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[His Divine Shadow]

Maybe your SPAM filter is getting it, HDS. I had that free trial for a spam filter for a month though and my emails still came through. I'm stumped. (no height jokes please)

My email is through my server. It blocks nothing, from Nigerian millionaires to viagra salesman.

 

[Kalamos]

-> Erikasknight

Actually you are completely right.
Sensible people can't deny he's done a great job over TMF and his own gallery.

The only gripe is, moderator responsibility will eat away a fair share of his time and resources, leaving just so much for his artistic endeavours.

I'm sure TT will find a way to conciliate both, maybe setting a sub-mod just for the art galleries.

 

[SheDevil1]

"I never understood why, and I'm not about to listen to others to change my mind."
Well, now we know there's one less open-minded person here.

 

[AphroditeRabbit]

Oh for heavens sake I'm not going to attack you. 🙂

He's a good boy.

 

[Ticklekiller1]

My email is through my server. It blocks nothing, from Nigerian millionaires to viagra salesman.

You never cease to amuse me with your dry sense of humor. I find it quite refreshing.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

-> Erikasknight

Actually you are completely right.
Sensible people can't deny he's done a great job over TMF and his own gallery.

The only gripe is, moderator responsibility will eat away a fair share of his time and resources, leaving just so much for his artistic endeavours.

I'm sure TT will find a way to conciliate both, maybe setting a sub-mod just for the art galleries.

No it wouldn't. The only one who can decide who has time for what is me and which means more, and which is a priority. Trying to shove me off in a corner and giving me a little something just to appease me when I'm capable of full mod status and the time that would take up seems suspicious of you to mention it this way.

I think its very presumptual of you to state how I feel or how this job would affect me. The truth is, the job means more to me than the tickling art. I'm by no means strapped for time, I can still do both, and the overall welfare of the site is far more important to me than drawing some anime chick getting her foot tickled.

If there are some sacrifices, so be it.

 

[Kalamos]

No it wouldn't. The only one who can decide who has time for what is me and which means more, and which is a priority.

I don't decide. Neither you. TT does.

About partial modship, I've been proposed myself for subforum modship, with the possibility of being promoted full mod later.
Is there something different that makes you better than me?

Trying to shove me off in a corner and giving me a little something just to appease me when I'm capable of full mod status and the time that would take up seems suspicious of you to mention it this way.

I never said or implied you should be made a partial mod. You misread my post.
I said somebody else should oversee the art galleries.
But you say you don't care about them too much.

I think its very presumptual of you to state how I feel or how this job would affect me. The truth is, the job means more to me than the tickling art.

I'm sure your fans will be happy to know how much you value "tickling art".

I'm by no means strapped for time, I can still do both, and the overall welfare of the site is far more important to me than drawing some anime chick getting her foot tickled.

Mmm... Interesting point of view.

If there are some sacrifices, so be it.

As long as you are making them, fine with me.


Next time you have a problem with me, please send a PM.
This is no place for petty squabbles.
You are mucking up TT's thread.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I know he does, I'm not suggesting he doesn't.

As for this "proposal" of yours, if you're saying I've been offered the same thing, but for the art section, I have not been informed of it yet. So no, I do not think I'm better than you for said job. Quite frankily, I'd be just as good an RP moderator. My friend ran an RP site with a battle system, and I was left in charge of making sure people stuck to the story and followed the basic guidelines (ie- no god characters, no invincibility, must leave a location before you can be post somewhere else, etc.)

Its actually very stressing, in some ways, more so than regular moderating. You have your job cut out for you.

As for my fans, please don't use that remark to even try and suggest that I think lowly of the subject and therefore lowly of them in their liking it. I was merely saying that to me, I feel the site is more important than MY tickling artwork. I'm not speaking ill of the genre at all. If I didn't like it, I wouldn't draw it.

And as I said, I still have time for both.

As for sacrifices, we'd all be making them. I wouldn't be the only one.

 

[Kalamos]

As for this "proposal" of yours, if you're saying I've been offered the same thing, but for the art section, I have not been informed of it yet.

As I said, you misread my post.

As for my fans, please don't use that remark to even try and suggest that I think lowly of the subject and therefore lowly of them in their liking it. I was merely saying that to me, I feel the site is more important than MY tickling artwork. I'm not speaking ill of the genre at all. If I didn't like it, I wouldn't draw it.

I usually say what I think and think what I say.
You stated that being a mod would be more important than drawing pics.
If forced to choose, you'd probably sacrifice drawing.
What I am saying is: fans of your pics would suffer.

Let's hope new artists will show up and share their art.

As for sacrifices, we'd all be making them. I wouldn't be the only one.

I see no reason to make any.

