent young lady, so you should know better than to be so confrontational. Simply know when to back off a little, and not be declared the winner of every disagreement that goes on in this forum. You`re smarter that that. :smilestar

It takes two to tango in those situations. It's not quaint to act naive.

She doesn't have to back off. Nobody does. Nothing that went down in that thread was over this imaginary line.

I came by my own accord, and will do so continually. And as a confrontational person who is sick of people who are so weak of vertebra getting into pissing contests and then ambling out the backdoor because they are too cowardly to face the firing squad...well...I don't want her to "back off a little".

I don't want people to.

Doing so is repression.
 
Yes we are a tickling forum, but like Jeff says...we are a forum...

We are represented here by people from all walks of life....rich, poor, and what have you...

Put this many people together in any social group and you get those that naturally bond, those that couldn't care less about it, and those that really want to but aren't sure enough of themselves or do not know how to go about it.....thus they lash out, it gets them attention, they feel they have succeeded in some way...or they lurk until something strikes them and they respond...

It is up to all of us to try and understand where people are coming from when they are negative and try nOT to be on the defensive....we need to see the other side even though we may not understand it, and try to stay on course and make friends and interact in our own way and not slip into arguments that can easily be avoided....

sigh and move on and hope for the best...if we dont give in to the desire to fight back things may eventually change...it does happen here quite often....😎
 
Boredom maybe? People with too much time on their hands?

Then again, maybe it's the fact that being here, admitting to being "one of us" involves exposing a previously private part of yourself, leaving yourself vulnerable. I don't personally perceive it as a weakness (I'm Italian, what ya see is what ya get. We wear our hearts on our sleeves) but I can see how those raised more traditionally might. Opening yourself up like that is...maybe uncomfortable for some people and they overcompensate by over reacting when something strikes a nerve or hits too close to home. Getting angry is so much easier than saying, "I feel hurt" or "I'm afraid"...
XOXO
 
Its just the nature of the beast. it is what it is.

I have friends that I enjoy, and I don't usually involve myself publicly in petty squabbles.
I do notice that certain members like to mix it up in public, but this is not new. I barely raise an eyebrow now when I see a bunch of nonsense from the same posters disagreeing with each other.
I often predict with some accuracy which direction a thread will take based on who is taking part in it.
The only time I really get interested in a dispute is when people who are usually pleasant become irked, and post about their feelings about a matter. This is always surprising, and to me it is noteworthy. I will often pm whoever the member is, and lend support, or a kind word.
 
It takes two to tango in those situations.

And one to lead. Some of us can fight fire with fire all day, but why light the match? Why pretend there's always equal blame to everything? There's not.

The tango analogy suggests that each active participant has equal blame, and therefore the one that disengages should be the less blamed, but why should they disengage? Especially if they weren't the initiator in the first place? Wouldn't that be like the backing down you disdain?:

...as a confrontational person who is sick of people who are so weak of vertebra getting into pissing contests and then ambling out the backdoor because they are too cowardly to face the firing squad...



I don't want people to.

Doing so is repression.

But I don't think people want a constant state of war, here, either. I'll admit for myself that there are some times when my measure of civility and typical reserve doesn't equal my honesty, but I wouldn't consider it a virtue, either, when the goal is to have a place that you and everyone else can enjoy.

I can't say "stop fighting". No one's going to. I'm not going to when I think it's justified. But exercise some thought before you say things. Try not to provoke, try not to make insinuations, try not to instigate or intitiate hostilities. And when you're wrong, try to own that.

Am I perfect in these things myself? No. But I'm always working on it. I hope others are as well.
 
I think Shem said it best a long time ago, though i'm not sure if it was a conversation or in a post.

"Basically the only thing that brings us together is the interest in tickling. Other then that, many people have little to anything in common." Now, thats not the exact quote, but that is the jist of it, and i agree. We havepeople from all walks of life with different points of view. Because of that, we are going to always have conflict to some level. Are we a tickling forum? Sure, but that doesn;t stop us from expressing our views and opinions about any number of things that are not tickling related, and this can cause conflict between varying members.
 
