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the "baseball only" thread

Looks like people weren't interested in the WS this year ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_y...slug=ap-worldseries-ratings&prov=ap&type=lgns

World Series is lowest-rated ever
October 27, 2005

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Chicago White Sox's first world championship in 88 years was also the lowest-rated World Series ever.

Chicago's four-game sweep of the Houston Astros averaged an 11.1 national rating with a 19 share on Fox. That's down about 7 percent from the previous low, an 11.9 with a 20 share for the 2002 World Series between the Anaheim Angels and the San Francisco Giants.

While the 2002 World Series, which went seven games, rated higher overall, it was only averaging an 11.0 through four games.

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This year was a drop of almost 30 percent from last year's series, in which the Boston Red Sox swept the St. Louis Cardinals for their first title in 86 years. That had a 15.8 rating with a 25 share.

Wednesday night's 1-0 Chicago win had a 13.0 preliminary national rating with a 21 share. It was the highest-rated prime-time show on Fox since the final of ``American Idol'' in May, but still not enough to save the series from being the lowest-rated.

Despite rating so low in comparison to other World Series, the four games of this series were each the highest rated prime-time network programs on their respective nights.
 
Some people on the east coast are reluctant to watch because the games have a good chance of going past midnight.
 
That's true. The White Sox and the Astros also don't appeal to as many fans as do teams like the Red Sox or the Yankees. Plus, this WS was a sweep, so although the games were close, there wasn't as much drama as there would've been had it gone six or seven, or even five, games. But at least it replaced the 2002 WS (which the Angels won) as the lowest-rated ever. 😀
 
I will never forget the 2002 Angels snatching victory from the hated jints. 😛 😛 😛

May the fans of the hated jints always remember that their team led the World Series 3 games to 2, and had a 5-0 lead in game 6, only to lose it all to the Angels. 😀 😀 😀
 
That is my favorite World Series. The Angels coming from behind to win it all (at Anaheim Stadium, no less), and Barry Bonds coming up empty? Priceless. 😀
 
Favorite WS? Gotta be Joe Carter's walk-off homer in Game 6 to win it all against the Phillies in '93 😀 BEDLAM IN TORONTO!!! :woot:

Alas, hasn't been the same round here since :ranty:
 
milagros317 said:
My favorite World Series is 1955, of course. 😀
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Of course, it's the only WS in which the Brooklyn Dodgers won a title. 😀
 
leafstk said:
Favorite WS? Gotta be Joe Carter's walk-off homer in Game 6 to win it all against the Phillies in '93 😀 BEDLAM IN TORONTO!!! :woot:

Alas, hasn't been the same round here since :ranty:
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True story: I was watching TV that day, just channel surfing, and I happened to come across that game. I wasn't into baseball that much at the time, but for some reason I decided to put down the remote, maybe because it was the World Series. I don't remember when I tuned in, but it must've been at almost the end of the game, because the next thing I see is Joe hitting that homer! The fans went crazy. What a great baseball moment for Toronto, back-to-back championships! And look what's happened to the Blue Jays since then. 😛
 
Although I don't remember much of it, my favorite World Series is probably 1982, St Louis defeats Milwaukee (then in the AL) in 7 games. I remember it as being a good series, power vs speed. But mainly its my favorite because it was the 1st World Series I ever watched. I was 9 years old and had never paid much attention to baseball before. And I get nostalgic about stuff like that 😀

But this years World Series has to be my 2nd favorite. Not only cause I'm in Chicago, but also because the White Sox really put on a great show. They showed themselves to be not just a good team in a bad division, as I started to think of them when Cleveland almost caught them late in the season. They showed themselves to be a great team.

As far as the World Series tv ratings: if that great series between the Angels and Milagros's hated jints was the lowest rated series ever until now, well that tells you something. I think a lot of fans lose interest in baseball in the post season if their team isn't in it. And everybody wanted to see last year if the Red Sox would find a way to blow it and reinforce the superstition of a "curse". Same thing will happen if the Cubs ever make the World Series. Ratings will be through the roof. In Chicago you never heard anything about the White Sox being cursed. They were just bad. But I think even in a short 4 game sweep, people who didn't watch missed some great baseball this year.
 
natural tickler said:
Baseball is over, gents, so let's bury this thread until March, then revive it again
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No, it will not be buried. We have to talk about managers and coaches being hired and fired, trades being made, free agents being signed, and contracts being negotiated. 😛
 
Yes, he was a September call-up for the Dodgers in 1997, played for the Dodgers in the beginning of the 1998 season, and was traded to the Reds during that season, a big mistake. 🙁 🙁
 
He had been an assistant to Oakland GM Billy Beane since 1998 when he was hired by McCourt at age 31. DePodesta worked for the Cleveland Indians for three years before joining the A's.

Beane, under tight payrolls restrictions in Oakland, lead the revolutionary change in player evaluation that valued statistics over gut instincts. Author Michael Lewis wrote the 1984 bestseller ``Moneyball'' about Beane's approach to the game, which was adapted by DePodesta.

The technique has been criticized for underestimating the importance of team chemistry.

I always thought players were evaluated by their stats first and foremost. What good is a bunch of guys in a clubhouse who get along great if the team sucks? 😕
 
CQ, I'm sure other baseball (and other sports) fans know more about that than I do, but I think both stats and team chemistry play equal parts in any sport as to how successful a team is. What I'd like to know is what Dodgers fans think about this news. But thanks for your input.
 
While I agree with his philosophy that stats are far more important than the elusive thing called "chemistry", I am glad that DePodesta was fired. In 2004, he decided to dismantle a first place team because it wasn't his, because the players had been acquired by his predesessor. It is OK to have that idea, if you can actually acquire better talent. BUT: He failed to sign free agents or make trades over the winter of 2004/2005 that solved the Dodgers' biggest needs, starting pitching and a slugging first baseman.

I don't blame him for the injuries that the Dodgers suffered in 2005. I do blame him for not getting better starting pitchers, and for not getting a better first baseman than Choi.

I officially announce my availability for the job of General Manager of the Dodgers. 😛
 
My dad said he heard this free agent market is gonna be pretty weak. Paul Konerko is gonna be the best player out of the bunch he said.
 
milagros317 said:
I officially announce my availability for the job of General Manager of the Dodgers. 😛
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If the people in the Dodgers organization are smart, they'll seek you out. 😀
 
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