 

[nessonite1]

I think we're getting a bit carried away with ourselves! I'll see if I can't get hold of TT to get something definate put together so this matter can end finally. It's not an uber-big deal. Just an extra hand here and there. 🙂
Oh yeah...K, I told TT that you and cassandra are ready for the new RPG forum when he is. I guess it's just a matter of waiting for him to have the time to set it up (I dont know whats involved there). I didnt get into the game forum (it grew way too quick for me!) but I hope it works out for ya'll! It seems by post counts anyway to be really popular. 🙂
On a completely seperate note...it's freezing in my room right now!
*turns heater up*

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I know what you're saying, and I know what I'm saying. My fans will not suffer, because again, as I said, I will have the time to do both.

As for new artists, I'd want them coming in regardless of where that left me.

I see this as an effort to keep people from being full mods just yet. And thats what we need, full mods, not ones going off modding their own forums. We're diversifying unnecessarily and putting people to do things in other places we do not need them just yet.

I think this whole thread and the point of it is going off in a different direction now, and is a smoke screen so that TT will not have to make a decision and the current mods will not have to deliberate on their own for a conclusion. I see it as a way to try and give everybody what they want, but not everybody is getting what they want, especially me.

Theres nothing to mod over in the art section it would be a dead-end purpose, and you all know it. So suggesting I go there is strategy on your part because you know that if it means we can be full mods later you'll have more to prove and more chances to prove in modding RP, which might as well just be regular posting and regular issues, just fanciful and made up, whereas I am just watching people upload artwork. How am I working or proving anything there? I'm not. Therefore, in the end, you look more desirable for full modship than I do.

You're job is naturally more important than mine would be. Thats why you suggested I go to the art forum, and you know it. You know your chances are better than mine for the forum you would be serving.

Don't you think I forsaw this as a real possibility? Its more likely to happen this way than any other.


EDIT: We need more general staff overseeing everything, not additional help for one forum that doesn't need it, and another than doens't even exist yet.

 

[nessonite1]

I may be stubborn, but I'm not stupid. My vote also goes to Mistress Valerie. She speaks my language, thinks as I do, and if I do not become a moderator, I have complete faith that she will do what I wanted to do and make the difference I wanted to make, in my place.

Im confused! Didnt you say you wanted Missy Val instead? Anyway...I think this is turning into a debate again and, like TT said, thats not what this thread is for. 😛

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

No, I said that if theres only going to be ONE new moderator, (which she and I, and you agree we need more than one), then yes, if I would not get it, which I will not, then of course my vote goes to her.

However, all of a sudden I come back to see we're talking about people getting mod positions for forums that don't even exist yet, and that IF they can prove themselves there, they get full modship later. And then Kalamos presumes to say I should go to the art section, which isn't what I want and not where I'd be best at.

As I'm saying, isn't this just a way of avoiding the main issue of needing more moderators? We need more than just one. Yes, I support Val, but we need more than just one, and it still hasn't been explained what is to be of the two moderators who are inactive.

The only one here who is confused Ness is me, for not knowing what is going on behind the scenes and what has already been decided. I was under the impression we were looking toward multiple moderators.

 

[nessonite1]

I guess we're on different pages (not unusual for me!). I dont think we need more than one new mod. That would be a pretty dramatic change all at one. I think one new mod is plently and then if we still need more then we'll revisit the idea sometime later.
I wasn't actually suggesting that K become a full mod as a for real right now plan. I just said that having had some experience by then with keeping the RPG forum tidy it would make him a possible candidate down the road if we ever need another.
Maybe Im not too clear sometimes. I need to work on that! 😛

Anyway, one mod is fine for now I think. Things are already calmer now than they were a bit ago. 🙂 I hope TT makes his choice soon, whatever it is. The more time goes by the more chances for misunderstandings and arguments to start!

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I know what your intentions are with him, but how is it fair that he will have something later to make him more desirable as a moderator and he will be a sub-mod until then and none of us are getting that same treatment, those of us wanting to be moderators also?

Why would I need to be sent off to a forum that doesn't need modding? And why is there a need for a screening process of sorts for me? I already have qualifications, and I've already been through this same exact situation before the first time. This is just an intentional delay, and we already know that that Val is the new moderator, so we don't need to hear it from TT's mouth, now do we? The decision has already been made without him having to say a word.

As for not being on the same page, you make it that way by not stating to us all what has happened and that anything has changed at all. We're not to assume when you do or do not support an idea anymore. You changed points of view on us all midway, and thats what has caused this.

The only one I see who benefitted from this at all was Kalamos. Explain that to me, other than that he came up with the idea for the forum first.

So in reality, we have two new moderators, and his position was already secured for him just by suggesting something, before this thread even came about.

