Perverts on Dailymotion and Youtube uploading tickling clips of very young girls

[ndj101982]

The minors doing "dare" clips are disturbing. You just know an adult sent it to them to tickle each other and/or show their feet.

This is exactly why I think these young girls made these clips. I had audio on and one of the girls in one of those clips said something about a dare. It was with a different person's account another time, but the same concept. There are quite a few accounts out there with these young girls playing tie up and tickle games in their favorites section amongst sexually explicit clips.

Keep in mind also, there’s a good chance some of these accounts are from minors themselves. By the age of thirteen, I was scouring every Playboy/Penthouse/etc. I could get my hands on for any foot or tickle reference. If I was that age today, I would certainly have an account with clips of girls in my demographic and older.


Besides, true pedophiles generally need much more sexually explicit material than a couple of fully dressed kids tickling each other for satisfaction; I wouldn’t loose too much sleep over it.

I thought of that as well, but after the fact. Guess it really depends on the age of the person who owns the account. However, in that case, a minor should not have sexually explicit material in their favorites so technically flagging them wouldn't be a bad thing. The young girls aren't doing anything considered sexual, but the 25 other clips of girls showing their tits in Tickle Central and Tickle Abuse clips in their favorites section are.

 

[ndj101982]

I didn't mean to start this huge debate over morality in this post. My main objective was to bring to everyone's attention that there are people out there who take advantage of the fact that tickling in itself is not considered sexual content, so some 45 year old guy can get away with having 14 year old girls playing tie up and tickle games in his favorites section and it's not considered an issue. Nothing can be done to prove those clips are serving him as a sexual stimuli, despite it being quite obvious of his intent when he also has 30 other sexually explicit bondage and tickle clips included along with the clips of the young girls.

 

[rhiannon]

Generally, porn is defined as something made with "the intent to arouse".

Then I guess those clips wouldn't fall into the porn category as I'm pretty sure the girls didn't make them with "the intent to arouse".

If all the videos of underage kids are taken off the internet....BIG DEAL.

Don't you think that's a little bit overboard?

My main objective was to bring to everyone's attention that there are people out there who take advantage of the fact that tickling in itself is not considered sexual content, so some 45 year old guy can get away with having 14 year old girls playing tie up and tickle games in his favorites section and it's not considered an issue.

Personally I think everyone was aware of that already. Not the first time I see a topic around here. I've also reported several Yahoo users who were making sexual comments about underage girl - SERIOUSLY underage! - in swimsuits.

However, in that case, a minor should not have sexually explicit material in their favorites so technically flagging them wouldn't be a bad thing. The young girls aren't doing anything considered sexual, but the 25 other clips of girls showing their tits in Tickle Central and Tickle Abuse clips in their favorites section are.

Now this raises the question why sexually explicit and non-explicit material can actually be uploaded to the same site! IMHO, it should be strictly divided.

 

[Speedbump]

Pedophiles doing things like 'daring' young girls to tickle each other is better than them going out and finding a young girl to play with themselves.

I think people need to get over all this shit. Who cares what others are beating off to, as long as they're not out doing it themselves?

Now if the video was a young girl being raped and it was put on tape, that's a different story. But the 'tickle dare' shit is harmless.

 

[Phineas]

Then I guess those clips wouldn't fall into the porn category as I'm pretty sure the girls didn't make them with "the intent to arouse".

No, but that's only because they were tricked into doing so. Let's put it this way; the people who request the material are requesting it be made with intent to arouse. If the girls actually knew why it was being requested, they wouldn't be doing it.

Kind of like all the other wild schemes people pull around here. Ir's just extra squicky because kids are involved.

Truthfully, I'm kind of surprised to see you arguing against this, Rhiannon. You're usually on the other side of the fence when it comes to tricking people into gratifying tickle fetishists.

Not that it matters to me one way or another. I just find it curious.

 

[rhiannon]

No, but that's only because they were tricked into doing so.

If that was actually the case, and those videos were actually made upon request as a dare, I think it's fucked up. But if they are just clips of girls taping each other while goofing around without being asked to do so, I don't see the problem with it.

Still, I think the "dare-video-requesters" should be removed. Not necessarily the clips! Plus, I am missing the educational role of the parents to teach kids about behavior on the internet.

 

[Sunriseticklee]

Yea! Education! I can chime in!

