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More non-consensual videos

.......fantasy is fantasy for a reason.......there are some lines that never should be crossed in real life.....that's all I have to say.....
 
Manofmystery said:

I agree with everything you have said and find that the dominace and control and force is the erotic part of this fetish and I believe that it is these ideals that cause me to have this fetish. Having said that, kidnapping an innocent girl and tickling her under her will isn't in my immediate plans, but I've done some pretty good jobs on some girlfriends and hookups who only thought I was tying them up to give them a few spanks.... yeah right.
Dirk Lincoln
 
I would like to apologize for what I am about to say, but I have to be me.

I find to much respect for females, who I believe are far better than us males, than to force them into any situation that they do not truly enjoy. I see tickling as something fun. Taking it beyond fun, for me, is destroy the very reason tickling exists.

While I respect your beliefs, I cannot say that I agree with them.
 
My opinion

Well, here's my tickling philosophy.

"Sadistic in fantasy, playful in reality."
 
Here we go again, indeed.

I don't get off on inflicting pain. I see nothing good in watching someone else suffer. That sounds more like the SS than the TMF.

Do we really need to run this same thread again?
 
Manofmystery said:
The woman has no idea she is going to be tickled, and has no desire to be. But once she is restrained, what is she going to do about it??

Well...if she's like most women I know, she's going to stop laughing or giving any type of decent reaction, because a large part of being ticklish is being comfortable with the tickler. This has been proven. And eventually she's gonna get loose, at which time you're going to have a serious problem if she's anything like me and the other TMF ladies. You may have to have something sharp removed from someplace deep. Finally, she'll likely never trust you again, because you disrespected her as a person.

Or, perhaps she'll find a way to turn the tables on you, except her kink isn't tickling. Maybe it's hard pinching or biting, or thigh whipping or electricity, or something else that she likes but you don't. Fair is fair, after all, and one good NC turn deserves another, right?

Don't misunderstand, I fully respect and share NC fantasies, but in reality I ask that folks respect each other as fellow humans with rights.

Bella
 
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bella said:


Well...if she's like most women I know, she's going to stop laughing or giving any type of decent reaction, because a large part of being ticklish is being comfortable with the tickler. This has been proven.

Well I've proven it wrong. When a girl is ticklish, if you tickle her, she'll most likely scream and laugh, regardless if she likes it or not. In the cases I've described, I have full confidence that the girl does not fear me and overall knows that I won't hurt her. Its simply, "hey, lets do something cool, lets tie you up and then I'll "F" you..." and then she'll be like, "ok", and then I'll tie her up, go down on her for a bit, then lick her feet to where she'll say "no feet!!" then I go, "why ticklish" then I start tickling her, she goes nuts tells me to stop, like seriously stop, I do it for a few more seconds and then stop, she's pissed, I tell her she has a cute laugh and go down on her some more, she forgets about it while she cums her brains out, and then I "F" her like planned. Ok, so I'm not a Saint but I'm not a crazy madman either and would never hurt anyone. I'm also being completely honest.
Dirk
 
Manofmystery said:
I wanted to make them SUFFER so.

I swore I wasn't going to get involved in this thread, ecspecially after the last one but seeing as everyone attacking you I thought I'd just point out thats it most likley this sentence alone thats getting you the hassles.

If you re-read it, that sentence alone, to yourself you can surley see the problem here.
 
Okay I need two suits here.............

One is the flame-proof one and the others is a doctor's outfit, because this guy seriosly needs one.

Speaking as someone who's seen that NC video by Paradise Vision I can honestly say that (IF it was real) it was a truly sick moment in the industry. I have serious doubts as to the genuineness of the second though. Banking on a hooker not going to the police is one thing, but trying the same thing with someone as professional and independant as an interior designer is quite another. Even given that Gabrielle and "John" have little or no business morals and nearly as little intelligence, that would be one hell of a risk to take!

The thing that bothered me the most about the first video was that IF it was real, the girl would have been genuinely afraid about her safety after they'd finished with her. Given that they were taking steps to make sure no-one heard her screaming and were ignoring her requests for some boundary respecting, she could easilly have believed she'd end up fertilising the flowers or propping up the patio. That's what I find more unforgiveable than the physical assault, which they were certainly guilty of.

