TMF or TT?

[venray1]

I have been a member of both sites from their beginings and am friends with the founders of each of them along with most of the mods as well...

I find both forums to have their share of friendly talented folks along with a handful of those that like to fight and disrupt those that are connecting in some way....

Ignore that type of stuff and both places have a LOT to offer us, with a lot of friends to be made.....

I am glad that both sites are here and thankful that we lers and lees have a few places where we can go and be ourselves....

Wouldnt ever want to see either forum shut down or compromised in any way...

 

[P[a]pi]

OK, I see I am going to need to keep a close watch on this thread. These things can often turn ugly and into a TT vs TMF flamefest. That's not something I'd like to see. People know why they choose each site, and, as was stated before, each site has its virtues. To each their own.

I am going to let this thread continue, but please, keep it civil.

Duke! You're a mod! Didn't even know haha, I gotta pay more attention to that information.

 

[Hootus1]

I use to go to tmf until I was unable to post anything on the site. Dont know why. so I tend to stay here now.

 

[frylock111]

Both have their merits and flaws, with one not necessarily being any better than the other.

 

[chode]

TMF is more like a clique of 10 to 15 people who mass post nonsense all the time. Anyone new posts that isn't a girl is ignored. And the MTP Jeff isn't what i would call a non biased moderator.

TT is way less hassle, less immaturity, and all in all less assholes/ass kissers.

 

[Dave2112]

Yeah, pretty much that. I could go on about stuff from deep in the inside, but I won't. No point. Publically speaking of these things isn't good and would probably just set me off anyway. But I can agree that the TMF is very exclusive these days. Not in the sense that people aren't generally welcome, but it socially pretty much belongs to a small group. And, you'll probably notice that following this post, the ones that will vocally say it ain't so are comfortably part of it. The moderation is extremely biased, again speaking from deep inside for years, and I'm not gonna even lower myself to talk about the ownership. I don't need to creep myself out today.

But I tend to agree on a "site overall" standpoint that most here seem to point out. TT is more about tickling, fetish and the like (note the greater amount of tickling and fetish related threads to GenDis and the reverse on TMF). TT appreciates its artists, writers and contributors more, regardless of whether they are published or not. A very popular artist and I were having a conversation one time where he said (paraphrased) that the backbone of the tickling community IS the creative folks, while the others talk about it and look for it. Not in a bad way, just the way it is. TT gets that. TMF generally wants you there to create...but let the popular people carry on the conversations, ok? 😉 TT respects its artists and writers and producers...and this is coming from soneone who just got done spending five months fighting with TMF over the copyrights to my own material...to a point where I was flat-out told by Admin that they specifically have a clause in the TOS to keep your material if you decide to remove it. If that's what they want to do, hey...it's their site. But, it doesn't show a lot of respect for the folks who actually fuel the community.

There are a lot of great folks on the TMF, many awesome members who are real-life friends of mine, fans of my works and efforts as I am of theirs. It's pretty much the management and the pet-clique that have drastically altered the site from its original purpose. TT seems to really appreciate its members and those members themselves seem to have a much higher level of respect for one another. I've been involved in an intense discussion recently that would have blown into a shitstorm over there in about ten minutes, but went prety well here.

I just find this site far more comfortable, respectful, inclusive and without the creepy administrative favoritism that kills any site's integrity. And that's what it really comes down to...how a site is run, and how it self-runs. Most of the people on both sites are awesome, but it takes more than that to make a comfortable and inclusive site, especially in a very niche community.

Finally, I agree with Duke...we do need to make sure this thread stays civil. So far so good...and that's why I really like TT. 🙂

 

[TK-411]

I like both, though I'm more active on the TMF. Why? Because it's where I got my start and where I know the larger number of folks. But, I like it here as well. Are there less than enjoyable issues on both from time to time? Yes. That's part of life, I guess. I just try to ignore the BS as much as possible when it arises, steer clear of those few who think so much of themselves that they have no time/consideration for others, refuse to get dragged into personal drama between feuding members and go about my own business.

TT is more about tickling, fetish and the like (note the greater amount of tickling and fetish related threads to GenDis and the reverse on TMF).

For me personally, I post as much, if not more in general discussion areas (on any TK forum) because I enjoy getting to know the entire person rather than simply talking about a single interest. Seeing the same TK topics repeated over and over, often with little or no variation, can get boring after a while. That having been said, I do enjoy both sections on all TK forums.

I've said this before and will undoubtedly say it again. It doesn't have to be either/or. There's nothing wrong with both/and.

Peace, y'all!

 

[Sir Bombers]

But I tend to agree on a "site overall" standpoint that most here seem to point out. TT is more about tickling, fetish and the like (note the greater amount of tickling and fetish related threads to GenDis and the reverse on TMF). TT appreciates its artists, writers and contributors more, regardless of whether they are published or not. A very popular artist and I were having a conversation one time where he said (paraphrased) that the backbone of the tickling community IS the creative folks, while the others talk about it and look for it. Not in a bad way, just the way it is. TT gets that. TMF generally wants you there to create...but let the popular people carry on the conversations, ok? 😉 TT respects its artists and writers and producers...and this is coming from soneone who just got done spending five months fighting with TMF over the copyrights to my own material...to a point where I was flat-out told by Admin that they specifically have a clause in the TOS to keep your material if you decide to remove it. If that's what they want to do, hey...it's their site. But, it doesn't show a lot of respect for the folks who actually fuel the community.

