I have to say, I like the light stuff at times, and there are times I like the heavier, more intense tickling as well. My first ever tape, in fact, was the 1st Cal Star tickle tape "Tied and Tickled #1" back in 1986. For it's time, it was intense! The woman was clearly quite ticklish, the guy really got heavy into it & didn't stop tickling to change postions or talk to her (I love verbal teasing, but you don't have to quit tickling to do it!) and this was done at a time when safewords really were not often used. I have fond memories of this video.
>>>>>And as a 'ler, I've been told I'm one of the more ruthless ladies out there. <<<<<
I have seen a video of Bella working on another woman. I have seen pictures of her working on a guy. I saw her 'live' at a NEST a few years ago. The woman is good at what she does!
I have seen a few videos that Kuj has done, including an edited version of one of his sorrority tapes, and a pretty intense video he did some years ago with another woman in a private home, done in costume. He really takes it close to the non-consent gray area, sometimes even going well into it. His videos are indeed worth owning.
Like Bella brings up, an intense session does not have to be completely non consentual. Some great examples I have seen include MTP's "Farrah" tapes, and "Without Conscent" by Fem Feet (the woman actually begins to cry when it is all over, although, from the camera angles, set ups and dialog, I don't think it was truly non consentual - I mean, after the 3rd bondage position and a guy standing there with a video camera, wouldn't the woman have an idea what was gonna happen?)
I am both a 'ler and 'lee, and the first time I went under the ropes, I was definatly tickled to the point of no longer consenting to be in the position I was in. Although I was thankful at the time of the "scene" ending when it did (nothing is so humbling as to scream - not say, but SCREAM "mercy" and mean it) I have always secretly wished that it kept going, beyond my consent and endurance, just to see what lay beyond. I still want to experience this, although I'm a little tougher now. And could I actually tickle someone against their will, seriously and intensly? Well, despite the blow that the better side of my humanity will take, under the right conditions, I believe I could.
There are a few videos out there that actually seem to invole true nonconsentaul tickling..... TJ Productions had one called "Tricked", which I'd love to see. They tickled a model until she used her safe word, and then just kept going. She never shot another video for them. Then there's the controversial video from Foot Paradise, which, again, I have never seen (I think it's called simply "Non-Consent" or some such name). A lot of people have complained about it's content - and it's also one of their biggest sellers. Supposedly it is pretty relentless.
I actually own 2 videos that seem to feature non-consent tickling and a smattering of videos where the ticklee is tickled to the point of unendurance. I must say, although they very much appeal to my sadistic, 'ler side, they are not particularly erotic or interesting. One, believe it or not, comes from Cal-Star. I think it's T&T#5. It involves call girls and a man who pays to tickle them. Well, the final actress obviously is both very ticklish and does NOT like it. She's angry throughout her entire sessions, and her laughter is clearly a forced, against-her-will reaction to stimulus she does not welcome (T&T #7 has a willing 'victim', but there is a short, slightly ugly part where the woman starts laughing from too much relentless tickling and gets very angry, yelling through her laughter. T&T #6 had a woman nearly in tears from unrelenting tickling, too). Also, Bon-Vue's Tickler Girls has one lady getting upset near the end of her ordeal.
But the Second tape that I refer to above is my copy of "Tina's Tickling Terror", by a now defunct company called E. E. LTD. It featured a model who, it certainly seems, knew what she was getting involved with.
However, she had probably never been tied and tickled before, and it shows. Her reactions aren't that great, at least by the benchmark that many of us have, you can bearly even hear her (she's a tiny woman and obviously a heavy smoker). To me the tickling isn't even that heavy, but that's the trick, I guess. This isn't a woman "into" the scene; more likely she's a college kid or stripper who wants to make some extra money. Point is, she isn't into it. This is one of the videos that still gives me a wierd feeling. Why? Well, during her tickling, it reaches a point where all the action stops, the tickler looks a little surprised, and immidiately unties the woman (good for him). At this point, you see what's up. The woman is crying very intensly and clearly the tickling, mild by our standards, was too much for her. She became frustrated and scared. Even though they stopped the tickling, they tried to end the film right there, in some kind of context in accordance of the plot set up. And the woman does go on with the little improvised ending, but crying the whole time, clinging tightly to the tickler. This really was a woman tickled intensely - for her - and when I saw her very real reaction, I felt pretty bad. The nobler part of me is glad I feel bad, and I'm thankful the guy let her go when he realized what was happening. But I'm also fully aware that I have never gotten rid of this tape, and, over time, I have viewed it more than once.... ah, the duality of man.