As to the central question, it's pretty simple. The anonymity of the computer screen gives those who desire to bitch and hate what they feel is free reign to do so. In the time I've been here, I have countless times thought, "oh, they'd NEVER say that if they were standing next to the person". Add to that the often highly sexualized atmosphere of the forum itself -- there's nudity right on the front forum screen -- and things get even more highly charged. Of course, other, non-sexual, forums also produce this type of vitriol, and in even greater amounts. Visit any NFL football discussion forum to see what I mean.

In addition, there are so many psychoses, neuroses, and other -oses around here, that someone is bound (wink) to have their knickers in a twist at any given time. The amount of attention-seeking behavior and needy behavior on both sides of the gender "aisle" in this forum could give several therapists lucrative careers. The amount of childish, spoiled, objectifying, "I want what I want and I want it NOW" behavior begs for decade-long timeouts.

But, it is what it is, and I enjoy my time here. It's not like this behavior is unique to this forum. What brings a lot of it out is the substitution of "this forum" for "life". I have personal knowledge of this, as pogo.com -- a gamesite -- was "life" for me for a few troubled years. I'm glad I'm out of *that* period, for sure! I'd advise some introspection for many here on that issue.

Morph
 
As many have already stated we all come from different walks of life. I come because I like interacting with other people on interests we share.

Honestly most of the time when I talk to real people here it is about life and not tickling. Tickling is the interest I came onto this site for, but community and conversation is why I enjoy coming back.

Seriously we all need to get over this "clique" aspect. The people who are often targeted just happen to be friends, and just happen to have a lot to do with the site because they get involved. I do not believe there really is a clique because I oftentimes interact with these people in some way and am never asked to stop. Real cliques keep people out and at TMF I have yet to see that happen.

The day that someone is told to stay out that is the day that real problems will start, but until then people need to stop.

If you want people to talk to you, talk to them. Post things, go to the chatrooms, listen to the radio, etc..etc.. There are a vast amount of ways to become one of those who frequent here. It is not a special out of reach thing that people can not accomplish. If you are the type to get involved then just do it and quit your whining and pettiness.
 
For many people on any forum it's a way of proving that they're in some way better than someone else. It can be because in their own 'real' social circles they are not as valued as they'd wish, and these forums become an outlet for their grievances. They manifest into posts/threads which they perceive to elevate them above others in terms of 'who knows more' or 'who can cite the most sources' in order to win an argument/debate. They also appear as more normal outbursts - obvious nasty posts for example. In each case, they can cause hate in others as a response to a perceived hate through the content of their posts, which is transferred through their own posts onto this forum.

People just need to realise that this isn't their life; it's just binary. Lighten up, and get out more often.
 
Love starts at home. Give it to get it.

Thanks, Capnmad! I totally agree with that statement. I suppose that you may have pinpointed the basis for all of the clique arguements. Those perceived as being part of a clique are those who have figured that very thing out all on their own. 🙂

Those who choose not to follow that when posting will probably always wonder why they are not treated the same as those who do. I for one welcome anyone who is willing to recognize that I am human and have feelings, whether we agree on a topic or not. Some come from different generations or cultures and may have a different posting style. Take a moment to see behind that to the meaning behind what they have to say, and you may find that they are indeed good people who do not deserve to be trashed just because of what words they choose.
 
I bitch alot because i don't get enough fiber... the end..


one problem solved next
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We have a portion dedicated to ticklish celebrities, which is basically a hub to gather those that are interested into sending countless e-mails or whatever to random people to find out if they are ticklish. The conversation is just part of it Crystal, but you hit the nail on the head.

As a guy that played a major part in the growth of that area of this forum (and been with that group of friends for over 10 years), and also as a guy that has never sent one of said emails, it may interest you to know that we kinda played a part in the growth here. Some of the biggest pioneers of TMF were friends with me long before there was a TMF, and the common link was the mainstream scenes that were being distributed. Hell, even back before Psycho's Tickle Universe, we were all contributing to Tickletown's list, Max Speer, AMT, etc. For some reason, the last few times I seen you reference that group of my friends, you type about it with disdain, like it makes your mouth taste like ass to even speak of it. But Im glad you brought it up again, because you proved the point Im about to make.

