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I didn't see anything saying the "TMF Sucks". Most people fall into either "both are cool" or "TMF? Who cares?"

It's that defensiveness for a website that's the difference, from what I can tell. To answer your question, my tongue-in-cheek "prediction" was basically to show just that. And it did. The only people that are really turning it into an accusation of "The TMF Sucks", which it isn't and was never intended to be, are those that are overly-defensive. Trying to draw others into a useless "debate" that doesn't have to happen. Someone just asked which people prefer. That's it. Sure, you're always gonna have that one person who got banned or something who's gonna have animosity, but who cares? Is it that important to people? It's a couple of freakin' websites.

I really don't want to get drawn into a debate, where one doesn't exist. It's stupid beyond reason.

So, I'm gonna go post about bewbs or something, 'cuz that makes me happy no matter what site I'm on. 🙂 Carry on, have fun guys.
 
Dave2112 said:
I didn't see anything saying the "TMF Sucks". Most people fall into either "both are cool" or "TMF? Who cares?"

It's that defensiveness for a website that's the difference, from what I can tell. To answer your question, my tongue-in-cheek "prediction" was basically to show just that. And it did. The only people that are really turning it into an accusation of "The TMF Sucks", which it isn't and was never intended to be, are those that are overly-defensive. Trying to draw others into a useless "debate" that doesn't have to happen. Someone just asked which people prefer. That's it. Sure, you're always gonna have that one person who got banned or something who's gonna have animosity, but who cares? Is it that important to people? It's a couple of freakin' websites.

I really don't want to get drawn into a debate, where one doesn't exist. It's stupid beyond reason.

So, I'm gonna go post about bewbs or something, 'cuz that makes me happy no matter what site I'm on. 🙂 Carry on, have fun guys.
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I've seen a "To hell with TMF" and also various complaints that I haven't really noticed being a member myself. Being as we are on TT, I don't see a reason for threads like this continuing to crop up when it seems to just become a thread to list complaints about the other websites. Yes, a majority of people like both or don't care, but it usually turns into a pissing contest. No one used the words "TMF Sucks" but some might as well have. I'm not trying to draw anyone into a debate, I'm just tired of seeing these threads come up every few months. I'm not going to change anyones' minds about TMF and no one is going to change mine.

And now that I've posted all I want to say, I guess I can say I don't care too.
 
Yes. The mods on TMF are horrible. I only get to dig my heels in and get on the cases of what many would term the forum *****s over there and have gotten bashed so badly over it that I am scarred for life.

And by scarred for life, I mean made every single person who has ever crossed me on there with an axe to grind look like a tool. Same with over here. White knighting happens here. Artists get respected more here? I got one response to my story here while I received many more over on TMF.

It's completely subjective. I have had more people try to put the breaks on me here than there, and I have been much more in your face there than I have been here. If people think there are sacred cows over there and not here, they are being stupid for the sake of stupidity.
 
The one thing about TT...it can be a bit slow...which is surprising, seeing as there are almost seventy thousand some members...sometimes a thread will stay quiet for days it seems..
 
isabeau said:
The one thing about TT...it can be a bit slow...which is surprising, seeing as there are almost seventy thousand some members...sometimes a thread will stay quiet for days it seems..
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I'd be willing to bet 95% of those accounts are made up of dead, puppet, spam, lurker, or multiple accounts belonging to one person.
 
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AnnieHall said:
I'd be willing to bed 95% of those accounts are made up of dead, puppet, spam, lurker, or multiple accounts belonging to one person.
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You are very wise, Annie Hall.

See how many accounts have made at least 10 posts in the last three months if you want to gauge your active membership.
 
Exactly. You can apply that to any message board or posting forum. The number of "members" never adds up to the actual number of people enjoying the site. Both sites have about a hundred active members. It's just the reality of it.

And...

My BEWBS thread got DELETED!!!!! The Mods here are Nazis!!!! There's no freedom!!!!! What the FUCK, man?!?

Oh wait...I forgot to post it yet.

Ah well.
 
I think the differences between the TMF and TT are mostly based on the 'artistic' crowd. As others have mentioned, the Artist's Pad on here is much more active than the one on the TMF. Also, there's less commercialism here, like the videos I make.

I've also noticed that people who are outcast from major events in the TK community due to being drama-starters and troublemakers tend to go to other boards when their real personality surfaces, trying to escape the heat.
 
ViperGTS19801 said:
I've also noticed that people who are outcast from major events in the TK community due to being drama-starters and troublemakers tend to go to other boards when their real personality surfaces, trying to escape the heat.
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Although that may be true for some, I think many come to smaller boards for a more inclusive atmosphere.
Bigger isn't always better.
 
