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Oh no he didnt...oh yes I did!! (M/M GAY TICKLING!) (NUDITY!)

jj82277 said:
For someone who lies on the side of allowing the lesser mortals the priviklage to speak under the constant monitoring of your superior intillect, It would just serve you to take into account that simple oppinions are not the root of true arguments, But name calling and sarcastic insulting remarks are. so before determining what constitutes an infraction in the holy rule book, you might want to eliminate inflamitory forms of communication from your own posts.

and its too bad that i am not your genre. I know that the free, non kal fanclub, born before 1991 thing isn't your thing.

This is *definitely* my kind of wit. Spot-on, JJ.

I made the mistake of refuting one of kal's proclaimations regarding the sucking of America, and now I can't seem to get him out of my shorts. Well, I guess I critized his attitude toward censorship and free speech also. I think that's what got him permanently lodged in my butt. Now I can't make a comment this friggin site without his majesty having something to say about it -- which sucks, because I'm only into being stalked by women.

On a brighter note, Wendy and I would like to see what the excitement's about reagrding Cheshire's clip. Would it be possible to post a section of it in WMP format (or Real) so that we can at least see what all the hoopla's about? Could some good-natured soul take it upon themselves to do that, please?

Love,

Pete
 
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Will Kalamos rise to the occasion and propel the debate forwards into the unknown once more ?

Will anyone post a section of the clip as a wmv file, so greater numbers of people can see a man's floppy genitalia and tickling horror ?

Will the thread descend into homophobia, not out of any convictions regarding sexual ethics but just for a change of tone ?

Can our protagonists maintain their air of civility without compromising their artistic integrity ?

Or will there be an irrevocable descent into savagery as the realisation that all this is merely the beginning hits home ?

All these questions and more will be answered soon. But you'll only find out if you stay tuned to Bickertheater !
 
Almost certainly.

One can only hope.

Probably not.

All signs point to yes.

See above.

There. All answered. Thus, no reason to stay tuned; may return to dormant state.
 
Welcome! I hoped I could post the high quality version, but the first clip was just a few kbs too large, and I didn't feel like cropping it [takes time! 🙂 ].
 
OK, Wendy and I have now seen the the clip (thank you Kal).

We *are* kind of wondering how come Cheshire said the guy's dick is big. Doesn't look that big to us -- floppy, yes. Big, no. (I think Wendy was disappointed -- LOL)

ANYway ... It was interesting to see a gay tickle clip. Not so different from any other other tickle clip, really. The two guys seemed to be having a lot of fun (good for them 🙂 However, after seeing this clip, I don't see how any guy could talk about tying another guy naked to his bed and tickling him and still think that could be non-sexual. I have to tell ya -- *I'm* seeing sexual. Wendy's seeing sexual. Nothing non-sexual about what's going on in that clip! LOL
 
Well, maybe you equate being naked as sexual. I'm sure nudists wouldn't agree.

When someone says sexual, I'm thinking kissing, caressing, rubbing, genital touching, and things of that nature.

There have been other M/M tickle videos where the people stay clothed.

I wish I had a way to get some of the vids I have into the comp. I have no way to get the vids onto the comp.
 
cellardweller said:
Well, maybe you equate being naked as sexual. I'm sure nudists wouldn't agree.

Cellard, lol --- if you could type that with a straight (pardon the pun) face, more power to ya. I'm sure you could find some blind nudists who would say what's going on in that clip isn't sexual... LOL C'mon man, give us a break. LOL Even the title of the thread is "gay tickling." If it isn't sexual, what the hell's so "gay" about it? LOL
 
Sometimes sex is just about whispering the right words at one's ear. 😉
 
Tickling is inherently erotic (if not technically "sexual") to a tickle fetishist and is suggestive or arousing to many non-fetishists as well, which is why tickling is so often used as flirtation or romantic play even among mainstream people. From my POV, I can barely conceive of any intense, prolonged, focused tickling as being anything other than erotic, even if no intercourse results.
 
Val, neither can anyone else, this is jsut a random series of dillusions. The main advocate of which, not to be reud CD, does have a stake in the assertion that this action is not sexuall.

In all fairness, If i were sitting in a room full of supermodels, and they were all discussing wether or not it would mean anything if they one by one allowed me to tie their feet up, and (plutonically), tickle torture them for hours on end and periodically make them beg for mercy, Then i would exploit the situation and say that it wouldn't be sexuall either.

I think that is just a matter of full disclosure
 
and for the record, I'm even on Michael Jackson's side, but if their were videotapes of him tying these boys up and tickling them, i think that i would have to put his ass right next to mr. peterson
 
MistressValerie said:
Tickling is inherently erotic (if not technically "sexual") to a tickle fetishist and is suggestive or arousing to many non-fetishists as well, which is why tickling is so often used as flirtation or romantic play even among mainstream people. From my POV, I can barely conceive of any intense, prolonged, focused tickling as being anything other than erotic, even if no intercourse results.