I think when it comes to talking to kids about safety online (totally off subject, but I'll come to that in the end), a more active approach is necessary for parents. WATCHING their kids on the computer. Checking the history, the temporary files for inappropriate pictures and such. Using CyberNanny or sites that block inapproriate websites.... Periodically checking their child's Facebook or Myspace. Screw privacy- If you are a parent and they are eating your food, and using your internet and cable- you need to be in the "know".

AND- Although the clips themselves may seem innocent, I agree that reporting the users will not cause much harm. The clips may not be the problem, but the adults who are using them are. Keep in mind that it doesn't stop the watching. It will only stop the collecting and sharing or marking as favorite for awhile.

I guess I need to point out so no one will be confused that it is kinda gross! There is so much adult material out there that I'm good with that, thank you. 😀

Sunny

 

[Oddjob0226]

It is still very unsettling to think of though.

So don't think of it. Really, in daily life, there are bigger, scarier things to worry about.

 

[ndj101982]

So don't think of it. Really, in daily life, there are bigger, scarier things to worry about.

Pervers that jerk off to minors are definitely something to worry about. These scumbags are the same people that try to lure youngsters to their houses to "hang out."

 

[Oddjob0226]

Pervers that jerk off to minors are definitely something to worry about. These scumbags are the same people that try to lure youngsters to their houses to "hang out."

Not really. The TMF has been around for 10 years, longer if you include the various "pre TMF" formats. This place used to be rife with undergae stuff. Some of it put up by major contributors. There was even a link for teenagers on the site to leave the site but still learn safely more about the fetish. Every now and then someone will out themselves about lurking here when - without trickery, of their own will - they were underage.

It was eventually all banned, but not out of some kind of legal or moral outrage s'much. It was figured out that, since pedophiles were the new enemy, if anything illegally underage/sexual could be traced back to the TMF and threaten the hosting company in terms of legal liability then potentially all websites like the TMF would have no home since the hosting companies wouldn't want to run that risk. One bad apple ruining the whole barrel. Kind of why Craigslist no longer has "adult Services" listed after someone adversizing there was killed by a responder - it was a case of nipping a lawsuit in the bud.

And when I think of my old school days tickling exploits fondly, I don't "age" the participants to be older. I think of the exploits just as they were. Horrific, right? And I've been friends with folks on the TMF, attended and hosted gatherings, and yet completely lack a criminal background.

So - in 10 years, has there been any really notable issue with someone on the TMF being involved with illegal kid stuff? Pre- or post- ban? No.

Is this stuff wrong? Sure, I guess. Could it lead to "something" happening somewhere, some time in some part of the world? Yeah, it could. But pervy stuff is happening all over, including homes and churches.

Be aware of it, yes, guard against it...... but frettin' over it seems kind of silly. The "this offends me, let me describe it to you AND here's where you can find it" threads always seem overly alarmist, even disingenuios. (Sorry, not time to spell check!)

Any jerking off with any material, to me, is pervy and scummy and I want no part of it - unless I'm involved.

 

[rhiannon]

Pervers that jerk off to minors are definitely something to worry about. These scumbags are the same people that try to lure youngsters to their houses to "hang out."

Just like Oddjob I really doubt it. There is tons of non-con material on here, stories, clips with pretended stories, and a lot of people jerk off to it. I highly doubt those people are out there kidnapping people to tickle them against their will. Most of the time, a fantasy is just that!

 

[Sandisk444]

I've seen some of these videos you're talking about, first of all i dunno why they'd post it on youtube in the first place. But the worst part is the comments, a bunch of pedos requesting more vids and they do it. The best way to nip this in the ass is to get them to stop uploading the videos, you can always make more accounts.

But either way, it's not very realistic. It's like trying to get rid of anything really, it won't stop for good

 

[ndj101982]

Just like Oddjob I really doubt it. There is tons of non-con material on here, stories, clips with pretended stories, and a lot of people jerk off to it. I highly doubt those people are out there kidnapping people to tickle them against their will. Most of the time, a fantasy is just that!

I think everyone is reading too much into my original concept behind the post. It wasn't to get these people flagged from youtube, or even to report them or try to stop the behavior. I was merely just trying to get opinions from others and if they think it's as fucked up as I do that they would be including minors playing tie up and tickle games in with their other consentual aged girls tickle clips. I don't care if they are reported, nor do I feel like they can be stopped because they can just start new accounts. I just wanted to know if anyone else thought it's as creepy and disturbing as I do.