I agree with Dave; I am a member of about 20 boards for sports, adult performers, IT professionals, foot fetishism, another tickling board, etc. And this place has the most drama and bickering of all of them combined. Im not saying that to be mean spirited, because I have lifelong friends here I would never ever want to lose. But it is what it is; the fact that this is the 2nd or 3rd "why is there some much whining here" thread in about two months is a huge indicator.

And I think one of the reasons for that has always been the inability to live and let live. Foot tickling versus upperbody. Foot people versus tickling people. Who does the best bondage? Who doesnt know fuck all about bondage? People into ticklish celebrities versus people that think they are all creepy fucks. Which race is more ticklish? Which sex is more ticklish? Is this really porn? Is paying for tickling sessions prostitution? The P&R forum period. Why are there cliques? Is there really cliques? Is tickling wierd? Why arent we accepted? Are we accepted?

And thats just the tip of the iceberg...i could do this for another hour. I have never witnessed another fetish site that spends one half of the day wondering why they arent accepting....and the the rest of the day not accepting everyone else. Its like there is this undisclosed mission to make sure everyone is accepted here...and then make everyone feel like shit because they dont belong once they get in. And Im not suggesting that everyone is like that, but enough people are that its noticeable. And if you dont believe me, use the search function...there are threads proving this point every where. Its like a gang of self assumed outcasts have decided to outcast others.

The mere fact that this site has almost 50 sub forums (if not more) shows that. You can give me the explanation for having that many sub forums all day, but I have, never, ever seen a community that needs this much separation from each other. And while this group is big...I was a member of a foot fetish group with more numbers than this....and we didnt have nearly as much going on in the way of sub categories. I dont know how the mods do it (God bless them).

Crystal, I gave this advice to someone once before that was having some issues with the climate of TMF....you can take it for what its worth. Once you get past the clips, the pics, the threads, the bullshit....its a message board. I say get the contact info from all of the people you care about and keep it up to date (IMs, phone numbers, email, etc.). And when the place gets too much, and it does from time to time....quit posting. Keep in contact with your friends through another method. When you are ready to return, come back. Dont post goodbye threads or Im back threads...just come and go as you wish. Thats the great thing about most of these communities, especially this one:

Most of us all knew each other before TMF. So we dont need TMF to be a community. However, the TMF is a site. It requires the community to live. Too many people depend on the TMF, when in reality, it should be the other way around. I think that gets lost in the day to day here at times.
 
Lawn work awaits my time, so I`ll get right to the point. Crystal, read over again the entire thread in Tickling Discussion started by Iris and tell us in all honesty that you were not the main reason that thread turned into yet another online pissing match. First off, you got overly defensive about the dreaded word "clique." You then backed one of the posters into a corner and twisted some of her words until she blew a gasket and then she and others came out swinging. I find you to be a very intellegent young lady, so you should know better than to be so confrontational. Simply know when to back off a little, and not be declared the winner of every disagreement that goes on in this forum. You`re smarter that that. :smilestar

My original post to that thread was used by means of making light of a clearly hostile topic.

My response was met by a potential snark and opinionated response, no problems.

I responded with my own opinion on what I see from this community and clearly wasn't regarded as what the poster wanted to see. Bait was laid for me and due to the fact that I didn't bite clearly made the poster frustrated. They allowed their own personal quest to infuriate them in the end. I made sure to stick to what was being asked and not lash at the posters.

I think the frustrating aspect was because I didn't fill the thread with flame which I'm sure many were waiting for. However, because I didn't walk on eggshells around the questions being posed to me doesn't mean that I had any involvment in some pissing match.

I was posting just as they.

I completely agree. It's the common interest that gets us in the same place...but it's what comes after that keeps us here. The clips and images could be taken away tomorrow and I'd still be a part of this.

Agreed.