You're absolutely right...

Right about the providers of tickle content and especially right about the people who only talk about it and look for it.

I have no animosity to the TMF, but TT generally does have more appreciation to the providers that fuel the purpose of this fetish and the forum, published or not. To define appreciation for the sake of this post, I find it's when you receive commentary on your work and overall general support to the artist for what they provide for the community.

Look at it from a TK artist's perspective. Most of us aren't even getting a red cent for the stuff that we do, and yet we still provide long hours and hard work just for the love of the community, the least the community can do is show appreciation back. TT does this more showing more support to artists no matter the skill or popularity level. Which is one reason as to why I'm here more often.

This is a problem that is not based on individual subjectivity. This is a real factual problem of the TMF. Popularity should not overshadow the value of creativity.



and seriously, it's no fun when you have a new piece that you just posted having 400+ views but not a single comment... 😉

 

[melanie2]

ah then things have changed..back when i was still going there, stories, artwork etc were appreciated and posted to...and clips also...

 

[chicag0]

Sometimes people have personal problems with other members on places like this. That shouldn't sway their judgment of the website overall. But alas.

Why do these TMF vs TT threads keep popping up anyway? There's like two or three a year it seems. What does it prove? Not really seen one that I can remember like that on TMF. But it has always seemed like TT was in competition with TMF, while TMF doesn't really care one way or another.

I don't know. Are folks here that bitter or something?

 

[Sir Bombers]

Sometimes people have personal problems with other members on places like this. That shouldn't sway their judgment of the website overall. But alas.

Why do these TMF vs TT threads keep popping up anyway? There's like two or three a year it seems. What does it prove? Not really seen one that I can remember like that on TMF. But it has always seemed like TT was in competition with TMF, while TMF doesn't really care one way or another.

I don't know. Are folks here that bitter or something?

Well possibly these topics sprout up more over here because a starter of a thread like this over at the TMF would more than likely be flamed savagely, and all members that support the original poster would receive the same fate... That is a popular reason from many members for the purpose of their migration over to TT.

The fact that an estimate can be made that 2 or 3 of these threads keep popping up a year, and not over at the TMF, really shows the difference of forum ideals and discussion quality in itself.

TT is a sort of "safe haven" for this type discussion I guess... LOL

 

[chicag0]

Well possibly these topics sprout up more over here because a starter of a thread like this over there would more than likely be flamed savagely, and all members that support the original poster would receive the same...

TT is a sort of "safe haven" for this type discussion or something... LOL

Bitter it is then.

 

[Sir Bombers]

Bitter it is then.

Or maybe they just wanna avoid confrontations... 😉

 

[melanie2]

ah yes i have to agree..why this comparison? it's like comparing mydungeonspace to collarme..or fetlife...they each have their uses...and people enjoy whichever forum they feel most comfortable with...

 

[chicag0]

People are protective of these forums. If you were to go to TMF and say you prefer TT, a couple people might say, "Why be here then?"

I haven't read all the responses in this thread, but I've read most of them. All the people responding tend to say they prefer TT over TMF or they like both forums.

If someone were to say they liked TMF better and explained why, I'm sure a few people would get defensive.

 

[TK-411]

it has always seemed like TT was in competition with TMF, while TMF doesn't really care one way or another.

There's always been a bit of back and forth between all of the forums...not just TT & TMF. People will naturally place the greatest amount of loyalty in the one where they feel most at home. The problem is that others sometimes get villainized in the process. Sometimes, there are valid reasons for bad feelings. Other times, not so much.

Initially, when Tony started TT, several of us from the TMF were giving him a hand with things. It was all very friendly. There was no ill will or anything. Other forums began in much the same way. I think a big part of the problem is the belief that there must be a problem in order to start another forum. That isn't necessarily the case. Each has its own benefits and can effectively cater to a specific taste/style.

It's unfortunate that people assume there HAS to be a problem. There are enough real issues anywhere we go without adding immaginary/assumed ones to the mix.

 

[jk666uk]

Sometimes people have personal problems with other members on places like this. That shouldn't sway their judgment of the website overall. But alas.

Why do these TMF vs TT threads keep popping up anyway? There's like two or three a year it seems. What does it prove? Not really seen one that I can remember like that on TMF. But it has always seemed like TT was in competition with TMF, while TMF doesn't really care one way or another.

I don't know. Are folks here that bitter or something?

yeah am that bitter
p.s take a look at this thread
seeing as you can't remember any ?
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=60162&highlight=tickletheater

oh and here the best one take a look at reply 26
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=159430&page=2

 

[chicag0]

There's always been a bit of back and forth between all of the forums...not just TT & TMF. People will naturally place the greatest amount of loyalty in the one where they feel most at home. The problem is that others sometimes get villainized in the process. Sometimes, there are valid reasons for bad feelings. Other times, not so much.