What of the two that do nothing? Are they to remain for name's sake? Quite frankily, I can do more work than both of them put together. I'm the only other one that wanted to be a mod and was serious about it.

Mistress Val has her situation resolved, and so does Kalamos.

Where does that leave me? And this is certainly something that will now go to PMs, because like you I do not want an argument either, I can just sense someone wanting to reply to this other than you.

 

[nessonite1]

Actually Kalamos AND cassandra were going to get the RPG forum for ages now. Before any of this came up. And I dont think it was his idea. Was it mine? cassandras? I dont remember exactly. Not important anyway. 😛

Where does it leave you? Beats me, dude. I dont think we need any new mods beyond Missy Val. K was talking abouit the art forum, not me. I dont think we need a mod there any more than you do.
Theres not like some secret plot to get K to be a full mod. I dont even know if he wants to be one or not. Even if he did want to I dont really think we need one. Just another person to keep in mind in the future but thats like way down the road and Im not even really thinking that far right now. 😛
Anyway...this whole mod stuff is taking up way too much time already and creating a lot of hostility. I'd just as soon quit talking about modding altogether for a long long time! It's a pretty simple matter and I hope it's all finalized soon. 🙂
Oh hell it's almost 4am!

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I know theres not some secret plot, give me more credit than that. Let us adjorn to PMs. You have one to respond to.

 

[nessonite1]

Yeah I guess. I dont wanna go back and forth forever though. 🙂 Like I said I think it's pretty well over and I cant wait for the frum to return to the peaceful place we all know and love. 😀

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I'd suggest closing this thread now. Nothing good can come from it any longer. The voting is no longer necessary, and anyone that comes responding to me is most likely going to take a tone with me. And I'm not going to tolerate that by being the nice guy I've been throughout this thread.

 

[nessonite1]

Well I dont think closing it is necessary. I dont think anyone should be saying anything about anyone else's vote as per TT's original requests.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Then I will assume a blind faith that no one will smart mouth me. But if they do, I'm defending myself. Fair?

 

[nessonite1]

Sure, but if anyone has something to say to you (or anyone else) we'd all porefer it if it goes on in PMs.

 

[Kalamos]

Looks like a lot happened after I my previous post.
I feel a couple of misunderstandings slipped through, so I'll recap.

*I* replied to Erikasknight to show *I* wasn't going to object to his post.
I simply explained situation as I saw it, and the sub-modship is a notion *I* mentioned.

Personally I don't want to be mod. It means too many responsibilities, and I'd like to be as carefree and independent as possible.
I am here for the fun, not to keep and eye and watch like an eagle for nighttime flamers.

Before all this ever happened, Cassandra proposed a tickling RPG. It looked like fun.
Initially, she had no need for outside assistance. But after a while she was stranded for a plot - a game plot - so I chimed in, and she liked my story seeds.
House Galthari was an idea of mine. Maxiamorea/Bisanthium was. Aygomen was too.

As time passed, people joined and game got bigger. I chose to ditch my char and turn to setting-design only.
We soon realized that - despite Cassandra's skills at narration and role-play - we still needed mods to move/edit posts and keep game tidy.
You can't be a DM if you can't even keep your forum clean.

So I told her. She was shy about the whole thing, but - as anybody can see from the RPG threads - Ness really liked the idea.
Cassandra was the first natural choice - she runs the game.
She made me co-DM, so I am the second - I "run" the world.

We don't strictly need a forum, but our threads are lost in the Tickling Discussion.
Any time I need to look up a sheet or something, I have to Search for it.

As I said, I would derive no particular pleasure from being made mod.
But I am serious about the RPG and if I am expected to make it run seamlessly, then I need mod powers.
Cassandra and me complement each other: I offer the canvas, she paints it.
But we both could use submod powers to mantain the game.

Ness commented I *could* be promoted to full mod *later*.
As I said, I have no particular interest in full modship: it would be nice, and I'd take it seriously, but I am not actively asking TT to make me mod.

We just need a working RPG forum, so I can upload the pics and background story.
Stuff is getting stale, and I am fed up with this mod nomination thing.


Reg's.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

But the fact is, that this is available to you as a means to prove yourself as moderator if you wished to be one. How is that fair to anyone else, including myself, who, unlike you, wants to be a moderator now, and has experience? Why do I need to be put through the same "test" or "trial" period as you do assuming I was given a similar opportunity? I've already been there and done that, and I passed in the eyes of the staff, but failed in the eyes of the users (those PARTICULAR users).

And its because of that wishy-washyness that I'm stuck in this limbo. Things are not as they should be.

 

[Kalamos]

I'll be blunt.

I don't care about you being a mod. Ask TT and stop pestering me.