....without tickling even coming up. It's because we've gotten to know each other and realized we have much to share outside of it.

Yes. And, it's not in any way a slight to those that don't yet feel comfortable or just won't ever be.. it's an awareness being spoken that we share one common interest, but we have different ways of going through a forum.

For those that don't feel comfortable and almost get a little skeeved at seeing people get along well and even develop relationships further then friendship; We can all not get along all the time, but openly judging folks by smashing at them isn't fair either. On both grounds.


I guess you just have to take things as a whole and not become short-sighted in what the term and concept "community" is really about. I think people can have the misconception that if you spend a lot of time here, you must be obsessed with your fetish....but in fact, we spend a lot of time here because of the PEOPLE....and ALL of the things that make those people important to us.

Exactly. Great points.

And as I mentioned above, if it's just not a capable grasp for you to obtain then let it lie.




I agree completely. It is only very recently decided to approach TMF with a sense of community rather than someone who is simply out to get his jack on. And this site has those resources, but nothing is as enthralling is discussion with people. It's the pushing of your personal boundaries, your limits, and also it makes you more comfortable with who you are inherently.

Agreed.

Without interaction, especially considering this fetish, it could hold possibility of running you and controlling you.. not for all, but for many.

And for those that do choose to interact do so for many different reasons.


Drama will always be there, and drama is a wonderful tool at times...when it is necessary. Those who cannot stand up under their own power, or need the constant support of others to make their life complete...they need not apply, for they are leeches.

It may seem weird, but at the same time, I think it is completely natural.

Makes sense. It's a world inside a world almost.

I suppose I agree with the Drama aspect, it opens up the chance to drop walls and partake in conversation that could potentially assist if applied correctly.

As to the central question, it's pretty simple. The anonymity of the computer screen gives those who desire to bitch and hate what they feel is free reign to do so. In the time I've been here, I have countless times thought, "oh, they'd NEVER say that if they were standing next to the person". Add to that the often highly sexualized atmosphere of the forum itself -- there's nudity right on the front forum screen -- and things get even more highly charged. Of course, other, non-sexual, forums also produce this type of vitriol, and in even greater amounts. Visit any NFL football discussion forum to see what I mean.

In addition, there are so many psychoses, neuroses, and other -oses around here, that someone is bound (wink) to have their knickers in a twist at any given time. The amount of attention-seeking behavior and needy behavior on both sides of the gender "aisle" in this forum could give several therapists lucrative careers. The amount of childish, spoiled, objectifying, "I want what I want and I want it NOW" behavior begs for decade-long timeouts.

I have nothing to add to this particular quote. Wanted to acknowledge it for being a good post.

Thanks.
 
It is human nature to complain. Jeff gave us a General Discussion subforum, so now we can bitch and whine about all aspects of our life instead of just lack of tickling or bad clips.
 
It takes two to tango in those situations. It's not quaint to act naive.

She doesn't have to back off. Nobody does. Nothing that went down in that thread was over this imaginary line.

I came by my own accord, and will do so continually. And as a confrontational person who is sick of people who are so weak of vertebra getting into pissing contests and then ambling out the backdoor because they are too cowardly to face the firing squad...well...I don't want her to "back off a little".

I don't want people to.

Doing so is repression.


hmmm....no doubt you are bitter from all the "kick me" signs taped to your back in elementary school.:xlime: Lighten up, Francis. Its just a tickling forum.
 
hmmm....no doubt you are bitter from all the "kick me" signs taped to your back in elementary school.:xlime: Lighten up, Francis. Its just a tickling forum.

I never exactly had a problem with defending myself on the school playground.

But thanks for playing.
 
I think it all boils down to one major point. All of us have a love of tickling in common. But what else? You'll be hard-pressed to find two people that completely agree on everything. It's these personality clashes that cause the problems. I suppose the anonymity of the internet makes it easier for folks to air grievances. Whether or not they should is a totally different story.
 
Damned fine perspectives

Ya lit up another good discourse, darlin'. Props.

There's a lotta complex to the subject. It's also really simple.

We're people.