Rick Tibbler said:
I don't feel that my questionable tastes should have any bearing on my potential admin abilities. :stickout
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I suppose that is logical; heaven knows I have questionable tastes myself. In fact, I'm not certain I'm qualified to continue being an admin. :shock:
 
ViperGTS19801 said:
I think the differences between the TMF and TT are mostly based on the 'artistic' crowd. As others have mentioned, the Artist's Pad on here is much more active than the one on the TMF. Also, there's less commercialism here, like the videos I make.

I've also noticed that people who are outcast from major events in the TK community due to being drama-starters and troublemakers tend to go to other boards when their real personality surfaces, trying to escape the heat.
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Good post, and spot-on. I've been a member of both boards for years, and TT is the best place for tk artists I've ever seen; also this board is much calmer and tranquil; it reminds me of my time living in NYC vs my time living in Vermont, I enjoyed both for very different reasons :cool I do think that Viper has a point, over the years I've seen several folks who were rather badly behaved on the TMF and other boards come here and settle down with the antics, treating others properly and thus finding a happy home here on TT; that's a good thing IMO, it's nice that people can begin again and find peace that way 🙂
 
For me it's like night and day. The TMF sociological landscape is completely entrenched in a clique mentality, much like the caste systems of some middle eastern nations. This "in-crowd" is well protected by the forum administration who of course vehemently deny its existence.

There's rampant censorship in which posts, ideas, art, and even people are deleted on a whim, depending on where the offended sit in the Clique heirarchy.

Tickle Theater on the other hand has no such clique mentality. People are treated as individuals and there is considerably more freedom of expression here. I've never experienced the thuggish geshtapo strong arm scare tactics at Tickle Theater to which I'd become accustomed at the TMF.

Tickle Theater's peaceful tranquil atmosphere promotes artistic expression unlike the TMF's air of Big Brother oppression which breeds constant squabbles, tattling, and finger-pointing.

In short, TT treats its members as adults, whereas the TMF micromanages its members as though they were children.
 
I like both sites. No one site is better than the other. They each provide a home for people in the tickle community. I consider TMF my home mainly because I post more there and have been there for so many years that I'm comfortable there. I visit TT occasionally and don't post very often mainly because I have a hard time interacting with people and am very shy.
 
Drew70 said:
For me it's like night and day. The TMF sociological landscape is completely entrenched in a clique mentality, much like the caste systems of some middle eastern nations. This "in-crowd" is well protected by the forum administration who of course vehemently deny its existence.

There's rampant censorship in which posts, ideas, art, and even people are deleted on a whim, depending on where the offended sit in the Clique heirarchy.

Tickle Theater on the other hand has no such clique mentality. People are treated as individuals and there is considerably more freedom of expression here. I've never experienced the thuggish geshtapo strong arm scare tactics at Tickle Theater to which I'd become accustomed at the TMF.

Tickle Theater's peaceful tranquil atmosphere promotes artistic expression unlike the TMF's air of Big Brother oppression which breeds constant squabbles, tattling, and finger-pointing.

In short, TT treats its members as adults, whereas the TMF micromanages its members as though they were children.
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LOL. You're just still butthurt over being banned for consistent asshattery. Good to see you've learned nothing.

One of the biggest differences between the two sites is that people on the TMF don't feel the need to make threads comparing TT to the TMF - we're focused more on the fetish than silly, petty squabbles that compare one to the other. We're focused on being a tight-knit, inclusive community, and instead of tolerating people who wish to undermine that, the TMF eliminates those cancerous elements that server to do nothing other than cause animosity and start flame wars.

Enjoy some free videos!

Brink of Tears I

Brink of Tears II

Brink of Tears III

Troy: The Chair and the Table

Payback's a Bitch I

Payback's a Bitch II
 
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ViperGTS19801 said:
LOL. You're just still butthurt over being banned for consistent asshattery. Good to see you've learned nothing.

One of the biggest differences between the two sites is that people on the TMF don't feel the need to make threads comparing TT to the TMF - we're focused more on the fetish than silly, petty squabbles that compare one to the other. We're focused on being a tight-knit, inclusive community, and instead of tolerating people who wish to undermine that, the TMF eliminates those cancerous elements that server to do nothing other than cause animosity and start flame wars.

Enjoy some free videos!

Brink of Tears I

Brink of Tears II

Brink of Tears III

Troy: The Chair and the Table

Payback's a Bitch I

Payback's a Bitch II
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Even when those in the tight-knit, inclusive community flame on others?