Probably the only thing even more wrong than the actual making of the video is when idiots like me make long posts like this and advertise it for them. NCT1 is probably the highest selling video of all time, and threads like this only help that. I'm pretty certain it worked for Yaqi when he was espousing his "$10 per pound" philosophy or whatever it was.
 
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Dirkman said:


Well I've proven it wrong. When a girl is ticklish, if you tickle her, she'll most likely scream and laugh, regardless if she likes it or not. In the cases I've described, I have full confidence that the girl does not fear me and overall knows that I won't hurt her.
Dirk

You haven't proven it wrong, dear. If this girl doesn't fear you as you say and trusts you for whatever reasons, she's comfortable with you. From the stupendously romantic interlude you described 🙄, you're doing and saying a few things that she likes, to make it worth her while to be there. That's an important factor, and quite different from "The laughter is then just a helpless reflex, devoid of any enjoyment at all.", to quote the original poster to whom I was replying.

You'd still have to pay for not listening to the word STOP, but perhaps not quite so harshly :devil:

Bella
 
I didn't do it, it was the video guy!

Manofmystery said:
"Or, perhaps she'll find a way to turn the tables on you, except her kink isn't tickling...."

I dont think I ever indicated any plans to ACT on my desires to make women suffer, DID I?? I'm not stupid enough to do something that would most likely get me put in prison. Nobody is worth me going to jail over. But I can live vicariously through those who are ABLE to do such things, release the videos and get away with it.


Hi there,

I'd like to hear that you'd never do it because it's *wrong* to use someone else's body against their will just for your own pleasure, that people have rights that shouldn't be violated for your entertainment, etc. But if I'm understanding you, (and PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, I'd love to be wrong on this) your only issue is the skin on your own personal heinie. You would rather let someone ELSE behave badly and take the risks while you just sit back and enjoy. You have no issue with someone being touched in a way she truly dislikes, or with a producer giving other tickling producers a bad name by mistreating someone, as long as you personally don't have to deal with any consequenses. And if she gets loose and punches the video producer's lights out, then stops allowing herself to be tied because she no longer trusts people, hey whatever as long as you get a thrill. Um, that's not only unsettling, it's lazy.

Now if you're talking about fantasy material, then I'm all for it. Seriously, I actually prefer such videos (my thing is intense interrogation scenes). But if you're saying you want video producers to lie to women and tie them under false pretenses, then pay them as though that makes up for it...not cool. Shows no respect for the producer or the model in question.

Bella
 
*bouncing up and down, squeaking and pointing at Bella*


Ummmm, ummmmm.....WHAT SHE SAID, WHAT SHE SAID!!! 😀
 
BigJim said:
*bouncing up and down, squeaking and pointing at Bella*

Go ahead and point, but I'll do the bouncing and squeaking; when's NEST again?:bouncybou

Bella
 
non-consensual is way to go

I must admit that I love tickling women if they like it and expect it or not. But there is something even more exciting about a woman who isn't aware of what is going to happen and hates being tickled. I guess it is the power or something. Even on videos I like it better if the girl says she doesn't like it and wants the guy to stop. I once was at a adult shop where you could pay to see a girl through the glass box. If you paid more she would actually go into a small room with you but no sex. So I told this girl that I wanted to play with her feet. She agreed as long as there was not tickling. She said she couldn't stand tickling and has thrown up from extreme tickling. Well I paid her and played with her feet for 10 minutes. Then when there was only 3 minutes left I held her foot in the crook of my arm and went to tickle heaven. She immediately started laughing and screaming and wiggling for me to stop but I just held on to that foot.
Byt the time the owner got me off her she was totally exhausted and of course mad. But it is a great memory for me.
Eric
 
Girls should carry forks.

funny852 said:
So I told this girl that I wanted to play with her feet. She agreed as long as there was not tickling. She said she couldn't stand tickling and has thrown up from extreme tickling. Well I paid her and played with her feet for 10 minutes. Then when there was only 3 minutes left I held her foot in the crook of my arm and went to tickle heaven. She immediately started laughing and screaming and wiggling for me to stop but I just held on to that foot.
Byt the time the owner got me off her she was totally exhausted and of course mad. But it is a great memory for me.
Eric