People, in large mobs like this, ESPECIALLY with this degree of (misperceived) anonymity, will behave in ways outside of what they'd to at work, or other large events.

People bitch, though, IRL, all over the place. I hear it alla time.

It's all text, though. When somethin' bites personally, well, that'll rile. Otherwise, it's water off a duck for some, fightin' words for others. For a smaller group, it's an excuse to see passions rise SOMEWHERE. Imagine yer life without passions. This place is the only vent for some. Socially, psychologically, interpersonally.

You get them in the real world, too. Just gotta talk to a mess of 'em out there. If you paid touch to as many, IRL, as we all can do here, you'd see much of the same thing, coast to coast and nation to nation. Seen that coast two coast, and in four nations.

Humanity ain't figured out what faith and philosophy have been tryin' to school for generations. It's all about the love, baby. The rest is ordinary detail, and will persist whether we like it or not.

Fine discussion, and great participation, all.
 
After reading a few more posts, I have a bit more to add.

1. There are a handful of trolls on this forum that walk a tightrope of being a plain asshole and being banned. They are purposely trying to piss people off. Even some of them actually do have tickling fetishes.

2. There are people here that are overprotective of the forum. And most of them are not even mods. If someone says something complaining about the way the forum is run, 5 people jump to Jeff's defense, without him ever even seeing the thread. This can create rifts and and animosity in the way people present their arguments (most likely by being offensive).

3. There are a lot of people with social problems on this forum that find themselves immediately shunned when they try to express themselves and thus become bitter and take a turn for the worse, purposely always having something negative to say.

4. There is a "popular group" of people here. And while they are not exclusive, there is a number of them who all know each other, all joke around together, and generally stick to each other on the forum. They all have each others' back which can be intimidating for a new member wanting to crack into the forum and make friends. It can also be frustrating for someone perusing the forum that sees that one of these "big shots" has said something they want to argue with. Most likely some feel they can't express themselves for fear of a group of people coming down on them for messing with one of their own. Hell there's a bunch of people that believe I have all the mods in the palm of my hand and could wreak havoc on the forum without retribution. If they saw the number of PMs I've gotten from said mods telling me to calm the fuck down, they'd know better.

5. It comes down to the fact that on the internet everyone seems to magnify a certain part of their personality, or create a different one entirely. I guarantee you that Venray is occasionally serious, I am actually sometimes shy, AffectionateDan is not a bear, and Myriads is a human being. But the internet makes you portray yourself in a certain way because you have little to no inhibitions. So this can be good in a way that someone nervous about having a tickling fetish can open up and express themselves, or it can be bad in a way that someone can be bored and shake up the forum with no regard for anyone since once they're banned, they'll just create a new screen name.

6. Everyone is different. There are people here of different generations, cultures, countries, backgrounds, colors, and upbringing. Humor and tone is sometimes hard to read and many people take offense to things not meant to be offensive. And so many people on here find it easier to argue than back down and apologize for misunderstandings or even when they are actually wrong. It's going to happen in a place like this.

To be honest, I enjoy a good argument. I tread a bit more carefully in heated threads than I used to, but a good argument is good entertainment and I think I'd have less to say if people weren't getting under each others' skin every now and then.

 
I've read through all of this, and there's something nipping at the edges. This way some people have of always needing to tell others what's "wrong" with them. For instance...we have a thread of honest discussion and someone has to come along with "Well, in this other thread...you did this...and then you did that..."

Seems to happen a lot. It's almost like...and this is prety much just reiterating what a lot of posts to this have said but adding to it....that we have our personas and people have a need to make them what they want to be...and God forbid you step out of your role.

Ok, I know this is really coming out of left field, but it's a kinda raw day for me, and screw it. I really wih people would simply aceept the faults of others and stop trying to always feel they have to expose them...or make posts about what people did "wrong" and such. And...this is even within the circles of friends we all have.