 

[rhiannon]

Well, how disturbing it is depends on how young those girls actually are. They can't be all that young if they are able to tape each other and uploading the clips at youtube!

 

[ndj101982]

Well, how disturbing it is depends on how young those girls actually are. They can't be all that young if they are able to tape each other and uploading the clips at youtube!

No offense, but you've been nothing but an annoying thorn in my side throughout this entire thread. You INSIST upon your points as if everyone needs to side with you.

 

[rhiannon]

You INSIST upon your points as if everyone needs to side with you.

Of course I insist upon my points. I have an opinion, and as long as nobody says anything to convince me otherwise, I will stay with that opinion. If people side with me or not depends on them. But to be honest, if everyone sided with me, that would be pretty boring - if there's only one opinion, there is no discussion!

 

[Cosquillero22]

a thread made for rhiannon? ;-)

 

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rhiannon has seemed like a very annoying person since I've noticed her posting, but I agree with her in this thread.

 

[C.A.B.]

I find Rhiannon's posts highly erotic with the intent to arouse. Rhiannon is Pornography. 😉

BOOM, BABY!

 

[rhiannon]

rhiannon has seemed like a very annoying person since I've noticed her posting

And once again did I fulfill my mission. 😉

but I agree with her in this thread

Always good to know that there are people around who don't base opinions on sympathy!

I find Rhiannon's posts highly erotic with the intent to arouse. Rhiannon is Pornography.

Damn, how did you figure me out!? 🙂

 

[Cosquillero22]

rhiannon has seemed like a very annoying person since I've noticed her posting, but I agree with her in this thread.

I also agree with her here (at least to a certain degree). I was just joking about the kind of topic, seeing her here and her way of bringing up arguments ;-)

But back to the topic: It is a difficult matter, which we all should watch with some caution. For me, a young girl or boy tickled is far away from being a pornographic act. Still, if several factors (sexual arousement of the tickler, exploiting the victim due to lack of awareness what is happening, tickling against the will of the victim) come together, it can turn into something close to abuse (though there is no nudity). In addition to that, we must not forget that seeing this kind of videos, we don't know nothing about the conditions it was made in (and what happened before and after). That's why, i would call for not stupidly judging every video where an adolescent is tickled, but avoiding or even reporting suspicious videos.

 

[desperado_flare]

On the other hand, how are you going to prove this clips have a sexual connotation? I'm sure there's more than enough pedophiles out there jacking off to regular family videos of toddlers posted by proud moms!

I agree 100%.

Also, a few points about these "pedophiles": A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to children, not someone who watches fully clothed foot tickling videos of kids, no matter how wrong that seems to us.

The fact that the person in question is also watching other vids with 18+ models further indicates that he isn't a pedophile.

There's no way to stop this, no amount of flagging videos and banning accounts will change that. It isn't illegal, there's no nudity, these aren't pedophiles, rapists or abusers. While it does disturb me that people turn to naive children when there's so much great 18+ material out there, I feel like the absence of actual danger in this situation makes it negligible.

 

[ndj101982]

I would just like to point out that before RHIANON began turning this into a thread that made it seem like I was trying to encourage "taking action," I merely was just asking if anyone else thought it was creepy that a guy would have clips of minors tying each other up and having tickle fights? That was the entire purpose behind my thread. Never, at any point, was it about taking action on these people. If anyone had read what I posted before, I clearly stated that there is no nudity and no sexual action so there is nothing that can be considered wrong, other than it being totally creepy.

 

[stroker]

As i havent seen these clips and have no intererest in doing so I wasnt going to comment but reading the posts their seems to be some pretty loose definitions of the words "child" and "pedophile" How old are these "children " anyway ? To my mind their is a world of difference between someone getting off to a legally determined underage 16 -17 year old and someone who gets aroused by 6-7 year olds.

 

[Fat Bastard]

To my mind their is a world of difference between someone getting off to a legally determined underage 16 -17 year old and someone who gets aroused by 6-7 year olds.

Are you kidding?

The average 12-14 year old these days is a master at recording & uploading clips. And they’re recording everything (along with their even younger sibling & friends) that kids do naturally.

So anyone “interested” in seemingly benign underage content has only to search using the right keywords.