This is what I'm saying ;-)

To put it another way -- I cannot image one straight man saying to another, "Hey Phil, instead of going hunting today, why don't you just tie me up naked and tickle me." LOL -- although I *can* see how that would make a pretty awesome gay video -- LOL
 
Oh no.....I was just beginning to be happy about the bigger number of F/M videos around here, and now.....sorry but I rather vomit from this😀
 
Well Wendy&Peter, I posted a vidclip called "Cop Interrogation"....M/M, no nudity.

check it out, and you can decide if it is sexual.

Not saying you're gonna change your mind, but it's a different setting, so that may affect how you see it.
 
cd, come on dawg. lets just be real. you know it is. even the females in the community admit to the fact that prolonged bondage tickling is a direct and sexuall act. are there any other forms of sensual bondage that you would like to purport as being non-sexual.
 
Cheshire_Cat_21 said:
No, nothing else really "sexual".....just a big beefy naked guy writhing and struggling in foot tickling agony with big ol' mister hoo-hoo dilly flopping around....LOL

oh no he didn't! oh yes he did. lol. real funny thread, haven't laughed this hard since i made a joke about having burrito farts in a room of nitro glycerin.

*contemplates on wether to blow bandwith on such a monsterous file in which i will have to unzip and watch*

"Big floppy donkey dick *recieves electric shock* OWW G**DAMNIT THAT HURTS!" -Eric Cartman
 
MistressValerie said:
Tickling is inherently erotic (if not technically "sexual") to a tickle fetishist and is suggestive or arousing to many non-fetishists as well, which is why tickling is so often used as flirtation or romantic play even among mainstream people. From my POV, I can barely conceive of any intense, prolonged, focused tickling as being anything other than erotic, even if no intercourse results.

Those arguments aside...it's not the act specifically that is sexual, but that it is sexual to tickle fetishists. The situation? Yeah, anyone looking at it would probably consider it very sexual, for the fact that the guy is nude. Two men nude in the same room has come to be considered as gay sexual activity. Hell, a guy merely POKING another guy is suspected of being gay these days. I see both points of view. CD is right in stating that just because nudity is present does not make the situation sexual. But the rest of you are right in stating that although it may or may not be meant to be sexual, it seems sexual, and with the tickling present makes it even more so to tickle fetishists, and that is because it's sexual to us.

But even to other people, not just tickle fetishists, I'm sure anything involving bondage would be considered a sexual act of some sort. That's just the way people are I guess.
 
wasn't there a guy somewhere along the line who tried to say that tickling another guys feet got him aroused to have sex with a woman. I don't have the time to search through the threads, but come the *%&% on.
 
Wow.....just.....wow.....did not expect this kind of run-on thread.....okay then, I have a few things to add...(takes a nice big f*cking hit before beginning...) *puff*

.....Okay children....gather around....

I think what we've really come down to here people is not whether or not tickling is sexual but more the difference between men and women. Years ago I ran a controlled experiment where I interviewed a number of ticklephiles and inquiring into the nature of their fondness for it. One pattern that repeated over and over was that most women who were into tickling seem to enjoy it for the sake of it. While many did enjoy it for its sexual aspects, they mainly just enjoyed it as a general past time. Common descriptives used were "complete loss of control" and " exciting". On the other hand most men seemed to have a sexual attraction to tickling that was inescapable; when they were in the presence of tickling, they became aroused.

This really got me looking into conventional pyschology on the difference between man and woman. Right away I'll say the answer that "men are more sexual creatures" is a flat out lie and most any psychologist would agree. Honestly, its just more permissive in the way it adds to the "masculine" condition. I came to a realization that tickling is regularly concieved as a very "feminine" act. It is much more acceptable in public and society in general for two women to tickle each other. It is also accepted in the bible toting nation for a man and woman to tickle each other. Now we get to the topic at hand, a man tickling a man. It is not uncommon among children, this is true, but as they develop the earlier stages of their future sexual identities, the concept of tickling being more equated to a female becomes prevelent and deep rooted. Also, early oppression from parent figures with tickling may result in a repressed longing that emerges later as the brain develops. So what I'm getting at is, unless they are also showing early homosexual tendencies, they will usually equate another boy tickling him as something threatening. Sibling rivalry is another matter entirely. Other variables include "touching" issues resulting from poor relationships with a father figure (didnt hug enough, little to no positive physical contact, etc.) or just conventional society and the gender biased roles it demands of its masses.

My theory is basically that among female society tickling is much more openly accepted between each other. However in male society because of its female conentation and "personal space" issues associated, its usually percieved as an akward, embarassing or even homosexual act.

Of course it is not so terribly uncommon to see older men tickling one another, usually in foreign countries with more relaxed attitudes towards physical contact. This stuff however, is hardly ever sexual. The biggest variable in this equation is how different societies both in and out of the home influence how males and females relate to one another and all aspects of their lives.....imagine how society would have evolved if women showed an early dominance of it......deep....

And for the record this is indeed a very GAY clip. Just listen to the soundtrack....LOL
 
Cheshire_Cat_21 said:
And for the record this is indeed a very GAY clip. Just listen to the soundtrack....LOL

yeah, they were a little low on the testosterone count. lol
 
"Children"?

I'm not sure, but I think I might be offended. I'm sure you didn't *mean* to come off as condescending, Cheshire....
 
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