Initially, when Tony started TT, several of us from the TMF were giving him a hand with things. It was all very friendly. There was no ill will or anything. Other forums began in much the same way. I think a big part of the problem is the belief that there must be a problem in order to start another forum. That isn't necessarily the case. Each has its own benefits and can effectively cater to a specific taste/style.

It's unfortunate that people assume there HAS to be a problem. There are enough real issues anywhere we go without adding immaginary/assumed ones to the mix.

I agree, but with the crop up of threads like this on TT mostly, I got the impression that there was some ill will somewhere. I wasn't around when many of these forums got started so I don't know the whole story. I just know these threads tend to do more harm then good.

 

[suelee]

agree

I agree, but with the crop up of threads like this on TT mostly, I got the impression that there was some ill will somewhere. I wasn't around when many of these forums got started so I don't know the whole story. I just know these threads tend to do more harm then good.

I just love both forums what i can't get out of one i can find on the other, lots more with two sites, i have to agree about this thread causing quite a debate, i havn't been here five minuites but i can see it causing more problems than solving any,and if its been raised before why raise it again,isn't that a bad procedure frowned upon or have i missed a trick.

 

[chicag0]

yeah am that bitter
p.s take a look at this thread
seeing as you can't remember any ?
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=60162&highlight=tickletheater

oh and here the best one take a look at reply 26
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=159430&page=2

You got banned. What for, I don't know, but I am sure it was not for your overall charming and pleasant nature. At any rate, your "fuck the TMF" posts are expected because of that.

I saw no flaming of any members in either of the threads. In the 2nd, there were a lot of posts about disliking tickling city, not TT, and response number 26 was just a recount of the things that person had heard about all three websites. Basically, people will talk shit about any of the sites if they are members of other ones.

I think a lot of people are annoyed with ticklingcity because from what I've heard, they're very strict about flaming and will drop the banhammer all over the place if you say something that comes across as mean or whatever. However, then there are threads like this where negative posts are allowed if the posts are about the TMF or NEST or the like.

 

[Steve565]

In so far as I can tell....

TT is friendlier

TMF "gets more done" - probably due to its size

UKTF is better than both 😉

 

[TK-411]

I agree, but with the crop up of threads like this on TT mostly, I got the impression that there was some ill will somewhere. I wasn't around when many of these forums got started so I don't know the whole story. I just know these threads tend to do more harm then good.

There is some ill will. But, as with the flack that crops up on occassion on the TMF and other places, it's mainly a handful of folks who feel wronged. I could be wrong. But, I think that the vast majority of folks here neither know nor spend much energy on the negative stuff...as is the case on the other forums as well.

Threads like this can be used for good if people keep cool heads and clarify things rather than adding to the frey.

However, then there are threads like this where negative posts are allowed if the posts are about the TMF or NEST or the like.

Unfortunately, since their settings only allow things to be viewed by those who are members, most folks won't be able to see that thread. D'oh!

 

[Dave2112]

I don't think that, other than a specific member who got banned, there's any real animosity. Many folks like both sites, and the ones who prefer one pretty much don't care one way or the other about the other one. "Bitterness" has nothing to do with it, at least not from most of the posts I've read on this. Just the fact that the accusations of bitterness and the posts of defensiveness are coming from the same group I predicted in my post should tell you something.

If you like one, enjoy it. If you like the other, enjoy that. If you like both, cool. But, I do agree with Bombers that these creep up once in awhile here because it can be respectfully and truthfully talked about without fear of recrimination if you're not part of a special group. The fact that that doesn't exist here is very important to a lot of people. If these threads creep up, someone wants to talk about it. Let them. Is it hurting anyone? It doesn't seem like it's a "sides" thing until someone makes it a sides thing, and it's only really coming from one direction. Most others are just stating their opinions, which they are entitled to.

 

[chicag0]

I've just noticed there being a trend of "TMF sucks" on here. For the most part, I gather it's because they didn't get enough attention on TMF (i.e. they found it hard to make friends or their threads didn't get a response, etc) which is understandable, or it's because of some other personal issues they had with certain members there. There are people I dislike both there and here, but they don't make up the whole forum for me.

But yeah, people are entitled to their opinion, just as I am entitled to disagree.

Just curious, what should your prediction tell people?

 

[jk666uk]

I've just noticed there being a trend of "TMF sucks" on here. For the most part, I gather it's because they didn't get enough attention on TMF (i.e. they found it hard to make friends or their threads didn't get a response, etc) which is understandable, or it's because of some other personal issues they had with certain members there. There are people I dislike both there and here, but they don't make up the whole forum for me.

But yeah, people are entitled to their opinion, just as I am entitled to disagree.

Just curious, what should your prediction tell people?

its not about getting a enough attention or
their threads are not getting a reply

for me and about 20 other members i know its the moderators over there
and the camwhores and the white knights
posts getting removed , the list goes on

p.s it use to be a great site back in the day