Or don't necessarily flame, but are in a constant state of undermining others?

Not saying you. I know Venray is quick to the gun to put the kobash on people for doing things he feels are not right and those things sometimes coincide with mitigating members.

Like, let's not put a bow on a pretty face. It's peaches and cream from the group, but there is a steady undercurrent of drama and inner justice. Euphoricy was one of the most productive posters on the forum and had done quite a bit of traveling amongst gatherings. Something happens and suddenly she's been cast out. May she have done something? Sure. If it has to do with relationships, I think the people doing it need to grow up and stop being children or wannabe sugar daddies.

I bring some undo attention to myself, but I am willing to admit that. TMF has a very loose moderation policy which is not as oppressive as people make it out. I know; I've gone in directions which I figured would have me eating a ban, at the very least a vacation. Maybe I'm different than drew70 in that out of 20 posts, 19 are somewhat constructive with the last one being a jab. However, what moderation leaves for you it allows its members. You piss some one off, and you might have that entire group of people ready to scream down your neck, who will chase you around the forum trying to provoke an argument with you, or to give people a reason to bury you. This is fine. If you are smart (which most are not), you can deal with it. At the same time, TT is also a breeding ground for this attack mentality. It's not peaceful and all that...or maybe it is now, but six months ago there were rabid dogs who in here.

The reason for the inclusion or exclusion, I believe comes down to a very simple item which nobody is willing to broach; gatherings. TMF is gathering heavy, with some in the user base trying to construct regional get togethers for those with the fetish to play and have a good time. In the grand scheme, this is fine. At the same time, you have NEST, which is advertised on the site, which gets the same people to make five hundred posts in anticipation of the coming event, and actually kind of puts a stop to the business as usual. This sort of publicity makes that gathering into something that transcends the actual event; it's the destination you want to get to. And while some might disagree with me or say I am exaggerating, unless you live in a healthy driving distance (lets say three hours, it was three hours from where I lived in Illinois to get to Chicago and that's about half the state), you are going to be paying a lot of money. You are going to be paying for your registration fee of seventy to a hundred dollars. You want to do the gathering how it is meant to be, as the social gathering of all social gatherings? You will be there Thursday and leave Monday. You stay at the main hotel? Probably a hundred dollars a night, and for four nights that is four hundred dollars. You pay for your food, so what, fifty to a hundred on food for four days? I mean you aren't going to be cooking in all reality. If you drive chip in at least sixty for gas, and that's if it is that three hour drive...if it's more your travel expenses will be more. If you are not in a healthy two state radius, you may as well fly, and that's about two hundred for round trip? Oh, and if you did that, get ready to have cab fare.

That's the NEST experience. You might meet some cool new people, you might get to tickle someone, you will be in Philadelphia (which really isn't a tour destination like New York or Chicago), and you will get to watch almost one thousand dollars of your money go into a hole. I love meeting people and talking to them. I live in Wisconsin and my best friends live in Michigan. For that same thousand dollar splurge, I could be going to sporting events, eating at my favorite places, and enjoying the company of people I know and still have five hundred left in my pocket...EASILY. And at some point, Nest becomes a money grab by organizers. Registration pays for main play venue, name tags, and food for the main venue. You basically are paying for your hotel and the event stuff out of your own pocket.

The difference is this; TT is more free lance, has people that probably have chips on their shoulder. It's a community that has these apparent artists, stragglers from TMF who are trying to keep their fetish alive, and people who really feel at home. It's a slower moving community because you don't have the amount of users descending upon it. TMF has a very important acronym in the name; Media. The inclusive community comes at the price of your pocket book. The entire left bar of the site is loaded with advertisements brandishing products involving MTJ art being sold or producer clips being solid with flashing pictures of models being tickled. Even something as noble as TMF Radio, which is JUST a free service people can stream off of, is loaded with advertisements. It would be like McDonald's throwing advertisements on PBS during a history of the hamburger program even though they aren't actually putting money into that program itself. TMF Radio was subject to money making debates, as if something used to bring people together and chat and listen to music somehow just wasn't good enough if people weren't getting a stipend of green.

A lot of people on the TMF and outside of it really complain about the TMF for the tight knit community which really does a good job of self multiplication. Guess what. Throw out a few thousand dollars by traveling to gatherings and buying clips and see what happens to you. You'll get what you always wanted. If you aren't wanting to do that, just roll with it and be yourself.

And this is just my analysis. TMF and TT are perhaps the absolute weirdest places I have been in, and it has NOTHING to do with the tickling fetish. It's everything else.
 
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