Hi Eric,

I'm asking this because I honestly find it fascinating, not to pick on you, so please don't take it that way. Why is that a great memory? I'm reading that someone specifically asked you not to do something, told you they might even vomit, and you still did it. She was angry, and the owner had to intervene. You're telling us that you can't be trusted to respect another's boundaries, and you seem proud. Why? :wow:
 
Re: Girls should carry forks.

bella said:



Hi Eric,

I'm asking this because I honestly find it fascinating, not to pick on you, so please don't take it that way. Why is that a great memory? I'm reading that someone specifically asked you not to do something, told you they might even vomit, and you still did it. She was angry, and the owner had to intervene. You're telling us that you can't be trusted to respect another's boundaries, and you seem proud. Why? :wow:

Not only that but he's lucky the owner didn't batter him like a fish. Tosser. 😛
 
Funny852 spewed this from his bowels....

>>So I told this girl that I wanted to play with her feet. She agreed as long as there was not tickling. She said she couldn't stand tickling and has thrown up from extreme tickling. Well I paid her and played with her feet for 10 minutes. Then when there was only 3 minutes left I held her foot in the crook of my arm and went to tickle heaven. She immediately started laughing and screaming and wiggling for me to stop but I just held on to that foot.
Byt the time the owner got me off her she was totally exhausted and of course mad. But it is a great memory for me.<<

Oh, do tell why this is SOOOOOOOOO wonderful? (This ought to be good)

Oh, and Bella, love...drop me an email sometime 🙂
 
Careful Rich, we all know it's vomitorious. But we don't want the thread getting pulled do we?😀
 
Manofmystery said:
I'll tell you why it was a great memory for Funny852. Cause HE got what HE wanted. This is the kind of person I live vicariously through. Good for him. And yes, youre right in what you said. The hell with what anyone wants or what happens to anyone, as long as I "get a thrill", as you put it. Let others take the risks while I sit back and enjoy. At least I'm honest. (shrug)

Um, thank you for sharing Funny's thoughts, I imagine he appreciates it. Be sure to tell us if he does 😛.
 
Manofmystery said:
I'll tell you why it was a great memory for Funny852. Cause HE got what HE wanted. This is the kind of person I live vicariously through. Good for him. And yes, youre right in what you said. The hell with what anyone wants or what happens to anyone, as long as I "get a thrill", as you put it. Let others take the risks while I sit back and enjoy. At least I'm honest. (shrug)

Awwww, that's okay then! 😀 Next time I feel like sex but can't get any because I'm an ugly, uncharismatic bastard, I'll just kidnap some girl, tie her up and rape her. There, that's nice isn't it? I'll even give her a few quid afterwards to make sure she doesn't feel too hard done by shall I?😀 Hell, I may even video tape it. After all I'm sure there's quite a few sick fucks in the world who like watching rape videos. ( I always seem to get e-mails from them, advertising them damn things.🙄 ) So long as I and my happy customers get a thrill from my home made vid, who gives a fuck about what she feels, eh?
 
BigJim said:


Awwww, that's okay then! 😀 Next time I feel like sex but can't get any because I'm an ugly, uncharismatic bastard, I'll just kidnap some girl, tie her up and rape her. There, that's nice isn't it? I'll even give her a few quid afterwards to make sure she doesn't feel too hard done by shall I?😀 Hell, I may even video tape it. After all I'm sure there's quite a few sick fucks in the world who like watching rape videos. ( I always seem to get e-mails from them, advertising them damn things.🙄 ) So long as I and my happy customers get a thrill from my home made vid, who gives a fuck about what she feels, eh?


No no Jim, that's way too much effort-just let someone else do it and live vicariously (this is sooo gonna get pulled)😱 🙄

And you are NOT ugly or uncharismatic; I'll decide whether you're a bastard after you untie me :devil:

bellabrat
 
Man of Mystery spewed from his bowels....

>>While I'm completely amoral and selfish..<<

Sounds right to me, Bubba.

But, I'd use a few stronger terms.
 
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