Ok, I have many friends here, and a few that are extremely close...people I could not imagine my life without. And, of course, every one of them has some trait or another that has the potential to annoy the fuck out of me. But, rather than trying to "change" it, or come up with a hundred reasons why it's there and what should be done about it, I try to just accept it. Understand that "Hey, he's my friend and that's just the way he is"...."She's deeply important to me, so I can take that with the good parts and still feel that closeness".

Yeah, I know this one's going off a bit...but as I'm typing, it's just really starting to hit me, and to be honest....make me a bit hostile. This is one of the things I do that I catch a lot of shit for, except from those who know my tendencies and accept them anyway....just letting what's at the surface come up and deal with it on the spot rather than overthinking it. Just sorta letting it flow.

So, what's the fucking point, Dave? Ok...why can't we all just see these things in each other....stop trying to think everyone around here has to be fucking perfect or the way WE want them to be in order to get along? I have friend X who has a bad habit of speaking for other people....friend Y who can't seem to let things go, even if they're innocuous....friend Z who often will overanalyze things about me rather than just see the emotional side....and you know what? I could fucking care less. Because X has been there for me when no one else was.....Y is someone who's changed my life for the better and Z is someone I can always depend on to help me see another side of things when I'm not seeing it.

So, rather than popping all over the place calling each other out about posts made, or arguements started or specific things said....why can't we just say "You know....that's the way he/she is and it's ok..." rather than always trying to fucking change people?

This is how I can always tell who my own real friends are. I've never been one to run from my faults, so I'll put my neck on the block here, screw it. Example: I often have a habit of letting my attempts at ascerbic humor go too far and wind up making jokes or something that are offensive in a certain light, or often just plain wrong and stupid. Those who have taken the time to give a rat's ass about where that comes from just tell me "Dude....bad. You ok? Oh, and by the way.....did you catch the game last night where...." Those that just see "something BAD" from "Dave2112" just can't resist picking it apart, starting an arguement finding 154 ways to say the same goddamn thing about what is a simple thing....and it makes me wonder why. Are people really that quick jujmp on the faults or tendencies of another in order to justify their own self-worth?

I really feel you on this thread, Crystal....and those who've responded with actual insight and not just rehashes of the same old shit. Sorry if this response went off....but there was a lot of stuff simmering below the surface and this just triggered it....but not in a bad way. This is good...more digging into each other and discovering each other as complete people and less posturing and poking at what everyone else does "wrong." Maybe if everyone would take two seconds before posting something about another person...take an honest look in thier own fucking personal mirror and see where they're not so goddamn perfect...and wonder if they'd like to be ripped over every thing they do like many people who put themselves out there find themselves having happen over and over and over and over.....then just maybe we'd all start to realize that we DO have a lot of common ground and that clinging to that is far more important that getting a fucking boner proving how much better you are than someone else and having to publically show that by tearing down another person. It's fucking pathetic.

Again, sorry....it's one of my things. Emotions are there...a trigger comes along....I respond and let it flow. Better than leting it eat at you in order to prove something.

Whew....ok....vent over. Feel much better.....

....so.....two guys walk into a bar and once of them orders a drink....

:triangle:
 
people are always going to be people, even on a tickling forum. 🙂

Yes, and among any large enough group of people, some are going feel slighted for not getting enough attention from the group. It is inevitable since some posts will get lots of responses and others will quickly sink from page one and vanish from sight.

After reading a few more posts, I have a bit more to add.

6. Everyone is different. There are people here of different generations, cultures, countries, backgrounds, colors, and upbringing. Humor and tone is sometimes hard to read and many people take offense to things not meant to be offensive. And so many people on here find it easier to argue than back down and apologize for misunderstandings or even when they are actually wrong. It's going to happen in a place like this.


A little tolerance of those differences goes a long way. Too bad tolerance is sometimes in short supply.
 
Just forgot to add something.

You know....rather than knocking on people who make threads like this and actually try and dig at each other and bring out our inner selves to each other....maybe we should be thankful that those people care enough about the folks in this community to do it in the first place. You wanna participate, do it. You don't....then don't.

But if you don't....let those who do have it...without trying to shoot it down as "wrong".

'Nuff said.
 
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